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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #270 on: February 09, 2013, 03:47:45 AM »
Send a couple in.

If it is significant, we may well recognize it.  Regards.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #271 on: February 09, 2013, 07:43:26 AM »
I will not call them large  or small D, but high  or low D.

Thanks gentlemen. It is much clearer to me now.  For the 500Y those horizontal lines and their relative position to the panda's chin is a quite useful reference.  The variety almost jumps out to my eyes now, even without the red lines drawn in.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #272 on: February 09, 2013, 01:59:02 PM »
Anyone know which was struck at which mint?

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #273 on: February 09, 2013, 02:09:41 PM »
I've spent some time wading through the 18 pages of this thread on the 2001D, and I realized that it may take a while to wrap my mind around all of this in order to identify a recent purchase (see attached).  It occurred to me that there may be a few experts out there who have immersed themselves in the subtleties of this variety, and may be able to tell at a glance what variety my 2001D 500Y coin is.  It seems like a "smaller" D and a "higher" D from what I can tell so far.  Any insights would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Anyone know which was struck at which mint?

The images I posted yesterday of my "high D" 2001D G500Y is in OMP that has Shenzhen Guobao Mint imprinted on the edge.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #274 on: February 09, 2013, 02:45:04 PM »
All my 2001-D Gold that are in OMP are in Shenzhen wrap, both High and Low D.  I have not seen any in any other wrap, except reseals.
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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #275 on: February 09, 2013, 02:52:57 PM »
All 2001-D, silver and gold panda were minted at Shenzhen and 2001, silver and gold panda were minted at Shanghai.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #277 on: February 09, 2013, 08:40:31 PM »
Is this low D?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2001-D-CHINA-PANDA-500-YUAN-SOLID-999-GOLD-1oz-COIN-RARE-/150944896803?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item2325045723

Okay, don't laugh at my inexperience with the technology.  I uploaded the image of the ebay item into photoshop and tried to put some lines on it.  I couldn't figure out how to make them red, but oh well, it should suffice.  It looks like a low D, right?
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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #278 on: February 09, 2013, 08:41:50 PM »
I guess so.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #279 on: February 09, 2013, 08:57:34 PM »
Okay, don't laugh at my inexperience with the technology.  I uploaded the image of the ebay item into photoshop and tried to put some lines on it.  I couldn't figure out how to make them red, but oh well, it should suffice.  It looks like a low D, right?


OK, I failed Photoshop proficiency.  I can't figure out how to draw a line instead of a rectangle, or how to make it red.  Do you pros have a thread on how you do the image modification somewhere.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #280 on: February 09, 2013, 08:57:43 PM »
That is the exact picture I used to compile a collage of 2001D as posted here:
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=2193.msg43487#msg43487

It is a Low D.

Ha! I just noticed it is "Sold"!  Well, whoever bought it please post high-rez picture.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #281 on: February 09, 2013, 09:03:55 PM »
OK, I failed Photoshop proficiency.  I can't figure out how to draw a line instead of a rectangle, or how to make it red.  Do you pros have a thread on how you do the image modification somewhere.
Photoshop is notoriously difficult to use.  I myself use Photoshop Element 10.  It is slightly easier to use, but I would'nt call it "user friendly" by any mean.  If you can read the .psd file, I can upload my 2001D photoshop design file and feel free to play with it anyway you like.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #282 on: February 09, 2013, 10:01:40 PM »
When reviewing poconopenn's high and low D photos, other than the location of the 'D', there are two more details that I noticed.

1. The thickness of the denomination - The '500' is thicker on the high D.
2. The low D type has extra white fur on the panda's neck.

Here they are side by side.

For me, it is very easy to determine which is which in first look by looking for the extra white fur.
« Last Edit: February 09, 2013, 10:24:23 PM by Gilmore »

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #283 on: February 09, 2013, 10:31:49 PM »
I have a nagging feeling someone had already posted these varieties.  If so, I apologize.

Perhaps this is a good time to present a minor variety of 2001D G20Y:  The first picture has eyes and the 2nd picture has "no eyes".  Also notice the shape of mouth are different.  I have 13 G20Y in my database, the ratio of "eyes" to "no eyes" are 9 to 4.



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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #284 on: February 09, 2013, 10:51:22 PM »
SANDAC,
Another type of 'no eyes'? The panda's rear side appears to be more complete.
http://www.zhaoonline.com/zhongguodangdaijinyinbi/1832392.shtml
« Last Edit: February 09, 2013, 11:07:03 PM by Gilmore »