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Offline jinsun2000

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Red spots on gold coin
« on: April 14, 2018, 01:57:54 PM »
Hi,  I have a couple of red spots on an 1997 1/4 NGC 69 panda.  Does anyone know if I can send the coin to NGC/NCS to get removed
and reholder?  Also would it come back as the same grade or will they have to regrade it.

TIA

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Re: Red spots on gold coin
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2018, 02:08:18 PM »
Forgot to add a picture.

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Re: Red spots on gold coin
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2018, 07:22:06 PM »
no need to remove red spot

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Re: Red spots on gold coin
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2018, 07:29:40 PM »
Hi,  I have a couple of red spots on an 1997 1/4 NGC 69 panda.  Does anyone know if I can send the coin to NGC/NCS to get removed
and reholder?  Also would it come back as the same grade or will they have to regrade it.

TIA
Yes few red spot coins on gold sent to ngc/ncs were removed and reholdered in ms69
must remove red spots while only on surface before it degrades coin. Then proper storage should never happen again. bought cheap because of spots & came right off and never reappeared

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Re: Red spots on gold coin
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2018, 07:33:21 PM »
Thank you panda&GDG

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Re: Red spots on gold coin
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2018, 08:20:44 PM »
Yes few red spot coins on gold sent to ngc/ncs were removed and reholdered in ms69
must remove red spots while only on surface before it degrades coin. Then proper storage should never happen again. bought cheap because of spots & came right off and never reappeared


Long time, GDG.  Welcome back.

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Re: Red spots on gold coin
« Reply #6 on: April 15, 2018, 04:24:47 AM »
I do not believe that red spots will degrade the surface of the coin. You don't have to worry about damage to the coin, simply eye appeal issues. But yes, you can send the coin into NGC and NCS and they will remove the spot for you and re holder it. With 99% likelihood you will get the same grade as what was previously on the slab.

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Re: Red spots on gold coin
« Reply #7 on: April 15, 2018, 07:23:54 AM »
You are not likely to get the best price for your coin if you sell as is instead of after conservation. Even if you are not selling conservation reassures you of the grade of the coin you have in your collection.

Another important aspect is storage of the coin slab in optimal environmental conditions after conservation and re-slabbing. There is a suggestion that storage in a cool environment in pre-treated archival bags or boxes, or placing “tarnish strips” in closable containers of coins could slow down or prevent surface deterioration of those coins whether in OMP or TPG slabs. This is something for you to consider and research if you are not already aware of such.
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Re: Red spots on gold coin
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2018, 11:11:15 AM »
I do not believe that red spots will degrade the surface of the coin. You don't have to worry about damage to the coin, simply eye appeal issues. But yes, you can send the coin into NGC and NCS and they will remove the spot for you and re holder it. With 99% likelihood you will get the same grade as what was previously on the slab.

I hope you're right, Mirkkanen. I have a coin that has a red spot as well, and I think it developed after I first got it since I didn't notice it at all after a close inspection. I feel kind of relieved after reading this.

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Re: Red spots on gold coin
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2018, 11:26:17 AM »
All you need to do is simply take a flame to the surface of the coin and the red spot will burn right off immediately, without damaging the coin. If a coin is sealed within plastic packaging, of course, you will not want to take a flame to it. This is what NCS does. It's not rocket science.

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Re: Red spots on gold coin
« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2018, 03:33:29 PM »
do red spots really even affect the grade?
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Re: Red spots on gold coin
« Reply #11 on: May 31, 2018, 03:34:19 PM »
If graders feel they reduce eye appeal, yes, I believe so.

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Re: Red spots on gold coin
« Reply #12 on: May 31, 2018, 03:48:30 PM »
So is grading really just arbitrary depending on the grader? Or are there clear standards?
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Re: Red spots on gold coin
« Reply #13 on: June 03, 2018, 12:07:34 AM »
So is grading really just arbitrary depending on the grader? Or are there clear standards?

yes to both