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1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« on: April 21, 2018, 05:09:26 AM »
Dear forum!

Please help with this coins. Is it a original or fake? Possible to say something about it?

How i know it should be only in proof?

Best regards

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Re: 1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« Reply #1 on: April 21, 2018, 05:57:34 PM »
will be happy for any opinion :)

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Re: 1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« Reply #2 on: April 21, 2018, 06:24:39 PM »
For me they doesnt look real. The letters look fat and not enough details. There are alot of fakes.

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Re: 1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« Reply #3 on: April 21, 2018, 10:03:05 PM »
This is from Mr. Sun Keqin's book on Chinese circulating coins:
7,1986年,无普币,只有套币,为精制币。
7. 1986: no business strikes for circulation; only coin sets in proof strikes.

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Re: 1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2018, 12:09:39 AM »
I have 1-2 of his books available for $25 plus shipping.  They were personally autographed at the Long Beach show.

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Re: 1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2018, 05:13:29 PM »
They look like PROOF, but better pictures  are needed to be sure.
I think grading in this case might help and in my opinion it is worth to give a try.


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Re: 1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2018, 09:18:24 PM »
I saw fake 1982, 1984, 1985 and 1986 proof coins listed at eBay in a nice PBOC package during last few months.

Attached is the similar package for 5 key date fake fen coins. I do not know if this PBOC box is actual product of PBOC, but the coins inside are definitely fake.

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Re: 1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2018, 11:29:01 AM »
Thanks for opinions.

I bought it. When i will get parcel - will make a photo.

Still think that it is 95/5 that fake...

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Re: 1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2018, 03:05:00 PM »
Low grade (PF details) is about $3,000 for 1 Jiao and $4,500 for 5 Jiao at PF65.

http://www.coin001.com/hack.php?H_name=auction&skip=1&skip=1&action=detail&auction_status=3&aid=82196

http://www.coin001.com/hack.php?H_name=auction&skip=1&skip=1&action=detail&auction_status=3&aid=82197

Usually, 1986 Jiao coins from China Mint original package are graded about 65 and better.


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Re: 1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« Reply #9 on: May 04, 2018, 09:31:25 AM »
Hello!

I got it and made a photo. With 1 and 5 1986 was 2 1980.

Not look like that it is proof.

If it is fake - it should be many in web? I did not find photos of fakes 1986...


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Re: 1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« Reply #10 on: May 04, 2018, 09:34:12 AM »
 N39 N39

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Re: 1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2018, 09:42:12 AM »
 N42 N42

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Re: 1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2018, 09:50:54 AM »
 N40 N40

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Re: 1 and 5 Jiao 1986
« Reply #13 on: May 04, 2018, 02:55:23 PM »
Here is fake 1986 set currently listed at eBay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1986Year-China-Issue-Gift-Money-Refined-Coin-Collectable-Money-Circulating-Set/322848823684?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

Pictures of genuine coins are attached for comparison. Please note that striations in the field are typical for these two coins.