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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2505 on: February 10, 2020, 08:22:26 PM »
Another one introduced.

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This 2 Oz Silver coin is the first issue in the series “Four Heavenly Kings” and is dedicated to Duowentian, the ruler of the rain and the chief of the four kings. The coin presents detailed Ultra High Reliefs, has a selective Gold plating, has an Antique Finish and comes in a case, along with the Certificate of Authenticity. Limited mintage of only 555 pieces.


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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2506 on: February 10, 2020, 09:33:41 PM »
Most World Mints copy Chinese designs or themes.      They may be beauties but your best buys are real Chinese coins/medals early years.   This market has gone up down, up down the last 10 yrs and many of us have seen the cycles so we are aware of which early year Chinese coins/medals are wise to own.     At some point soon when gold breaks out, the real Chinese that have had large past premiums will shoot to the moon.      Just my two cents but it would be best to focus on them so you can enjoy the high premiums that will return.      IF you own the rare, high grade, early years then you can sell one for profit in the near future and buy a lot of the other World mint coins/medals you like....

As posted earlier, we could see racing pigeon prices.    Google to 2013 Bart the $400,000 racing pigeon and 2019 Armand the $1.4 million racing pigeon....  IF the wealthy Chinese outbid each other for a bird then why not for rare gold/silver?

jsmineset    USA Watchdog   "God's trump cycles continue" by Bo Polny.       Interesting article and i did email him about numismatic Chinese but no response yet......

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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2507 on: February 10, 2020, 09:57:38 PM »
I agree. I like the early year panda coins.  I don’t have too many modern or early medals, these coins are minted by the Poland mint. Nice details.

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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2508 on: February 12, 2020, 08:14:23 PM »
I agree. I like the early year panda coins.  I don’t have too many modern or early medals, these coins are minted by the Poland mint. Nice details.

These medals may appeal to some for aesthetic reasons but the question is whether they will keep their value or appreciate in future. Currently the consensus opinion does not support a reliable expectation of a increase in future numismatic premiums.
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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2509 on: February 13, 2020, 08:02:47 AM »
China Great Wall Brass 1980 Stamped NGC MS68 Rare Medal 60 mm

https://www.ebay.com/itm/China-Great-Wall-Brass-1980-Stamped-NGC-MS68-Rare-Medal-60-mm-Great-Holiday-Gift/193230606661?hash=item2cfd711145:g:9REAAOSww-dd2Uq7

 






 1980 MS 66 Plum Great Wall brass and 1980 PF 70 Chen Jian God of Longevity 36 mm  2 pop silver both say unavailable.     Same seller and member here.     Did both sell?....

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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2510 on: February 15, 2020, 09:09:09 PM »
This first article will soon go global.    Read both.    Steve Quayle site has both...

Steve Quayle   1)  Reddit   "I am a senior Chinese military intelligence officer & I know the truth......"

It says 5 days for our bodies to painfully melt until death.    Book of Revelation says Pestilence.      About 15 to 20 yrs ago i chose to Bible study mostly on my own but did Bible study w/ others.   It took me 2 yrs and 4 times thru the book.   The people i studied w/ said you have made the leap of faith, it is real and now you will be attacked by Satan.    That is when all the lies and accusations about me started and the hero NW police laughed in my face as they encouraged the public to murder me.    I wrote many letters about the crimes of police and they all know i am innocent.   The FBI cleared my name about 10 to 12 yrs ago.    Maybe this is how i will pass from this life.    At the end of Time of Tribulation about 7 yrs, God will appear and we either have our names written in the Book of Life or we enter into a Lake of Fire or Lava Lake.    I have interviewed people that died, usually in a Hospital and came back to Life.    Some claim to have seen Heaven and some have seen the Lava Lake.   Heaven is a million times better than anything on this Earth and Hell is a million times worse.    Do non believers or luke warm have time left to Bible study and make the leap of Faith?    How else can your name be written in the Book of Life?....

2)  China watch Canada    Dated Sunday March 23, 2014 article by another Chinese military officer...

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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2511 on: February 16, 2020, 09:07:02 AM »
As i expected the first article was removed on Steve Quayle site.    The Deep State does not allow the truth.    Google to Reddit  "I am a senior......"        Can someone post this link.     It is very important....

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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2512 on: April 10, 2020, 11:00:34 PM »
This is a WOW:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1980-Shanghai-China-Mint-Palace-Lantern-Phoenix-Brass-Medal-RARE-w-butterfly-box-/191565194514?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c9a2ce512&nma=true&si=AN%252BGvOkc4uJMW21pVCNg5k1%252BmCc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The medal did not sell when it was previously listed with a $499 starting bid price. But then was BINed at $888.88 when it was relisted.

It is a rare brass medal for sure, belonging to the much sought-after Auspicious Palace Lantern set with 1980 on it, struck from hand-engraved dies. As far as I know, there are only two surviving specimens, including this one. At least a dozen people watched it when it was first listed, myself included, but did not pull the trigger because of its condition. People expected the seller to lower the price if it did not sell. But then here came the WOW.


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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2513 on: April 10, 2020, 11:34:00 PM »
If this medal is still one of only two known surviving specimens, I would think serious collectors in China might be interested.

I would respectfully request serious offers only.

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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2514 on: April 11, 2020, 08:05:11 AM »
As always, i want to learn.    Have seen this medal before but not the box.    What makes it so rare?    Are there markings on the medal?....

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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2515 on: April 11, 2020, 04:07:08 PM »
I respectfully defer to fwang2450 on this, as he is the unmatched expert on these early medals and can fill in the valuable details.
My understanding is that in addition to touting the hand-engraved dies from the mint's top engravers, only the original first strikes had the date 1980,  the ones being seen without the 1980 are more common restrikes and not nearly as desirable as the ones with the 1980.
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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2516 on: April 11, 2020, 06:23:14 PM »
Thanks and now i understand to look for the date.    Yes, Fwang is a expert but dealers in China have good knowledge too.     Xu or ebay seller Ggoodluck, dragonzeng, Xu Hong, possibly US ebay seller pisces lunar to name a few.    I was a watcher too but out of cash as usual....

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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2517 on: April 11, 2020, 06:50:09 PM »
This box is "different."  I wonder if it is from the PRC.  It is inconsistent with the boxes normally seen in the late 70s and 80s.

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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2518 on: April 11, 2020, 07:08:40 PM »
Yup it's definitely from the PRC.  It's not that unusual for the small mintage special VIP type medal series to have "different" boxes. The fact that it is "different" shows that the series was limited and important.  The 1979 Gold Scenary medals from the same time also come in "special" boxes, in many opinions the absolutely most artistic and ornate boxes ever offered.

Search back in the archives here and you can find similar boxes for these 1980 stamped medals. You will only find a couple of different types, and maybe zero duplicates, which highly suggests the boxes themselves might have even been "one of a kind" for each medal.

Here is another 1980 Qilin Palace Lantern medal in a different but similar ornate hand made box to support that speculation:  (photo from fwang2450)
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Re: WOW of the day
« Reply #2519 on: April 11, 2020, 09:13:59 PM »
Thank you for the information.

Several of the boxes from this era were wooden with intricate designs, decorative brass hinges and decorative brass clasps, such as the boxes for the 1978 archaeological finds gold medal (with the flying horse design), the boxes for the 1984 silver goldfish medals and the boxes for the 1984 silver pagoda medals.   Still, I have never owned one of the truly rare medals from this era and have no idea about the box designs. 

I have never seen a woven box for early Chinese medals.  Interesting.  I appreciate the information and pictures.

Mark Bonke