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Offline Panda Halves

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*IMPORTANT* New Grading Requirements for Chinese Medals!
« on: January 06, 2012, 10:07:58 AM »
"NGC will only grade and encapsulate modern Chinese medals that have been made at one of the three official Mints of China (Shanghai, Shenyang, and Shenzhen Guobao). While NGC maintains a large record of official Chinese medals, we cannot guarantee that we can attribute all medals sent to us.

In order for NGC to review any official Chinese Medal (or Medallion) for attribution and grade, we request that any medal submitted to us have the appropriate verification documentation (or certificate of authenticity issued by the People’s Bank of China (China Mint Company). Verification documentation should include the date of the medal (or year struck/issued), diameter and metal content, mint it was struck at and the mintage. Inclusion of documents does not guarantee attribution and grading. Failure to include this information could result in the medal being returned un-graded with a note signifying the coin to be Non Eligible.

Three examples of Chinese medals that are eligible for NGC certification (all of which where struck at the Shanghai Mint, China) are:

1984 Hong Kong Expo – Panda Silver 1 Ounce Proof, 1,000 Minted
1989 Folk Gods Series: Maitreya Buddha Gold ¼ Ounce, Proof, 5,000 Minted
1989 Zhao Gongming Silver 3.3 Ounces, Proof, 2,430 Minted

Medals should be submitted under regular service tiers based on value." - www.ngc.com

Source:
http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?IDArticle=2526&chinese-medals

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Re: *IMPORTANT* New Grading Requirements for Chinese Medals!
« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2012, 11:01:28 AM »
COA has to be sent in for every metal now?  Or just required for not well known metals?

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Re: *IMPORTANT* New Grading Requirements for Chinese Medals!
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 04:12:44 PM »
Like what is this?  It is hard to read the certificate but it looks like it says China Great Wall Coins Investments, Ltd.  Obviously not an official mint product, though the 2 coins are the medal is not.

Right?

http://topworldcoins.com/coins-catalog/china/13010-china-2011-2x10-yuan-%2B-jubilee-medal-%2350-years-world-wildlife-fund-%28wwf%29.%23-proof-jubilee-silver-collection

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Re: *IMPORTANT* New Grading Requirements for Chinese Medals!
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 06:40:47 PM »
http://topworldcoins.com is a good and honest seller?

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Re: *IMPORTANT* New Grading Requirements for Chinese Medals!
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2012, 10:19:19 PM »
http://topworldcoins.com is a good and honest seller?
Ok.  Here what I found about this site and it is a major issue in my opinion.  It appears the site is not secured (using http instead of https).  Any online retailer or site that required an id/password should at minimum be implementing secure protocol (https) during the logged in and payment processes.

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Re: *IMPORTANT* New Grading Requirements for Chinese Medals!
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2012, 03:53:23 PM »
That's probably an oversight on their part, they probably tried to do all the web stuff in house, I have seen that with companies before when they first started up online, but then again they me be fly by night.  They are in Germany, their facebook pages has 2 likes.


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that was all that was on their facebook info page, I wasn't really interested in that set, have 2 of the 3 coins, just wondered if anyone had seen the medal?

From reading in the other thread apparently Mints will do private runs of coins, if you got the coin.  Pun intended, but not sanction it as an official Mint issue, just that it was produced there.

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Re: *IMPORTANT* New Grading Requirements for Chinese Medals!
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2012, 05:14:53 AM »
Last week I was in contact with Michael Corley who is handling all authenticity issues for Chinese modern coins and medals at NGC. As I am currently in the process of grading some medals which are not yet known to NGC, I wanted to share how simple the process is. It took no more than 2-3 emails to receive the approval. All that was needed are photos of the medals and a photocopy of the COA . If you have no COA then you need any other document (catalog, book, etc.) that specifies the year it was struck, mintage and dimensions. After short review, Michael then verified some of the specifications and a day later I received an approval to ship the medals for grading.
Michael is very kind, helpful and replies very fast to emails. This week I am working on an approval for another set of medals.

Last month I shipped few medals that are already known to NGC (identical medals were previously graded by them). In this case no COA or any other document was needed or asked for.
 

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Re: *IMPORTANT* New Grading Requirements for Chinese Medals!
« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2012, 08:59:56 PM »

Basically how it works over here too.  If we don't have a reference, provide provenance.
We'll do it if we can.

Got in some Netherlands/Amsterdam Boordgeld tokens the other day.
(Ship tokens from around 1943-60ish)

Tokens looked legitimate, but, we didn't have the reference.  Refund.

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Re: *IMPORTANT* New Grading Requirements for Chinese Medals!
« Reply #8 on: October 23, 2012, 08:04:30 AM »
Gilmore,
       Thank you for answering my questions before I asked.I have ordered some large Panda medals and was wondering who to contact at NGC and what was required.I had checked the NGC site and found the part about the three approved mints and COA requirements. I did plan on getting approval before sending the medals on a trip across the country and I'm glad that Michael Corley is the person to talk to. You are right, IMO, that he is very helpful and will get you answers to your questions in a very timely manner. I have nothing but good things to say about Mr. Corley.   

Russ