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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #90 on: December 14, 2012, 10:10:13 AM »
Ah, I see, thank you. Narrow face must be the type called 剑毛龙 in China.

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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #91 on: January 18, 2013, 06:57:17 AM »
I got another sample of this rare type, with an interesting die chip on the reverse. Beautiful PCGS XF-40  :001_smile:
http://www.dragondollar.com/coins/chinese-coins-2/rare-szechuen-dollar-silver-ink-blots/

There was a similar one on eBay recently which went for $800 USD, NGC VF-30, quite a bargain considering that I paid mine ¥20,000 RMB.
The NGC one is definitely not as nice as mine ( :laugh:)but still far from a 垃圾龙.

PCGS-ASIA, would it be against your company policy to post pictures of the AU-58 one? I am very curious to see how it looks like, since this type should probably never have full scales on the dragon body with such the die issues?

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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #92 on: January 18, 2013, 09:36:22 PM »
 :thumbup1:

No cud on reverse here.

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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #93 on: January 18, 2013, 10:09:10 PM »
Thanks a lot! That's really interesting, this coin has the obverse of the 无头车, and is probably an early strike: both eyes are still visible and the doubling is still visible on the "Szec" part of "Szechuen". Full dentils as well.

Edit: actually the obverse is another die too; the left rosette, the clouds on the left of the pearl and the flames surrounding the pearl are significantly different.

The reverse was made with another die though: the 省 character "tail" is different, the rosettes are shaped differently (no dot inside them as well), and most of all the 庫 in 庫平 is intact...

Very impressive coin, its owner is a lucky man.
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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #94 on: January 19, 2013, 12:40:58 AM »
A pleasure.  You do great service to the Chinese numismatic community.

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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #95 on: January 23, 2013, 05:13:26 PM »
Freshly graded :)

A Chihli 1908 卷3旗4 罗马体 (Roman type), identifiable by the swash of the 4 instead of a regular serif: http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/26759331/



The 老江南 I had posted before: http://www.pcgs.com/Cert/26759332/ (you guys were harsh, VF details when it still has a lot of luster  :tongue_smilie:)


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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #96 on: January 23, 2013, 10:06:02 PM »
老江南:

 N24

Oh, and I think I saw these coins - I remember noting that it was a swash 4 (up only) and not a cross 4.

In my mind, they are different!

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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #97 on: January 24, 2013, 12:54:13 AM »
The 罗马体 is indeed very different from the classic (and much more common) cross 4. It uses a modified 33th year die (same dragon design, big S in Hsu, bumpy E in Pei), instead of the 34th year. All other "34" varieties use the new 1908 dragon. There is a big price difference between the 罗马体 and other 34th year varieties in China. My VF35 could be sold for ¥40,000 RMB, while a regular cross 4 would go for half that.

Please compare the PCGS picture above with these 2 samples :)


Year 33, big S, bumpy E, shallow scales


Classic 1908 except the 34.

I should make a post about Beiyang 34 varieties some day, I really like them.
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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #98 on: January 24, 2013, 12:56:52 AM »
^We call the last picture above "Fancy 3"

I agree completely.

I'm on point.  I'll do what I might.

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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #99 on: February 19, 2013, 01:40:29 AM »
Dear happycoins II,

I am sorry that I came back with my answer so late. I was busy with toying my old Shanghai tokens, which became my the center of my interest next to Republic of China coins.

You Shandong YSK variety 1914 is genuine and a matter of fact it is beautiful coin.

I don't understand the reson why PCGS denied to grade it by saying that it is "authenticity unverifiable".

I compared the picture of your Shandong YSK 1914 to the one which I found (picture below) and also to some other one and I couldn't find differences.

I think you should try to send it to NGC and if the result will be similar to PCGS result then try to sell this coin in a raw.

Good luck and happy collecting my friend!
KONDi
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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #100 on: February 24, 2013, 05:15:41 AM »
Chinese coin or Medal?
To which year does this coin?






This item is a modern souvenir medal

Obverse
楊貴妃 Highest-ranking imperial concubine Yang Guifei  (Tang Dynasty)
Reverse
中国古代四大美女 Four Great Beauties (i.e. four ancient Chinese women, renowned for their beauty)


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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #101 on: March 21, 2013, 01:07:36 AM »
呵呵, after one year I finally found another Peiyang with dots...
http://www.dragondollar.com/coins/china-empire/1908-chihli-dollar-with-dots/

This variety is quite interesting. I have the theory that the 1911 central mint dot after dollar, Kiangnan 1904 dot before 7 and this variety were minted in 1911 from old dies as emergency currency, and the dots were added to identify the restruck coins (which may not have been of the same purity or consistent quality). On the aforementioned coin types, the dot is always around the English denomination, since the Peiyang dollar does not have an English denomination and already had dots around the legend, putting the dot in the center would be a plausible idea...

This variety is very rare though, I had a hard time finding this new specimen.

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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #102 on: March 31, 2013, 10:55:47 AM »


I just bought a nice PCGS AU55 新疆版 (Sinkiang YSK dollar).  N16

Edit: precise variety name should be 新疆大头小叶大耳版
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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #103 on: April 14, 2013, 06:41:50 AM »
Just got a new Pearl Scales Dragon (珍珠龙):


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Re: Post your newest older Chinese coin
« Reply #104 on: April 20, 2013, 08:30:31 AM »
My cute 胖3 (fat 3)  N16



I really start to like PCGS secure+, you guys take great pictures.