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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #180 on: December 14, 2012, 09:11:22 PM »
I am interested in different varieties as well and I know of 2 others i have been thinking of for a while. Care to share any of these you have found? are they major difference such as this sm d , mirror rim, sm vs lg date type thing ? or minor difference such as pointed shoulder , slight fur tufts on ear ect. I would like to hear more about it.
They are major varieties like, large date, number without serif, or date at different location.  The ones I have not published are smaller coins where NGC photo is just not good enough to confirm, so I'm looking to buy them to take detailed photo.  They are not Panda, BTW.  You've already experienced firsthand the cross-examination when a new variety is introduced, so I'll do my homework first before publishing them.  I will publish the findings first here on CCF.  We are a tough crowd, if it can survive the cross examination, it is real.

You can read my recent variety posts on 1987 5oz panda (http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=4200.msg42848#msg42848), about 1990 Dragon & Phoenix (http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=6886.0), and for a fun minor frosting varieties, the 1993 Peacock (http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=6848.msg42170#msg42170).

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #181 on: December 14, 2012, 09:12:27 PM »
I continue to look for small D in existing NGC cert numbers and was unsuccessful.  I’m monitoring the weekly population report.  If they increase in small units of 1 or 2, then that’ll indicate collectors resubmit from their existing holdings.  If they increase in unit of 5, 10, or multiple of 10, then that’s dealer submission probably due to discovery of large hoard.  At this point, My inability to find small D in existing NGC population, and most of the known small D were in sheets of 10 suggests the small D are due to a single hoard being discovered recently and have not broken into individual coins.  That’s my working thesis, time will tell.
I agree with everything you are saying here. I have checked with my source and they have done the same ect. so there could be 1 or a few sources with these but knowone is finding any or if they are they are not saying anything.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #182 on: December 14, 2012, 09:27:00 PM »
They are major varieties like, large date, number without serif, or date at different location.  The ones I have not published are smaller coins where NGC photo is just not good enough to confirm, so I'm looking to buy them to take detailed photo.  They are not Panda, BTW.  You've already experienced firsthand the cross-examination when a new variety is introduced, so I'll do my homework first before publishing them.  I will publish the findings first here on CCF.  We are a tough crowd, if it can survive the cross examination, it is real.

You can read my recent variety posts on 1987 5oz panda (http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=4200.msg42848#msg42848), about 1990 Dragon & Phoenix (http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=6886.0), and for a fun minor frosting varieties, the 1993 Peacock (http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=6848.msg42170#msg42170).

This is very interesting , I can understand why you would want to get everything in order before you post your results , I look forward to see what you come up with.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #183 on: December 14, 2012, 09:32:50 PM »
Now that I am pretty convinced this 2001 sm d panda is very rare variety, I am really curious as to why they would mint this. My only guesses would be maybe they minted a 1000 or less and had a problem with the die , or they minted these and someone decided a larger d would be better or maybe a special order by a general or someone with political influence Or ??just speculating here but I dont understand why they would mint so few of these . anyone else have any ideas to add?

I also see I now have a negative karma rating , I really do not know what this is for , is that what you get for participating on this forum in a constructive way?? What a joke!!

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #184 on: December 14, 2012, 09:43:56 PM »
Same here. I was plus 1 Karma. Now Im at zero. How do you smite someone here anyway? :001_tt2:

This is supposed to be a kind welcoming and friendly forum but I am beginning to think otherwise.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #185 on: December 14, 2012, 10:11:08 PM »
dont feel bad boys I am   minus 1000000000000000000000 and counting:)......................

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #186 on: December 14, 2012, 10:12:52 PM »
dont feel bad boys I am   minus 1000000000000000000000 and counting:)......................

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #187 on: December 14, 2012, 10:50:17 PM »
I didnt really come here to talk about this but it is strange, I dont think any of us have broken the rules or posted anything inappropriate,   the only common thing I can see with the 3 of us with the bad karma is we all have (or have on the way) the 2001 small d pandas and we all post on silver stackers , so either some here are extremely childish or extremely jealous or both. It is too bad this could be a really great forum on the discussion on Chinese coins but it appears some here want to hide behind their keyboard and make it about smiting new members with valuable input and opinions, hopefully as adults we can grow out of this sort of thing and focus on what what we are really all here for which is to share opinions and observations ,and gain a better knowledge on Chinese coins.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #188 on: December 14, 2012, 10:53:58 PM »
i applauded you and fever:)

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #189 on: December 14, 2012, 11:16:43 PM »
I think that i need 50 posts before i can return the favour.Thanks Joe.

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #190 on: December 15, 2012, 12:08:48 AM »
Whew, Ok back to good karma , what the.. just happened ? anyway getting back to the subject any opinions on the 2001D silver panda ?

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #191 on: December 15, 2012, 12:44:36 AM »
Plus one karma to you silverfever.
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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #192 on: December 15, 2012, 01:13:50 AM »
This is weird, I gave a round of applause to the people concerned, but seems like joeman is back to -10 from -9. Somebody having fun with the karma system?

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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #193 on: December 15, 2012, 04:04:03 AM »
I think there is a anti Silverstackers sentiment on this forum. Even Thor is at -1.
Btw thanks dragondollar and Thor. :thumbup:
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Re: 2001"D" Silver Panda-A Sleeper??
« Reply #194 on: December 15, 2012, 06:46:26 AM »
karma..........:) no one bestows it on you or takes it away:) so no worries
back to the coins:)
$571  for the conserved ms69 on the fee bay  200861492032   ...........will be interesting to see where it lands:)