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Offline geoxxx

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #300 on: February 27, 2013, 04:22:12 AM »
oh still low.  In see some small D sold to USA at $950

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #301 on: February 27, 2013, 04:27:09 AM »
OH  sorry, the price is 2000 Mirror, not small D! I have not price for it.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #302 on: February 27, 2013, 04:30:35 AM »
ok thank you   I will watch

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #303 on: February 27, 2013, 04:57:35 AM »
RMB 5000 for OMP

It can vary, I've found a few dealers that seem a little clueless about the small D variety and as result are selling it for way cheaper than they should be.  I had some Small D's graded at 69 that I purchased awhile back in China and I was offering them for $700 so I certainly had obtained them at a very low price (I'd rather not mention the price in public).

For most dealers though I'm seeing around 5000rmb in China (about $800usd) but they are pretty hard to come by.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #304 on: February 27, 2013, 05:36:26 AM »
OK thank you.
I think best place is USA which is payment USD 950

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #305 on: March 09, 2013, 11:57:19 AM »
With more small-D graded, there appears to be two different batches based on the presence or absence of a mint defect mark as pointed by red arrows in the attached picture.

The small-D with the mint mark are discovered in China, Dragondollar's NGC 2782326, radderlee's 3688355, my 2764927 which I bought from Dragondollar.  The two unattributed small-D, 2780136-046, -047, also have the mint mark but I don't know about their pedigree.  The small-D without mint mark are sold to US and France.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #306 on: March 09, 2013, 12:18:01 PM »
Yes, I am, same as SANDAC image.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #307 on: March 09, 2013, 01:32:27 PM »
Indeed, I found all my 熊猫小弟 had a round dot under the 民, including my 70. Is this kind of frosting defect common?

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #308 on: March 09, 2013, 02:04:11 PM »
Small frosting variations are common and won't affect grade but serve as markers to identify different lots of coins.  My thinking is there are two different lots, one has the pedigree jc8..8 described, the other (yours and radderlee) is from a different source.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #309 on: March 09, 2013, 09:55:10 PM »
Is this a large D?   (I think it is)


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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #310 on: March 09, 2013, 10:31:01 PM »
That coin is a Large "D" the easiest way for me to tell the difference is the # of bamboo stalks inside the "D" the small "D" only has 1 full bamboo stalk (the vertical one)inside the "D" the large "D" has 2 (the vertical one and one on an angle) the small "D" is also higher than the pandas belly on the small "D" and lower than the belly on the Large "D" but it is sometimes hard to tell in pictures. I have found the # of bamboo sticks inside the letter "D" is a foolproof option when looking through Ebay listings or other online pictures. They are Very Few and Very Far Apart. I believe that they are next to impossible to find without the seller knowing what they have as there may only be a couple hundred in existence as the NGC registry has not changed in nearly a month. I was one of the last to send one in of the correctly labeled 45 in existance and that was nearly a month ago. Get them while you can as you may not be able to afford them later.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #311 on: March 09, 2013, 10:31:11 PM »
Yes, this is a large D. I found the best way to identify a small D at a glance is to look inside the D. If the bamboos are shaped somewhat like a L, this is a small D. If the bamboos are shaped like a V, like yours, this is a large D.

Edit: madmuley was faster  N14

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #312 on: March 09, 2013, 10:41:22 PM »
I just noticed PGCS has yet to grade a small "D". According to their site they have graded  232 as "Large D". Anyone here have one and  want to be the guinea pig, and submit one to PCGS see how they grade with them? Population of 1 could make a great selling point.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #313 on: March 09, 2013, 10:53:13 PM »
I have one in OMP that I received today via Hong Kong. But I am skeptical that it will grade as MS69 or better as I have one in MS69 and my new arrival has what may be a  small mint mark on the obverse (it is hard to tell if it is on the coin without removing it from the mint packaging) I plan to keep this one for a while and wait to see what the market does. I would love to pick up another to submit to PCGS to see how they grade them yet I would like to have a coin without the "potential issues" that mine may have. I also have noticed that both of mine have had some light toning issues. NCS did a great job on the one I submitted to them on removing the toning but that may be complicated with sending a coin to NCS to have it conserved and then sending it to PCGS to grade it. Yet I don't know if I can resist the temptation to have the first PCGS graded small "D".

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #314 on: March 10, 2013, 01:18:27 PM »
I have a PCGS.....