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Re: Do I have the Record for most milk spots on ms69 coin
« Reply #15 on: June 30, 2014, 05:17:07 PM »
As mentioned to this buyer who no one would want as a customer, every coin this buyer bought from us he complained about silly things sniffing for something for nothing and we had said if unhappy please send the coin back and we would refund the price and to take his business elsewhere as we only deal with buyers who are reasonable and not ones you know you can never make happy and want something for nothing which this buyer clearly was.
Interesting how his side of the story is very one sided.
As we are an authorised dealer for PCGS in the UK we grade 1,000s of coins at a time and use stock photos and if a coin has spots it will mention this in the description to make buyers aware of this and we did not sell the coin as an error it was started at £0.01p with a clear picture of the which PCGS has designated as PR69 and if a buyer is unhappy with a PCGS Grade or Prefix they should contact PCGS directly as we base our information on what they provide.

Also for the company saying unreasonable things about us, this company says the same about all coin dealers in the UK and would recommend reading this article and making your own judgement who was also kicked out of the BNTA and Royal Mint refusing to do business with them.

http://lawrencechardexposed.com/

We are International specialists in PCGS Graded coins and as long as buyers are reasonable we will also be.

The London Coin Company


How is it you end up with so many milk spots on your coins?
1, Is it your poor storage?
2, pcgs do a poor job slabbing?
3, you get 'seconds' from them?

Surely 50 ish customers that have had feedback removed can't all be wrong

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Re: Do I have the Record for most milk spots on ms69 coin
« Reply #16 on: June 30, 2014, 06:36:42 PM »
this seller still owes me money.

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When the owner of what is likely one of the largest & extensive collections of MCC in the world says this I would consider The London Coin Company as disreputable until wg says otherwise.

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Re: Do I have the Record for most milk spots on ms69 coin
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2014, 12:04:05 AM »
As mentioned to this buyer who no one would want as a customer, every coin this buyer bought from us he complained about silly things sniffing for something for nothing and we had said if unhappy please send the coin back and we would refund the price and to take his business elsewhere as we only deal with buyers who are reasonable and not ones you know you can never make happy and want something for nothing which this buyer clearly was.
Interesting how his side of the story is very one sided.
As we are an authorised dealer for PCGS in the UK we grade 1,000s of coins at a time and use stock photos and if a coin has spots it will mention this in the description to make buyers aware of this and we did not sell the coin as an error it was started at £0.01p with a clear picture of the which PCGS has designated as PR69 and if a buyer is unhappy with a PCGS Grade or Prefix they should contact PCGS directly as we base our information on what they provide.

Also for the company saying unreasonable things about us, this company says the same about all coin dealers in the UK and would recommend reading this article and making your own judgement who was also kicked out of the BNTA and Royal Mint refusing to do business with them.

http://lawrencechardexposed.com/

We are International specialists in PCGS Graded coins and as long as buyers are reasonable we will also be.

The London Coin Company


I do not find your response satisfactory! There seems to be a pattern.

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Re: Do I have the Record for most milk spots on ms69 coin
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2014, 06:20:37 AM »
How is it you end up with so many milk spots on your coins?
1, Is it your poor storage?
2, pcgs do a poor job slabbing?
3, you get 'seconds' from them?

Surely 50 ish customers that have had feedback removed can't all be wrong


First of all we grade 1,000's of coins with PCGS directly and 90% of the time they are newly minted coins sent from either the Royal Mint or Distributors in the US and Europe.
Since about 2010-2011 newly minted coins seem to have an issue with spotting which only shows itself once a coin has been slabbed, the reason for this is the Mints are not washing the chemicals off the coins properly and shows itself by spotting once the coin has been slabbed and the air starved from the slabb.
If a coin has spotting we always mention this in the description and is not our fault buyers do not bother to read the description and then blame us when they receive a coin with spots.
We have been trading on Ebay for 11 years and pride ourselves on good customer service and dealing with issues as long as the buyer is reasonable.
We do not buy seconds as we grade the coins ourselves.
For example we graded 200 x 2013 Britannia £2 Silver Proofs sent from the Royal Mint straight to PCGS and by the time they came back to us all the coins had spots some worse than others, which shows you the quality of the coins being struck by certain Mints.
Same with China Silver Pandas, 2010, 2011 and 2012 were all very bad years for spotting on Pandas but 2013 and 2014 we have had no problems at all, so looks like the Mint has sorted the issue out.
We use PCGS rather than NGC as we prefer PCGS and their grading is more stricter than NGC as we see MS70's and PF70's in NGC and you can see marks the same for 69's and they call a badly struck coin an error.

The London Coin Company

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Re: Do I have the Record for most milk spots on ms69 coin
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2014, 10:07:16 AM »
First of all we grade 1,000's of coins with PCGS directly and 90% of the time they are newly minted coins sent from either the Royal Mint or Distributors in the US and Europe.
Since about 2010-2011 newly minted coins seem to have an issue with spotting which only shows itself once a coin has been slabbed, the reason for this is the Mints are not washing the chemicals off the coins properly and shows itself by spotting once the coin has been slabbed and the air starved from the slabb.
If a coin has spotting we always mention this in the description and is not our fault buyers do not bother to read the description and then blame us when they receive a coin with spots.
We have been trading on Ebay for 11 years and pride ourselves on good customer service and dealing with issues as long as the buyer is reasonable.
We do not buy seconds as we grade the coins ourselves.
For example we graded 200 x 2013 Britannia £2 Silver Proofs sent from the Royal Mint straight to PCGS and by the time they came back to us all the coins had spots some worse than others, which shows you the quality of the coins being struck by certain Mints.
Same with China Silver Pandas, 2010, 2011 and 2012 were all very bad years for spotting on Pandas but 2013 and 2014 we have had no problems at all, so looks like the Mint has sorted the issue out.
We use PCGS rather than NGC as we prefer PCGS and their grading is more stricter than NGC as we see MS70's and PF70's in NGC and you can see marks the same for 69's and they call a badly struck coin an error.

The London Coin Company


This should teach all coin collectors 2 lessons:

#1 - Even perfect 70 numeric grade doesn't mean coin is 100% perfect and free from imperfections.

#2 - If you want perfection, you should choose another hobby since genuine silver and gold coins will tone/tarnish over time, same as humans ageing over time. Numismatics is not suitable as a hobby for perfectionists.

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Re: Do I have the Record for most milk spots on ms69 coin
« Reply #20 on: July 01, 2014, 11:14:34 AM »
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use stock photos and if a coin has spots it will mention this in the description to make buyers aware of this If a coin has spotting we always mention this in the description and is not our fault buyers do not bother to read the description and then blame us when they receive a coin with spots.

That was just not the case, no matter how many times it is said.

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As mentioned to this buyer who no one would want as a customer, every coin this buyer bought from us he complained about silly things sniffing for something for nothing and we had said if unhappy please send the coin back and we would refund the price and to take his business elsewhere as we only deal with buyers who are reasonable and not ones you know you can never make happy and want something for nothing which this buyer clearly was.

You have some nerve, coming here saying no one wants me as a customer! If you had your things in order (and actually were specialist in coins and not only in getting them mass graded), I wouldn´t have had any complaints. Fortunately, I´ve found better places to purchase my coins and they seem quite satisfied with me as customer. 

"Boards don´t hit back!"

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Re: Do I have the Record for most milk spots on ms69 coin
« Reply #21 on: July 01, 2014, 11:41:46 AM »
We are pleased to hear you have found yourself another source to buy your coins and we hope for their sake you are reasonable with them.

The London Coin Company