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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #120 on: July 08, 2015, 12:20:20 AM »
Hello, I have acquired this supposed 1914 coin. I've found two anomalies: 1) the second character on the obverse does not conform to any of the six character coins I've seen, and 2) there are only three lines for the collar, when all others I've seen have four. Please assist me in identifying this coin. Thank you!

Welcome to the forum!

This is a 1920 (not 1914) low quality reproduction.

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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #121 on: July 11, 2015, 11:24:37 AM »
Welcome to the forum!

This is a 1920 (not 1914) low quality reproduction.

Thank you. I could only find a couple pictures online that had the same characters on it as mine.

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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #122 on: July 14, 2015, 02:38:33 PM »
REAL 1914 KANSU & NGC GRADABLE $35,000

@poconopenn. Can you please comment n this coin?
Are these coins genuine?

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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #123 on: July 14, 2015, 02:50:55 PM »
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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #124 on: July 14, 2015, 10:07:43 PM »
@poconopenn. Can you please comment n this coin?
Are these coins genuine?

The pictures are not good enough to see the surface details.

Here are high resolution pictures of genuine coin. The first two pictures are NGC AU58 and the other pictures are for PCGS XF-45. 

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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #125 on: August 30, 2015, 04:11:28 PM »
Just for future reference.

Stack’s & Bowers Auction, August 2015, H. K.

http://www.stacksbowers.com/BrowseAuctions/LotArchive/tabid/805/ProductID/888966/AuctionID/6106/Lot/52090/Default.aspx

Condition Census Yuan Shih-kai Pattern Dollar

CHINA. Pattern Dollar, Year 3 (1914). Tientsin Mint. NGC MS-64.

L&M-72; K-643; KM-Pn32; WS-0166; Wenchao-pg. 534#858 (rarity three stars); Shanghai Museum-Mr. Shi Jiagan's collection-pg. 137#633; Sun-III-2-15. Struck in silver. Proposed pattern for the 1914 Yuan Shih-kai Dollar of Year 3 (1914) L&M-63. Vastly different from the adopted type as this piece features a three-quarters facing portrait of Yuan Shih-kai, rather than the left facing portrait found on the circulation issues. Two major varieties exist of this pattern designed by chief engraver Luigi Giorgi. This is an example of the first type which is unsigned and produced from dies with a brilliant finish. A lustrous obverse compliments the handsome portrait, with toning found to the peripheries. The reverse features an olive green toning which is seldom encountered and truly appealing, with faint iridescent hues found along the rim. Tied with one other piece for finest certified at NGC. PCGS grades this issue as specimen, of which there is just one in this numeric grade, none finer. Great eye appeal and an excellent example of this RARE and highly sought after type.

Estimate: $55,000.00 - $75,000.00

NGC MS-64.

Price realized: $83,650

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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #126 on: February 17, 2016, 11:15:31 PM »
thanks for all the pictures. Love it!

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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #127 on: June 06, 2016, 10:20:11 AM »
Hello, I have just been asked to research the 1914 and I found your site. Please can you give me an idea of value? I see several different values listed and variables associated with this coin.





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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #128 on: June 08, 2016, 08:48:51 PM »
Anyone??

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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #129 on: June 08, 2016, 11:00:07 PM »
I think it is common variety and worth about $70-$80.

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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #130 on: July 24, 2016, 05:07:05 PM »
Hello Kondi! I was doing some research on my "Fat man" coin online, and I happened to stumble upon this forum and your post. Sad to say that I know absolutely nothing about coins, and even less about Chinese coins.. (Hopefully that will slowly but surely change) A good friend of mine got me the coin for my birthday 2 years ago and since then my dear Fat man hasn't left my side for a moment.
My friend bought it in an antique shop in China and said the coin was roughly 100 years old. More than that I do not know. So now I turn to you. Is it possible to tell from these pictures what kind of variety of "Fat man" my coin is - or if it is a fake? It would make me super happy to learn more about my precious coin N3


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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #131 on: August 03, 2016, 06:15:23 AM »

Hi !
What do you think about this one ? Good or bad ?
Thanks in advance !
mateus


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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #132 on: August 03, 2016, 10:58:41 AM »
Hello!
What can you say about these one?Fake or not :blush:?
Thank you :001_smile:

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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #133 on: February 12, 2017, 01:37:47 PM »
Dear, coin dealer or collector.
If my coin have chop-mark is it worth money? (it is not like many but just one or two) how much value would it be cost less?
Already, NGC graded it L&M 63(year 1914 common one).

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Re: Fatman dollar 1914-common but rare...
« Reply #134 on: October 26, 2017, 11:47:18 AM »

Hello, Any help on these would be appreciated. Hard to determine value.
These came in a larger collection with some cast knife money, spade, etc. (thats a whole other set of research)

They are all 92.5-93% silver (xrf tested) and all weigh between 26.7-26.9g.

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