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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #150 on: December 11, 2012, 02:28:09 AM »
I pull together what I read from this thread and compiled a collage of nine known 2001D types and varieties.  I try to rotate and expand so all images are the same size and orientation.  I draw a red line through the same spot on the panda's bended knee.  Looking at the placement and size of the "D", I have a feeling there are quite a bit more varieties yet to be discovered.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #151 on: December 11, 2012, 07:14:19 AM »
wow nice work!

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #152 on: December 13, 2012, 10:58:05 AM »
Here are the 5 additional small D that showed up in the NGC population this week:  3688355-001 to -005.  They are in China, and one of them is listed on eBay three hours ago with a BIN price of $500.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2001D-1-oz-Silver-Panda-Coin-Small-D-variety-Very-Rare-NGC-MS-69-/261142236291?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3ccd4a4c83

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #153 on: December 13, 2012, 11:00:16 AM »
wow nice,,,

can my OMP selling at USD400? :P

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #154 on: December 13, 2012, 11:09:09 AM »
I would sent it in to NGC and get it graded.  Who know, it may be a MS70!  It is possible, about 3% of 2001D is MS70.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #155 on: December 13, 2012, 11:10:48 AM »
Here are the 5 additional small D that showed up in the NGC population this week:  3688355-001 to -005.  They are in China, and one of them is listed on eBay three hours ago with a BIN price of $500.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2001D-1-oz-Silver-Panda-Coin-Small-D-variety-Very-Rare-NGC-MS-69-/261142236291?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item3ccd4a4c83

For what its worth I am the one who purchased it for $500.00
The other 99 cent start auction is already at US $511 with 2 days to go.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2001D-1-oz-Silver-Panda-Coin-Small-D-variety-Very-Rare-NGC-MS-69-/200861492032?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item2ec4472340

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #156 on: December 13, 2012, 11:18:15 AM »
That's a quick draw and fine trigger work, quick Silverfever!   :thumbup:

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #157 on: December 13, 2012, 11:31:29 AM »
For what its worth I am the one who purchased it for $500.00
The other 99 cent start auction is already at US $511 with 2 days to go.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2001D-1-oz-Silver-Panda-Coin-Small-D-variety-Very-Rare-NGC-MS-69-/200861492032?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item2ec4472340

woah.. u are fast. if u finding to get any 2001D small D OMP. please let me know, might want to sell 1pc, or the 2pcs in uncut mint sheet :D

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #158 on: December 13, 2012, 09:45:28 PM »
IMO, both NGC graded 2001 D small D coins are genuine.  With further research, this version may not be uncommon inside China.
 
http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=12735493645&ali_trackid=2:mm_14507416_2297358_8935934:1355083423_4k2_1295920960

http://www.shuoqian.net/view-6378183.html

Attached are pictures which will allow you to make a quick check of large and small D.

It is really hard to tell by these pictures if either or both are in fact the small d variety , the lines drawn would possibly indicate such but we would really need better pictures. I would also say that even if these pictures are indeed the sm d variety , I think you would be hard pressed to find a sheet of these in China, from these dealers or anywhere else for that matter. After looking heavily into this I believe this will actually be the most rare of all 10 y silver panda varieties possibly less than 1000 and in the future these will become very highly sought after and very few will appear on the market, and possibly even counter fitted if the prices dictate such a move. I could be totally wrong on this but go ahead and try to find some for sale good luck!

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #159 on: December 13, 2012, 10:04:02 PM »

I think you would be hard pressed to find a sheet of these in China


Really?! I was told 10 sheets of these were sold in ONE transaction. I'm pretty sure that dealer would have more ....


 After looking heavily into this I believe this will actually be the most rare of all 10 y silver panda varieties possibly less than 1000


I'm not surprised that you're believing that .... however, your perception is obviously obscured by your hope (because you're holding a few?) ... it may not (and quite obviously not) be the reality.

Why don't you ask the person from whom you bought your small-D, and ask him to ask his source  .... so on and on ... pretty soon, you may find out someone is hoarding a bunch of these.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #160 on: December 13, 2012, 10:27:37 PM »
It is really hard to tell by these pictures if either or both are in fact the small d variety , the lines drawn would possibly indicate such but we would really need better pictures. I would also say that even if these pictures are indeed the sm d variety , I think you would be hard pressed to find a sheet of these in China, from these dealers or anywhere else for that matter. After looking heavily into this I believe this will actually be the most rare of all 10 y silver panda varieties possibly less than 1000 and in the future these will become very highly sought after and very few will appear on the market, and possibly even counter fitted if the prices dictate such a move. I could be totally wrong on this but go ahead and try to find some for sale good luck!

I am hoping this will be the new Microdate if not a new 2000 mirrored. :)

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #161 on: December 13, 2012, 10:28:35 PM »
Really?! I was told 10 sheets of these were sold in ONE transaction. I'm pretty sure that dealer would have more ....
Really?! and who told you that? was it one transaction??? Check your facts.
I'm not surprised that you're believing that .... however, your perception is obviously obscured by your hope (because you're holding a few?) ... it may not (and quite obviously not) be the reality.
Sure that could be my perception because I am holding a few , and the opposite could be your perception because you do not have any. Where are you getting any information that this is "quite obviously not" the reality ? Show me some sheets for sale in stock I would love to see that.

Why don't you ask the person from whom you bought your small-D, and ask him to ask his source  .... so on and on ... pretty soon, you may find out someone is hoarding a bunch of these. I have and you could be very correct but I dont see any evidence of it as of yet.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #162 on: December 13, 2012, 10:29:52 PM »
I am hoping this will be the new Microdate if not a new 2000 mirrored. :)
I think it will , nice purchase by the way!

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #163 on: December 13, 2012, 10:31:58 PM »
Please no one bite my head off:) if you compare this coin to the 2003 mirror  you saw them popping up all over e bay shortly (within hours) of the news coming out....... this coin so far 2 ,for whatever that is worth ....................

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #164 on: December 13, 2012, 10:49:09 PM »
Right now of the 13 graded and labeled so far 8 are with Silverstar1, 1 will soon be mine and other 4 are in China...
and goodness how many you own joeman ;)