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Tokens / Re: Yong Yuan Co. tokens
« Last post by pandamonium on Yesterday at 11:10:25 PM »
1912 AU 55 Token  copper?   $1,564  SOLD     another big price

KONDI, i may have a pair of these same design.    If i remember correctly there was a post of these horse tokens being fakes.  Did they fake these tokens?    They were once very cheap so it seems like a long shot fakes were made.......
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General Discussion / Re: Small proof gold pandas
« Last post by pandamonium on Yesterday at 05:22:26 PM »
1994 G25Y PR 69 1/4 Proof Gold Panda   $685 SOLD bids   

Did RCC sell these 2 big gold?   no longer available w/ RCC usually means sold...
1993 5 Taels PR 67 Zhao Gongming   $19,000
1988 G500Y PF 68 5 oz Gold Panda    $14,475

Rueters   "Less than half the gold sent to refiners come from miners; LBMA"
Over 1/2 is from recycled jewelry, coins and bars.   Past articles say the poor and middle class must sell to pay bills so the wealthy can buy.   Rich get richer......
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Buy, Sell & Trade / SELLING: Old Shanghai Tokens
« Last post by KONDi on Yesterday at 03:34:07 AM »
Dear collectors,

I has been a while since I posted something here. I got some difficulties to access this great forum from China. I am glad I can access it better now but it's not perfect.

I have some old Shanghai tokens for sell. I will post first 4 tokens. If someone is interested you can contact me by email or on Wechat: KONDi84

1) Shanghai Telephone Company brass token from old Shanghai from 1930s, VF condition, asking price 25 USD
2) The Oriental Ice Company Limited 10 LBS token issued in 1912, VF-XF condition, it's copper-nickel variety with circle countermark on obverse, very rare one, asking price 320 USD
3) Dai Far brass token 20 cents XF condition, asking price 300 USD
4) Good for 20 coppers 1925 brass old Shanghai token, VF condition, asking price 180 USD

More listing on the next day...

Cheers from China - hope everyone is safe and healthy!
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Tokens / Re: Yong Yuan Co. tokens
« Last post by KONDi on Yesterday at 03:12:04 AM »
I am happy to be back too. I wish this great forum works here in China better. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.

Show me what you got there in your Chinese junk box. I might buy something to my collection.

Anyway, thanks for nice talking and let's see I can make some new post in the near future.

Best wishes from China N39,

KONDi, 2020.09.22, 15:11 local Beijing time
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Tokens / Re: Yong Yuan Co. tokens
« Last post by pandamonium on September 21, 2020, 05:17:47 PM »
Great to see you are back KONDI.    I had no clue how high in value these tokens would go.    You knew the score years ago.
Back then, not many of us could see the value in tokens but we do now...

Looked at my records and will dig out my Chinese junk boxes.   Due to your posts i picked up these tokens...
1930's bus token
brass telephone token
Shanghai LGO Co LTD tokens  maybe 3
Do not know condition yet but i got them for very cheap way back when.     May have others packed away from about 9 to 10 yrs ago.    Will have a look into the boxes soon and maybe post photos...

Your past posts/photos were very valuable so i can compare what i have to them, then ask questions....  ($1,173 SOLD!!, wow)

I do not have smart phone, just computer and Wechat will eventually be outlawed in the US.    Sunday was last day but court put in a injunction so i think it still works for now...
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Tokens / Re: Yong Yuan Co. tokens
« Last post by KONDi on September 21, 2020, 11:24:28 AM »
Dear pandemonium,

Of course I was right, it was just matter of time when Old Shanghai tokens will rise. I was watching this auction actually and I was wondering how high it can go when the same seller on ebay sold similar 5 cents only bus goes right PCGS MS62 for 710 USD. So these tokens are rising now and prices are 3-4 more times what it was 5 years ago.

I hope I am still a member of this great platform. I miss you guys too!
Actually, from time to time I am able to open this China-mint but in China VPN is a must to open foreign websites and I don't have one.

Many old and new members wrote to me and I am sorry I wasn't able to answer because access to the website is difficult for me and also a lot of work. If someone wants to ask me about my opinion and have some Yuan Shih Kai silver dollar or old Shanghai token. You can scan QR code and add me on Wechat. So who wants some old Shanghai token contact me. Add me on wechat is the best option at the moment.

- KONDi (2020.09.21) 11:23 Beijing time - I am still here, didn't get kill by COViD yet! N16

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Modern Chinese Medals / Re: chinese medal
« Last post by pandamonium on September 21, 2020, 08:04:01 AM »
There are many Sample collectors and it seems the collector base is growing.    Samples were once ignored but I was told many are rare.   Many collectors/dealers have diversified into other Chinese besides gold panda coins which is a very good if not top choice.
Which silver panda did you see in a Sample?.....
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Tokens / Re: Yong Yuan Co. tokens
« Last post by pandamonium on September 21, 2020, 08:00:06 AM »
Years ago, KONDI was once a member and a token expert.     Back then tokens were not taken seriously.    Where are you KONDI?

1939 5C MS 63 bus token      $1,173 SOLD bids     ebay 333720943291      big price


KONDI was right all along, it took time for tokens to rise in value.     $1,173?   Who would have ever thought these prices would arrive?.....
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Modern Chinese Medals / Re: chinese medal
« Last post by PandaCollector on September 20, 2020, 02:18:41 PM »


Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
China Pricepedia — Chinese Coin Prices and More
The Gold & Silver Panda Coin Buyer’s Guide
Home of the Valentine Panda
www.pandacollector.com
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Modern Chinese Medals / Re: chinese medal
« Last post by PandaCollector on September 20, 2020, 01:31:40 PM »
SAMPLES are usually cheap, aluminum, brass, high mintage that are slabbed by NGC and given away at certain coin shows.    A dealer in China said usually 100 to 500 mintage.     
There are collectors of Samples.    Have seen some Samples on ebay that get many bids.   
Photo of 2016 US Mex Sample.     A past dealer had one listed on ebay and he was a avid coin collector/dealer/coin show attendee.    He says this is the rare one w/ 30 mintage.       Fact? Fiction?     I see about 1 of these a year on ebay.....


In the past I was told that NGC usually asks for a quantity of at least 100 to make samples from. I have seen one, maybe two, samples with silver Pandas. There are also samples of paper money and stamps.

I collect them, too. Also, other grading companies like PCGS, GBCA and CNAG have samples, too. Mints may also give out samples although that isn't common in my experience.

Last thought, the same coin may be used for samples at multiple shows. Only the label changes.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
China Pricepedia — Chinese Coin Prices and More
The Gold & Silver Panda Coin Buyer’s Guide
Home of the Valentine Panda
www.pandacollector.com
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