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Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« on: December 08, 2017, 03:45:02 PM »
I wrote before about the possibility of Gold breaking the $1000. I was wrong on the timing or just flat wrong. Since then Gold moved sideways at best.

It appears to me that this might be happening as we speak. Gold & Silver look very heavy here. For this scenario to happen, we need Gold to break $1050 before end of year. This will be a very substantial drop in a short period of time. Breaking the $1000 level will come sometime next year. It already looks like a lot of Gold & silver bugs are heading to bitcoin. This loss of faith is necessary for this market to finally bottom.

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2017, 05:47:53 PM »
I can not help but share this. I can not attest to its authenticity. It came from the Coin Compendium Forum  N16:

Quote from: Y7ASyxC on 2017 Dec 06, 11:16:02 am

Where is badon?

Sold all his coins for bitcoin, then cashed out and is sipping cocktails on his private island ;p


I call this one of the early signs of the market bottoming  N16

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2017, 11:06:10 PM »
It looks like the tax bill could be passed this week. I think gold will react very negatively once it passes! Dow 40,000 and gold $1000!

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2017, 12:26:13 AM »
I don't think tax bill will affect gold.  Bitcoin and its cousins will.  For bitcoin to get as big as gold market it only needs to go up by another factor of 20x, which may only take another year if it repeats its 2017 performance of 24x.

Was talking with former gold panda king about bitcoins today, he was #1 registery gold panda man prior to 2008, I bought him out in spring of 2008.  He went all in on bitcoin under 2000 just a few months ago and has made multiples more money in a few months than is panda collection did from 2004-2008.   He is not planning to sell until it goes up another 5x. 

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2017, 08:59:38 AM »
I was just reading an article at NGC newsletter and guess what? it was about bitcoins as well.
It a bit frustrating in my case, as in 2010 -2011 I was doing research on it when the price was fluctuating between 20-50 bucks and I was considering buying about 20  bitcoins at that time. I had my first gains from coins at that time. I have just sold 10 2 euro Grace Kelly coins that I bought in 2008 for 300 euro and sold them when the price went to 1000 euro. That was just before Greece issue and I was happy that I sold Grace Kelly in time. I was looking for some ten bags and was expecting that bitcoin might go up to 500, but the volatility of it made me cautious.
Now, it is aa bit frustrating, as it was once in a lifetime opportunity and there are slight chances something like that might appear again.
And then was Ethereum two years ago. I just liked the name and also studied it a bit.
But again I did not buy a single one...

The dark side is that bitcoin is more for off-shore money and criminal money, especially when the rules are stricter now, and I do not want put my hard earned money into this money laundering  machine.

I only hope that this phenomenon can push down  the fees of card payments and paypal.

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2017, 10:34:00 AM »
I hope it changes PayPal also

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2017, 11:57:01 AM »
100,000 US accounts are being added every day, each of those accounts requires full ID verification.  Before it was dark web tool, now bitcoin is becoming a mainstreet tool. 

ICO Volume - This an indication of investment in the future
https://dms.licdn.com/playback/C4E00AQGShBV3QY74YA/9080d448426344d5a55ccf312498705a/feedshare-mp4_500/1479932728445-v0ch3x?e=1513787486&v=alpha&t=Ynver3LlDoIhs4Lkj8UkFRcme5Hk8RgJ60vdj9LM68Q

Bitcoin Adoption - attached
 
Of course investing in this opportunity now requires a lot more skill as the risk for downside is comparable to upside. 

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2017, 12:03:51 PM »
I do not think rise of bitcoin is the reason for gold's decline. Bitcoin price rise is a symptom of the problem. It is drawing a lot of the gold crowd into it until a spectacular and catastrophic decline in bitcoin price happens (it has to happen sooner or later). Peak of bitcoin price will probably mark the low of gold. Tax bill will be very Dollar positive and therefore a decline in Gold. 2018 is going to be very very interesting to say the least.

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2017, 12:44:11 PM »
For the last 5 months I have been helping collectors sell their pandas to buy bitcoins.  Their only reason to sell was to invest in bitcoins.  I only deal in small niche, imagine all the US coin holders that are doing the same thing.  Strong dollar is a good argument, but I also expect debt levels in the US to increase due infrastructure package which will hurt dollar, it could be neutral year for the dollar.

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2017, 02:24:37 PM »
100,000 US accounts are being added every day, each of those accounts requires full ID verification.  Before it was dark web tool, now bitcoin is becoming a mainstreet tool. 

ICO Volume - This an indication of investment in the future
https://dms.licdn.com/playback/C4E00AQGShBV3QY74YA/9080d448426344d5a55ccf312498705a/feedshare-mp4_500/1479932728445-v0ch3x?e=1513787486&v=alpha&t=Ynver3LlDoIhs4Lkj8UkFRcme5Hk8RgJ60vdj9LM68Q

Bitcoin Adoption - attached
 
Of course investing in this opportunity now requires a lot more skill as the risk for downside is comparable to upside. 
That is a good example of a technology adoption.
IMHO, much more people are investing into bitcoin than using it for payments.
And the steep growth just shows how much it will decline.
I am wondering  how does the pizzaola man feels like right now. the first transaction was 10 000 bitcoins for one pizza delivery. haha.
There has to come a new payment methods, but it won`t be blockchain technology, Can you imagine in e-technology and e-democracy age, payment to proceed for hours, days or even weeks? Or that  there are fees to speed up the process...
That`s a nonsense.
I am not a sceptical, I just regret that I did not catch that  wave.
And when all digest talk about bitcoin it is high time to sell. I will surely try some shorts on it in a half a year in case it will be still worth it.

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2017, 03:45:08 PM »
Block chain is the future of payments.  Bitcoin is just the brand name that media promotes, there many others based on block chain that will be the future of payment processing.  The knowledge needed to navigate where to invest takes a lot of research and time.  I wish it was as easy as gold panda 1/2 investing.

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #11 on: December 20, 2017, 02:26:12 AM »
Block chain is the future of payments.  Bitcoin is just the brand name that media promotes, there many others based on block chain that will be the future of payment processing.  The knowledge needed to navigate where to invest takes a lot of research and time.  I wish it was as easy as gold panda 1/2 investing.
Yes, thats my opinion too.

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2017, 07:22:07 AM »
jsmineset   "Crypto traders spooked after Korean bitcoin exchange files for bankruptcy"..........

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #14 on: December 20, 2017, 10:54:16 PM »
20-40% of all cryptocurrencies have either been stolen (hacked) or are lost forever (owner lost the keys).  Another 20-40% are locked up in long term owners hands.  This why they are so volatile, the float on them is tiny and small changes in demand can move them very quickly.  This is exactly how the internet companies of late 1990s traded, for those that traded those, the crytos are dejavu and opportunity abounds for those that remember the patterns.  For those that are seeing this for the first time, pay attention and learn how the cycle plays out and in 10-20 years another opportunity will surface and you will be ready.

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2017, 01:15:09 AM »
Easy come, easy go.  This a common tale, similar to kids putting honus wagner or mickey mantle rookie cards in bicycle wheel. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/12/20/man-lost-127-million-worth-of-bitcoins-and-city-wont-let-him-look.html

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #16 on: December 22, 2017, 01:46:11 PM »
2017 sure is the year of crptocurrency. I started paying real attention to it in June, when Bitcoin price reached $3,000 briefy. After having studied block technology thoroughly, I decided to buy some Etherum, Bitcoin’s close cousin, just to get a hands on experience on what cryptocurrency is all about and how to mange and store the coins.

Back then, Etherum seems to be having even better future than Bitcoin, for it is smart contract programable. Price was around $200 after a peak of $400. The greatest risk about buying and selling cryptocurrency, is that the market and exchanges are unregulated. Coinbase, based in San Francisco, which I opened an account with, was and may still is overwhelmed by the skyrocking growth of buisness. Their system was not very stable and after deposited cash into my account and placed a limit order on their GDAX platiform, my open limit order just disappeared from my account in about 10 days. The only way to contact customer service was email, and mine was in queue for over 5 weeks. When you place a limit order the total dollar amount if it gets filled is deducted and withheld from your cash balance right away. So in 5 weeks there was nothing I can do but wait. After my problem was addressed and the limit order reappeared, I cancelled it to free up the fund and withdrew all cash out of my account. I was done with trying to buy Etherum.

Then I researched and picked 5 block chain startup companies, and started watching their stocks. Most were penny stocks trading as low as a penny. A thousand dollars can buy a hundred thousand shares. I bought into one at the price of $.015 a share, and in 10 trading days watched it shot up to $.10, that is amazing in percentage terms. I sold half and decided to keep another half for the long term, betting on this company’s future. One does not have to trade real cryptocurrency, playing block chain start ups can be very profitable too. They shoot up and down with the price movement of Bitcoin.

Thought I share my expereince here with you all.  Happy holidays!

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Re: Gold & Silver Prices Breaking 2015 Lows
« Reply #17 on: December 22, 2017, 02:02:43 PM »
Thanks Baron, little to risky for me, but love reading about it. Happy Holidays