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Why Gold will be flat or GO DOWN!!!!!
« on: April 26, 2013, 12:07:40 PM »
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   Why Gold will stay flat or go DOWN!!!!!

1. Gold does not produce anything.

2. Gold does not make the states any money!

3. Gold does not make the Government any money!

4. The higher ups (buffet, etc) have even put there stamp of disapproval

on this "Barbaric Relic" , There words not mine.

5. Gold is a hindrance to states & government, new laws, new regulations,
new policing....In there minds attracts criminals.

6. Gold is difficult to track, monitor, tax, etc in there minds.

7. Increase's the individual's PRIVATE wealth & sovereignty. A big NO-NO
for our socialist GOV.

  Then where will the wealthy put there $$$ when the "punch bowl fueled"

fraudmarket of wallstreet starts Dying????

 REAL ESTATE!
 
1. Produces Jobs!  from illegal gardners to Big Corp!
2. Stimulates economy
3. higher taxes, property, state, sales, etc
4. Overseas investment  (huge factor) Mortgage brokers do not have to
follow "money laundering" laws/Procedures as do other industries!!!
 
  Think about that for a second!!!

5. Low rates, set the stage, high dow jones made them flush with cash!
They smacked Gold down, So where are they gonna go???

6. My final tip that had me write this?  A letter from Bank of America
(one of the biggest crooks) saying card holders can now earn 5x points on
qualifying home improvement purchases with your Bank america blah blah
blah Card. 

5x points on Qualifying hardware, interior furnishing & Garden supply
store through june 30, 2013

  Now ask your self why out of all the things they could offer?
Education, Office furnishings, Auto, FARMING OR GARDENING equipment!!

  Why "home improvement"????   The banks/Wall st./whitehouse are 1.  Most
or all of obama's close people are ex- Goldman sachs or Wall st!!!

   Keep in Hard assets just ones with numismatic value, currency, watches,
Art, etc

Once a Month I will post this.
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Re: Why Gold will be flat or GO DOWN!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2013, 12:28:43 PM »
A valid point of view for sure, governments have been depleting their reserves of gold for some time. But don't forget the golden rule "He who has the gold rules".

Again if you haven't seen this documentary, it is well worth watching. It talks about the historical importance of gold and the condition of the current markets.

http://www.canada.com/onlinetv/documentary/doc-zone/8264925/video.html

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Re: Why Gold will be flat or GO DOWN!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2013, 03:01:53 PM »
HHMmmmm  JpMorgan's physical gold holdings WWAAAYYYYYYY down!!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3012452/posts
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Re: Why Gold will be flat or GO DOWN!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2013, 03:04:08 PM »
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article38791.html

JPMorgan Sees Gold At $1,800 By Mid 2013 As South Africa “In Crisis” And “Escalating Instability” In Middle East   J.P. Morgan Chase & Co. said gold will rise to $1,800 an ounce by the middle of 2013, with the mining industry in South Africa “in crisis,” according to Bloomberg.

  yet they were selling all this time????????
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Re: Why Gold will be flat or GO DOWN!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: April 27, 2013, 07:40:08 PM »
sure made a nice move in the last few days

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Re: Why Gold will be flat or GO DOWN!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: April 27, 2013, 11:41:44 PM »
Trends in Major Asset Classes Set to Shift
http://www.safehaven.com/article/29629/trends-in-major-asset-classes-set-to-shift

After the first of the week I'll quit holding my breath.

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Re: Why Gold will be flat or GO DOWN!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2013, 09:55:50 PM »
Trends in Major Asset Classes Set to Shift
http://www.safehaven.com/article/29629/trends-in-major-asset-classes-set-to-shift

After the first of the week I'll quit holding my breath.

thanx for the article.  It is a shame he does not take real estate into his thesis.

avg joe knows real estate, pm's & stocks..not bonds.
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Re: Why Gold will be flat or GO DOWN!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: April 29, 2013, 06:44:22 AM »
thanx for the article.  It is a shame he does not take real estate into his thesis.

avg joe knows real estate, pm's & stocks..not bonds.

Funny you mention real estate, in another discussion tonight I was reading about the multibillions being poured into the US real estate market by companies like Blackstone. I'm not sure I understand/grasp what is behind this or how it will affect capital flows yet.
Here are a few links, perhaps you can make something of it?

http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/09/24/news-leaks-of-1-billion-blackstone-investment-in-foreclosed-properties-just-in-tampa-bay/

http://nreionline.com/single-family-housing/blackstone-secures-21b-loan-home-purchases

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2013/03/29/california-billionaire-buys-up-homes.html

Notice Och-Ziff, one of the first entrants of the REO to Rental, bailed out.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-17/och-ziff-calls-top-reo-rental-exit-landlord-business

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Re: Why Gold will be flat or GO DOWN!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: April 29, 2013, 11:10:19 AM »
Here is a link that I posted in another discusion, I belive that it has some relevance here as well. How do western banks (and governments) realy view gold?

This is an article from my local newspaper that talks about the drop in bitcoin prices parealleling that of gold, and the actions of one of our major banks with regard to bitcoin exchange.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/technology/Calgary+bitcoin+exchange+fighting+bank+backlash+Canada/8306709/story.html
 

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Re: Why Gold will be flat or GO DOWN!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: April 29, 2013, 02:51:15 PM »
Here is a link that I posted in another discusion, I belive that it has some relevance here as well. How do western banks (and governments) realy view gold?

This is an article from my local newspaper that talks about the drop in bitcoin prices parealleling that of gold, and the actions of one of our major banks with regard to bitcoin exchange.
http://www.calgaryherald.com/technology/Calgary+bitcoin+exchange+fighting+bank+backlash+Canada/8306709/story.html
 

   In the aftermath of the boston Bombing/shootings, A news agency said one of the men "pinged" the system. LOL Pinged the system???  They say it like we are supposed to know what that means!

  It means we live in a "matrix" style Gov/tech controlled society. One of these kooks triggered an algo that mines/looks for these type of guys/groups. Where this connects is, The "SYSTEM" gov/banks/corps run the show from soup to nuts. They "MAKE" what happens in markets, they do not want a alternate currency that is not ran by the "SYSTEM".  BITCOIN, PM'S, LIBERTY DOLLAR ETC

  REAL ESTATE IS WHERE THEY WANT $$$$ TO FLOW!!!.......... FOR NOW ;)
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Re: Why Gold will be flat or GO DOWN!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: April 29, 2013, 03:10:03 PM »
Funny you mention real estate, in another discussion tonight I was reading about the multibillions being poured into the US real estate market by companies like Blackstone. I'm not sure I understand/grasp what is behind this or how it will affect capital flows yet.
Here are a few links, perhaps you can make something of it?

http://news.firedoglake.com/2012/09/24/news-leaks-of-1-billion-blackstone-investment-in-foreclosed-properties-just-in-tampa-bay/

http://nreionline.com/single-family-housing/blackstone-secures-21b-loan-home-purchases

http://www.bizjournals.com/dallas/news/2013/03/29/california-billionaire-buys-up-homes.html

Notice Och-Ziff, one of the first entrants of the REO to Rental, bailed out.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2012-10-17/och-ziff-calls-top-reo-rental-exit-landlord-business

"Anyway, those non-investor deals have a habit of falling through – selling off properties to hedge funds and private equity firms is easy money."

"The feds have been all over the bank scouring their books for minor infractions and very high loan to value asset requirements, now imposed on all small banks. I think the feds want all of them out of business. It is very hard to borrow money from the local bank, even for rich people in Los Alamos, to expand a business, for example."

"in which large asset managers have been encouraged to take advantage of government funded, risk-free financing (and entirely bypassing banks who have given up on loan origination due to legacy liability issues which have every bank tied up in litigation from now until Feddom come - just see today's Bank of America results) and purchase foreclosed properties in bulk, with the intention of converting them into rental properties."

'Notice Och-Ziff, one of the first entrants of the REO to Rental, bailed out.'

  YES, but..."the New York-based hedge fund is looking to sell now because the returns it is generating from rental income are less than expected and it is looking to take advantage of a recent rebound in home prices in northern California."

   So they said, "screw being landlords, lets just sell high-end homes to the wealthy"

ONCE AGAIN, THE "SYSTEM" WANTS $$$$ TO FLOW TO REAL ESTATE! 
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« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2013, 03:22:14 PM »
In Canada the government has tightened up mortgage regulations,  for example 30 mortgages are no longer available. The net effect is that the  real estate market has cooled of a bit. It seems though, that the Government is encouraging investment in the stock market. They want capital to be dynamic, invested in companies with the pretense that jobs will be created and that goods and services will be produced. Our major banks all own trust companies or brokerage firms and are offering trading platforms to their customers. With low intrest rates many people are taking a run at this in an effort to increase yield on their money They have been a bit dismayed however, to find that many Canadian companies are sitting on huge cash reserves that they are literally doing nothing with.

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Re: Why Gold will be flat or GO DOWN!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: April 30, 2013, 08:34:54 AM »
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-29/presenting-housing-bubble-20

Well, courtesy of the real-time real estate pricing trackers at Altos Research, we now know that the very worst of the housing bubble is not only back, but it is at levels not seen since the days when a house in the Inland Empire was only a faint glimmer of the prototype for BitCoin
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« Reply #13 on: April 30, 2013, 08:47:09 AM »
The property to buy is income producing farmland.  Over a year ago the articles were out explaining that the banks have agreed to hold back foreclosures.   This gives the illusion of a property recovery and reports are out of how condos sell on Miami beach sell, etc.  The banks at some point will be forced to put the foreclosures back on the market.  When that happens, the home price decline will begin.  This will cause many present homeowners to move out as they will be underwater on the mortgage.  Why make payments on property that is worth less then owed?  This will accelerate the decline in real estate values.  It is a matter of time now...............

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« Reply #14 on: April 30, 2013, 07:20:12 PM »
"The property to buy is income producing farmland."

Hard assets!!

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