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Features => Modern Chinese Coins => Chinese Lunar Coins => Topic started by: Jeru on April 30, 2013, 04:06:52 AM

Title: 2011 sons of dragon?
Post by: Jeru on April 30, 2013, 04:06:52 AM
Hello again!

If anyone of you will be kind to help me, I have a question regarding lunar dragon for the year 2011/2012.

NGC for 3626875-001 (2011) CHINA DRAGON BRASS - 90MM (http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/CertResults.aspx?CertNumber=3626875-001)
This is a 2011 brass dragon according to NGC.

But I can't get any more information and verification and confirmation about it.  So I tried to google it and here are some links I found; China 2011 Brass Medal Nine Sons of The Dragon | eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/China-2011-Brass-Medal-Nine-Sons-of-the-Dragon-/161011998319?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item257d101e6f&ssPageName=RSS%3AB%3ASHOP%3AUS%3A101&nma=true&si=o4d16pnqTdKsabRAIAV9CVBIcGI%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557), Legends of the 9 Sons of the Dragon (http://www.chinese-tea-culture.com/dragons-sons.html), and this Chinese lunar coins - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_lunar_coins) that says 2011 is the rabbit's year.

So it is really a 2012 lunar dragon, right?  But why did NGC say its 2011?
Title: Re: 2011 sons of dragon?
Post by: NBM on April 30, 2013, 06:35:38 AM
The quest for information and knowledge of Chinese numismatics is why we are all here.
I see no reason to attack a poster over her assumed affiliations.
This seems rude and uncalled for... a stain on the civility of our communion and a detriment to further positive discourse from members.
Am I wrong?
Title: Re: 2011 sons of dragon?
Post by: pandalover on April 30, 2013, 10:09:28 AM
2011 is the year the medal is issued.
since the medal do not have date on it, NGC label will use issue year .

Also it is not only the dragon year that people will issue medal for it....If you have money you can ask the mint to make a dragon medal every year.





Title: Re: 2011 sons of dragon?
Post by: Pandaguy on April 30, 2013, 11:21:15 AM
The quest for information and knowledge of Chinese numismatics is why we are all here.
I see no reason to attack a poster over her assumed affiliations.
This seems rude and uncalled for... a stain on the civility of our communion and a detriment to further positive discourse from members.
Am I wrong?

NOPE! I was thinking the exact same thing. Thank you for putting it into words.
Title: Re: 2011 sons of dragon?
Post by: comeaux on April 30, 2013, 01:35:02 PM
I see no reason to attack a poster over her assumed affiliations.

Where was the attack ... did I miss something?
Title: Re: 2011 sons of dragon?
Post by: Jeru on April 30, 2013, 07:28:27 PM
2011 is the year the medal is issued.
since the medal do not have date on it, NGC label will use issue year .

Also it is not only the dragon year that people will issue medal for it....If you have money you can ask the mint to make a dragon medal every year.

Oooohh... so NGC just got it wrong with the date then... but they got it right with the silver one 3681151-001 (2012) CHINA SITTING DRAGON WITH PEARL SILVER - 90MM (http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/CertResults.aspx?CertNumber=3681151-001).

Thank you for this help, panda lover!  It's clearer now. :)

Thank you too, NBM and Pandaguy and Comeaux! :)
Title: Re: 2011 sons of dragon?
Post by: Pandaguy on April 30, 2013, 08:01:33 PM
Where was the attack ... did I miss something?

The post was removed. Thank you Admin. for doing your job in expediant fashion.
Title: Re: 2011 sons of dragon?
Post by: dynamike51 on April 30, 2013, 08:11:22 PM
Where was the attack ... did I miss something?

I missed it as well. The "attacking" post must have been deemed inappropriate and removed as a result.
Title: Re: 2011 sons of dragon?
Post by: pandalover on May 01, 2013, 01:16:02 AM
no, the medal is issued in 2011 before the lunar year. It was on sell in china around Nov/2011. so if NGC label use the issue year, it will be 2011.

also "3681151-001" is in silver,   "3626875-001 " is in brass.
their issue date is different (according to my search in google).
brass is released earlier..
silver is releases in Apr 2012.

If my info is correct, both label is correct.






Oooohh... so NGC just got it wrong with the date then... but they got it right with the silver one 3681151-001 (2012) CHINA SITTING DRAGON WITH PEARL SILVER - 90MM (http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/CertResults.aspx?CertNumber=3681151-001).

Thank you for this help, panda lover!  It's clearer now. :)

Thank you too, NBM and Pandaguy and Comeaux! :)
Title: Re: 2011 sons of dragon?
Post by: Jeru on May 01, 2013, 01:22:29 AM
Oh, so I totally did not get it.  :laugh:

Thanks for correcting me  :001_smile: I really appreciate it.