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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #75 on: November 30, 2017, 05:16:55 PM »
New books published in Nov. 2017, one is for circulated coins and another one for MCC.

The second book has Chinese and English description of MCC. It also has pictures of many varieties. 

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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #76 on: December 01, 2017, 02:56:22 AM »
Where can you buy the MCC book?


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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #78 on: December 01, 2017, 05:34:45 AM »
Thanks

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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #79 on: December 01, 2017, 05:56:09 AM »
$140 seems high for a book.  What is the price in China...anyone else selling in US?

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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #80 on: December 01, 2017, 06:27:57 AM »
Hi

Price in China is 300 rmb


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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #81 on: December 01, 2017, 06:53:06 AM »
Thanks just what I thought....$45 seems right and just not $140.  Everyone should wait to buy as I am sure there will be available in the US at more reasonable prices.

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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #82 on: December 01, 2017, 08:39:27 AM »
Yesterday, I read the post, perused the pictures, completed a search on ebay and purchased one of the available copies of the book.  At some point in the past, someone taught me to buy the book before I buy the coin.  This appears to be a very interesting and informative book which may help me sometime in the future when I wish to buy another coin or evaluate coins in my collection which may be recognized varieties.  It certainly was expensive.  Still, if it helps me, I will quickly recover the extra cost for the book. 

I am going to Asia soon, but I have learned that it is not easy for me to find numismatic books while traveling.  Apparently, these books hold little interest for the majority of people and are stocked in limited locations.

Mark Bonke


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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #83 on: December 01, 2017, 01:09:54 PM »

The second book has Chinese and English description of MCC. It also has pictures of many varieties. 

Interesting to see the high date vs low date on 1988 Endangered Wildlife.  The same high date vs low date exist on the 1/3oz gold 1988 Historical Figure.  The difference is not obvious and I don't expect NGC to recognize it anytime soon.  Still it is interesting that Chinese literature begin to notice them.

The 1990 Dragon & Phoenix has many varieties.  The varieties of 2oz gold described in the book is not the most striking ones.  There are much more significant date shift as I noted here:
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=6886.msg42304#msg42304

The silver D&P 2oz and 1oz have many more varieties than described in the book. 
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=6886.msg48231#msg48231
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=6886.msg42370#msg42370


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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #84 on: December 01, 2017, 02:40:23 PM »
Thanks just what I thought....$45 seems right and just not $140.  Everyone should wait to buy as I am sure there will be available in the US at more reasonable prices.

If you want book in you hand in less than 2 weeks from China to US, the shipping cost will be more than the cost of book, unless you buy multiple copies.

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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #85 on: December 01, 2017, 02:53:43 PM »
Here are more pictures of varieties.

Disclosure: I do not know the authors of this book and do read their research articles posted in websites.

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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #86 on: December 01, 2017, 07:12:00 PM »
Here are more pictures of varieties.

Thank you for the additional pages.  I don't recall the 1993 Marco Polo varieties so that is certainly informative.  The 1994 Unicorn has so many varieties I have to refer to this topic to remember them.
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=5974.15

I'm somewhat surprised of the 1988 double dragon small date vs large date.  The large date silver Y10 is indeed very very rare, something like one out of 100 and the price of 15-to-1 is probably reasonable.  However, the large date gold is not exactly common, either.  It is about 1 out of 15, so I think the 10% price differential is not right.  If I can get a large date G100Y for 10% over the small date, it is a steal, IMO.

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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #87 on: December 01, 2017, 07:31:22 PM »
I’ve been looking for a silver large date for some time with no avail.  If anyone wants to sell one I would be a buyer

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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #88 on: December 02, 2017, 10:54:26 PM »
I’ve been looking for a silver large date for some time with no avail.  If anyone wants to sell one I would be a buyer

That may be quite challenging, especially in PF69.  NGC made it difficult to collect population data, so I stopped.  my database are about 2 years old now.  In it are 330 1988 double dragon entries and only 3 of them are Large Date and all of them are PF68.  This is before they are recognized as a variety so I believe the ratio is unbiased.   One cert number is particularly intriguing, 3683059.  A number of coins were submitted, the first three were the 1988 double dragon.  -001 is the Large Date and graded PF68.  -002 and -003 are small date and graded PF69.  Remember this was before the varieties were recognized.  Submitted side-by-side, NGC graders didn't recognize the varieties, and my guess is the owner didn't either.  If you have 3 coins, 2 are PF69 and 1 is PF68, chance are you'll sell off the PF68, and possibly cheaply!   hmm, that would make an interesting story...

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Re: What's on your shelf?
« Reply #89 on: December 04, 2017, 07:29:13 PM »
MCC version arrived today as I bit the bullit and paid the $140...I think it is worth it for the following reasons:

1) goes beyond pandas to include all MCC’s
2) has a couple new varieties I was unaware of with excellent pics
3) recognizes the 1992 high two  :thumbup: N18 N3

Two thumbs up for this new book!!