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Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« on: April 17, 2014, 02:20:26 PM »
Which Chinese coin or medal (modern or older) would you keep if you are required to liquidate your coin collection, investment or inventory?  Why?

I would keep my 1996 China 25y gold coin commemorating the Centennial of China Post, NGC PF70UC.  Why?  Design with Dragon stamp.  Low planned mintage (3000) and lower actual/surviving mintage.  Quality dies created very concise coins.  Available for purchase (at the time of my acquisition) for a nominal/low amount.

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2014, 04:15:15 PM »
Tie between:
a) 1987 - 1 troz platinum New York Panda medal
b) Undated 1990 struck - 1 troz gold Bao Yuan Vault Protector medal
Both have limited mintage of 1,000 and both are a complete collection of one (to date) - only 1 troz platinum panda medal struck and only 1 troz gold vault protector medal struck.
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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2014, 05:26:02 PM »
I do not own a 1990 one oz vault protector, but I would like to own one.  I have looked at a few at various coin shows.  Unfortunately, they are very expensive in today's marketplace.  I do not know what the actual mintage is, but I do know they are difficult to locate and purchase.

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2014, 07:01:05 PM »
As long as I can re-buy from ebay, I would not keep anything. All coins and medals are assets that I can liquid.

Unless the coin is so rare like Saint Gaudens 1933, Bust dollar any date or 20oz silver/gold Peacock 1993.

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2014, 08:09:54 PM »
I do not own a 1990 one oz vault protector, but I would like to own one.  I have looked at a few at various coin shows.  Unfortunately, they are very expensive in today's marketplace.  I do not know what the actual mintage is, but I do know they are difficult to locate and purchase.

Mark Bonke 

There is a 1 troz silver version struck also in 1990 which is a lot cheaper and more available. Also the 1985 struck 1/10 troz gold Bao Yuan Vault Protector. I have both of these, as well. 

All three have the same design. Another possible collection of 3.
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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2014, 09:09:29 PM »
I do have the 1985 gold and 1990 silver vault protectors.  They are special parts of my small collection.

As a collector, I realize that most forum members are investors or dealers.  Still, as a collector, I realize we all have limited resources and, at times, we are required to sell our collections, investments or inventory.  I was just wondering whether there was something which each of you would "hold back" and keep to the end.

Sometime, during the past year, I purchased the 2013 Shanghai Memories gold and silver set.  The design is fantastic with the Shanghai scenes and the Jewish symbolism.  This is still new to my collection.  Over time, I may bond with the gold medal in this set and be very hesitant to sell it.

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2014, 09:50:04 PM »
1986 peace due to the theme.  Then for the heck of it, 1996 silver 12 oz panda.

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2014, 01:56:59 AM »
I do not own a 1990 one oz vault protector, but I would like to own one.  I have looked at a few at various coin shows.  Unfortunately, they are very expensive in today's marketplace.  I do not know what the actual mintage is, but I do know they are difficult to locate and purchase.

Mark Bonke 

1990 1oz gold Vault Protector = 1,000 mintage (same as 2013 expo panda 1oz silver medal)
1990 1oz silver VP = 5,000 mintage

I don't see what beauty is in these Vault Protector medals. Both sides are just Chinese words. No panda, no peacock, no people, no scenery.

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2014, 03:40:01 AM »
Which Chinese coin or medal (modern or older) would you keep if you are required to liquidate your coin collection, investment or inventory?  Why?


This one

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2014, 04:43:11 AM »
There is a tradition on CCF of encouraging positive exchanges of information and I hope that will always continue. I see no need to question or disparage other members' choices of their favorite coins or medals or the historical and cultural context that inspired them. It is my opinion that is not an appropriate approach on this forum. I apologize in advance if I misinterpreted anyone's remarks.

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2014, 05:12:19 AM »
Peter, I think we have previously decided to give Contrapunctus a "pass" as most appreciate his candor and sometimes lighthearted and funny comments. He brings a different perspective which should be valued by all.

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2014, 06:58:45 AM »
I think it is perfectly legit to ask questions about why someone likes a particular coin. That is informative and educational for all. However, I do not agree that it's a positive development to be candid to the point of suggesting that another forum member's choice of favorite coin lacks merit. I don't think that sort of candor deserves a pass and believe it will discourage participation in this forum. To each his own.

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2014, 07:45:47 AM »
I think it is perfectly legit to ask questions about why someone likes a particular coin. That is informative and educational for all. However, I do not agree that it's a positive development to be candid to the point of suggesting that another forum member's choice of favorite coin lacks merit. I don't think that sort of candor deserves a pass and believe it will discourage participation in this forum. To each his own.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
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www.pandacollector.com

I appreciate open discussions on topics, and I appreciate hearing diverse perspectives,  But, I also appreciate when people take an extra moment to read through what they are about to post, to make sure that it has a constructive tone, and is not likely to alienate other members.  I'll second the preference for this forum to remain a "friendly community."  We can disagree, but let's be civil  N48

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2014, 08:18:55 AM »
Hippanda

Wow!  A 5oz gold God of Longevity medal.  If I owned this medal, it would be on the top of my "keep list."  I have only seen this medal twice.  Many years ago, at the ANA show in Boston, Nick Brown had one on display.  Then, last year, at the ANA show in Chicago, Robert Mish had one with the original box and COA.  When I had the opportunity to see these medals, I realized this was my favorite design.  You are a fortunate collector / investor to own this particular medal (in my opinion).

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2014, 08:29:19 AM »
1989 China 5oz Zhao Gongming God of War & Wealth gold medal, I bought it in 1999 the first gold MCC I ever bought,i actually bought it just to hold gold:) beautiful coin,gold was somewhere around 490 per oz spot ,I believe i paid around 90 over spot per oz for the coin ,regardless of the value ,it is still my favorite and for that reason if it had to be the only one ,i would keep it................

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2014, 08:45:58 AM »
I don't see what beauty is in these Vault Protector medals. Both sides are just Chinese words. No panda, no peacock, no people, no scenery.

That's the beauty of it. It goes unnoticed by those who do not know the significance and symbolism it represents to the Asian folks.

On the larger size gold coins, there are quite a few that I drool over. Wish I had ventured into the 5 troz size gold coins and medals (If only I had enough disposable income to afford them).
trozau (troy ounce gold)
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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #16 on: April 18, 2014, 09:45:55 AM »
My choice is a gamble, the 1993 Matte God of Longevity.   NGC does not have enough information to grade.   It is on Huong Ruiyong's medal list w/ 999 mintage.    NGC said they have seen about 4 of them and they are very rare.   Traded for this one.   The jury is still out........



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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #17 on: April 18, 2014, 03:44:09 PM »
1989 China 5oz Zhao Gongming God of War & Wealth gold medal
I had to look for that, I have only seen the silver version.
Luckily there was one for sale... very nice!
http://www.ebay.com/itm/271457279509

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #18 on: April 18, 2014, 09:51:58 PM »
Peter, I think we have previously decided to give Contrapunctus a "pass" as most appreciate his candor and sometimes lighthearted and funny comments. He brings a different perspective which should be valued by all.
I think it is perfectly legit to ask questions about why someone likes a particular coin. That is informative and educational for all. However, I do not agree that it's a positive development to be candid to the point of suggesting that another forum member's choice of favorite coin lacks merit. I don't think that sort of candor deserves a pass and believe it will discourage participation in this forum. To each his own.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
China Pricepedia
www.pandacollector.com
I appreciate open discussions on topics, and I appreciate hearing diverse perspectives,  But, I also appreciate when people take an extra moment to read through what they are about to post, to make sure that it has a constructive tone, and is not likely to alienate other members.  I'll second the preference for this forum to remain a "friendly community."  We can disagree, but let's be civil  N48

No offense to anyone, but I'm just a direct person. Sorry. I don't understand what the Chinese words on the "Vault Protector" mean (I would rather get security guards if I have a vault, just joking :lol:), thus I don't see the beauty of it as it doesn't have pandas, peacocks, animals or scenery. Maybe any member from China would like to introduce this "Vault Protector" and let me know the beauty behind it? Is it in the way the Chinese words are minted that makes this medal beautiful?


That's the beauty of it. It goes unnoticed by those who do not know the significance and symbolism it represents to the Asian folks.

On the larger size gold coins, there are quite a few that I drool over. Wish I had ventured into the 5 troz size gold coins and medals (If only I had enough disposable income to afford them).

May I know what is the significance and symbolism?

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #19 on: April 18, 2014, 09:55:47 PM »
NBM   you can see why I love it ,huayinshoucang 's price is a little strong IMHO but that sure is a beauty and a lofty grade! ,every time I go to the vault I look at the one I own it gives me a warm glow:) I sure wish I had more fund,s in the late 90's when I bought that there where so many beautiful coins around then,but if I remember correctly it took me about 6 month,s to scrape the 2400 usd together to buy it   next time I will take some pictures the box and coa are quite impressive

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #20 on: April 19, 2014, 09:17:45 AM »
Which Chinese coin or medal (modern or older) would you keep if you are required to liquidate your coin collection, investment or inventory?  Why?

I like gold pandas for a variety of reasons, but if I could only keep one coin, I might vote for an older Chinese coin: the 1928 Kweichow Auto Dollar.  I looked at my inventory, and this is the Chinese coin that I've had for the longest time, despite buying, selling, and trading quite a bit over the past several years.  If I've kept it this long, I'll probably keep it even longer.  It is a coin I always linger on and admire when I am looking through my collection. 


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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #21 on: April 19, 2014, 11:42:02 AM »
The 1928 Kweichow Auto Dollar is a great choice.

A few years ago, I was attending a Heritage coin auction in Chicago.  One of the owners of a major auction company was the successful bidder for a Kweichow Auto Dollar.  He was so excited. 

You are fortunate to own a coin which brings you continuing enjoyment.

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #22 on: April 19, 2014, 02:35:14 PM »
Another coin I had to look up.
It has an interesting history as well as a hidden feature.

A Warlord Produces the China 1928 Auto Dollar
http://www.pcgs.com/News/warlord-produces-china-1928-auto-dollar



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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #23 on: April 19, 2014, 03:39:01 PM »
Another coin I had to look up.
It has an interesting history as well as a hidden feature.

A Warlord Produces the China 1928 Auto Dollar
http://www.pcgs.com/News/warlord-produces-china-1928-auto-dollar




I hadn't heard that story.  Is that really true?  I wonder, when someone who can read Chinese looks at the coin when rotated 90 degrees, do they really see the name?  Or is it a bit of a stretch to suggest that the pattern of the grass blades really form his name?  If it is indeed true, then that only increases the intrigue of the coin for me.  Thanks for sharing that link.  :thumbup:

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2014, 05:02:37 PM »
I can't made out his name from the grass.  I believe warloard Zhou Xicheng's chinese name is 周西成.  I just can't see it.

An AU-55 auto dollar was sold for $44,812 in April 2014 Stack's Bowers.  Woof!
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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2014, 09:32:27 PM »
 周西成 has another name 周世杰.

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #26 on: June 24, 2015, 04:18:31 AM »
1983 ungraded 1 oz silver panda coin and 2000 1oz mirrored panda(in OMP).  They are very rare, beautifully designed and cost me a bomb! I will keep them.

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« Reply #27 on: July 13, 2015, 04:07:34 AM »
I am more of a collector to feed my passion and there are lots more vintages which I collect that include antique jewellery as well. Some of them I perform minor restoration to look great on display cases, whilst others just remain in their individual stunning worn condition. Either ways, antiques never fail to amaze me in their own ways.
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« Reply #28 on: July 13, 2015, 10:53:23 AM »
I would definitely keep 1 sen coin or 10 sen Netherlands` Indies japanese occupation, but I am still hunting for one.
From the coins that I own, I would keep my PRC fen alu collection, it took me much of time and efforts to get  decent one.

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« Reply #29 on: June 20, 2016, 11:57:54 PM »
Interesting thread, hope to see more posts. Heres mine.


At this time, the only coin i'll keep if all others have to be sold would be the 1994 1/4+1/8 Bimetallic Unicorn PF69.


Always thought Bimetallic coins stands out in attractiveness. The unicorn's legs in this coin, compared to all the others in the same year is actually slightly longer and slimmer, which i think is unique. The overall design is very well balanced, both obverse and reverse designs are concise, detailed yet maintaining a clean crisp look and with a good touch of flair and class, very classic 90s style. Size is just nice (1/4s are my favourites), great east meets west theme, and to top it off, the actual mintage is low. 


Caught my attention since i saw it somewhere but never thought could own one due to the price. After a couple of years, came back into collecting and missed a couple chances to buy it at auctions. Waited and waited but none appeared available until recently, one came up at a coin show which i happened to be at and bought it immediately, though the price was higher than recent auction prices and i have to use my other savings reserve, but with no regrets. Would not hesitate to acquire a couple more if chances and dry powder allows :)



Disclosure: i do own a few bimetallic coins.
Ps: Still looking for the 95 bimetallic Unicorn

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Re: Which coin would you keep (if all else must be sold)? Why?
« Reply #30 on: June 21, 2016, 02:50:11 AM »
  N34
"He who speaks without modesty will find it difficult to make his words good."

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