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Offline Pandora

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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of CCF
« Reply #45 on: March 30, 2011, 03:06:57 PM »
Quote from: badon on March 30, 2011, 02:55:21 PM
Thanks for doing that. It looks like they are responding quickly.

Yes, they have responded quickly to recognize varieties, and also have increased prices for the new varieties :-)
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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of CCF
« Reply #46 on: March 30, 2011, 03:18:29 PM »
I noticed the price increases. That's good for everybody that bought these coins immediately once the news came out that there were varieties. Prices seem to be holding strong too, because the coins are selling even at the higher prices.

Since the mintage estimates that PandaOrLunar has come up with show that all varieties are very rare, even without factoring the possibility that large numbers of them were melted, I think prices will go much higher than they are now. It will be fun to watch, even if I can't buy very many of them.
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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of CCF
« Reply #47 on: March 30, 2011, 07:24:18 PM »
I hope prices do not go very high before I get a chance to buy a super clouded claw :-)
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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of CCF
« Reply #48 on: March 30, 2011, 08:22:28 PM »
Well, you can blame it on the individual(s) who tipped-off the dealers................  >:(
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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of CCF
« Reply #49 on: March 30, 2011, 09:00:21 PM »
It was inevitable, I suppose. I tend to keep things to myself, or just amongst us here and at LBC. If anybody else wants to know, they can humbly read our research :)
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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of CCF
« Reply #50 on: March 30, 2011, 09:35:51 PM »
Agreed.  What happens in CCF stays in CCF :laugh:
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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of CCF
« Reply #51 on: March 31, 2011, 09:52:22 AM »
Has anyone sent one or more silver God of Wealth medals to NGC for grading, requesting recognition of the variety? 

I presently have one medal which was submitted to NCS at the ANA show in Sacramento.  I do not know if it is one of the three recognized varieties or something else.  I certainly did not ask for variety recognition.  Should I do so now?  Has NGC recognized these varieties? 

Recently, NCS conserved and NGC authenticated, graded and slabbed a God of Wealth medal for me without variety recognition.  Should this be resubmitted to them to correct the label? 
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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of C
« Reply #52 on: March 31, 2011, 11:34:00 AM »
 it has been started- JonSoldIt has revised an ebay listing to call  one "Clouded Claw"
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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of CCF
« Reply #53 on: March 31, 2011, 11:56:37 AM »
Quote from: Underbidder on March 31, 2011, 11:34:00 AM
it has been started- JonSoldIt has revised an ebay listing to call  one "Clouded Claw"

...and he changed the price from 1049 BIN to 1199 BIN/BO too :-)

Last sold prices in investment grade:

Clear Claw pf69 - 1600
Clouded Claw pf69 - 1750
Super Clouded Claw pf68 - 1850
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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of CCF
« Reply #54 on: March 31, 2011, 11:57:39 AM »
Quote from: bonke on March 31, 2011, 09:52:22 AM
Has anyone sent one or more silver God of Wealth medals to NGC for grading, requesting recognition of the variety?  

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Recently, NCS conserved and NGC authenticated, graded and slabbed a God of Wealth medal for me without variety recognition.  Should this be resubmitted to them to correct the label?  

I am working on getting recognition now. I'm going to be mentioning some things about NGC variety recognition in my next article, which will hopefully be published today. As far as resubmitting, I think that would add value to your coins, and since it's not expensive, it would probably be worth it.

It seems like things are going like this:

1. variety discovery
2. attentive readers push prices up immediately, and clean out the market
3. dealers start noticing, and they begin buying up coins, so prices go up again
4. the rest of the buyers in the market are made aware by the dealer marketing, prices rise
5. writers recognize the variety in publications like the pricepedia, krause catalog, etc, and prices rise
6. NGC recognizes variety, everyone knows about the variety because it's attached to the coin, prices rise faster than in all the previous steps

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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of CCF
« Reply #55 on: March 31, 2011, 06:12:24 PM »
Quote from: Pandora on March 31, 2011, 11:56:37 AM
...and he changed the price from 1049 BIN to 1199 BIN/BO too :-)

Last sold prices in investment grade:

Clear Claw pf69 - 1600
Clouded Claw pf69 - 1750
Super Clouded Claw pf68 - 1850

Updated:
Last sold prices in investment grade:

Clear Claw pf69 - 1600
Clouded Claw pf69 - 1750
Super Clouded Claw pf68 - 1900

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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of CCF
« Reply #56 on: March 31, 2011, 07:13:37 PM »
Quote from: Pandora on March 31, 2011, 06:12:24 PM
Updated:
Last sold prices in investment grade:

Clear Claw pf69 - 1600
Clouded Claw pf69 - 1750
Super Clouded Claw pf68 - 1900



Is 68 considered an "investment grade"?
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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of CCF
« Reply #57 on: March 31, 2011, 07:17:49 PM »
For such a rare coin, yes. The price gains have proven that, too.
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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of C
« Reply #58 on: March 31, 2011, 09:18:38 PM »
Great work guys! Wonder if there are variants in the 87 God of Longevity Medal....
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Re: 1989 3.3 oz silver god of war and wealth varieties discovered by reiboy of CCF
« Reply #59 on: March 31, 2011, 09:21:08 PM »
I have actually been researching that. Nothing to report so far for the god of longevity.
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