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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #150 on: February 16, 2015, 05:00:32 AM »
Those are great finds. I was extremely happy to snatch two fen coins 1959 and 1961 in unc quality for 25 euro. When the coins arrived I was jumping with joy that those were unc indeed. This will be my best buy of the year 2015, so I can understand you well.
By the way, we can make exchange if you are not collecting fen variants.
I can offer 5 fen 1980 and 1 fen 1979 plus some more coins or $50 for your 1 fen 1979 from the set. ( or 5 and 2 fen 1980 and 1 fen 1979 for 1 fen 1979 and $50)

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #151 on: February 16, 2015, 05:58:50 AM »
Congratulations on your finds as well aragog. I sent you a private e-mail discussing the trade you offered. Let me know if you don't receive it.

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #152 on: February 19, 2015, 05:36:19 AM »
I am doing a bit of research on the different issues of the 1, 2 and 5 Fen coins regarding which coins were struck with the modern font on the character for Fen and which coins were struck with the stylized font. Here are the varieties I have uncovered so far:

1 FEN
1955 (MODERN)
1956 (MODERN)
1957 (MODERN)
1958 (MODERN)
1959 (MODERN)
1961 (MODERN)
1963 (MODERN)
1964 (MODERN)
1971 (MODERN)
1972 (STYLIZED)
1973 (MODERN)
1974 (STYLIZED)
1975 (MODERN)
1976 (STYLIZED)
1977 (MODERN)
1978 (STYLIZED)
1979 (MODERN & STYLIZED)
1980 (MODERN & STYLIZED)
1981 (STYLIZED)
1982 (MODERN & STYLIZED)
1983 (STYLIZED)
1984 (STYLIZED)
1985 (MODERN)
1986 (MODERN)
1987 (MODERN)
1991 (MODERN)
2000 (STYLIZED)
2005 (MODERN)
2006 (MODERN)
2007 (MODERN)
2008 (MODERN)
2009 (MODERN)
2010 (MODERN)
2011 (MODERN)
2012 (MODERN)
2013 (MODERN)


2 FEN
ALL MODERN. PLUS THE FOLLOWING:

1981 (STYLIZED) – PROOF ONLY ISSUES
1982 (STYLIZED) – PROOF ONLY ISSUES
1983 (STYLIZED) – PROOF ONLY ISSUES
1984 (STYLIZED) – PROOF ONLY ISSUES


5 FEN
1955 (MODERN)
1956 (MODERN)
1957 (MODERN)
1974 (STYLIZED)
1976 (STYLIZED)
1979 (STYLIZED)
1980 (STYLIZED)
1981 (STYLIZED)
1982 (STYLIZED)
1983 (MODERN & STYLIZED)
1984 (STYLIZED)
1985 (MODERN)
1986 (MODERN)
1987 (MODERN)
1988 (MODERN)
1989 (MODERN)
1990 (MODERN)
1991 (MODERN)
1992 (MODERN)

If anyone knows of any additions to this list, please post which varieties are available that are not on this list (and provide pictures if possible for confirmation).

Thanks

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #153 on: February 19, 2015, 10:03:08 AM »
David, are you aware of the research on the Fen varieties in China, for example this article?
http://www.coin001.com/read.php?tid=10736

By looking at the pictures, you can have some idea what varieties are being discussed.

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #154 on: February 20, 2015, 06:01:14 AM »
Hi fwang, thanks for the info. Unfortunately, I don't read Chinese so I'm not really sure what all of the symbols in the chart mean. From what I can surmise, the coins marked as "P" in the chart are from the Shenyang mint, with the modern font of the word for Fen and the coins marked as "T" are from the Shanghai mint, with the stylized font. However, I have no idea what the "H" is supposed to represent, so if you could, I would very much appreciate your help in explaining it to me. Also, please explain what the symbols before the letters mean (such as the solid star, the hollow star and the ※symbol).

It is apparent that I got rather close in my research, although I seem to have missed a few, including all of the proof & mint set only issues from 1992 to 2000, for which I didn't have adequate information on which to make a determination. Thanks again for your help.

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #155 on: February 20, 2015, 07:33:54 AM »
H from years 1972 and 1978 is just a variant different from other two, "hybrid" or "mixed", as google translates it. The coins seem to be from Shanghai mint.

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #156 on: February 20, 2015, 09:28:13 PM »
Thanks aragog, I examined my coins from those years and although there is a noticeable difference in the tail on the lower right side of the symbol for Fen on the 1972 coin, the tail on the 1978 looks like the ones from Shenyang, although the left side wheat stalk looks more like those from the Shanghai mint. Interestingly, the tail on the 1972 looks different than the ones from both mints, since it truly seems to be a hybrid between the two designs.

The most interesting thing about this whole subject is that it appears that in most years, the 1 and 5 Fen coins were produced at one mint but not the other, and with the exception of the four proof coins from 1981 to 1984, all of the two Fen coins seem to have only been struck at Shenyang. I definitely appreciate the help, since I enjoy learning as much as I can, even if I don't intend on actually collecting the differing varieties. I am happy enough just to have as complete of a date collection as I can get (I know I can't afford some of the proof only issues, especially in the Great Wall coins and the proof & mint sets from the 1991 to 2000 period).

I already have a complete collection (by date) of all of the 1, 2 and 5 Fen coins that actually circulated, most of which are in uncirculated condition. As I've mentioned earlier, I only have four coins that need upgrading to uncirculated condition (three 1 Fen coins and one 2 Fen coin) if I can afford to do so. On my budget, it may eventually be possible for me to acquire all of the proof and mint set only issues in the Fen denominations at some point, but I doubt very seriously I'll ever be able to afford the 1985 2 Jiao coin or the larger denominations (Jiao and Yuan coins) from the 1986 set, but I will be happy with simply acquiring those that I can actually afford to buy eventually.

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #157 on: February 24, 2015, 07:10:10 AM »
Hello, does anyone in this forum know whether or not the 1 Jiao and 1 Yuan coins dated 2014 have been released for circulation? I have a 2014 5 Jiao coin, but I can't seem to locate the other two denominations for my collection as of yet.

Thanks

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #158 on: March 16, 2015, 04:44:19 PM »
Does any one know whether or not there will be 2015 fen coin coming out from China?

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #159 on: March 17, 2015, 03:06:22 PM »
I just found a one Fen coin from 1961 in my drawer. It's in a very good condition and is enclosed in a paper/plastic window coin holder. What could the value be? and should I sell or keep. Could sure use the money if it has any value to speak of.
Happy for all and any help!

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #160 on: March 17, 2015, 03:18:01 PM »
Hi, Svenja, the 1961 1 Fen is a valuable coin, the value depends on condition, if this coin in MS67, the value could be as high as 18000 Yuan, which is about 3,000 U.S. dollar.

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #161 on: March 17, 2015, 03:56:52 PM »
Thank you VERY MUCH for your info. Where would be a good place to sell it??

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #162 on: March 17, 2015, 06:13:43 PM »
This your specific coin has value about $5.Or with somepatience and luckyou can sell it for double price, but moreprobably for $1.

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #163 on: March 18, 2015, 03:33:06 AM »
Thank you for your important info. As I am new to this, why the big difference in the 2 estimated values?????.

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Re: Peoples Repulic of China Fen coins
« Reply #164 on: March 18, 2015, 04:56:42 AM »
The information for price from pjleung is correct as well, and if there were even better condition coin I think it would cost even more, up to $10000. But it is price for graded coins from NGC or PSGC and the highest grades that only few coins can get. But basically there millions of those coins from circulation that except for 1 fen 1957 are more or less common and quite affordable