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Xiyu (Ding Feng)'s Chinese coin market price guides
« on: October 13, 2012, 01:15:36 AM »
As one of the pioneers of MCC, dealer/collector Xiyu (real name Ding Feng) publishes price guides for MCC regularly on jibi.net. They reflect the general trend of MCC pricing in China. Although it is in Chinese, Google Translate does a good job translating most of the content. Both mintage and current market prices are listed for the important coins. Coins are listed by category in separate posts. The price is in the Chinese Yuan. This is a site visited frequently by Chinese collectors for pricing guidance before making a purchase.

http://bbs.jibi.net/index.asp?boardid=135

For those who do not know, this is how to use Google Translate to translate a web page:

1. Go to this site: http://translate.google.com/translate_buttons
2. Drag the language you need to the "Bookmarks" menu, for example "English"
3. Open the site to translate
4. Click the language (for example "English") under "Bookmarks"

The page will be translated into the language you need.

« Last Edit: October 13, 2012, 01:56:25 AM by fwang2450 »

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Re: Xiyu (Ding Feng)'s Chinese coin market price guides
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2012, 08:13:13 AM »
Very useful, thank you fwang2450, again and again, for sharing CMC infos and points of view from a Chinese perspective!

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Re: Xiyu (Ding Feng)'s Chinese coin market price guides
« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2012, 03:16:34 PM »
Just found this jewel posted here, I need to check in here more often.
Thank you fwang2450!

Edit: May I ask what a "w" after the number in the "Market reference price (yuan)" column means?
For instance "9.5 ~ 10.5w", surely this is not Yuan?
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Re: Xiyu (Ding Feng)'s Chinese coin market price guides
« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 03:49:10 PM »
Just found this jewel posted here, I need to check in here more often.
Thank you fwang2450!

Edit: May I ask what a "w" after the number in the "Market reference price (yuan)" column means?
For instance "9.5 ~ 10.5w", surely this is not Yuan?
Yes, fwang has been very helpful. I believe he or someone else wrote once that "w" is Chinese 万 (or wàn
per Google translate), or 10,000. 

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Re: Xiyu (Ding Feng)'s Chinese coin market price guides
« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 04:52:17 PM »
As dobedo said, "w" stands for 万, Chinese for 10,000.

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Re: Xiyu (Ding Feng)'s Chinese coin market price guides
« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2012, 05:05:13 PM »
Thank you both, dobedo & fwang2450 for clearing that up.

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Re: Xiyu (Ding Feng)'s Chinese coin market price guides
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2012, 07:42:43 PM »
I might as well just give the Google Translated site URL:

http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbbs.jibi.net%2Findex.asp%3Fboardid%3D135&hl=en&langpair=auto|en&tbb=1&ie=gb2312

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Re: Xiyu (Ding Feng)'s Chinese coin market price guides
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2012, 07:50:16 PM »
A couple of notes on the pricing by Xiyu (Xi Rain as translated by Google). First, these prices are best viewed as average dealer prices. One can often find lower prices at auctions in China. Second, these prices are normally higher than US market prices when converted into dollars, except for those really hard-to-find rarities.

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Re: Xiyu (Ding Feng)'s Chinese coin market price guides
« Reply #8 on: October 18, 2012, 08:54:30 PM »
Are the theme an important consideration for rare coins collectors in China or collectors
just buy them because they are rare ? Sometime do you see higher price for a coin with a
 higher mintage (same year same composition)? Are graded coins highly desirable
in China?
Thank you

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Re: Xiyu (Ding Feng)'s Chinese coin market price guides
« Reply #9 on: October 18, 2012, 09:16:49 PM »
Are the theme an important consideration for rare coins collectors in China or collectors
just buy them because they are rare ? Sometime do you see higher price for a coin with a
 higher mintage (same year same composition)? Are graded coins highly desirable
in China?
Thank you
Theme is a VERY important consideration among Chinese collectors. The Year of Children matte silver coin and the Soccer and Volleyball matte silver coins have the same mintage of 1000, but the Year of Children matte coin is way more expensive, at least doubling the price of the Soccer or Volleyball matte coin. It is because sports coins are ignored by a large number of MCC collectors, as they feel these coins are not "Chinese" enough.

Graded coins are catching up, although there is still a camp insisting on OMP.