Topic: Post your newest older Chinese coin

[davidt3251]

I think there might be something wrong with the NGC site/database today. It is very slow and even NGC coins which I have had imaged, the response it " No coin was found matching that certification number. "

[Birdman]

NGC website can not find this grade coin (3313779-015). This is defintely a red flag.

IMO, the coin from Stacks Bowers was produced from the same die as HA coin, but was polished on obverse to remove some lumpy marks on the rim. Based on the uncharacteristic wearness of the rim surface, in addition to the same scratch marks, IMO, both coins are fake.

Thanks for your sharing your thoughts Poconopenn

I think there might be something wrong with the NGC site/database today. It is very slow and even NGC coins which I have had imaged, the response it " No coin was found matching that certification number. "

The NGC website is working again now, and the coin is listed http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/index.aspx?CertNumber=3313779-015

A few quick thoughts...In comparing images of the coin from the Stack auction and the Heritage Auction again, my gut feeling is that they are the exact same coin (not just from the same dies).  There are just too many tiny black toning spots that are identical.  I agree, however, that the rims of the Stack Coin have hairlines that don't appear on the Heritage coin.  Perhaps this is damage that was done after the person removed the Heritage coin from its slab?  It is perhaps worth noting that another big Annam coin from the same auction also has hairlines on the rim.  http://stacksbowers.com/Auctions/AuctionLot.aspx?LotID=513306 .  I bet these two coins were from the same collector.  Perhaps he had the bad habit of lovingly polishing the coins in his collection?  Also, the surface of the coin I just bid on seems right.  I own or have owned several high grade NGC-slabbed big Annam coins, and the surfaces of all the coins have a certain appearance with a distinctive striations and bumps.

Here are a few that I've posted images for:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=5024.msg40953#msg40953
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=5024.msg30379#msg30379
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=5005.msg28717#msg28717
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=2883.msg20104#msg20104

The surface of the coin in question (with the exception of the hairlined rims) "feels" right to me.  I can't rule out that the a counterfeiter has a master duplication, but I'd want to do a bit more research before I conceded that.  Perhaps a few others can chime in?  I'd like to resolve this issue with some level of certainty.

[dragondollar]

I also have doubts about the edge, but can we be positive it is not due to the picture lighting? The HA picture seems to have been taken with a flash and is more "shiny", while the pictures Birdman posted are more dark. The toning is really identical, which is why I'd be enclined to think it is the same coin... The fact it isn't searchable on NGC is worrysome, though.

Edit: well, on preview, basically what Birdman said 

[damynke2]

Hello-

I am new here today and wanted to post this Yun-Nan Dollar I just received and get some feedback if everyone would be so kind.  I purchased a lot of Chinese Republic coins and assumed that this was a fake, but from the poor images didn't know.  Now that I have received it I am trying to find reasons to identify it as fake and am running out!  The coin is just under 40mm and weights in at 26.73 grams.  What does everyone think?  Date?

[AllSong]

I am new on the board aswell, so I´ll start posting the first Chinese Republic coin I got less than 1 year ago. Would also appreciate comments 

[AllSong]

My first Imperial Chinese coin was this 10 cent, not the best condition though, but very cheap (so if it turns out to be fake, I wouldn´t cry too much).

[dragondollar]

Pearl Dragon, cloud under K (江南戊戌珍珠龙，K下云)

[basa]

Hello to you all. Im new here on this forum. I have this beautiful  solid silver, I think, coin from my mom s old chest which is belonged to my grandfather. it is definitely old piece, and no doubt authentic  i was hoppin to get true value on it. if you need pic of it i can upload, give me some idea what its worth on todays market. thanks basa It is 34th YEAR OF KUANG HSU <<<< PEI YANG

[basa]

i cant upload a photo please help!!!

[AllSong]

Use the "Additional Options" button below the post you are writting, then "Attach". I hope it helps 

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?action=help;page=post#attachments

[AllSong]

This post might help you aswell with uploading the pic...

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=7896.msg46156#msg46156

[basa]

THANKS ALLSONG 

[Pandapaule]

Hello

I hope you can help me.
Is this coin real or fake?
non-magnetic
Diameter 2.3 cm
Weight 5.39 grams





Thank you

[basa]

please experts, post your expert  advices, thanks

[Pandapaule]

Someone an idea? Real or not?

Thank you