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Features => Fake Chinese Coins => Topic started by: rco83 on May 23, 2016, 10:34:31 PM

Title: 2007 silver panda
Post by: rco83 on May 23, 2016, 10:34:31 PM
So I think I already know but thought I'd check. Is this a fake panda?

Cons:
Price too good to be true
Decimal seems too far away from 999
10 yuan seems angled wrong and in the wrong spot
Straight reeding

Pros:
31g
39.96 X 3.1 mm (within the margin of my caliper)
Rings like bell, high pitch and resonates

Am I being paranoid and get a good deal or am I just like so many others before me?
Title: Re: 2007 silver panda
Post by: Mirkkanen on May 23, 2016, 11:49:20 PM
The fur on the arms and legs looks wrong. This should ring an alarm bell. I have not compared it to a genuine panda to be sure, but it don't look right to me ;)

Stay away . . .
Title: Re: 2007 silver panda
Post by: rco83 on May 23, 2016, 11:50:55 PM
I was a little iffy on the fur as well but my eye couldnt really tell a difference.
Title: Re: 2007 silver panda
Post by: KeyDate1/2ozPandas on May 24, 2016, 12:12:51 AM
It is fake for sure.  On the real ones the leaf coming out of the baby panda back points between the 0 and yuan symbol.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-CHINA-SILVER-PANDA-10-YUAN-NGC-MS69-/262445444234

I buy coins sight unseen all the time, the key is not to worry about the coin being real or fake, but the trustworthiness and experience of who you are buying from. If I trust the seller I don't worry about buying fakes, because they will refund the money and let me keep the coin. 
Title: Re: 2007 silver panda
Post by: tater on May 24, 2016, 10:35:57 AM
the fur looks bad, I'd say fake
Title: Re: 2007 silver panda
Post by: r3globe on May 24, 2016, 11:20:34 AM
100% fake
Title: Re: 2007 silver panda
Post by: rco83 on May 24, 2016, 10:09:16 PM
That's what I was thinking too. You guys confirmed what I already knew but was trying to convince myself otherwise.
Title: Re: 2007 silver panda
Post by: tater on May 25, 2016, 12:08:19 AM
The ones that have been fooling me lately have been the 2003 silver pandas. Lots of good fakes out there. Any hints on how not to get stung.
Title: Re: 2007 silver panda
Post by: rco83 on May 25, 2016, 12:37:52 AM
Reputable dealers that allow returns is a good start.  This 2007 I have rings an awful lot like silver and has many other silver attributes so that was allowing my brain to trick me into thinking "oh maybe it's a different mint". I guess the premiums on pandas make it worth casting in silver.
Title: Re: 2007 silver panda
Post by: poconopenn on May 25, 2016, 01:00:56 AM
Reputable dealers that allow returns is a good start.  This 2007 I have rings an awful lot like silver and has many other silver attributes so that was allowing my brain to trick me into thinking "oh maybe it's a different mint". I guess the premiums on pandas make it worth casting in silver.

Welcome to the forum.

Actually, this is a low quality fake. Study the pictures of genuine silver pandas (1983-2015) in the following thread. The differences in 3-dimensional details between genuine and fake are quite obvious. Majority of fakes in the market are made with either silver or silver alloys with a correct weight and dimensions.
  
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=10994.0

Title: Re: 2007 silver panda
Post by: rco83 on May 25, 2016, 01:02:37 AM
Figures. I don't know much about coins or silver at the moment but am trying to learn as much as I can. 
Title: Re: 2007 silver panda
Post by: dynamike51 on May 25, 2016, 12:29:02 PM
Figures. I don't know much about coins or silver at the moment but am trying to learn as much as I can. 

Welcome, rco83.  Visit here often, as there are handful of experts on this forum - that's how I started. Be very cautious if you purchase these on eBay because counterfeits are aplenty, especially from China. What seems to be a "deal" may not be a bargain after all if you purchased a fake.