Topic: What are your future plans re (1984) goldfish medals?

[wg]

Freitag, 21. Oktober 2011, 10:54

http://www.goldseiten-forum.de/index.php?page=Thread&postID=741403#post741403

pics

http://www.goldseiten-forum.de/index.php?page=Thread&postID=752634#post752634

[wg]

sorry .. forgot you must be member to see the pics

here one more time

[badon]

That's one of the nicest 1990 goldfish boxes I have seen. The carved stone goldfish is unusually attractive. How old is that price list? I see it has pagodas with a date of 1982. I don't see the 1984 goldfish listed.

[low]

Low, how do you tell the difference between Shenyang and Shanghai for that set?

http://bbs.jibi.net/dv_rss.asp?s=xhtml&boardid=82&id=199062&page=7

[wg]

@ badon

price list is from oct. 2011

emk

they list 2 x gold fish 1990 but when i get the coins 1 set was 1990 and one 1984

[aragog]

@ badon

price list is from oct. 2011

emk

they list 2 x gold fish 1990 but when i get the coins 1 set was 1990 and one 1984

and 2000 set price is/was funny, besides those you checked, otherwise it`s not that cheap and from their present offer there is nothing to choose from.

[poconopenn]

Sorry poconopenn.

The NGC graded set is not Shanghai Mint.

The following link (in the middle of the page), posted by the same author of your link, has mentioned this NGC graded set as Shanghai Mint. The coin with missing colunm of center hall in the reverse is not necessary for all three coins. As soon as I have the permisson from the owner of the set in US, I will post the detailed picutres.

http://bbs4.xx007.cn/dispbbs.asp?boardid=10&replyid=3996317&id=2466816&page=163&skin=0&Star=1

This 3-coin NGC PF69 set was sold for $14,000 in 2011.


 

[low]

Poconopenn,

The shape of the 5 stars cannot lie.

Shanghai coins has small stars, and Shenyang coins has large stars. The NGC set shows large stars, consistent with coins minted by Shenyang Mint. Look at the photos in reply #96.

If you get the chance, take the NGC coins and compared it against a pair of 1985 Great Wall $1, both Shengyang (wide date) and Shanghai (narrow date).

[poconopenn]

Poconopenn,

The shape of the 5 stars cannot lie.

Shanghai coins has small stars, and Shenyang coins has large stars. The NGC set shows large stars, consistent with coins minted by Shenyang Mint. Look at the photos in reply #96.

If you get the chance, take the NGC coins and compared it against a pair of 1985 Great Wall $1, both Shengyang (wide date) and Shanghai (narrow date).

IMO, the NGC graded set is small stars, Shanghai Mint. Better picture of this set was posted in the following link (Nov., 2011 auction result). Unfortunately, the link is not workable at this moment.

http://www.airmb.com/chengshifengguang/jianguo-35-zhounianshanghaibanjingzhibipaichu-88888-yuan/

I will open a new thread in next two days to discuss the details of this rare proof set. The small stars for Shanghai Mint and large stars for Shenyang Mint coins are known to most collectors of proof sets. All fens, jaios, yuans produced in 1982, 1984-1986 have small and large stars versions. Currently, I am selling a pair of 1985 1 Yuan at ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/150914958888?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

[low]

Thanks Poconopenn.

Large photos for the NGC set will be good, if available.

Looking at your ebay listing, sorry to say, the SD (left coin) should be Shanghai. The right coin should be Shenyang.

http://search.ebay.com/160842606808 - Shenyang large date

[poconopenn]

Looking at your ebay listing, sorry to say, the SD (left coin) should be Shanghai. The right coin should be Shenyang.

http://search.ebay.com/160842606808 - Shenyang large date

Thanks for notice the incorrect label.

[badon]

I just started a topic that everyone following this discussion will probably be interested in:

badon was wrong about these 1984 22 g silver goldfish fakes - opinions?

[wg]

http://www.ebay.de/itm/China-Gold-Fisch-Set-1990-Silber-Silver-in-Blister-Yuan-/330822093185?pt=M%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen&hash=item4d06888981


regards

[silvercoins]

Thanks badon...can't imagine a better response. It'd be great to be at the beginning of a potential family heirloom. We'll see how the certification works out.

Here are photos of the box set, and a closeup of one of the coins. Any and all thoughts are much appreciated!

Thanks again.
SC

[Hippanda]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHINA-1984-GOLDFISH-MEDAL-SET-NGC-NCS-Silver-Plated-Brass-/170941709383?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item27cceb7c47