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Offline bonke

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Do you have information about the 1994 China scalloped-edge bimetallic Hong Kong International Expo medal? 

The outside ring is scalloped with a silver-like metal.  The top of the silver states "Hong Kong International Coin Exposition."  The bottom of the silver ring states "China Banknote Printing and Minting Company."  These words are in English on one side and Chinese on the other side.  The inside piece is gold-like metal.  One side of the inside shows the Hong Kong harbor.  The other side shows the Great Wall. The date "1994" is on the inside metal.

Was there a 1994 Hong Kong International Coin Expo?

Was this medal issued to commemorate this Expo?

China Banknote Printing and Minting Company is a part of the Chinese government.  Did they participate in this Expo?

What is the metal content of this medal?  Gold?  Silver?  Other?

What is the weight of the gold/silver/other?  AGW?  ASW?

Mintage?

Were they issued in mint state and proof condition?  Mintage in MS?  Mintage in PF?

Availability?

Is this the first and only scalloped-edge medal (issued by People's Republic of China)?  Is this the first and only scalloped-edge bimetallic medal?

Do you have one in your collection?  Is it graded?

     

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I don't know anything about this, but I can do some looking. Do you have a photo of the coin/medal you're curious about?

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I happen to own one of these coins.  It came as part of the 1994 Bi-Metal Proof Set.  The composition is listed as 24k gold and .999 silver layered over brass.  The weight is 66 grams.  I bought the set for the Phoenix and Dragon which I have since sold.  If you would like to buy this coin it is for sale.

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I happen to own one of these coins.  It came as part of the 1994 Bi-Metal Proof Set.  The composition is listed as 24k gold and .999 silver layered over brass.  The weight is 66 grams.  I bought the set for the Phoenix and Dragon which I have since sold.  If you would like to buy this coin it is for sale.

Thank you for the data.  

Did this proof set include the 10 yuan bimetallic phoenix and dragon with a mintage of 2500?

Do you think this medal is a solid brass piece with layered silver on the outside ring and layered gold on the inside circle?  If so, it has little or no bullion value.  Maybe, it would have some value as a commemorative plated brass medal of low or high mintage?

Do you still have the certificates for this bimetallic proof set with the data for the coin and medal?
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Yes, it came with the 10 yuan Phoenix & Dragon, a 10 yuan Panda Bi-Metal, and the Commemorative Medal.  Yes, I do have the certificate.  The mintage is listed at 400 for the set.  There is no bullion value to the medal, or very little.

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A great picture is located on the NGC site, #3453494-005.  This shows an excellent bimetallic proof medal.  I am surprised that this medal could be gold and silver platted brass.  It looks, in the pictures like a solid silver ring and a solid gold center.  The gold looks lucious in the pictures.

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Stamped "China Banknote Printing and Minting Corp"?  Was this even minted by China Mint?  No mention of it on the China Mint site. Looks like they borrowed the image of Hong Kong and the boat from past China Mint designs? If Gold and silver plated over brass,  shouldn't  this then more accurately be termed a tri-metal?

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Also has image of Great Wall from other China Mint designs I meant to mention.  Nice design, esp with the plum touch. But no mention of Au and Ag weight like other "bi metals". So caveat emptor  I guess.

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There is no weight for Au and Ag, it is silver and gold plate over brass.

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Gorgeous piece!  :thumbup:

Rarely seen, heard mintage was 400, goal was 1888 but they didnt sell well at the expo.
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I have received what looks like a mirror version of
the 1994 Hong Kong Expo medal.

Attached are pictures of a recently purchased pair.
The one on the left is what we normally get with
the frosted sceneries, mirror boat and frosted characters.
The one on the right has mirror sceneries and mirror characters.
They weigh and are sized the same.
I cannot imagine that it would be worth counterfeiting
that medal, but cannot rule that out either.

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very cool!

come with box & cert???

I have them so we can compare.
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No box or certificate or capsule. It came in a baggie.
The gold part has orange tarnish on great
wall side. Silver part looks good with no tarnish.
Thinking about sending to NCS for orange tarnish
removal--they have come through on solid gold coins
with orange stuff. This plated medal work might be different
for that.
The buildings seem to rise above the fields more
in the mirror version. 
Did your mirrors grade well?
Has the variety been recognized?

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I own three of these medals, two are frosted in the center area and one is not.  All are graded NGC PF68UC.  Please let me know if you submit your medals to NGC for authentication, grading and encapsulation.  It would be appropriate for NGC to recognize the two varieties.  On my medal with the non-frosted center area, the letters in the silver ring are frosted (on both sides).

Over the past several years, I have seen several of these medals for sale on Ebay, Clark Smith's website and elsewhere.  I have never noticed the difference in finish.  Your ability to detect these differences is impressive (from my point of view since I did not even notice the differences in the medals in my possession).

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I will submit both medals to NCS and NGC and will let you know
the results. They are oversized and will be on one expensive ticket.
Side by side the difference in variety should be obvious.
Variety Plus choice and mirror/frosty descriptors should help.

If the letters vary in finish relative to the center, maybe
three varieties or more exist. Much variety within a small mintage.

I was lucky to receive these two on the same day to compare.

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A more WOW is this thread started in 2011.  The power of information and computer.

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NGC graded that coin with the mirror details as "Altered Surface".
The normal looking with the frosted details has been graded PF 68 Ultra Cameo.
Seems like an awful lot of work involved to polish the frosted surface details.
Maybe one would do that to hide wear.
Since they are plated, I cannot imagine anyone even attempting that.
Anyway, that is the results for my pair of NGC submitted 1994 Hong Kong Expo Medals.