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the two faces of the 1993 1 oz Gold Sun Yat Sen Proof Coin
« on: June 28, 2017, 11:05:57 AM »
both of the following coins have an identical serial number, yet they are different.

face #1: http://www.zhaoonline.com/zhongguodangdaijinyinbi/2035091.shtml

face #2: http://www.zhaoonline.com/zhongguodangdaijinyinbi/1418371.shtml

when you look up the serial on NGC, https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/2771161-004/68/ , which one do you think it is?

Is one of the coins really fake?

I see more sales of both types. Did a high end counterfeit enter the market or are there two faces to Mr. Sun but one was put into a counterfeit holder?

This use the serial number 2771161-004 does tell us something is strange.

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Re: the two faces of the 1993 1 oz Gold Sun Yat Sen Proof Coin
« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2017, 11:28:06 AM »
Rotation position of coin obverse and reverse faces in holder and printed coin information over label look identical. I am unfamiliar with this sales web site. Could it just be a reposted advertisement with a photograph using different lighting angle? An otherwise duplicate or fake coin and slab would require identical pairing of coin and label with printed information.

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Re: the two faces of the 1993 1 oz Gold Sun Yat Sen Proof Coin
« Reply #2 on: July 01, 2017, 02:46:42 PM »
It is the same one that went on auction twice.

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Re: the two faces of the 1993 1 oz Gold Sun Yat Sen Proof Coin
« Reply #3 on: July 01, 2017, 03:36:00 PM »
Rotation position of coin obverse and reverse faces in holder and printed coin information over label look identical. I am unfamiliar with this sales web site. Could it just be a reposted advertisement with a photograph using different lighting angle? An otherwise duplicate or fake coin and slab would require identical pairing of coin and label with printed information.

Agreed. It is the lighting angle. The pictures in both auctions and NGC website shown the same rubbed spot at the tip of the nose.

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Re: the two faces of the 1993 1 oz Gold Sun Yat Sen Proof Coin
« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2017, 03:07:10 PM »
Look the same