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~~ READ THE TRADING RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« on: December 05, 2012, 03:07:23 PM »
CCF and staffs are not reponsible for any transactions.   We are only providing a free platform for you to connect to buyer, seller or trader.   Trade fair but use normal caution.

B.S.T. FORUM RULES:

1. Sellers must have at least 50 posts and must have been a member for at least 60 days and no more than 3 negative Karma to participate in B.S.T. forum.
2. Limited to 2 threads per 24 hours per member.
3. Limited to 3 auction style listings per 24 hours per member.
4. Start your topic with the word 'Buying', 'Selling', or 'Trading'.
5. Chinese numismatic related items are preferred.
6. B.S.T. forum TOPIC URL must be either provided when leaving feedback or sent to admin for verification. 
7. No bad language in feedback comments.
8. CCF Staff reserve the right to remove listings without any prior notice.
9. All trades are made at your own risk.

CCF AUCTIONS RULES:

1. Sellers must have at least 200 posts and must have been a member for at least 6 months to participate in CCF Auctions, not limited to forum staffs, and well known reputable dealers.
2. Eligible members who are interested to sell, please first get approval from the staff team.
3. Limited to 10 7-day auctions per day per seller.
4. Sellers must include Shipping, Payment & Return Policy within each item description.
5. Sellers must have a reasonable bid increment set up for each auction.  (suggestion: 10% for lower priced items and 5% for higher price items of the final amount price expecting.)
6. Buyers must read and agree with seller's Shipping, Payment & Return Policy.
7. Buyers are responsible to ask questions before placing bid or order.
8. CCF Auctions URL must be either included when leaving feedback or sent to admin for verification.
9. No bad language in feedback comments.
10. CCF Staff reserve the right to remove listings without any prior notice.
11. All trades are made at your own risk.





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Re: ~~ READ THE B.S.T. RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #1 on: December 05, 2012, 04:03:02 PM »
That's a great improvement. Thank you SB!  :thumbup:

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Re: ~~ READ THE B.S.T. RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #2 on: December 05, 2012, 09:39:39 PM »
On another forum to which I belong, when a reputable, senior member conducts a trade with a new or unestablished member, it is expected that the unestablished member ships the merchandise or makes a payment prior to the senior member fulfilling his/her portion of the transaction. Like this forum now has, there is a feedback system in place whereby you can track the number of positive/negative transactions all members have, and you can read comments posted by the members who've traded with that member before. This seems to consistently work. In the rare case that an unestablished member is unwilling to send first, the two parties have agreed to ship the items to a neutral third party, usually a moderator, who completes the transaction by shipping the items to their appropriate destinations (without receiving monetary compensation). This is a lot to ask of a moderator, but thankfully it is rarely requested. I'd say that about 40-50 transactions for gold and silver bullion are completed daily on the other forum I'm referring to. Just some thoughts . . .

EDIT: I like the new rules put in place, and I very much support the feedback tracking system. Thank you Snowball.

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Re: ~~ READ THE B.S.T. RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2012, 08:58:09 AM »
Mirkkanen, thank you for your inputs.  I appreciate it.   :thumbup:



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Re: ~~ READ THE B.S.T. RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2012, 08:55:07 AM »
That's a great improvement. Thank you SB!  :thumbup:

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Re: ~~ READ THE TRADING RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2012, 07:33:26 PM »
Call me snowball, snow or ball, please not SB.   N8

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Re: ~~ READ THE TRADING RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2013, 02:31:08 PM »
I would like to purpose amending the seller's 25 posts must be valid meaningful contribution.  None of the one word or short phrase replies to every postings to bypass the intent of the rules.

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Re: ~~ READ THE TRADING RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2013, 05:49:24 PM »
I would like to purpose amending the seller's 25 posts must be valid meaningful contribution.  None of the one word or short phrase replies to every postings to bypass the intent of the rules.

Nice.

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Re: ~~ READ THE TRADING RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #8 on: June 06, 2014, 06:06:38 PM »
CCF and staffs are not reponsible for any transactions.   We are only providing a free platform for you to connect to buyer, seller or trader.   Trade fair but use normal caution.

B.S.T. FORUM RULES:

1. Sellers must have at least 25 posts and must have been a member for at least 30 days to participate in B.S.T. forum.

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Snowball

I would like to purpose amending Rule #1 as following:

Sellers must have at least 25 posts and must have been a member for at least 30 days and no more than 3 negative Karma to participate in B.S.T. forum.


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Re: ~~ READ THE TRADING RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2014, 07:04:14 AM »
Snowball

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Re: ~~ READ THE TRADING RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #10 on: July 12, 2014, 01:37:40 PM »
Can you link to eBay auctions if you have less than 25 posts?

Also, I feel dumb but I can't figure out how you give or receive karma. Are there links under each post somewhere or something?

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« Reply #11 on: July 12, 2014, 08:46:40 PM »
Can you link to eBay auctions if you have less than 25 posts?

The short answer is no.

Also, I feel dumb but I can't figure out how you give or receive karma. Are there links under each post somewhere or something?

You may want to read this discussion about badges and karma: http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=7463.0
We decided not to have the badge feature.  You may receive karma but You need to post 163+ messages to give karma.  A "applaud" will increase your karma and a "smite" will decrease your karma.   Applaud or smite (or most likely no reaction) is based on what you wrote and is purely subjective from the giver's perspective.  We are a friendly community and we generally refrain from giving newbie (up to 50 posts) negative karma with one exception: bland, or "ditto-like" answers in rapid succession just to boost your message counts to 25 will definitely get you negative karma.

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« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2014, 01:28:50 PM »
snowball looks like chinese right?
cos u r very care someone call u sb,  haaaaa

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Re: ~~ READ THE TRADING RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2016, 09:23:05 PM »
I would like to purpose the BST rules 1 be amended from one month membership and 25 postings to two months membership and 50 postings. This will provide extra time to assess the credibility of the new seller by forum members.

In addition, if it is possible, the reading and acknowledgement of forum rules be a part of process during the registration as a new member. This may require the change of software.

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Re: ~~ READ THE TRADING RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2016, 09:24:48 PM »
The second paragraph is especially worthy. I am in agreement with this idea.

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« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2016, 09:37:20 PM »
I still would like stricter enforcement of a "posting".

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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2016, 09:41:33 PM »
I would like to purpose the BST rules 1 be amended from one month membership and 25 postings to two months membership and 50 postings. This will provide extra time to assess the credibility of the new seller by forum members.

In addition, if it is possible, the reading and acknowledgement of forum rules be a part of process during the registration as a new member. This may require the change of software.

I have also suggested that the forum software be programmed such that only members who have met the established numeric criteria be allowed by the software settings to post in the BST section. If that is not feasible we can still continue monitoring poster qualification as usual.

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Re: ~~ READ THE TRADING RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2016, 10:06:31 PM »
I would like to purpose the BST rules 1 be amended from one month membership and 25 postings to two months membership and 50 postings. This will provide extra time to assess the credibility of the new seller by forum members.

In addition, if it is possible, the reading and acknowledgement of forum rules be a part of process during the registration as a new member. This may require the change of software.

I second this proposal. Thank you.

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Re: ~~ READ THE TRADING RULES BEFORE POSTING ~~
« Reply #18 on: May 06, 2016, 10:50:56 PM »
I would like to purpose the BST rules 1 be amended from one month membership and 25 postings to two months membership and 50 postings. This will provide extra time to assess the credibility of the new seller by forum members.

In addition, if it is possible, the reading and acknowledgement of forum rules be a part of process during the registration as a new member. This may require the change of software.


Accepted.  I just went through the trading board.  There are several forum sellers are between 25-50 postings. I would suggest that anyone has met the previous requirement before today won't get affected by the new rule.

I can add the forum rules as part of the Registration Agreement.  


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« Reply #19 on: May 06, 2016, 11:36:38 PM »
Thanks and I support the enhancement.  It will help buyers like me to better identify sellers that can be trusted on.

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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2016, 12:01:36 AM »

Accepted.  I just went through the trading board.  There are several forum sellers are between 25-50 postings. I would suggest that anyone has met the previous requirement before today won't get affected by the new rule.

I can add the forum rules as part of the Registration Agreement. 


thank you.

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« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2016, 07:07:22 AM »
Accepted.  I just went through the trading board.  There are several forum sellers are between 25-50 postings. I would suggest that anyone has met the previous requirement before today won't get affected by the new rule.

Could there be another way to be allowed to sell in BST other than post count? I was trying to get to 25 so I could list some coins without making a bunch of junk posts, but now that it's 50 I would probably end up selling on eBay even though I prefer to list here.
 

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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2016, 08:19:02 AM »
Could there be another way to be allowed to sell in BST other than post count? I was trying to get to 25 so I could list some coins without making a bunch of junk posts, but now that it's 50 I would probably end up selling on eBay even though I prefer to list here.
 

Rules have been made and modified here in this forum to keep it safe for all users, and that includes BST. A finance-type of site such as this attracts both good and bad actors and this is not just with respect to immediate needs such as buying and selling coins. I don’t know what the admin response will be to your post but there has been a lot of discussion around this issue recently, for example:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=12445.0

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=12229.0

I believe that incidents such as this will continue to make it even harder to list coins for sale on this site since the main mechanism for controlling/preventing misadventures here is through the peer review process until forum members feel confident of each new member.

My suggestion is to continue the fellowship in the forum, contributing meaningful insights and asking for clarification as things arise. Furthermore, there may be someone you know in this forum to whom you could ship your items to sell here for you if you need to do so sooner than later. There are also other arrangements that involve escrow and things like that. Selling on eBay is even a good idea since it also establishes your credibility while your post count here is growing.

However, a more patient approach could yield better dividends for you. My impression of CCF is that it is not primarily a site for selling Chinese coins and medals. It is more for sharing knowledge and interests in this area. Attempts to fast track the BST process by new members tend to backfire, leading to suspicion and even worse.

These words are written in good faith. Best wishes!
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« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2016, 10:34:28 PM »
Hi Snowball, thanks for the great site you have here. I'm wondering if you have any advice for me. In looking at the rules, I realize that I don't yet meet the criteria to be able to post things for sale.

This is unfortunate because I am preparing to liquidate almost all of my Panda material, and it's a substantial amount. I have about 15 different years of 1oz gold and perhaps $5-10k of misc silver stuff as well.

I would like to offer my collection to the members here first, before trying ebay. It seems that that would be of benefit to the community as well.

If you can think ok for any way whereby I can make my list available, that'd be great.

Thanks for your consideration.
Always buying sheets and monsters of 1oz silver pandas... please let me know if you have any to sell.

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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2016, 11:08:10 PM »
Just start making a few (useful) posts each day. It shouldn't take too long, right? 3 posts per day and in 9 days you could list. Or at 2 posts per day, just 2 weeke. That ain't too bad . . .

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« Reply #25 on: October 09, 2016, 09:28:30 PM »
I did not notice the new rule of 50 posts.  My apology for that.  Just one coin to sell right now. 

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« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2018, 11:24:49 PM »
I used to be a member on the forum under the name of “ChinaSilverandGoldCoins” but my account somehow does not exist anymore. I’m very confused by this and I’ve been a member for some years. I wanted to post in the BST today, but due to the rules I am unable to do so. Is there anything I can do to be able to share my auction?