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2nd opinions on a 1997 bimetallic Panda error
« on: May 10, 2018, 07:02:44 PM »
Hello,
anyone think the value of this coin increases (or decreases) based on this specific error designation?

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Re: 2nd opinions on a 1997 bimetallic Panda error
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2018, 10:04:50 PM »
for mcc, not many people appreciate mint error coin.

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Re: 2nd opinions on a 1997 bimetallic Panda error
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2018, 07:21:30 AM »
I agree but this market is still semi immature.     In time Mint Errors should be a priority.....

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Re: 2nd opinions on a 1997 bimetallic Panda error
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2018, 08:12:46 AM »
Why does this offset center clearly show on one side of the coin and not on the other side?

Many of the bimetallic coins (panda or unicorn) have centers which are offset a little.  It is unusual to see a significant offset with an irregular shaped gold center.

Hmmmm!

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Re: 2nd opinions on a 1997 bimetallic Panda error
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2018, 08:56:20 AM »
if the gold center is an insert with an outer silver ring....how does the silver lettering show thru.  this is confusing. anyone know how China produces their bimetallic coins?

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Re: 2nd opinions on a 1997 bimetallic Panda error
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2018, 09:33:14 AM »
The gold portion is obviously either "machine-painted" or plated. The coin moved off-center causing the misalignment during the gold-color application.

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Re: 2nd opinions on a 1997 bimetallic Panda error
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2018, 09:45:58 AM »
I always believed, and as stated on the coin the gold is real gold and not plating.  As an alternative to consider are the 2002 Silver anniversary kilo has gold plated images of coins, but this is not the case with the bimetallic.

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Re: 2nd opinions on a 1997 bimetallic Panda error
« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2018, 06:21:51 PM »
I read a few articles online about bimetal coins.  Apparently, mints make an outer silver planchet with a hole in the center and an inner gold circular planchet.  The gold planchet has groves on the edge.  The two pieces are pushed together and struck, forcing metal from the outer silver ring into the groves on the edge of the gold planchet, while the design is being struck on both flat surfaces of the combined planchets.  This keeps the pieces in alignment and stops future rotation and misalignment of the design on both sides.  A sharp knock may cause the inner gold piece to be dislodged from the outer silver ring.  Still, none of this information explains the error shown 1997 bimetal panda.

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Re: 2nd opinions on a 1997 bimetallic Panda error
« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2018, 07:14:22 PM »
The gold portion is obviously either "machine-painted" or plated. The coin moved off-center causing the misalignment during the gold-color application.

I have watched bimetallic medals being struck on a couple of occasions. Prior to striking there is a tray, or group, of collars and a separate tray of gold blanks. The central disc is gold as marked. It's an interesting phenomenon how the gold spreads along the surface under pressure. I've heard that there is a relatively new technique that prevents this.

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