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please help identify
« on: November 20, 2016, 07:54:26 AM »
  N20   hello thank you for accepting me in this forum , i want to know what is this coin worth ? it weighs 40 gr and diameter 51 mm, thank you

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2016, 09:42:22 AM »
Welcome to CCF!
Hero member fwang2450 is the expert on this coin.  Hopefully he'll come on shortly to answer all your questions.  I can tell you what little I know of it:  It is Sino-British Friendship coin, also known as the "Horse Treading on a Swallow" medal.  You can search CCF with these keywords for additional discussions.

fwang2450 has also written an article about it on his blog: http://modern-chinese-numismatic-info.blogspot.com/2014/04/evidence-of-official-sanctioning-of.html

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2016, 03:12:38 PM »
hello thank you for your response and for your informations , I will wait also as you said for the expert fwang2450 for more details :001_smile:

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2016, 07:59:09 PM »
Is it silver?   Brass?....

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #4 on: November 21, 2016, 04:24:55 AM »
oh sorry I don't know how can we know which metal is it ? N20

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #5 on: November 21, 2016, 06:58:23 PM »
It looks like brass. The price range would be around $150.

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2016, 02:00:04 AM »
HI I was waiting for your expert response and I thank you and thank all the members who gave me answers to my interrogations  .You say it is brass because  the edge doesn't contain the text "TK&S" ?

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2016, 02:24:16 AM »
HI I was waiting for your expert response and I thank you and thank all the members who gave me answers to my interrogations  .You say it is brass because  the edge doesn't contain the text "TK&S" ?
Yes, and also because the silver one has a different color.

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2016, 02:31:24 AM »
yes and it can't be either brass also because there is nothing engraved on the edge  ?

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2016, 03:36:26 AM »
bronze and silver

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2016, 03:51:19 AM »
thank you but fwang told me that it cannot be silver because the edge of the medal doesn't contain the text "TK&S" and is it the same for  bronze , I mean if it were bronze must the medal has the text TK&S" engraved on the edge ? thank you

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2016, 04:24:41 AM »
Bronze, brass, copper.  All depends on who you ask.  In general on this medal, they all referred to the same.

If I recalled, the silver has a series # (such as "213", "259", ...) on the rim in addition to "TK&S".  Not 100% recalled.

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2016, 05:39:07 AM »
By my question I wanted to eliminate that  my medal is in bronze , if you tell me that a medal in bronze like that must have  letters or signs or numbers written on its edge , I will say that my medal is not in bronze as there is nothing engraved on its edge. I hope I explained well what I want to know ;)

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2016, 11:19:49 PM »
NGC 69RB of this medal

https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/3877773-015/

Silver version has TK&S engraved on the edge, not copper version.

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Re: please help identify
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2016, 03:34:11 AM »
HI thank you then I resume that only silver coins have something engraved on the edge of the medal , I hope I 'm right . Then my question is  how can we identify a brass coin from a bronze coin ? :blink:   thanks