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Offline dennisma77

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ncs candidate recommendation
« on: September 29, 2016, 01:54:22 PM »
Hi Everyone,

I got email from NGC saying a few of my coins might be good NCS candidate.  Does that mean these coins have good chance to get graded 1-2 point higher if ask them to proceed with NCS conservation?

Thanks
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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2016, 02:32:07 PM »
hmmmmmmmmmmm   normally you would think so  ......2 points higher i doubt it ,I will share with  you a personal experience, I had a 1 oz platinum unicorn  1996 I believe the coin was very nice ,pretty expensive coin 4000-6000 depending upon grade ,,sent it in comes back pf68  with the same NCS do you want to proceed with NCS good candidate proposal ....with this coin of course no brainer  it is 1000 to 1500 difference between 68 and 69      IT CAME BACK PF68

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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2016, 03:23:37 PM »
Was the grade 68 prior to conservation?

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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2016, 03:50:41 PM »
hmmmmmmmmmmm   normally you would think so  ......2 points higher i doubt it ,I will share with  you a personal experience, I had a 1 oz platinum unicorn  1996 I believe the coin was very nice ,pretty expensive coin 4000-6000 depending upon grade ,,sent it in comes back pf68  with the same NCS do you want to proceed with NCS good candidate proposal ....with this coin of course no brainer  it is 1000 to 1500 difference between 68 and 69      IT CAME BACK PF68

Was your coin 68 prior to conservation?  They usually tell you the current grade with the ncs candidate recommendation.

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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2016, 03:52:06 PM »
yes  they will tell you what the cuurent grade is but will not guarantee an upgrade with conservation  ,,it is kinda implied:) or at least you get the feeling that is what they are trying to tell you

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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #5 on: September 29, 2016, 03:52:50 PM »
Was the grade 68 prior to conservation?

yes and it stayed the same

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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #6 on: September 29, 2016, 03:57:29 PM »
I had a Mao 1993 100Y Gold Coin.
Ive choosed NCS, but they have forget it to conservation.
NGC have write to me, its a NCS candidate...  :001_rolleyes: The coin gets a PFUC67.
Ive resend it with NCS and it gets a PFUC69  :001_tt1:

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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2016, 04:02:25 PM »
I had a Mao 1993 100Y Gold Coin.
Ive choosed NCS, but they have forget it to conservation.
NGC have write to me, its a NCS candidate...  :001_rolleyes: The coin gets a PFUC67.
Ive resend it with NCS and it gets a PFUC69  :001_tt1:

Probably because they removed the copper spots

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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2016, 04:05:48 PM »
Probably because they removed the copper spots


 lol   LOVE IT   you might be right but golden lord  could have removed them 100 years from now and h would have got a 69   copper spots are not damaging:)

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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2016, 04:07:36 PM »
No, they have removed a fingerprint. Because of this ive choosed before NCS.

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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2016, 04:43:27 PM »
Apart from the possibility of a grade upgrade after conservation another benefit (depending on the causative factor) is to limit further coin surface deterioration from things like PVC damage.

I remember NGC making a similar recommendation to me about 12 years ago for PVC damage on one of my gold coins then.

I had a similar recommendation for conservation some months ago due to "residue" on an antique silver coin. Following that it graded PF68 which was great as NGC was still being stingy with their grading then.

It is not my impression that they make such recommendations "too" often.

I would suggest trusting their professionalism but you are free to seek a second opinion from PCGS but PCGS does not "like" conservation anyway!
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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #11 on: September 29, 2016, 05:48:18 PM »
I recently had NGC ask me if I wanted 2 large silver medals from  1990 and 1989 to have conservation.
They were already graded by them then at PF68 and PF69.
I agreed and within a week I was notified that the medals graded out both PF69.
Pleasant experience on that transaction.

Move fast, could be a window of good times.

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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #12 on: September 29, 2016, 08:13:45 PM »
Apart from the possibility of a grade upgrade after conservation another benefit (depending on the causative factor) is to limit further coin surface deterioration from things like PVC damage.

I remember NGC making a similar recommendation to me about 12 years ago for PVC damage on one of my gold coins then.

I had a similar recommendation for conservation some months ago due to "residue" on an antique silver coin. Following that it graded PF68 which was great as NGC was still being stingy with their grading then.

It is not my impression that they make such recommendations "too" often.

I would suggest trusting their professionalism but you are free to seek a second opinion from PCGS but PCGS does not "like" conservation anyway!

I agree I had a coin that was not upgraded but it was a fairly high value coin and it came back beautiful.. I would suggest to always consider the risk reward .. I might not jump and do it on something like a 2011 silver panda the additional expense might not be worth it ,but in general like KOT I think it isn't a bad idea.. I can tell you I have graded probably a couple of hundred coins this year and I believe I have only been  asked  if I would like to NCS 3 times.So I certainly do not think it is a money grab.  and an upgrade is always a nice surprise:)

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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #13 on: September 29, 2016, 11:08:18 PM »
i hope my coins all get upgraded.... :)

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Re: ncs candidate recommendation
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2016, 03:20:25 PM »
Could you explain the process how NCS asked you if you wanted a conservation ?
Did you submitted your coins for grading only (without asking any NCS service) and NCS contacted you spontaneously ?
Or did you submitted your coins through NCS on the submission form ?