Author Topic: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?  (Read 1989 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Mr-Panda

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 20
  • Karma: 0
Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« on: October 10, 2016, 09:45:12 PM »
I have a 50g pure gold (test as .999 pure gold using a Precious Metal Verifier) "bar" in a hard plastic holder.  I am not sure if this is even Chinese or if this is maybe Korean or some other country.  Has anyone ever seen this before and/or have any idea what it is?  The piece measures about 2-1/8" x 3/4" x 1/8".

Any help is greatly appreciated.  Now to the pictures......

Offline Mr-Panda

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 20
  • Karma: 0
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2016, 09:46:07 PM »
Obverse Details.......

Offline Mr-Panda

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 20
  • Karma: 0
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2016, 09:46:43 PM »
Reverse Details......

Offline dennisma77

  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 233
  • Karma: 1
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #3 on: October 10, 2016, 10:50:52 PM »
It is 50g lunar bar made by jeweler.

Offline Mr-Panda

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 20
  • Karma: 0
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #4 on: October 10, 2016, 10:52:34 PM »
I see.  Any idea what the value might be on a piece like this?

Offline Mr-Panda

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 20
  • Karma: 0
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #5 on: October 10, 2016, 11:09:10 PM »
Also, this piece has a significantly elaborate security item in the upper right of the obverse.  I am curious what jeweler would be able to produce this, and at what cost.  Has anyone seen this particular piece or anything even close to similar before?  Also, does anyone have the ability to read the symbols on the piece?

Offline silberschatzimsee

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 112
  • Karma: 4
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #6 on: October 10, 2016, 11:56:25 PM »
Is that security feature some kind of laser engraving in rainbowcolours? Then i only now argor-hareus and canadian mint doing that.

Offline Mr-Panda

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 20
  • Karma: 0
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #7 on: October 10, 2016, 11:59:06 PM »
Yes, that's exactly what it is.  So is this a private individual that had this made?  This is the only piece I have personally seen.  It comes in an exact fit capsule that is seemingly designed specifically for this piece.  I am hoping to know exactly where it came from and what its value might be.  Can anyone help?

Offline silberschatzimsee

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 112
  • Karma: 4
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2016, 12:19:55 AM »
With that laser etching it must come from a big mint with advanced technology, it cant be from the average jeweller.

I mentioned the 2 mints i know capable of doing that. Made you some quick shots of my small example in my "gropebox"








Those Kinebars carry a bit of a premium. I would roughly estimate yours also maybe with 4% extra for that security feature. If you off course find more about there should be some room for more extra value of course.


Offline Mr-Panda

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 20
  • Karma: 0
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2016, 12:25:24 AM »
I unfortunately don't have the piece in my hand at the moment to take a picture of the security feature in better lighting conditions than previously, but it isn't exactly like the pieces you have shown.  It is interesting that a big mint would make a piece like this.  Is there any reason for making a piece like this?  Would there be any estimate at all on how many pieces exist like this?  Can anyone just call the mint and provide a design for them to make?

Offline silberschatzimsee

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 112
  • Karma: 4
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2016, 12:49:23 AM »
Do you mean it has not the dancing horse or its not laser etched like mine?

The dancing horse is specially made for the austrian mint. If you move the bar arround, the horse also moves up and down. Other countries have other designs but they are all manufactured in switzerland.

Only the canadians also have some kind of same feature within their privymark.

  

Offline Mr-Panda

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 20
  • Karma: 0
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2016, 12:52:23 AM »
I really need to check the piece again.  I will try to post more info tomorrow when I can get the piece in my hands.

Offline silberschatzimsee

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Jr. Member
  • **
  • Posts: 112
  • Karma: 4
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2016, 01:03:37 AM »

Offline Mr-Panda

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 20
  • Karma: 0
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2016, 01:09:15 AM »
Here are some additional photos of the piece I am interested in knowing more about.  Please notice the security feature in the upper right corner on the front of the piece.  As you rock the piece back and forth the symbol inside the square actually changes between at least 3 symbols.  It was difficult to photograph this change in the symbols, but I hope it is clear enough to identify in the attached pictures.

Again, ANY information on this piece would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You.

Offline moosician

  • Supporter
  • Trade Count: (+20)
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 296
  • Karma: 11
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #14 on: October 12, 2016, 10:25:29 AM »
Chow Tai Fook, a well known Hong Kong Jeweler made this bar. Nothing really numismatic about it, however its to commemorate a year of the goat.

http://www.chowtaifook.com/en

Offline Mr-Panda

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 20
  • Karma: 0
Re: Anyone Able to Explain What this is?
« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2016, 12:53:26 PM »
Any idea of a general premium (if any) I could ask for on a piece like this?