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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #151 on: January 29, 2013, 03:48:37 PM »
Payment To:   Torri Wilson
Seller's ID:   atorriwilson
Seller's Email:   
craftbhxsaz@hotmail.com

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #152 on: January 29, 2013, 05:48:55 PM »
I stand behind this guy. He's a friend of mine, and he didn't know that was a fake. As soon as I notified him of the problem, he ended the auction.

Mike,

If he is your friend I believe he just ended up suckered. I think this probably happens to others who don't examine the slabbed coins close enough. Tell him to check out this forum and maybe he'll learn a bit like we all do

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #153 on: January 29, 2013, 06:03:09 PM »
Mike,

If he is your friend I believe he just ended up suckered. I think this probably happens to others who don't examine the slabbed coins close enough. Tell him to check out this forum and maybe he'll learn a bit like we all do

Thank you, GDG.  I did tell him what to look out for.  He's just a small seller (but honest) who's trying to squeeze out a few nickels and dimes here and there. Unfortunately, this turns out to be a big loss for him.

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #154 on: January 29, 2013, 06:10:00 PM »
Payment To:   Torri Wilson
Seller's ID:   atorriwilson
Seller's Email:   
craftbhxsaz@hotmail.com

Let me clarify .... that's the info of the fake seller who sold the fake 1989 1/4 oz NY EXPO gold coin to panda-moneya. (my friend's eBay seller ID)

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #155 on: January 29, 2013, 06:15:35 PM »
Let me clarify .... that's the info of the fake seller who sold the fake 1989 1/4 oz NY EXPO gold coin to panda-moneya. (my friend's eBay seller ID)

dynamike51,
Aren't you panda-moneya?
BTW I have bought a lot from panda-moneya and I have to say that he is an excellent and reputable seller.

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #156 on: January 29, 2013, 06:19:20 PM »
dynamike51,
Aren't you panda-moneya?
BTW I have bought a lot from panda-moneya and I have to say that he is an excellent and reputable seller.

Me, panda-moneya?!  My eBay ID is dynamike1951 (in California), panda-moneya is on East Coast.

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #157 on: January 29, 2013, 06:31:59 PM »
Ok thanks. Just wondering.

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #159 on: January 29, 2013, 08:25:37 PM »
Thank you, GDG.  I did tell him what to look out for.  He's just a small seller (but honest) who's trying to squeeze out a few nickels and dimes here and there. Unfortunately, this turns out to be a big loss for him.
As a small seller, it hard to make profit selling in eBay with all the fees.

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #161 on: February 10, 2013, 05:31:08 PM »
Hi everyone

I got two of the fake coins off of eBay recently. How much do you think it would be worth or with the right buyer how much it would be worth and if I sold it back on eBay and state that it is fake with very low mintage  N16

« Last Edit: February 10, 2013, 05:33:26 PM by Micko102012 »

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #162 on: February 10, 2013, 06:30:36 PM »
Welcome to the forum.

Please post better pictures to cover the whole holders. Do not take the pictures with angle. This will not give the 3 dimensional details. 

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #163 on: February 10, 2013, 11:29:07 PM »
Bad Bears: Counterfeit Pandas
 
Counterfeit Alert!

1989 Gold New York Numismatic Convention medals
A wave of fake 1/4 oz. gold 1989 New York Numismatic Convention medals has appeared on the market. They are most easily distinguished from genuine medals by their rough texture in the frosted areas and the softness of the design details. Some are seen in NGC-type holders.

A photo of a genuine 1989 medal is posted below. Please note the smooth texture of the frosting. I will post a photo of a counterfeit as soon as it is available. Shun any medal that looks a little "Sparkly" and doesn’t have a creamy texture as in the photo below.

The three NGC numbers to avoid regarding 1989 1/4 oz NY Expo are:
2765913-015
2770113-003
2758069-003
lyubov3 managed to sell all three, repeatly

Many of known fakes with NGC slabs are marked as "DELETED" in NGC database.  Maybe this is NGC's way of informing people of potential fakes.  I have a growing list of DELETED (37 at this moment) as I delved into NGC database.  I guess I should talked to NGC first before I publish the full list.”

Bad Mazu replica

Someone mention the measurements:

Diameter, 21.8mm (should be 22mm)
thickness, 2.2mm
density, 8.9

And perform the density measurement by suspending the coin by a thin thread in water and measure the weight of displaced water.  Density is calculated by dividing dry weight (6.49g) by weight of displaced water (0.73g) =8.9.  Copper density at room temperature is 8.94 while gold is 19.3.  

Also someone sent it off for XRF measurement and below is the report.  Summary:

2.03% gold
0.186% zinc
91.53 copper
6.26% nickel

So it is definitely a gold-plated Mazu replica.”

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