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Offline Obsidian

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1995 1 oz proof gold panda - fake?
« on: June 02, 2016, 12:28:30 PM »
What do you guys think on this one?  I assume it's a fake?  Seller looks rather questionable also.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=152109485350

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Re: 1995 1 oz proof gold panda - fake?
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2016, 02:00:34 PM »
Coin looks real. Seller  N13? Not sure...

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Re: 1995 1 oz proof gold panda - fake?
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2016, 02:06:42 PM »
I would stay clear of that one
Seller have no feedback last 12 months

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Re: 1995 1 oz proof gold panda - fake?
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2016, 02:34:01 PM »
To me the coin doesn't seem to have enough detail and fur looks way to course.  It could just be a bad picture but it seems like a bad fake to me.  I am certainly no expert but the seller makes me even more skeptical of the coin.

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Re: 1995 1 oz proof gold panda - fake?
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2016, 02:56:20 PM »
It is genuine in Shenyang OMP. The feedback of this seller is less than desirable. Apparently, the seller was not active for quite a long time, so that his/her 2 neutral and 1 negative feedbacks will not show up in the current feedback page.

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Re: 1995 1 oz proof gold panda - fake?
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2016, 03:16:55 PM »
The coin looks authentic. The seller .... well, that's another story.  N32 N33  One thing I learned from underbidder (a.k.a. hippanda) - if it's too good to be true, it ain't true. Too many red flags: poconopenn pointed out a few, and the seller has been inactive for quite some time, the account could have been hijacked. A one-ounce 1995 proof gold panda could fetch 5-figures $$$, and this guy starts $1 ??!! Nah ...   :thumbdown:

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Re: 1995 1 oz proof gold panda - fake?
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2016, 03:25:45 PM »
Last year, in Germany, some unactive accounts have been stolen and offered for sale some pretty nice Panda coins/medals during short auctions.
Pictured items were genuine but were pictured only.
Of course, in these cases, only payment by bank transfer was available.
These stolen accounts have been detected by eBay... but after the end of the auctions.

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Re: 1995 1 oz proof gold panda - fake?
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2016, 03:39:23 PM »
... starts $1 ...

Got it.  Start higher when selling a fake  :lol:

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Re: 1995 1 oz proof gold panda - fake?
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2016, 04:39:00 PM »
Hey he states that the capsule is defective so it must be all on the up.

Maybe its been resealed?

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Re: 1995 1 oz proof gold panda - fake?
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2016, 06:05:22 PM »
Went out at 5766.00. If it exists and gets delivered, someone got a deal...

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Re: 1995 1 oz proof gold panda - fake?
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2016, 07:08:14 PM »
It reminds me of a fake, too-good-to-be-true auction I bid on.  A 3 day auction for a high-value item from an account with no recent sales and no obvious coin related feedback. The auction ended on a Thursday so he could first postpone shipping until the following week, and then had another reason he had to be out of town.  He was finally able to provide a legitimate Fedex tracking number which turned out to be an unrelated delivery to a neighbor!  My neighbor was surprised that I thought it might be for me and delivered to them by accident.  I don't know how he figured that out.

It turned out to be a hijacked account and ebay refunded me.  I kept them informed of the suspicious nature of the transaction along the way, but they weren't overly interested in my warnings.

I don't know if the hijacker made any money from the transaction and if ebay lost theirs.

The funny thing was that I was able to find the exact photo the hijacker used by searching google images,  from a much older legitimate ebay auction. 


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Re: 1995 1 oz proof gold panda - fake?
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2016, 10:20:35 PM »
I sent a message to the seller several hours prior to the listing ending and shockingly, no response.  I'm quite certain this was a bogus transaction.

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Re: 1995 1 oz proof gold panda - fake?
« Reply #12 on: October 10, 2016, 01:01:34 PM »
This ebay seller account doesn't even exist anymore.  Seller probably was not pleased with results and forced a shutdown of his/her account.