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Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« on: April 10, 2013, 09:16:23 PM »
Hi,

I would like to buy the 1997 & 2003 1/2oz Gold Pandas, OMP or MS68+ will be OK. Contact me please if you have the coin for sale. Thanks!


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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2013, 07:08:23 AM »
Who will buy them at such a price? Thanks~

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2013, 07:34:39 AM »
Hello
I do not have access to these sales  :confused1:

 does anyone have a solution, thank you

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2013, 08:06:28 AM »
More than $5000 each ...

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2013, 09:48:00 AM »
Hello
I do not have access to these sales  :confused1:

 does anyone have a solution, thank you

Log out of your ebay account, go to www.ebay.com US site, type in the item number manually in the search 350761045515.  Items that listed to be sold only in the US cannot be viewed outside the US if you are logged in to your ebay account because it it knows  you can't purchase the item so why show it to you.  If you are not logged in the above links may work, unless ebay looks at IP address as a second check to block those listing, in which case entering the item number manually works fine.

This seller has been historically 100-400% above market price for the last 6 years I have seen his listings, now he is only 50-100% overpriced.  This is one of the only ebay seller that has many nice gold pandas that I have never done a single transaction with and probably never will unless prices double in a day.  

Arif
« Last Edit: April 11, 2013, 10:14:52 AM by KeyDatePanda »

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2013, 10:06:05 AM »
Thank you very much for the explanation
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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #7 on: April 11, 2013, 10:35:11 AM »
Log out of your ebay account, go to www.ebay.com US site, type in the item number manually in the search 350761045515.  Items that listed to be sold only in the US cannot be viewed outside the US if you are logged in to your ebay account because it it knows  you can't purchase the item so why show it to you.  If you are not logged in the above links may work, unless ebay looks at IP address as a second check to block those listing, in which case entering the item number manually works fine.

This seller has been historically 100-400% above market price for the last 6 years I have seen his listings, now he is only 50-100% overpriced.  This is one of the only ebay seller that has many nice gold pandas that I have never done a single transaction with and probably never will unless prices double in a day. 

Arif
+1 applaud, that posting is a keeper.  Bookmarked!

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2013, 10:53:40 AM »

This seller has been historically 100-400% above market price for the last 6 years I have seen his listings, now he is only 50-100% overpriced.  This is one of the only ebay seller that has many nice gold pandas that I have never done a single transaction with and probably never will unless prices double in a day.  

Arif

The only time this seller has a decent deal on a coin (at least that I am aware of) is when he has a rare variety and doesn't know it. That happened a few years back when he had a 1 oz. 2000 gold mirror Panda. The asking price was twice the market price for a frosted, but not a bad deal for a mirror. After a discussion of the mirror coins on this forum he raised the price for his coin from around $3,000 to $100,000. Everything has its uses, though; I remember when an alarmed friend called me to announce that this particular seller had moved some of his coins. When coins start to sell consistently at multiples of normal prices it's a good indicator that the market is overheated.

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2013, 11:11:04 AM »
Buying 1997 1/2oz gold panda at $2500, please feel free to contact me, thanks!

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2013, 12:08:50 PM »
And your buy price for the 2003 1/2 oz? Is your price the same for OMP, 68, and 69, or will your prices vary?

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2013, 12:43:46 PM »
+1 applaud, that posting is a keeper.  Bookmarked!

Another good trick for US ebay accounts is, whenever an item sells for best offer, ebay simply crosses out the original asking price but doesn't disclose the agreed transaction price.  To view that price simply copy the item number, go to www.ebay.com.au (Australia ebay site) and search for that item number and it will display the actual price the item sold for in US dollars and Aussie dollars.  

Arif
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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2013, 12:51:59 PM »
  N3 N4 N6 :thumbup:

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2013, 01:00:34 PM »
Thanks Arif.
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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2013, 01:18:21 PM »
Another good trick for US ebay accounts is, whenever an item sells for best offer, ebay simply crosses out the original asking price but doesn't disclose the agreed transaction price.  To view that price simply copy the item number, go to www.ebay.au (Australia ebay site) and search for that item number and it will display the actual price the items sold for in US dollars and Aussie dollars.  

Arif

For the clickers, the actual site is

www.ebay.com.au

And the first item listed this am under coins/ gold /china
is a fake- of course it says "medal" and "layered" but funny nevertheless

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1997-CHINA-PANDA-COLLECTABLE-MEDAL-1-4-Oz-AG-999-24K-Fine-GOLD-LAYERED-COIN-/221211825029?pt=AU_Exonumia_Medals_Tokens&hash=item3381409385
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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2013, 07:23:55 PM »
And your buy price for the 2003 1/2 oz? Is your price the same for OMP, 68, and 69, or will your prices vary?

$1650 for the 2003 1/2 oz. Same price for the OMP or MS69 because they will all go to the complete sets. Thanks~

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #16 on: April 11, 2013, 08:23:12 PM »
$1650 for the 2003 1/2 oz. Same price for the OMP or MS69 because they will all go to the complete sets. Thanks~

I wonder how many MS69s are being cracked out of the slabs to satisfy the demand for these complete sets, which I gather don't include the NGC/PCGS slabs in their presentation.  Could these activities have a significant impact on the NGC population numbers?  In other words, it may lead to there being significantly fewer MS69s available than is suggested by the population data.

For instance, there are currently about 100 NGC MS69 2003 G1/2.  If just 10 of those 69s end up getting cracked out to make these sets, then that eliminates 10% of the available MS69 population.  Will the ongoing completion of these sets thereby increase the scarcity and value of the remaining MS69?


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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #17 on: April 11, 2013, 09:33:52 PM »
Very few MS69 slabs are being cracked out except in cases where a certain coin is in very short supply, say 1995 1/4 or 2002 1/10.  What typically happens is a dealer will try to exchange their MS69 slab coin for a 67-68 quality coin and request a trade up fee.  This turns out to be win-win for the dealer and collector doing the trade, since the trade up fee or spread is at an all time low right now for most coins (not true for 1982 1oz, 1983 1oz, ..). 

What is the real impact of all this is, fewer coins are being graded, especially the hot coins.  I have sent in only a fraction of my 2002, 2004, 2006 1/10 for grading despite acquiring many of these coins in the last two months, because I can sell them as is for MS69 price as omp or even raw, so the NGC pops of these coins will be lower than they would have otherwise have been. So, YES in a sense the future pop of MS69 will be lower not because the coins are being cracked out but because fewer coins will be submitted. 

Arif

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2013, 09:36:05 PM »
Hello gsmnss,

I have both coins. Please PM me. Thanks.

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2013, 09:33:25 PM »
Paying $3200 for the 1997 1/2oz gold panda. Contact me please~

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2013, 07:44:20 AM »
Another good trick for US ebay accounts is, whenever an item sells for best offer, ebay simply crosses out the original asking price but doesn't disclose the agreed transaction price.  To view that price simply copy the item number, go to www.ebay.com.au (Australia ebay site) and search for that item number and it will display the actual price the item sold for in US dollars and Aussie dollars. 

Arif

Did ebay Australia also change their policy, now?  I tried this trick this morning and it doesn't seem to work?

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190835857125?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com.au%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D190835857125%26_rdc%3D1

Perhaps I am doing something wrong?  Try item number 190835857125

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #22 on: May 17, 2013, 11:18:54 AM »
Yes, I tried it on Ebay Australia, it has stopped showing the realized prices. I think thwere are other ways of knowing it, I just don't have the answer.

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #23 on: May 17, 2013, 11:20:24 AM »
Try ebay.ca

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #24 on: May 17, 2013, 11:40:13 AM »
It worked, hopefully it won't be changed in the future. Thanks, 1+  N31

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #25 on: May 17, 2013, 12:23:14 PM »
Try ebay.ca

Hmm...that didn't work for me either, even though I logged out of US ebay, before trying it.  Maybe ebay is still recognizing my IP address from being logged into US ebay this morning.  I'll have to try again from a different location later.

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #26 on: May 17, 2013, 12:43:26 PM »
It worked for me, I didn't even have to log out from my US acct, just went to Ebay ca site and search the item. I used the same IP address. Good luck  N50

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #27 on: May 17, 2013, 02:12:50 PM »
Please try to change the .com to .it in your browser. Italy works fine even though I am not an Italian. You can see ALL best offer prices when the item is no longer available.

i.e. http://offer.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&_trksid=p2047675.l2564&rt=nc&item=190835857125
just change the item number :thumbup1:

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #28 on: May 17, 2013, 03:05:55 PM »
Accettate!
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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #29 on: May 17, 2013, 07:47:36 PM »
Simpler way:

1. http://search.ebay.it/190835857125
2. http://search.ebay.com.my/190835857125
3. http://search.ebay.com.sg/190835857125
4. http://search.ebay.ph/190835857125

It will take much longer time before ebay synchronize the update to these smaller sites.

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How to determine the Best Offer price that an eBay item sold for?
« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2013, 06:44:05 AM »
Simpler way:

1. http://search.ebay.it/190835857125
2. http://search.ebay.com.my/190835857125
3. http://search.ebay.com.sg/190835857125
4. http://search.ebay.ph/190835857125

It will take much longer time before ebay synchronize the update to these smaller sites.

The trick for determining what Best Offer price was paid for a US eBay item by going to a smaller country ebay site and inserting the eBay item number no longer works.  eBay appears to have updated these sites so they only say an item sold at a Best Offer, but no longer indicate the negotiated price.  Is anyone using a different method of accessing that information that still works?

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Re: How to determine the Best Offer price that an eBay item sold for?
« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2013, 07:27:58 AM »
Hi Birdman,

it still works with the full link to the price offers (Purchase History).
If you want another item just copy the link into your browser and change the item number.

http://offer.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&_trksid=p2047675.l2564&rt=nc&item=190835857125

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2013, 07:34:43 AM »
Hi Birdman,

it still works with the full link to the price offers (Purchase History).
If you want another item just copy the link into your browser and change the item number.

http://offer.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidsLogin&_trksid=p2047675.l2564&rt=nc&item=190835857125

Regards
coinstat

Yes.  That works!  Thanks.   :thumbup1:

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Re: Buying 1997 & 2003 1/2oz gold pandas
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2013, 08:56:03 AM »
The trick for determining what Best Offer price was paid for a US eBay item by going to a smaller country ebay site and inserting the eBay item number no longer works.  eBay appears to have updated these sites so they only say an item sold at a Best Offer, but no longer indicate the negotiated price.  Is anyone using a different method of accessing that information that still works?

http://store.singaporegoldsilver.com/pricehist/gold-panda-price.php?find=&year=1998&page=4

Please see the item (190835857125).
The price of 1750 is the final price .