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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #120 on: September 23, 2013, 04:21:56 AM »
hp

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do it not so exciting  :tongue_smilie: aftermarket? :bored:


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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #121 on: September 23, 2013, 04:44:21 AM »
Got it... I promise to try to avoid posting anything so exciting now that I know...  ;)

Crazy to think somebody is aftermarket sealing all these coins, huh?

That seal, if not legit, perhaps an effort to pass as this Shenyang style:
"He who speaks without modesty will find it difficult to make his words good."

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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #122 on: September 23, 2013, 09:08:34 AM »
Has this 1987 proof been re-sealed? 

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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #123 on: September 23, 2013, 09:10:45 AM »
Whether the resealing is being done by dealers in the US, China and/or Germany does not matter.  What matters is they are hurting themselves since this enhances the lack of trust amongst coin collectors, and obviously negatively influences buying decisions.  It is not enough that fakes are rampant but now to pass off something as OMP when its not just hurts the overall community.

I was at the Philly expo this weekend and I cannot tell you how many people asked if the coins were fakes, etc.  Even though all my coins displayed were in NGC holders.  Also, many dealers stopped by and their biggest concern with China moderns was fakes.  Even one person referredd to China moderns as "junk".

This is truly unfortunate and if the mint is responsible for letting this happen then it should be stopped.



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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #124 on: September 23, 2013, 11:33:04 AM »
1993 gold panda 1/4 Shenzhen mint! Okay this resealing is getting out of hand!
eBay Item #:   221286875396

I guess the old saying really is wise, buy the coin and not the package!

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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #125 on: September 23, 2013, 12:46:13 PM »
Wow that is pretty blatant- it wins the award so far.
Seller is also selling a fake 2000, and several other assorted pandas.  Seller sells rounds and art bars.
Eventually this does give pandas and Chinese coins a bad reputation and can hurt values, as new would-be collectors shun them rather than face the learning curve needed to determine real from fraud.
The sooner sources can be found and sellers put on notice and this eliminated, the better.
"He who speaks without modesty will find it difficult to make his words good."

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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #126 on: September 23, 2013, 01:15:02 PM »
More examples of Shenyang Mint seal pattern for silver coins..

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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #127 on: September 23, 2013, 06:28:26 PM »
Is this truly Original Mint Packaging?

For the record, I finally found my magnifying glass and looked at the features on the temple side.  All four of the 1992 G1/2 in the identical OMP that I had purchased from this dealer were LD, as they had the rounded "porthole" feature.

See http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=7931.msg46663#msg46663

Hopefully the OMP design is also for LD?

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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #128 on: September 24, 2013, 03:04:23 AM »

Hopefully the OMP design is also for LD?

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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #129 on: September 25, 2013, 02:19:44 AM »

supplied by panda america



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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #130 on: September 25, 2013, 02:42:38 AM »
wg,
Is the 2000 coin on the bottom left a mirrored ring?

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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #131 on: September 25, 2013, 02:44:53 AM »
1993 gold panda 1/4 Shenzhen mint! Okay this resealing is getting out of hand!
eBay Item #:   221286875396

I guess the old saying really is wise, buy the coin and not the package!

Nice catch on that one... genious.
Yet another case of (FMP) Faux-MP!

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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #132 on: September 25, 2013, 02:58:32 AM »

one more

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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #133 on: September 25, 2013, 11:12:23 AM »
2 brand new coins ....

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 resealed

NGC & PMG Authorized Dealer

 N36

4375 one side
4370 two sides

 N17 N17 N17

We are one of the official distributors of this medal.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/2013-China-Shanghai-GHETTO-Memory-PANDA-Jewish-1-Oz-Silver-Proof-Medal-w-BOX-COA-/121176039576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c36a7a098

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Re: What's wrong with this picture?
« Reply #134 on: September 25, 2013, 12:57:32 PM »
2 brand new coins ....

 :scared:
 resealed

NGC & PMG Authorized Dealer

 N36

4375 one side
4370 two sides

 N17 N17 N17

We are one of the official distributors of this medal.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/2013-China-Shanghai-GHETTO-Memory-PANDA-Jewish-1-Oz-Silver-Proof-Medal-w-BOX-COA-/121176039576?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c36a7a098

The Shanghai Memory medal was numbered individually on obverse. This is one of the reason I have recommended this medal highly in other thread, since each medal was made with different die. The pouch is genuine Shanghai mint.