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Re: SELLING: 1995 5 x 1 oz Gold Traditional Culture Set NGC PF69 UC
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2013, 01:55:42 PM »
The discussion is here:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbbs.jibi.net%2Fdispbbs.asp%3Fboardid%3D176%26Id%3D235442&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=gb2312

Basically, a veteran collector (Shrimp Across the River, real name Kong Dejing) questioned the data from Ge. He said that originally only the Lion Dance and Peking Opera were planned, and so reference materials of  these two coins appeared together. (There is criticism from other collectors of the incompatible coins in the Traditional Culture sets, too. Nobody understands how come Tang Tai Zong or Genghis Khan was included in the sets.) The five gold coins were not minted together. There were no COAs with the same number, and there were restrikes. (I am not sure whether "restrikes" refers to the fact that the set was not minted together, or the same coin was restruck later.) Often single coins were sold, not a whole set, and he had seen many of them.

I looked the Champion auction that ended in Dec 2010, it stated the mintage of 1000. Do you think it could be due to the "restrikes" in 1993?

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Re: SELLING: 1995 5 x 1 oz Gold Traditional Culture Set NGC PF69 UC
« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2013, 02:05:49 PM »
I looked the Champion auction that ended in Dec 2010, it stated the mintage of 1000. Do you think it could be due to the "restrikes" in 1993?
Many auctions only go with the official release number, as Ge's is considered unofficial.

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Re: SELLING: 1995 5 x 1 oz Gold Traditional Culture Set NGC PF69 UC
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2013, 02:07:21 PM »
The discussion is here:
http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbbs.jibi.net%2Fdispbbs.asp%3Fboardid%3D176%26Id%3D235442&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=gb2312

Basically, a veteran collector (Shrimp Across the River, real name Kong Dejing) questioned the data from Ge. He said that originally only the Lion Dance and Peking Opera were planned, and so reference materials of  these two coins appeared together. (There is criticism from other collectors of the incompatible coins in the Traditional Culture sets, too. Nobody understands how come Tang Tai Zong or Genghis Khan was included in the sets.) The five gold coins were not minted together. There were no COAs with the same number, and there were restrikes. (I am not sure whether "restrikes" refers to the fact that the set was not minted together, or the same coin was restruck later.) Often single coins were sold, not a whole set, and he had seen many of them.


Frank,

thanks for sharing this! If I remember correctly I saw single coins about a dozen times the last three years (mainly at auctions in China and Germany). I wonder when and where he did see these "many times" ... unfortunately he doesn't share any proof.

@pandaccumulator: sure, you are right ... I just wanted to share the only reference point I know ...

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Re: SELLING: 1995 5 x 1 oz Gold Traditional Culture Set NGC PF69 UC
« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2013, 03:42:49 PM »
dc55232: Thank you for sharing the auction information with us.

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Re: SELLING: 1995 5 x 1 oz Gold Traditional Culture Set NGC PF69 UC
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2013, 04:33:58 PM »
Thanks for the kind words and very useful information from the great people of the CCF.

Love the Monty Python sketch :-)