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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #390 on: March 25, 2016, 11:58:45 AM »
The proof versions of Yuanmingyuan, Geyuan and the Mountain Resort were never TAKEN OUT of the soft pouch. They were never put in there, because of the concern of white spots. This time the sponsors are encouraging collectors to cut them out if not graded immediately, to avoid this problem. The soft pouch was added this time probably to prevent the capsule from opening during shipping.

As for the validity of the soft pouch contributing to white spots, our previous moderator badon had a theory, and the Classical Garden medals' team claimed that it was their experience with the Summer Palace.

Thanks for clarifying. Maybe I was mistaken in my phraseology but the following photos and others gave me the impression that the medals left the mint in double OMPs and in sheets. The gilt brass and proof silver medals reached the market only in the hard coin capsules. Some resellers resealed the medals using non-proprietary plastic, probably to reduce continued atmospheric contamination and/or prevent the capsules from opening in uncontrolled conditions.

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=11056.msg65346#msg65346

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=11056.msg66221#msg66221

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=11056.msg66548#msg66548

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #391 on: March 25, 2016, 02:42:13 PM »
Once again, good Intel about how a soft pouch can cause white spots even thru a hard plastic capsule protecting the medal from the elements?

Is that really true?  Is it scientifically proven?  I have a hard believing that. 
But what do I know.  I'm a peon in these halls.  Maybe all medals moving forward will come with just the capsule, just like other coins like Perth Mint. 

I'm okay with that, quite honestly.

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #392 on: March 26, 2016, 12:44:09 AM »
Here is a photo of the 2016 Liuyuan Classical Garden proof silver medals that have just been released. The total mintage of the proof silver medals is 1000, consisting of 500 pairs of proof and reverse proof medals. I don't know yet if they will be sold as a pair or individually. I haven't seen any on eBay yet. The rumor is that several sellers/dealers will be involved in selling the medal this time around.
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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #393 on: March 26, 2016, 12:37:09 PM »
Ever since Geyuan, the exclusive distributor system has been abandoned. So there won't be quantity available. At this moment, the medals meant for sale are being graded. Some will pop up on the market when grading is done.

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #394 on: April 03, 2016, 03:05:39 PM »
Characteristics of The (Current and Proposed) “Medalled” Chinese Classical Gardens*
I just wanted to share the following personal insight on the Chinese Classical Gardens that have been the subject of the medals released (or proposed) so far in the Series. This is an attempt to understand why these gardens were selected. This cannot in anyway be thought of as authoritative and I did not seek anyone’s opinion before putting down these thoughts!

Yuyuan
Initially envisioned and constructed for private family use. Subsequently opened up to the public. Provides an oasis in an otherwise very busy and crowded city. Regarded as the best garden in southeast China. Houses the famous Great Rockery and Exquisite Jade Rock.

Lan Ting Garden (The Orchid Pavillon)
One of the four most famous gardens in China. Built during the reign of the Qing emperor Kangxi. A major part of its fame and persisting popularity arises from the epic calligraphic work of Wang Xizhi (AD 321-379). Also famed for its orchids.

Yiheyuan (“New” Summer Palace)
Currently the most preserved (and largest) Imperial garden in China. Called the “Museum of Chinese Gardens” because it contains elements of Chinese gardens and design styles from all over China. Initially planned for rest and leisure by the Imperial family. Subsequently became an all-year residence for the family and Empress Cixi’s power base. Has a large man-made lake complex and hills. Contains the world famous Long Corridor and the Xiequyuan.

Yuanmingyuan (Old Summer Palace)
Immense engineering and architectural achievement. One of the longest running (150 years) of such building works. Either the best or very close to the best of Gardens in the whole world. Very eclectic design; incorporated features from all over China with significant Tibetan, Mongolian and European input. The effects of its destruction still reverberate. The initially overwhelming prospect of reconstruction (remodeling and update) may become easier to tackle if spread out over a time frame that mirrors (to some extent) that of its initial construction. “A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step”.

The Mountain Resort of Chengde
Built by the Imperial family as a retreat for escaping the hot summer weather of Beijing (Peking). Two emperors (Jaiqing and Xianfeng) died here while in residence. The Imperial family sought refuge here during the Anglo-French invasion and destruction of the Beijing-based gardens in 1860. Houses one of the tallest stone built pagodas in China. This garden is also famed for it’s 72 “scenic spots”.

Geyuan
First built during the Ming dynasty and rebuilt in the Qing dynasty period. Has been referred to as the Magnum Opus of private gardens. Seems to have the longest running history of all the Chinese classical gardens (but I need confirmatory citations*). Also famous for its abundance and variety of bamboo; at a stage it was reputed to have more than 100 species of bamboo. In fact its current name “Ge” arose from the similarity of the bamboo leaf cluster to the Chinese character for Ge. An additional characteristic feature of this garden is it’s "four-season" rockery design.

Liuyuan
This is another very famous private Chinese classical garden (now State owned and maintained by the city of Suzhou). It has an extensive collection of Scholar stones including the world famous Auspicious Cloud Capped Peak stone. Another famed feature of the garden is it’s 700 meter covered walkway that connects the various buildings. This is just short of the 728 meters of the Long Corridor of the Yiheyuan. Liuyuan also acts as a repository for Pingtan and Guqin music, which are both UNESCO designated “Intangible World Heritage Arts”.

Zhuozhengyuan (Humble Administrator’s Garden)
This is one of the UNESCO world heritage site gardens in the city of Suzhou. It is also regarded as one of the four most famous gardens in China. For much of its history it was in private ownership although it was destroyed and rebuilt several times, partitioned and sold to different owners, before being taken over by the Chinese government. Cao Xueqin was reputed to have lived in this garden at some stage of his early life. The garden is also famous for more than 700 penjing (a.k.a. penzai) trees that it houses. The word “Humble” comes from the initial owner’s self-characterization.


*This is a work in progress; evolving as I learn more and flashes of insight happen! A lot of information is derived from public domain documentation. Clarification and modifications welcome!
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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #395 on: April 06, 2016, 06:59:27 AM »
The 2016 Liuyuan medals seem to have one booklet for all the metal types instead of the previous practice of customizing booklets for gold, silver, brass etc medals respectively.
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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #396 on: April 06, 2016, 11:44:05 PM »
Glancing through the Liuyuan medal booklet you realize that the garden contains more than is represented on the two sides of the medal. While no "40 scenes of the Yuanmingyuan" the booklet still shows that this Classical Chinese garden is more complex than represented on the medal itself. Following will be some pages of the booklet showing different views of the garden.

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #397 on: April 06, 2016, 11:45:25 PM »
#2 photo.

Walled in compounds; for privacy and protection in the past?
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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #398 on: April 06, 2016, 11:56:27 PM »
#3 photo. I believe the Auspicious Cloud Capped Peak scholar rock is being shown here from a different perspective.

Notice the covered corridor/passageway connecting the different parts/pavilions and other buildings; 700 meters long!
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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #399 on: April 07, 2016, 12:13:54 AM »
#4 photo.

Showing a panoramic view of part of the garden, waterfalls, bridge, pavilion etc.

Feeling sorry for my tour guide next time I visit China!!!
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« Reply #400 on: April 07, 2016, 12:35:48 AM »
There are several other wonderful depictions of the garden in the booklet. Can't post everything here. Copyright issues etc!  N2
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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #401 on: April 07, 2016, 04:38:09 PM »
The clay models of Zhuozhengyuan were engraved sometime ago, but the team did not like them. As a result, Lin Feng, who engraved both the Mountain Resort and Geyuan, was called on for the engraving work of Zhuozhengyuan. Here is a glimpse of his ongoing work.

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #402 on: April 07, 2016, 07:44:59 PM »
What is the approximate release date for this medal?

Is there any information on the planned mintage and metal types for this medal?

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« Reply #403 on: April 07, 2016, 07:58:23 PM »
What is the approximate release date for this medal?

Is there any information on the planned mintage and metal types for this medal?

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Probably end of the year. The mintage is unknown at the moment.

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Re: The Journey of the Chinese Classical Garden Series of Medals
« Reply #404 on: April 09, 2016, 01:25:17 PM »
fwang2450 please can you update the mintage table of the Chinese Classical Garden Medals with the Liuyuan Garden medal information whenever you can.

This was the last update:
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