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1898 Fengtien Province 10 cents
« on: February 08, 2015, 06:24:34 PM »
Hello, I acquired a very interesting coin this morning and would like to get some help from some of the experts on the forum to know if this coin is genuine or not. Any and all help is always greatly appreciated!

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Re: 1898 Fengtien Province 10 cents
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2015, 02:21:54 PM »
IMO, this is a questionable coin. When the circulated coin in F/VF condition, the rim should be smooth without any pimple. This coin has several pimples on the rim on both sides of the coin, based on the pictures.

The coin should weigh about 2.6-2.7 gm.

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Re: 1898 Fengtien Province 10 cents
« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2015, 09:13:02 PM »
Thanks for your opinion Poconopenn.

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Re: 1898 Fengtien Province 10 cents
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2016, 01:45:38 PM »
poconopenn put forward a very good point here. This is how we say circulation condition needs to be matched with coin condition itself (流通痕迹需要与币面状况相匹配). Many reproductions are use genuine coin as mold, so all the wear will be exactly copied to the reproduced counterfeit coins, but the real circulated condition is hard to copy. It needs time to accumulate. Personally I think real old toning is also hard to be copied also and can be used as judging. But it needs experience to judge real old toning or artificial toning. I want to say something more here. Many real old toning is started from rim and transit to the center. The color will be nature transition from rim to center. Black will be the color of ultimate sulfurized. Coin toning is a very interesting topic and also related about temperature, humidity and soil environment if coin is discovered from underground. Many coin dealer in China can even judge where the coin comes from just by viewing the toning on the coin surface! That's very cool!

So back to the topic, I also think this is a questionable coin until you provide more clear photo.

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Re: 1898 Fengtien Province 10 cents
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2016, 02:00:19 AM »
That's very insightful pitcoinchaser, could you help me look at my older posts to see whether my coins are genuine haha ? Thanks.

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Re: 1898 Fengtien Province 10 cents
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2016, 03:22:29 AM »
Hi, I just briefly see some of the coins you posted before. Most of the coin are counterfeit and please purchase coins from trusted dealer in future :) Many coins can be found on ebay but unfortunately they are modern reproductions.

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Re: 1898 Fengtien Province 10 cents
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2016, 10:19:37 PM »
Here is an updated photo of the coin originally posted. I would like to get confirmation that the coin is NOT GENUINE, as it was purchased from the most reputable Imperial Coin Dealer in the State I live in, and would like to get a refund if that is in fact the case. Thanks in advance.

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Re: 1898 Fengtien Province 10 cents
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2016, 03:04:40 PM »
Weight actually fluctuates between 2.6 and 2.7grams

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Re: 1898 Fengtien Province 10 cents
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2016, 12:43:36 AM »
I will pass for this coin after carefully reviewing all the information of the coin

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Re: 1898 Fengtien Province 10 cents
« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2017, 04:37:22 PM »
Finally sent this coin in for grading. Not the best grade but it is Genuine! :biggrin:

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Re: 1898 Fengtien Province 10 cents
« Reply #10 on: January 07, 2017, 06:26:37 AM »
Yeah. At least it's real.