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Main => Other Specialized Topics => HongKong & Macau Coins => Topic started by: PandaOrLunar on March 09, 2013, 09:44:44 PM

Title: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on March 09, 2013, 09:44:44 PM
Difference between Crown and Sovereign? 

Difference between Crown X#7b and Crown X#P17?

Difference between Crown (Gold X#7c) and Sovereign (Gold X#8)?

Difference between Crown (Silver X#7b, Silver X#P17) and Sovereign (Silver X#8a)?

Got photography images of the items?

Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on March 27, 2013, 09:55:46 PM
Difference between Crown and Sovereign?  
A:  Good old Internet...google and wikipedia  :001_smile:

Difference between Crown X#7b and Crown X#P17?
A:  Believe X#P17 is piedfort.  More research is required.  Weight, thinkness, edge (smooth or reeded), ...

Difference between Crown (Gold X#7c) and Sovereign (Gold X#8)?
A:  Don't have an answer yet.  More research is required.

Difference between Crown (Silver X#7b, Silver X#P17) and Sovereign (Silver X#8a)?
A:  So far, weight appears to be the big differentiator between the three (X#7b = "regular", X#P17 = piedfort, X#8a = 4.4199g).  More research is required.


This topic welcomes any CCF members with information to share as not much is known (at least I'm still learning)  N25
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on April 02, 2013, 10:43:58 PM
Sharing.  Different packaging inserts.
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on June 19, 2013, 11:14:18 PM
I'm hearing from multiple people that the weight is inconsistent and can be plus/minus 0.2 to 0.7 gram even for the same medal.  Example, one X#7b medal could weight x.2 grams and another X#7b medal could weigh x.9 grams.

Comment?
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on September 13, 2013, 08:31:00 PM
Sharing Nickel vs. Silver.


Left:  Cu-Ni Zinc PF68UC

Right:  Silver PF68UC
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on September 14, 2013, 11:23:10 PM
Given the nickel and silver appears to be very similar, anyone know the silver content of X7B?

If X7B is produced via spec according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_(British_coin) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_(British_coin)), then it is mostly to be 0.50 silver composition?  Then what is the other 50%?


For X7A, what percentage each is Copper, Nickel, and Zinc?
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on September 15, 2013, 12:10:27 AM
Krause catalog has X7B at 0.9167 Silver.  Hmm.
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on October 22, 2013, 02:21:12 AM
Any comment on why one is stamped with "TM 375 for 9ct"?  Is it after market? 

Is this medal considers as an official government minted medal?  If not, is there such a thing as after market?
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on December 14, 2014, 10:05:05 PM
Bump.  Over 4,000+ read and no additional information?
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on February 21, 2015, 04:43:51 PM
http://www.wbcc-online.com/gb-fantasy/gb_fantasy.html

Silver, Bi-metallic & Tri-metallic
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: ccharles on March 11, 2015, 05:21:57 AM
I didn't find this medal in Krause catalog. The Krause catalog I read is "World coins 1901-2000, 40th Edition".
Is there any other Krause catalog have the record of this medal? Thanks.
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on March 11, 2015, 11:07:09 AM
Krause "Unusual World Coins" by Colin Bruce
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: ccharles on March 11, 2015, 11:49:46 AM
Nice~ I'll purchase it and take a look.

I'm looking for the catalog or book which contains the record of Hong Kong's tokens. Hope this catalog contains tokens information as well.
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on March 11, 2015, 03:07:19 PM
I do not recalled the book contains many information on HK tokens.  It has been a while so who know what the latest book have.
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on July 02, 2015, 04:22:49 PM
Found the pictures (Gold Crown) on the net.  Figure I included them in this post.
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on July 27, 2015, 05:01:34 PM
Sharing.  Found this on the net (X#7 Bronze).  Love to see a side-by-side pictures of this and X#7d Copper.
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on September 14, 2015, 12:02:09 AM
Sharing.  Found another pictures of gold Sovereign.
Title: Re: Hong Kong 1936 Edward VIII Fantasy Crown and Sovereign
Post by: PandaOrLunar on January 16, 2016, 02:08:03 PM
Sharing.  Both are silver.  One is toned.