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Features => Modern Chinese Coins => Chinese Lunar Coins => Topic started by: digbird on May 15, 2011, 10:41:09 PM

Title: 2009 Oxen
Post by: digbird on May 15, 2011, 10:41:09 PM
Does anyone know the mintage number for the 2009 "flower" shaped Oxen 10Y silver coin? The new 2011 guide states 6,000. Is that a typo as most others are 60,000 in the series? Thank you for any help as to the value as well. cheers...  
Title: Re: 2009 Oxen
Post by: Pandora on May 15, 2011, 11:14:42 PM
I think it is 60000. Cheers.

See http://china-mint.info/2009-chinese-coins.html
Title: Re: 2009 Oxen
Post by: digbird on May 16, 2011, 12:45:31 AM
Thank you sir...I had forgotten about that site as a reference. cheers
Title: Re: 2009 Oxen
Post by: PandaWill on May 23, 2011, 11:54:22 AM
The mintage is indeed 60k.  The flower shape coin REALLY took off - I've seen it selling for over $700 USD at shows!
Title: Re: 2009 Oxen
Post by: digbird on May 24, 2011, 10:53:08 AM
Thank you PandaWill. I've been helping another lunar collector that have several different years and there isn't much info out there. Pricepedia is a good resource, but was lacking on this particular coin. Flower coins aren't very common as compared to other coins on ebay.

Now why is this Ox coin so much more expensive that the others of this series is my next question, as they all have a mintage of 60,000? cheers
Title: Re: 2009 Oxen
Post by: Pandora on May 24, 2011, 11:31:37 AM
Some how it is established that 2009 Ox flower coins is the key to the lunar flower series (2005-2016)
Title: Re: 2009 Oxen
Post by: badon on May 24, 2011, 02:27:29 PM
I'm sure the 2012 dragon will top it.
Title: Re: 2009 Oxen
Post by: PandaCollector on May 24, 2011, 03:44:24 PM
Thank you PandaWill. I've been helping another lunar collector that have several different years and there isn't much info out there. Pricepedia is a good resource, but was lacking on this particular coin.

Why? The 2009 flower ox is listed in Pricepedia with the mintage and a recent dealer price. No auctions of it lately, though, not even in China. Just curious what you are looking for and thanks for any input. Oh yes, last fall the Pricepedia showed it selling in China for $550-$600 when it could still be bought in the U.S. for $375. It was a good clue to where the price was headed.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: 2009 Oxen
Post by: Pandora on May 24, 2011, 03:52:09 PM
APMEX says 2009 Ox is the most difficult to find in the series.
Title: Re: 2009 Oxen
Post by: digbird on May 24, 2011, 06:31:41 PM
APMEX says 2009 Ox is the most difficult to find in the series.

Hi Peter, yes we saw the $600.00 figure in Pricepedia, so went looking for completed auction prices. Myself and the owner couldn't believe our eyes and just wanted to confirm the price from past sales. Wasn't knocking the Pricepedia. We are both new to flower coins so was a learning curve for me and the owner. Couldn't believe the jump in price over the other flower coins and just wanted to verify and to find out why the difference. Any reason that you know of to make this a Key Date coin...were there less minted than what was stated or folks just hanging onto them? It was the other 2011 Chinese coin book that had the mintages wrong (misprinted) not the Pricepedia...thought I better clear that up. cheers   
Title: Re: 2009 Oxen
Post by: PandaCollector on May 24, 2011, 07:29:20 PM
I will have to research the reason the flower ox became the key, but the way prices for it took off 6 months ago made it clear to me that something was happening. This particular coin was a spur to my decision to make a lot of extra work for myself and split Panda Pricepedia's dealer prices into two categories: China and the rest of the world. There is so much to be learned from what happens in China, it's like having a crystal ball. Shortages of coins and rising prices there very frequently translate into higher prices everywhere else in short order. There's a fascinating dynamic that is at work right now.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com