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Offline Flacko

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Can you help to identify
« on: June 17, 2016, 11:18:02 PM »
Hi, i Have some coins that i would like you help me to identify and ley me know if this is a good coin
Thanks in avance for all your help. This time i attached 3 different coins but i Have also others

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Re: Can you help to identify
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2016, 07:41:26 AM »
Hi and welcome to CCF.
These are low quality fake coins IMO.

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Re: Can you help to identify
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2016, 08:59:08 AM »
I agree they are not genuine.

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Re: Can you help to identify...Not Genuine but Identified
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2016, 01:02:25 PM »
Hello Flacko,

I agree with previous posted answers: coins are all replicas or counterfeits. As to their identification:

The first coin is a replica of an incredibly rare 1905 commemorative coin for the seventieth birthday of Dowager Empress CiXi discussed with genuine weight and dimensions here:
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=11538.msg66955#msg66955

The second coin is a fantasy / counterfeit 1904 Hu-peh tael. A genuine specimen should weigh 37.7g.
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/china-hupeh-province-tael-y-128-1-30(1904)-cuid-44001-duid-125561

The third coin is a fantasy / counterfeit Yuan Shih-Kai yuan denomination coin with a 1917 mint obverse date and an improbable five yuan denomination on the reverse face. But numismatic authorities recognize only coins with mint dates 1914, 1919-1921 as authentic, regardless of actual minting. Genuine coins issued with one yuan denominations with a standardized 26.73g weight, but with considerable weight variations over time. There are multiple discussion thread in this forum.
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=4460.0
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=4399.0
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=4330.0

Authentic Chinese coin studies are a historically long and vast subject. The existence of unauthentic coins is widespread. Some of them, like your specimens are still beautiful. You have good taste in coins. You only need authentic sources. Members on this forum can help. Just ask before you buy.

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Re: Can you help to identify
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2016, 01:32:09 PM »
Hello Flacko,

I agree with previous posted answers: coins are all replicas or counterfeits. As to their identification:

The first coin is a replica of an incredibly rare 1905 commemorative coin for the seventieth birthday of Dowager Empress CiXi discussed with genuine weight and dimensions here:
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=11538.msg66955#msg66955

The second coin is a fantasy / counterfeit 1904 Hu-peh tael. A genuine specimen should weigh 37.7g.
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/china-hupeh-province-tael-y-128-1-30(1904)-cuid-44001-duid-125561

The third coin is a fantasy / counterfeit Yuan Shih-Kai yuan denomination coin with a 1917 mint obverse date and an improbable five yuan denomination on the reverse face. But numismatic authorities recognize only coins with mint dates 1914, 1919-1921 as authentic, regardless of actual minting. Genuine coins issued with one yuan denominations with a standardized 26.73g weight, but with considerable weight variations over time. There are multiple discussion thread in this forum.
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=4460.0
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=4399.0
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=4330.0

Authentic Chinese coin studies are a historically long and vast subject. The existence of unauthentic coins is widespread. Some of them, like your specimens are still beautiful. You have good taste in coins. You only need authentic sources. Members on this forum can help. Just ask before you buy.

+1, excellent comments.