Topic: What's wrong with this picture?

[PandaQuest]

Nothing personal, but quit beating around the bu

@Hippanda

you are near Heart-attack by viewing Pouch of 2001D in good looking condition and without any Evidence that those coins were not in Shanghai minted but about 4 ( four ) coins in absolutely and without any doubt fake OMPs selling from big USA dealer you don't loose a word  

are you kidding ?

that's why i think this thread is very interesting, you could easily recognise peoples real purposes in such matters.

this kind of detour is not very sophisticated, sorry, but your posts says one and your doings something else.

with your long and heartbreaking post where you are attacking me you don't achieve anything and who is selling those coins in Fake OMP is no secret more in Germany, but due to big influence of this dealer nobody in USA dares to speech about.

I have saw this kind of game many times in my life.


so, you are free to give me a bad karma point  


  

@Hippanda

you are near Heart-attack by viewing Pouch of 2001D in good looking condition and without any Evidence that those coins were not in Shanghai minted but about 4 ( four ) coins in absolutely and without any doubt fake OMPs selling from big USA dealer you don't loose a word  

are you kidding ?

that's why i think this thread is very interesting, you could easily recognise peoples real purposes in such matters.

this kind of detour is not very sophisticated, sorry, but your posts says one and your doings something else.

with your long and heartbreaking post where you are attacking me you don't achieve anything and who is selling those coins in Fake OMP is no secret more in Germany, but due to big influence of this dealer nobody in USA dares to speech about.

I have saw this kind of game many times in my life.


so, you are free to give me a bad karma point  


  

@Hippanda

you are near Heart-attack by viewing Pouch of 2001D in good looking condition and without any Evidence that those coins were not in Shanghai minted but about 4 ( four ) coins in absolutely and without any doubt fake OMPs selling from big USA dealer you don't loose a word  

are you kidding ?

that's why i think this thread is very interesting, you could easily recognise peoples real purposes in such matters.

this kind of detour is not very sophisticated, sorry, but your posts says one and your doings something else.

with your long and heartbreaking post where you are attacking me you don't achieve anything and who is selling those coins in Fake OMP is no secret more in Germany, but due to big influence of this dealer nobody in USA dares to speech about.

I have saw this kind of game many times in my life.


so, you are free to give me a bad karma point  


  

Nothing personal, but quit beating around the bush. Say what you need to say, what you say is confusing. IMHO hipanda is not covering anything up, infact he's bringing further evidence that something is going on world wide.  In fact thanks hipanda for your contribution . Disclosure- I don't know hipanda and have never met him or had personal conversation outside of the forum.

[NBM]

So the implication is that A respected NGC anthorized eBay dealer! is in bed with the snakes at APMEX?
FWIW, it is no secret that APMEX plays games with grading and exploits their customers.

[wittu]

So the implication is that A respected NGC anthorized eBay dealer! is in bed with the snakes at APMEX?
FWIW, it is no secret that APMEX plays games with grading and exploits their customers.

Who is talking about Apmex right now?
I am out...is getting too hot right now...


Cheers,
wittu  

[Hippanda]

Who is talking about Apmex right now?
I am out...is getting too hot right now...


Cheers,
wittu  

Too bad, we need collectors who know something to stand up and speak out.

[wittu]

 
yep...what did you expect? Half german half swedish...i am searching for harmony 
but did my Senior year in the U.S. (Exchange Student)

wittu 

[NBM]

Who is talking about Apmex right now?
I am out...is getting too hot right now...


Cheers,
wittu  

I believe that was the thrust of the thread?

What's wrong with this picture?

"2001 1 oz Gold Chinese Panda Coin - Sealed in Plastic
Buy with confidence from APMEX on eBay!"
                              

[wittu]

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[Hippanda]

.. who is selling those coins in Fake OMP is no secret more in Germany, but due to big influence of this dealer nobody in USA dares to speech about.

Evidently also none of our German brothers "dares to speech about" it, but prefer instead to lob vague innuendos and beat around the bush?

Come on, where is that Teutonic pride and fortitude?

[wittu]

Hippanda,

hey...i am not having ANY bad vibrations with you. "I" just don`t feel comfortable enough, making clear statements in this case. I`m not feeling safe enough doing this (juristical consequences). SORRY!  YES ...not a sign of strength...so what. It is just my Hobby and i got Family.

If you read these 3 pages (not more), you will be able to imagine, whom the "Brothers" were talking about   (at least i think i know...you should be able, too)

wittu

[Hippanda]

"I" just don`t feel comfortable enough, making clear statements in this case. I`m not feeling safe enough doing this (juristical consequences). SORRY!  YES ...not a sign of strength...so what. It is just my Hobby and i got Family.

wittu

Odd- I know I recall hearing this same line in a movie about "The Mob"

[NBM]

I'm beginning to think the older Panda market is at least half casino with the large players pushing the prices around and dealing from another deck to suit their hands.
I feel like the guy at the poker table who is wondering who the sucker is.

[eurokrem]

i think nobody from Germany buy again from this Big USA Dealer, or at least less people are going to buy there, thats good and rest is problem for USA Collectors, this is going to bee a funny thing, and i am also not in mood to fight other peoples fight, everybody should clean for his own Doorstep, i earn my money in honest way and i sleep very well, i want this to stay so, buy buy, i am out from this useless discussion  

Edit:

and this big dealer is NOT APMEX !!!

[wittu]

Odd- I know I recall hearing this same line in a movie about "The Mob"

ooohh...so you got bad vibrations with me? (if i get you right...)

Well...have fun! 
Hmmmm...i am kind of disappointed... I AM SORRY for this, because i think, us collectors should stick together fighting such "movements".


wittu

[Hippanda]

"Bad vibrations" ?  Now I know this has to be a language problem / failure to communicate.

No "bad vibrations" if you mean hard feelings?  I am just surprised at how some Germany collector brothers are apparently indignant about fraud but only to a point short of spelling it out and naming names and won't stand up out of fear of reprisal, then run away saying they've said enough.  Must be a cultural thing?

If you think  "collectors should stick together", why be afraid and clam up?

[Hippanda]

i think nobody from Germany buy again from this Big USA Dealer...

Edit:

and this big dealer is NOT APMEX !!!

So, who is it?  Who is the source for these fake OMPs? Why not say?

i am out from this useless discussion  

Well then at least Thank You for your contribution to make it useless