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One Week CCF Member 15%-off sale, Take 15% off everything in my ebay store (ends 9/29/13 8pm et), link at bottom
(payment by Paypal Gift, or add 3.5%, shipping is extra, CCF members only, please PM me)

1987 China Lunar Rabbit S10Y NGC PF68 UC - Key Date! US $969.00 NOW $823
1988 China Lunar Series S10Y Dragon NGC PF68 UC US $299.00 NOW $254
1988 China Panda Cincinnati 97th ANA Silver Medal NGC PF68 UC US $749.00 NOW $636
1991 China S10Y 15g Lunar Series Silver Goat NGC PF68 UC US $299.00 NOW $254   
1992 China S5Y Silver UN Environmental Protection (“UNEP”) NGC PF66 UC-Rare US $249.00 NOW $211
1992 SILVER CHINA 10 YUAN S10Y SNOW LEOPARD NGC PROOF 68 UC US $199.00 NOW $169
1994 China S10Y Silver Panda Large Date NGC MS69 US $349.00 NOW $296
1995 China S10Y Lunar Pig NGC PF69 UC -SCALLOP Mintage 6800 US $749.00 NOW $636
1995 S5Y 1/2oz Small Date Silver Panda NGC MS 69 - Ultra Scarce in 69-Key Date US $799.00 NOW $679
2002 China Scallop Horse Silver Lunar Series S10Y with original Box and COA US $999 NOW $849
2006 China Panda S10Y Horticultural Expo NGC MS69 with Original COA US $199.00 NOW $169
2006 China Panda S10Y Gilt Panda Beijing Coin Expo w/Orig. COA NGC MS68 US $389.00 NOW $330
2009 China Panda S10Y Panda Inaug. of Chinext w/Orig COA, BOX NCSNGC MS69 US $399 NOW $339

Take 15% off listed prices for these items also:

1993 S5Y 1/2oz Silver Panda NGC MS 69 US $159.00
1994 China S5Y Silver Panda NGC MS69 US $169.00
1996 China Panda S5Y NGC MS68 US $89.00
1996 China S5Y Silver Panda NGC MS68 US $99.00
1997 China Panda S5Y NGC MS68 US $89.00
1996 China S5Y Silver Panda NGC MS69 US $159.00
1996 PT5Y Platinum Panda PF62 Ultra Cameo US $359.00   
1997 China S5Y Silver Panda NGC MS69 US $159.00
1998 S5Y 1/2oz Silver Panda NGC MS 69-Rare US $389.00

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Based pandamonium's post at Live Business Chat, I will be increasing the price on the 1998 1/2 next week:

Peter's new book.   My buddy, a new collector, dropped off Peter's new panda book.  Silver mintages look the same for most all pandas.  The unicorn proofs all have about 8,000 mintage.  The big change is 1/2 oz silver pandas.   Here is the list of 1/2 oz rarest first.......1998 4,100 mint,  1995 Small Date 5,500 mint,  1998 Hong Kong  7,000 mint,  1997 Hong Kong  8,000 mint,  1994  17,000 mint,  1997  19,000 mint,  1996  21,000 mint,  1993  24,000 mint &  1995 Large Date  28,500 mint.   I just thumbed through it and have not studied it but this is what I read.   Many newer 1/2 oz were stated at 200,000 mint and the Hong Kong were 30,000 mint.  So the mint numbers were wrong for the 1/2 oz silver pandas.............I return the book today.....

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That 98' <4,100 number is also divided into small and large date pg.126. Note: the variety show helps to identify between the two dates.

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Thanks. Obviously I don't have my book yet.

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Based pandamonium's post at Live Business Chat, I will be increasing the price on the 1998 1/2 next week:

Peter's new book.   My buddy, a new collector, dropped off Peter's new panda book.  Silver mintages look the same for most all pandas.  The unicorn proofs all have about 8,000 mintage.  The big change is 1/2 oz silver pandas.   Here is the list of 1/2 oz rarest first.......1998 4,100 mint,  1995 Small Date 5,500 mint,  1998 Hong Kong  7,000 mint,  1997 Hong Kong  8,000 mint,  1994  17,000 mint,  1997  19,000 mint,  1996  21,000 mint,  1993  24,000 mint &  1995 Large Date  28,500 mint.   I just thumbed through it and have not studied it but this is what I read.   Many newer 1/2 oz were stated at 200,000 mint and the Hong Kong were 30,000 mint.  So the mint numbers were wrong for the 1/2 oz silver pandas.............I return the book today.....

Did you remove your 1998 1/2 from eBay?  Based on new info,  how much does it worth now?

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Considering the 1995 SD had a few transactions at $500

eg
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=171077779984

In my opinion, the more scarce 1998 just hasn't caught up because collectors focused on 1995 SD as a variety and didn't see the relative scarcity of the 1998.

If the 1995 SD is worth $500, then I think  the 1998 is worth at least that much based on it being almost 30% scarcer. I see some 1998 sold at under $300 and it looks to be too cheap to me. Give the market awhile to clear out the supply and prices should rise.

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Considering the 1995 SD had a few transactions at $500

eg
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=171077779984

In my opinion, the more scarce 1998 just hasn't caught up because collectors focused on 1995 SD as a variety and didn't see the relative scarcity of the 1998.

If the 1995 SD is worth $500, then I think  the 1998 is worth at least that much based on it being almost 30% scarcer. I see some 1998 sold at under $300 and it looks to be too cheap to me. Give the market awhile to clear out the supply and prices should rise.

While, if people collecting 1OZ silver panda,
don't think 1/2 oz should be on their wish list and regard 1/2 oz not as one of 1oz panda series,which has a large number of collectors,
does your assumption still hold true,considering 1/2 OZ silver pandas are less than 0.1M in total, which greatly limits the number of 1/2 oz panda collectors.
Well, I don't have any statistic data of how collector think about that, but we can not deny the existence of that case.

Same thing happens with 2/3 scallop silver lunar ,THEY ARE ONLY TWELVE 2/3 SCALLOP silver designs, and no less than 0.1M for 12 years in total!
Same thing happens with 1oz lunar silver series before 2000, Chinese called them PIEFORT lunar. Its price has a sharp contrast with 1/2 oz silver lunar. When I  went to middle school 16 years ago in China, the price of the whole set is ALMOST THE SAME as now in RMB. While if measured with dollar, the set price drops 20% in 16 years.

My lord, please forgive me, I shouldn't have talked so much, there is something very important beneath these "abnormal" pricing issue.
我只是路过打酱油的。

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Considering the 1995 SD had a few transactions at $500

eg
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=171077779984

In my opinion, the more scarce 1998 just hasn't caught up because collectors focused on 1995 SD as a variety and didn't see the relative scarcity of the 1998.

If the 1995 SD is worth $500, then I think  the 1998 is worth at least that much based on it being almost 30% scarcer. I see some 1998 sold at under $300 and it looks to be too cheap to me. Give the market awhile to clear out the supply and prices should rise.

I completely agree.


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Based off of mintage estimates the 98 should be more valuable.  However, I believe the reason for the price discrepancy in MS 69 is the 98's grade better.  290/473 are 69 or 70's for the 98's (or 61%) vs. only 140/401 (or 35%) for the SD 95's based off of NGC's population reports.

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While, if people collecting 1OZ silver panda,
don't think 1/2 oz should be on their wish list and regard 1/2 oz not as one of 1oz panda series,which has a large number of collectors,
does your assumption still hold true,considering 1/2 OZ silver pandas are less than 0.1M in total, which greatly limits the number of 1/2 oz panda collectors.
Well, I don't have any statistic data of how collector think about that, but we can not deny the existence of that case.

Same thing happens with 2/3 scallop silver lunar ,THEY ARE ONLY TWELVE 2/3 SCALLOP silver designs, and no less than 0.1M for 12 years in total!
Same thing happens with 1oz lunar silver series before 2000, Chinese called them PIEFORT lunar. Its price has a sharp contrast with 1/2 oz silver lunar. When I  went to middle school 16 years ago in China, the price of the whole set is ALMOST THE SAME as now in RMB. While if measured with dollar, the set price drops 20% in 16 years.

My lord, please forgive me, I shouldn't have talked so much, there is something very important beneath these "abnormal" pricing issue.
我只是路过打酱油的。


96/97 Panda 1/2oz was 800-1000RMB 16 years ago.  Now only worth 200RMB.

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96/97 Panda 1/2oz was 800-1000RMB 16 years ago.  Now only worth 200RMB.
Wow, very useful information, I should make a note of the price.

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In the latest Pricepedia (Sept/Oct), the following prices are listed:

1997 1/2 BU silver Panda, $69 (422 RMB)
1996 1/2 BU silver Panda, $43 (263 RMB)

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In the latest Pricepedia (Sept/Oct), the following prices are listed:

1997 1/2 BU silver Panda, $69 (422 RMB)
1996 1/2 BU silver Panda, $43 (263 RMB)

$69 is  for 97HK.  97 is $39(The line above HK).  And the price is 1 year old(grey). They are probably most undervalued Panda.

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You're right, I posted the HK price by mistake. But it is hard to find quality 1997 coins for $39. You cant usually buy OMP for $39. OMP would be around $50.

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You're right, I posted the HK price by mistake. But it is hard to find quality 1997 coins for $39. You cant usually buy OMP for $39. OMP would be around $50.
200RMB was the price in China.  That's why I posted in RMB.  I agree it's $50+ outside of China.  I have noticed huge price gap due to huge inventory in China.