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Offline Gilmore

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Will this gold panda grade higher if conserved?
« on: March 15, 2013, 10:45:58 PM »
This MS68 panda was graded with the copper spots as can be seen in NGC's images - http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/CertResults.aspx?CertNumber=2780215-010

Since eye appeal is important factor that affects the grade I think that conservation would give it a chance for higher grade. What do you think?

I am not sure if buying the coin for a 68 price (or a little below) and adding the conservation + grading fees would save some $ and will worth the trouble, instead of just buying a 69.

Your opinion is appreciated.

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Re: Will this gold panda grade higher if conserved?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2013, 12:34:34 AM »
There are hairline scratches on temple side, and perhaps a contact mark (or could it be part of the bamboo) on panda side.

IMHO, if it grades 69 after conservation, then it is low 69.

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Re: Will this gold panda grade higher if conserved?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2013, 12:59:18 AM »
I see now the scratches on the temple side with your help. They are in the area marked in red, right?

Maybe these scratches are on the slab like the one marked in yellow? NGC's website is down for maintenance so their images are not available right now to compare.

Would a coin with these kind of scratches qualify for a (low) 68?

Thank you for your help  N48

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Re: Will this gold panda grade higher if conserved?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2013, 02:37:44 PM »
I agree with the previous post, and actually I think the 68 grade on that is a little generous given the hairline scratches on the temple side.  If the scratches are, in fact, on the coin and not on the holder, I'm a little surprised it didn't grade at a 67.  It's a very nice coin, but I personally don't see this one upgrading to a 69, even with the copper spots removed.  I think 68 is as good as that is ever going to grade, just my opinion from what I'm seeing in the photos.
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Re: Will this gold panda grade higher if conserved?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2013, 04:29:05 PM »
Well...look at the yellow circle. COULD be the Slab, too  :confused1:

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Re: Will this gold panda grade higher if conserved?
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2013, 10:21:05 PM »
On NGC's photo the horizontal scratch above the '1' is visible. Others not, but NGC's photos are not clear enough to be sure.

Thank you 从心出发 and Honus for your inputs. I will skip this one.