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Offline pandamonium

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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2015, 08:37:04 AM »
Most articles say this fall or winter as China's AIIB banks and CIPS payment will be in place and a alternative to the USD loaded w/ debt/derivatives.   I hope not that soon.   I read a past comment from Martin Armstrong but could not find the article.   He said the turn around will happen late this year.   The Yuan is the new King, isn't that obvious?  The only question is time frame....     Looks to me any gold/silver coin/medal minted in China will have value.   The official mint and the popular private mint will be on the upper tier.   Because many private mints issue are highly regarded, how do we draw the line at popular vs regular private mint?    Also as the Yuan is demanded worldwide, that will create demand for all Chinese collectible money.   There is not enough official mint to meet future demand.  The future potential demand for Chinese collectible money is mind boggling......

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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2015, 09:02:57 AM »
You get no argument from me about MCC value and demand ,Martin Armstrong??:)   the yuan New king ?? ..my kids are 5 years old (twins)and they wont see the RMB replace the dollar as the universal worldwide currency that all currency is measured against...  just my opinion ..I love China my children are half Chinese and of course that would make my wife Chinese:) so I am not China bashing . If you look at the idiots that are currently running the US you could certainly make a very strong argument of the imperfections of Democracy. But if anyone thinks (including Martin Armstrong) that a currency backed and manipulated by a Socialist government is ever going to rise to world power is mistaken IMHO it just wont be accepted by the world. That AIIB bank thing sure countries like Australia are going to jump on board to preserve trade relationships, but the RMB worldwide king ???    it was less than  20 years  ago no one wanted the RMB in Hong Kong . the rise as a regional currency because of trade with China sure! But replacing the dollar as some kind of king we are a century away if ever. just my opinion

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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2015, 11:00:36 AM »
You get no argument from me about MCC value and demand ,Martin Armstrong??:)   the yuan New king ?? ..my kids are 5 years old (twins)and they wont see the RMB replace the dollar as the universal worldwide currency that all currency is measured against...  just my opinion ..I love China my children are half Chinese and of course that would make my wife Chinese:) so I am not China bashing . If you look at the idiots that are currently running the US you could certainly make a very strong argument of the imperfections of Democracy. But if anyone thinks (including Martin Armstrong) that a currency backed and manipulated by a Socialist government is ever going to rise to world power is mistaken IMHO it just wont be accepted by the world. That AIIB bank thing sure countries like Australia are going to jump on board to preserve trade relationships, but the RMB worldwide king ???    it was less than  20 years  ago no one wanted the RMB in Hong Kong . the rise as a regional currency because of trade with China sure! But replacing the dollar as some kind of king we are a century away if ever. just my opinion
I have tried to keep away from this crazy talk as much as I can and I will continue to keep away. Just one or two comments. It's just like the Y2k crash in computers and everything computer associated including airlines that never happened but the hype leading up to it was overwhelmingly loud. Then everyone shut up. All the noisemakers slunk away; now everyone pretends it never happened. The world was supposed to have ended last year too!

Most sadly of it all is this situation that has been generating so much noise and the usual prophesies of doom of this system and triumphancy of that other system. Rather than being happy that China has continued to evolve economically, becoming self sufficient in various ways, able to control her population and maintain peace and order, the usual suspects are just gloating away at a situation that does not require such intemperate behavior.

It is great that China has floated another world-type of bank. Now it can share more proportionately in the task of protecting the world economically and helping countries grow by borrowing money from their new bank. That is a positive development which at least can spare America some of the burden of carrying and caring for poorly functioning economies around the world.

To jump from this and suddenly becoming a world economic powerhouse as posited by some of our forum friends?! This can only be shown in a retrospective manner. If all that is predicted by the group happens we shall see that in future. I have not even seen anything constructive the proponents of this transition are doing except the noise. How are they positioning their portfolio. What have they bought in anticipation?

In the final analysis China has prospered because of a combination of innate positive attributes and flow of capital from the West in payment for translocated industrial products. We are currently pouring millions into China for MCC. I am someone who believes in good for all. I am happy with China's burgeoning prosperity. It is a good thing. If the Middle East was doing the same thing we would not be having all the strife we have there now. But that is a different story.

Let's control these primal urges of trying to be or determine who is the alpha male!

Thanks to JCmultipleeights for your contribution.
KeepOnTrying and Never Give Up!
That lion is also after you!

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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2015, 01:46:35 PM »
To clarify,  Martin Armstrong said he forecasts the USD to rally to 2017 or so. I think that if the yuan could have a shot at appreciation it would be after the USD blowout top.

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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2015, 07:48:48 PM »
There are no "gurus" who can see the future.   Martin Armstrong included.

But there are and always have been those who pretend to,  and even claim to be seers, in order to deceive and steal others money.

They keep popping up, over and over again, they get exposed, they dissappear for a while to let things settle down, but they "keep on trying", and sadly its human nature for some to want to follow them, to desperately want to believe, for their own benefit.  Usually the predators take advantage of this greed in their victims, hence the victims don't want to admit to themselves their suspicions they are being taken for a ride, until its too late.  See Bernie Madoff.

Snake oil salesmen loud self-promoter types, who often rely on multiple false identities to try and build a story.

Do your own due diligence, and be aware especially of those tooting their own horn, claimimg infallibility and the claimed gift to be able to see the future, speaking in the Third Person, naming things after themselves.

They have clearly defined personality disorders.

Steer clear.


Reality is often uglier than we imagine in these cases.


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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2015, 07:55:37 PM »
There are no "gurus" who can see the future.   Martin Armstrong included.

But there are and always have been those who pretend to,  and even claim to be seers, in order to deceive and steal others money.

They keep popping up, over and over again, they get exposed, they dissappear for a while to let things settle down, but they keep on trying, and sadly its human nature for some to want to follow them, to desperately want to believe, for their own benefit.  Usually the predators take advantage of this greed in their victims, hence the victims don't want to admit to themselves their suspicions they are being taken for a ride, until its too late.  See Bernie Madoff.

Snake oil salesmen loud self-promoter types, who often rely on multiple false identities to try and build a story.

Do your own due diligence, and be aware especially of those tooting their own horn, claimimg infallibility and the claimed gift to be able to see the future, speaking in the Third Person, naming things after themselves.

They have clearly defined personality disorders.

Steer clear.


Amen to that!!  I agree 1000%.  No one knows the future.  NO ONE.  All these people are just SWAGING it, period.  Cycles, and leaves, and stars...just more of a 'fancy' way for them to think they can predict the future...and to get others to believe them...but at the end of the day, NO ONE KNOWS.  Period! 

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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2015, 08:20:10 PM »
There are no "gurus" who can see the future.   Martin Armstrong included.

But there are and always have been those who pretend to,  and even claim to be seers, in order to deceive and steal others money.

They keep popping up, over and over again, they get exposed, they dissappear for a while to let things settle down, but they "keep on trying", and sadly its human nature for some to want to follow them, to desperately want to believe, for their own benefit.  Usually the predators take advantage of this greed in their victims, hence the victims don't want to admit to themselves their suspicions they are being taken for a ride, until its too late.  See Bernie Madoff.

Snake oil salesmen loud self-promoter types, who often rely on multiple false identities to try and build a story.

Do your own due diligence, and be aware especially of those tooting their own horn, claimimg infallibility and the claimed gift to be able to see the future, speaking in the Third Person, naming things after themselves.

They have clearly defined personality disorders.

Steer clear.


Reality is often uglier than we imagine in these cases.




Hippanda, I have learnt a great deaal from you but in trhis case you are wrong. There have been some analysts I follow whose predictions made me a ton.

A few of Martin Armstrong's most successfel calls:

-top of the Nikkei
-when it hit the top, he predicted the value it would bottom at
-the Oct 1987 Black Monday prediction
-Dec 31, 2014 he predicted oil, the Euro and copper would drop in the new year. Using options, on just the successful Euro call alone, I made over 50x my money.

I haven't lost with Armstrong.

If you knew the history, you would know that the US government wanted the source code for Martin Armstrong's computer that predicted these events so successfully. He refused. So he was imprisoned without charges for 12 years. He was even bunked with a serial killer at one point, who attacked and almost killed him. Armstrong was in a coma for three days.

The judge in the case is now on the board of Goldman Sachs :0

There has been a documentary made about him. Its being considered for Cannes.

http://forecaster-movie.com/en/the-forecaster/

I watched the documentary and came away even more confident about following his predictions. So far they have all realized.

My take on this is if you can find a good forecaster, you follow them. Life is cyclical and somehow Armstrong's computer, Socrates (which I saw a demo of earlier this year) is able to make predicts with accuracy. He uses the number Pi.

Maybe thats why its called the circle of life? People also say "history repeats". Well, Armstrong just figured out the cycles.

Its not like this hasnt been done before. Kondratieff discovered the business cycle and met a similar fate-the Russian government didn't like hearing about these cycles (governments seem to need to be able to claim to the unwashed that the government's omnipotence includes being able to repeal the business cycle. Of course thats impossible. It would be like repealing human nature.

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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2015, 08:23:26 PM »
Amen to that!!  I agree 1000%.  No one knows the future.  NO ONE.  All these people are just SWAGING it, period.  Cycles, and leaves, and stars...just more of a 'fancy' way for them to think they can predict the future...and to get others to believe them...but at the end of the day, NO ONE KNOWS.  Period!  

I know the future. Tomorrow the sun will rise.

All kidding aside, the cycles fo the sun and moon aren't the only cycles on this planet. You can watch a cicada burrow into the ground and know it emerges 17 years later. But don't tell the cicada it can't predict the future.

Ditto for salmon and many other creatures.

I can predict the future all day long. Flowers bloom in spring. In summer its going to be hotter than now. In winter is snows. etc etc

If you think you can't foresee the shape of the future you aren't trying hard enough.

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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2015, 08:31:58 PM »
It takes two:

A storeteller,

And somebody who wants to hear the story. And who often seek out and often follow storeytellers.

Enjoy the story if you like it.


There are other storeytellers out there too.

Ignore their mistakes and inconsistencies, and you'll continue to be happy.  Cheers!



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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2015, 11:57:01 PM »
It takes two:

A storeteller,

And somebody who wants to hear the story. And who often seek out and often follow storeytellers.

Enjoy the story if you like it.


There are other storeytellers out there too.

Ignore their mistakes and inconsistencies, and you'll continue to be happy.  Cheers!





Storytelling? ? I thought you were smarter than that.  I guess the governments, central banks and institutions that have parked over $2 trillion with Martin Armstrong do it for the storytelling.

Sorry but you are the storyteller.  I came here to discuss successful market forecasting. Obviously you don't know the difference between a storyteller and a good analyst.

In August and September 2011 on this forum I had a similar interaction with Konajim who along with others here berated me for shorting gold at $1900.

I made enough money to buy some very nice MCC. Everyone else not so much.  They mistook robust technical analysis for storytelling.

Today you showed your ignorance. You don't have any inclination to study the difference between a good and bad analyst. You don't add anything to the discussion. So don't.

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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2015, 12:11:17 AM »
*Sigh*-

Do you want to keep feeling good about your direction following this Martin Armstrong?  Or would you rather have the truth? Or just call others ignorant to feel better?

It seems from your reaction, you really want to believe, and want to blame the messenger rather than the Con Man. That's fine- if it makes you happy.  Believe those who are telling you tales. (Ever wonder why he calls it the CON-fidence model? A CON-Job?  From a CONvict ? You never thought it funny he didn't plead "No Contest" , but instead "Guilty" of fraud?  Hmmm...

My response is not for you much as it is for others who may read and are curious.

Sad reality- nobody can tell you the future. Nobody with crystal balls, nobody with a "Special Secret Computer Program".  No All-Knowing Wizard behind the curtain with a Big Machine. It's smoke and mirrors. Directed at those gullible enough to really, really, want to believe, and who will ignore all sorts of evidence to the contrary. Recall:
Bernie Madoff's early investors thought he was a saint, who made them lots of money! What a visionary !

If, after a while, it begins to sit uncomfortable with you, and you want real answers on the other hand, they are out there. Do your due diligence.  Reports on this Martin's Armstrong's  inaccuracies and mistakes are out there. PM me if you want the rundown. Some things you wrote are truly just inaccurate.  No Board member of GOldman Sachs was the judge in his trial. Cohen was not the judge. Look it up. Even on Martins own website . You are following "His Story" and additionally throwing out sloppy inaccuracies yourself to try and have it jive, and sadly it doesn't.

Sorry to have to let you know.

Stories are fun until reality hits.



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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2015, 01:28:45 AM »
This went downhill fast...
Once personal attacks begin I believe we have entered the realm of violating the spirit and rules of the forum?

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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2015, 01:34:13 AM »
Agreed

Wow.

Just wow.





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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2015, 05:04:52 AM »
What about those beautiful Panda Goats.  Looks like they've been cleaned up on eBay.  Next up, the monkey.  Can't wait.

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Re: 2015 Panda Lunar Goat - Video - Beautiful medal
« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2015, 06:30:00 AM »
love those goats !!:)