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Offline SANDAC

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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2013, 10:31:56 PM »
Actually I thought the coins look really good.  The sailing ship seems to have scratches, but then it could also be byproduct of silver plating process.  Silver plated coins of that vintage seldom receive PF69 grade.  PF68 is an excellent grade for silver plated. 

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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2013, 08:29:47 PM »
So this set has the obverse/reverse pairing of version B, like the way it is shown in
http://bbs.jibi.net/UploadFile/2008-4/20084131485553122.jpg

The table poconopenn posted above showed the silver version has 80% fineness which should have a relatively muted appearance whereas these pictures are very bright like silver plated coins, just as you've indicated.  So version B is a silver plated version then?  Do you know whether NGC will grade this set?

Edit:  I looked at the table from poconopenn again and just realize something doesn't quite added up:  The "Pure Silver Content (g)" is stated as 11.747g but "Weight (g)" is 12.7g, so fineness should be 11.747/12.7=92.5%.  "Fineness" is stated as 80%.  That doesn't compute.

The red book suggests the weight of this medal is 13 gm and silver content is 80%, while Mr Ge's book also suggests the weight is 13 gm, but no silver content is mentioned.

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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #32 on: April 09, 2013, 09:07:30 PM »
... Do you know whether NGC will grade this set? ...
From Max Spiegel of NGC "Thanks for the question. We do not currently certify these medals."  My question was regarding silver plated medals.

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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #33 on: April 10, 2013, 08:10:03 AM »
Thank you SANDAC, it is a great help.

The article also talks about mixed reverses as one of the photo shows, is it correct or I got it wrong? To which variety out of the 3 it refers too?

  I have seen a "mixmatched" reverse set in person & passed on it due to, never being aware of it.
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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #34 on: April 10, 2013, 08:11:57 AM »
A silver plated variety is auctioned on Zhaoonline. Auction ends on Feb-15.

http://www.zhaoonline.com/zhongguodangdaijinyinbi/1976997.shtml


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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #35 on: April 10, 2013, 08:22:15 AM »

What did it sell for???

RMB 2250 not including 3% buyers premium (USD 360)

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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #36 on: April 22, 2013, 06:44:28 PM »
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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2013, 03:22:15 PM »
The set graded:

1980   CHINA   JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO WENFENG TOWER-SILVER-30MM   MEDAL    PF 69 MATTE      
1980   CHINA   JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO JINTANG TEMPLE-SILVER30MM   MEDAL    PF 70 MATTE      
1980   CHINA   JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO INSCRIPTION-SILVER-30MM   MEDAL    PF 69 MATTE      
1980   CHINA   JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO SAILING SHIP-SILVER-30MM   MEDAL    PF 69 MATTE   

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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2013, 06:55:11 PM »
Congrats. Excellent grades..

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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #39 on: March 13, 2014, 10:47:32 PM »
Sharing.

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Gold-Color Plated

All 4 have smooth edge.  All 4 have 30mm diameter and 2mm thickness.

Inscription:      9.90 g
Jintang Temple:  10.10 g
Sailing Ship:    10.09 g
Wenfeng Tower:   10.20 g

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Silver-Color Plated

All 4 have straight reeded edge.  All 4 have 30mm diameter and 2mm thickness.

Inscription:      9.72 g
JinTang Temple:  9.52 g
Sailing Ship:    9.60 g
WenFeng Tower:   9.64 g

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Silver

All 4 have ??? edge.  All 4 have 30mm diameter and ?mm thickness.

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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #40 on: March 14, 2014, 01:31:39 AM »
Sharing.

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Gold-Color Plated

All 4 have smooth edge.  All 4 have 30mm diameter and 2mm thickness.

Inscription:      9.90 g
Jintang Temple:  10.10 g
Sailing Ship:    10.09 g
Wenfeng Tower:   10.20 g

====================================================

Silver-Color Plated

All 4 have straight reeded edge.  All 4 have 30mm diameter and 2mm thickness.

Inscription:      9.72 g
JinTang Temple:  9.52 g
Sailing Ship:    9.60 g
WenFeng Tower:   9.64 g

====================================================

Silver

All 4 have ??? edge.  All 4 have 30mm diameter and ?mm thickness.
Thanks for sharing. Is the first set gold plated or brass?

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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #41 on: March 15, 2014, 02:06:28 AM »
Thanks for sharing. Is the first set gold plated or brass?

I believe it's plated; not sure.  Here are hi-res pictures.

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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #42 on: March 15, 2014, 04:47:42 AM »
NGC graded specimens:

2770489-032;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO INSCRIPTION-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;PLATED ;;;
2770489-033;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO JINTANG TEMPLE-SILVER30MM;MEDAL;PLATED ;;;
2770489-034;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO SAILING SHIP-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;PLATED ;;;
2770489-035;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO WENFENG TOWER-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;PLATED ;;;
3395989-018;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO WENFENG TOWER- BRASS-30MM;MEDAL;MS 67;;;
3395989-019;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO JINTANG TEMPLE-BRASS 30MM;MEDAL;MS 68;;;
3395989-020;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO INSCRIPTION - BRASS -30MM;MEDAL;MS 68;;;
3395989-021;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO WENFENG TOWER- BRASS-30MM;MEDAL;MS 68;;;
3551145-007;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO INSCRIPTION-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;NOT GENUINE ;;;
3551145-008;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO JINTANG TEMPLE-SILVER30MM;MEDAL;NOT GENUINE ;;;
3551145-009;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO WENFENG TOWER-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;NOT GENUINE ;;;
3551145-010;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO SAILING SHIP-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;NOT GENUINE ;;;
3552391-001;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO SAILING SHIP-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;NOT GENUINE ;;;
3552391-002;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO INSCRIPTION-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;NOT GENUINE ;;;
3552391-003;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO WENFENG TOWER-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;NOT GENUINE ;;;
3552391-004;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO JINTANG TEMPLE-SILVER30MM;MEDAL;NOT GENUINE ;;;
3640703-022;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO INSCRIPTION-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;PF 69 MATTE http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/d2049d64-cafe-43b5-b05d-4bafab3c0686_obv.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/d2049d64-cafe-43b5-b05d-4bafab3c0686_rev.jpg;
3640703-023;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO WENFENG TOWER-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;PF 69 MATTE http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/366bade2-c6f4-4838-9dbb-cc6b9159a7fc_obv.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/366bade2-c6f4-4838-9dbb-cc6b9159a7fc_rev.jpg;
3640703-024;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO JINTANG TEMPLE-SILVER30MM;MEDAL;PF 69 MATTE http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/17c81fab-872d-4f42-9d56-79b750af64e2_obv.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/17c81fab-872d-4f42-9d56-79b750af64e2_rev.jpg;
3640703-025;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO SAILING SHIP-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;PF 69 MATTE http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/9bb4e463-d0c2-47fd-99b2-b1bf8aaa1533_obv.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/9bb4e463-d0c2-47fd-99b2-b1bf8aaa1533_rev.jpg;
3775379-018;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO WENFENG TOWER-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;PF 69 MATTE http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/216c0b7a-fd43-4084-a138-79dbb4f08afb_obv.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/216c0b7a-fd43-4084-a138-79dbb4f08afb_rev.jpg;
3775379-019;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO JINTANG TEMPLE-SILVER30MM;MEDAL;PF 70 MATTE http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/bec550e1-85af-4f08-8293-8d532ff1dcac_obv.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/bec550e1-85af-4f08-8293-8d532ff1dcac_rev.jpg;
3775379-020;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO INSCRIPTION-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;PF 69 MATTE http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/20c842ed-a822-4f1b-9dfb-5c62722d637d_obv.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/20c842ed-a822-4f1b-9dfb-5c62722d637d_rev.jpg;
3775379-021;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO SAILING SHIP-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;PF 69 MATTE http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/159c2b11-d2b6-4a7d-9cea-00abe9119615_obv.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/159c2b11-d2b6-4a7d-9cea-00abe9119615_rev.jpg;
3785977-028;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO INSCRIPTION - 30mm;SILVER;PF 69 MATTE http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/04f9bcc1-278c-400f-a7b2-698f4f728182_obv.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/04f9bcc1-278c-400f-a7b2-698f4f728182_rev.jpg;
3785977-029;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO WENFENG TOWER - 30mm;SILVER;PF 69 MATTE http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/5ddfb774-8aa4-48fd-90f5-ca934eafbe82_obv.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/5ddfb774-8aa4-48fd-90f5-ca934eafbe82_rev.jpg;
3785977-030;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO SAILING SHIP - 30mm;SILVER;PF 69 MATTE http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/ccb53c6e-ecf4-4c6f-a905-00430f338181_obv.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/ccb53c6e-ecf4-4c6f-a905-00430f338181_rev.jpg;
3785977-031;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO JINTANG TEMPLE - 30mm;SILVER;PF 70 MATTE http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/59e4aed9-a6ea-4d3b-8689-daba23c5c13c_obv.jpg http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/59e4aed9-a6ea-4d3b-8689-daba23c5c13c_rev.jpg;

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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #43 on: March 15, 2014, 11:04:12 AM »
NGC graded specimens:

2770489-032;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO INSCRIPTION-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;PLATED ;;;
2770489-033;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO JINTANG TEMPLE-SILVER30MM;MEDAL;PLATED ;;;
2770489-034;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO SAILING SHIP-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;PLATED ;;;
2770489-035;1980 CHINA JIANZHEN TOURING EXPO WENFENG TOWER-SILVER-30MM;MEDAL;PLATED ;;;
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No images and "Total Graded at" is blank.

According to Max Spiegel of NGC from last year March, NGC does not grade plated.  Hmm.

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Re: 1980 Silver Jiazhen Medal Set
« Reply #44 on: March 17, 2014, 09:36:27 PM »
I believe it's plated; not sure.  Here are hi-res pictures.
Thanks for the high res pictures. Due to the lighting, I still cannot conclude whether it is gold plated or brass. But the numerous dots on the surface resemble those on my brass set. I have not seen any gold plated version, though. I will ask those in China to give their opinion.