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Title: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on October 23, 2010, 01:02:44 AM
Everybody likes eye candy. Show us the most recent addition to your coin collection!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on October 23, 2010, 01:16:10 PM
(http://www.pandacollector.com/2010agri-1.jpg)(http://www.pandacollector.com/2010agri-2b.jpg)

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on October 23, 2010, 01:26:10 PM
Very nice. That's the one was getting talked about in these threads I think:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=121.0
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=394.0
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=766.0
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=923.0
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=973.0

It was particularly  difficult to get, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on October 23, 2010, 03:23:05 PM
I bought it at PandaAmerica on Thursday. They received 100 out of the 300 they had ordered. The price was a reasonable $99.99.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on October 26, 2010, 06:08:40 PM
Doesn't anyone else get new coins? Anywhere, here is a Panda that was a challenge to find, for me at least. The fun in collecting isn't necessarily to own the most expensive coin (although that's nice too!) but to locate the scarce ones. Stats: 10 Yuan 1 oz. silver Panda, Mintage 20,000, 20th Anniversary and Listing Of China CITIC Bank.

(http://www.pandacollector.com/2007CITIC1.jpg)(http://www.pandacollector.com/2007CITIC2.jpg)

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on October 27, 2010, 01:00:31 AM
Locating the scarce coins takes some time. Having the cash ready to go at the moment when a coin you want appears takes even longer! Here's today's prize:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on October 27, 2010, 01:15:27 AM
This coin is cool because the GOLD is dirty! No lie, check it out - Anything not yellow is not gold. Sometimes you get copper spots, and sometimes you get chunks of silver, steel, lead, ham and eggs, etc in your precious gold coins. Sorry it's a bit fuzzy, I need to get a better camera. You can see the gray color just fine though.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on October 27, 2010, 03:55:46 AM
For me, the impurities create an effect that resembles snow falling around the tiger. What a beautiful coin and design.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on October 27, 2010, 03:27:11 PM
Yeah, it is gorgeous. I have never seen a gold coin - or any coin - with solid impurities in it. The closest thing to it I've seen are fairly common "lamination" errors, where a layer of dirt gets rolled into the metal, and later the layer prevents bonding of the metal on both sides, so they separate and peel away like lamination on a piece of paper.

We all know about copper spots and things like that, but those are very diffuse, blended, impurities that you can't see until they start to develop a patina. In this case, these are solid chunks of something. They look to me like iron filings, but I suppose they could be almost anything. They're not struck into the coin, like a "lint mark" would be, because they have a raised burr around them.

The burr looks strange though, and I really think that a very thin layer of gold that was on top of the non-gold inclusion was lifted away from the coin in the same style as a lamination error while the die retracted. That exposed the impurity, and left a slight burr to confuse people who haven't seen it before. This coin grades PF70, so the NGC graders must have seen this before, and correctly granted a high grade. I have a metalworking background, so with some thought, I was able to figure out what these tiny grey spots were.

Lint marks never have a burr, because the pressure of the die keeps them down. All very fascinating.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: larrydreher on November 01, 2010, 06:20:53 PM
That coin seems very difficult to find.  I have one on the way from China.  Funny thing is that NGC didn't even have it in the appropriate registry set.  Last time I looked only two had been graded.  They told me they would be adding it to the registry soon.

I can't make sense out of what makes one commemorative Panda more difficult to find than another.  The mintage is certainly no indication.

Doesn't anyone else get new coins? Anywhere, here is a Panda that was a challenge to find, for me at least. The fun in collecting isn't necessarily to own the most expensive coin (although that's nice too!) but to locate the scarce ones. Stats: 10 Yuan 1 oz. silver Panda, Mintage 20,000, 20th Anniversary and Listing Of China CITIC Bank.

(http://www.pandacollector.com/2007CITIC1.jpg)(http://www.pandacollector.com/2007CITIC2.jpg)

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on November 01, 2010, 08:12:18 PM
I can't make sense out of what makes one commemorative Panda more difficult to find than another.  The mintage is certainly no indication.

I get the impression that the most action is going on in the "new" coin market. With over 3000 years of history, the Chinese people may not be as fascinated with old stuff like we Westerners are. I suppose it's an extreme version of the same phenomenon we see with ancient coins in Europe versus America. American are unfamiliar with them, and expect them to be museum pieces, whereas Europeans dig them up on a daily basis.

Chinese people seem to see greatness in their present and future, rather than their past, which I suppose makes sense considering where China stands now in comparison to their recent past. It seems the average Chinese coin buyer does not want a memento from 1985 so much as one from 2011 (http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=1158.0)!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on November 02, 2010, 01:03:32 AM
That coin seems very difficult to find.  I have one on the way from China.  Funny thing is that NGC didn't even have it in the appropriate registry set.  Last time I looked only two had been graded.  They told me they would be adding it to the registry soon.

I can't make sense out of what makes one commemorative Panda more difficult to find than another.  The mintage is certainly no indication.


It seems like these are either extraordinarily tightly held, there are bags of them still resting in a vault somewhere, or only a fraction of the authorized mintage was actually struck.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: larrydreher on November 02, 2010, 11:28:45 AM
The story I heard is that most of the coins were distrbuted to bank employees which would make them "tightly held" I guess.  The average employee might just throw them in a drawer and forget about them.  I assume there is some loyalty to the company too and dumping a company gift on the secondary market might be frowned upon.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on November 02, 2010, 01:44:28 PM
The story I heard is that most of the coins were distrbuted to bank employees which would make them "tightly held" I guess.  The average employee might just throw them in a drawer and forget about them.  I assume there is some loyalty to the company too and dumping a company gift on the secondary market might be frowned upon.

I heard that, too. However it's been three years since issuance and the coins are worth quite a bit of money — a month of wages for many probably. It seems improbable that only a couple of dozen employees, or ex-employees, out of 20,000 would have converted these into cash by now. It also is a bit peculiar that CITIC employees are so much more retentive of their gifts than employees at other banks that have had Pandas minted for them.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: larrydreher on November 02, 2010, 03:55:46 PM
I agree with all those thoughts.  That's what makes collecting these "event commemoratives" that much more interesting.  I have a feeling some with high values today now will settle down eventually.  I hate paying what I did for that coin but since I'm in it for collecting, I don't mind if a pay a little too much for a couple coins that complete my collection.

The other thing about the CITC coin is that only two have been graded and they both recieved grades lower than 68 which is unusual for recent pandas.  Does that mean that the bank employees who sell them play with them a bit first? :confused1:

Are you planning to get yours graded peter?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: shadowninja on November 02, 2010, 05:12:41 PM
Here is my newest coin:

Details:

1 Kilo
Silver Proof
Mintage: 3800

Obverse:
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/6992/reverseh.jpg)

Reverse:
(http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/3379/obverse.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on November 02, 2010, 05:20:31 PM
Nice, a 2010! Congratulations, that's a rarity. I see this is your first post, welcome to the forum! What a nice way to start!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: shadowninja on November 02, 2010, 05:30:17 PM
Nice, a 2010! Congratulations, that's a rarity. I see this is your first post, welcome to the forum! What a nice way to start!

Yeah haha, there are only a handful in the US too! Thanks!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on November 02, 2010, 06:12:31 PM
Yeah, we have been talking for some time on this forum about how hard the new coins are to get. Many of them are more valuable than the much rarer older coins. Here's another kilo coin topic:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=1158.0
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: shadowninja on November 02, 2010, 06:27:07 PM
Yeah, that's true. Since I bought this coin, the approx. value has gone to $7600.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on November 02, 2010, 06:39:28 PM
Sounds like you made a good investment. What did it cost you?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on November 02, 2010, 06:53:48 PM
I agree with all those thoughts.  That's what makes collecting these "event commemoratives" that much more interesting.  I have a feeling some with high values today now will settle down eventually.  I hate paying what I did for that coin but since I'm in it for collecting, I don't mind if a pay a little too much for a couple coins that complete my collection.

The other thing about the CITC coin is that only two have been graded and they both recieved grades lower than 68 which is unusual for recent pandas.  Does that mean that the bank employees who sell them play with them a bit first? :confused1:

Are you planning to get yours graded peter?

Probably but there's no time frame for doing it (grading). The coin I have is in excellent condition but the design has very shallow relief so the coin looks a little flat. The fields are highly polished, though, so it's a glittery thing in spite of the strange quality of the design or strike. Does yours have the box and COA? I almost bought another one that came with those but the seller reneged and returned my payment. He claimed he was robbed, but I suspect he discovered that his price was too low.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: shadowninja on November 02, 2010, 06:59:59 PM
Sounds like you made a good investment. What did it cost you?

It cost me around $4800 3 weeks ago.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on November 03, 2010, 02:01:44 AM
For me, the impurities create an effect that resembles snow falling around the tiger. What a beautiful coin and design.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com

I made some more photos of this coin that look a lot better. I put my camera on a tripod and it makes much better photos now! You can see the gray impurities much more clearly. They look like a shred of steel flung off from a grinder. I know because I once had a piece like that lodged in my eye in an industrial accident (I fully recovered in about a week). The bits are usually elongated and look "torn" at one end, and pointed at the other...or it could be a piece of moon rock for all I know.

I also took some pictures of the one post-minting blemish I could find. It's on the burr at the rim, but it's not deep enough to extend beyond the burr into the coin-proper. I suspect that might be why the coin was granted a PF 70 designation by NGC, despite what looks like a nick on the rim. The mark is so small that you can only see it with your own eyes if you can get light to reflect off of it. Otherwise, it just blends in with all the usual irregularities of the rim burr.

I am SO SURPRISED at how good of macro photos my cheap Canon SD940 can make. I can see this rim ding in the photos even better than I can see it with any of my 5X, 10X, or even 20X loupes. It's pretty clear in the photos. The camera resolution is almost exactly the same as the view through my 20X loupe, but vastly better in quality. Next time I want a good view of a detail on a coin, I'm just going to take a photo of it instead of fussing with the finicky high power loupe.

See also my postings about loupes for coins (http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=878.0), and cameras for coin photos (http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=834.0).
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: larrydreher on November 03, 2010, 03:05:30 PM
"Does yours have the box and COA?"

It should.  I guess I'll find out when I open my box from China.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Zerosum on November 06, 2010, 10:56:23 PM
Per Qwasty's request, continuation from the thread below:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=1185.0

Shipping these five coins off to NCS and NGC on Monday.

1 of 5:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Zerosum on November 06, 2010, 10:59:01 PM
2 of 5:

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Post by: Zerosum on November 06, 2010, 11:01:18 PM
3 of 5:

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Post by: Zerosum on November 06, 2010, 11:04:38 PM
4 of 5:

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Post by: Zerosum on November 06, 2010, 11:05:37 PM
5 of 5:

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on November 07, 2010, 02:49:05 AM
Wow, what great looking coins!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Zerosum on November 18, 2010, 05:39:38 PM
I bought it at PandaAmerica on Thursday. They received 100 out of the 300 they had ordered. The price was a reasonable $99.99.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com


FYI, they've still got a few of these, currently for $109. I just ordered one.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: ? on November 18, 2010, 06:43:27 PM
I'd like to add 2 coins to this collection. One is indeed my most recent but it's a medal. The other one stays longer with me but for sure one of the most beautiful coins of my collection and my lacking capabilites as a photographer do not give justice to the beauty of this coin.

greetz anwir
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: happycoins II on November 20, 2010, 09:48:45 AM
I am a big fan of asian modern coins :001_tt1:, who have been able to acquire chinese modern coins from time to time.

For this week, my top acquisition is the attached 8 gram gold 1983 lunar year of pig again after awaiting 2 years since I had sold the complete lunar 8 gram gold set. I really love it to be with me in Bangkok, Thailand. :001_wub:

Happycoins
The coins which make us happy       

 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on November 20, 2010, 11:36:55 AM
If I remember correctly, the pig is the key to the series, and one of the hardest of all modern coins to find. Congratulations on obtaining 2 of them in your lifetime!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: happycoins II on November 20, 2010, 08:51:12 PM
Wow! if the pig is that hard, I will try to get the 3rd one here in Bangkok. :lol:

By the way, the attached silver lunar year of pig also just came along yesterday.

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on November 20, 2010, 08:53:46 PM
I tried to find a pig, but I gave up. That's pretty cool you have them.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: happycoins II on November 28, 2010, 11:07:37 PM
Last week acquisition:  :001_tt1:the lunar year of rabbit, the international year of child and another hard-to-find modern coin, the 1 Oz lunar year of rooster.

Happycoins :  ;)
www.happycoins.multiply.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Zerosum on November 29, 2010, 12:51:05 AM
Ooh, let me know if you're interested in selling the rooster. I need one ;)
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Post by: happycoins II on November 29, 2010, 02:10:50 AM
Dear Zerosum,

Please give me your email address, and then let's discuss privately.

By the way, attached is another set of Chinese modern coins which just acquired by me in Bangkok, Thailand.

Happycoins :001_tt1:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on November 29, 2010, 03:30:37 AM
Wow, beautiful coins! Are you going to submit them to NCS and NGC?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: happycoins II on November 29, 2010, 03:48:30 AM
Since there are no NGC/NCS'agents in Bangkok, Thailand, where I live, I prefer to keep them as it is (no time to deal with paper work for exporting and importing).

Thanks for your concern

Happycoins :001_rolleyes:   
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: happycoins II on December 19, 2010, 09:17:55 AM
Some hard-to-find new comers for this week. :001_tt1:

Happycoins
www.happycoins.multiply.com

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on December 19, 2010, 12:09:27 PM
Those coins look really nice. Are you going to get them graded?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: happycoins II on December 19, 2010, 11:20:26 PM
No,same reason as mentioned before. :001_tt2:

By the way, my 12 oz silver dragon  :001_tt1:I acquired a year ago is also attached for your eyes'candy.   

Happycoin II
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on December 19, 2010, 11:45:17 PM
Wow, what an impressive collection - and these are just your "new" coins. WOW!
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Post by: BChung on December 20, 2010, 11:18:04 PM
u got deep pockets.... me jealous....
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Post by: BChung on December 25, 2010, 12:43:50 AM
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/9220/p1010980.jpg
http://img832.imageshack.us/i/p1010979z.jpg/

http://img691.imageshack.us/i/p1010981o.jpg/
http://img808.imageshack.us/i/p1010983y.jpg/
http://img255.imageshack.us/i/p1010985y.jpg/
http://img529.imageshack.us/i/p1010971s.jpg/
http://img204.imageshack.us/i/p1010975h.jpg/
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: happycoins II on December 28, 2010, 09:50:45 AM
5oz silver medals,1988 Hong Kong 7th International Exhibition and 1989 Guan Yin Goddess.
5oz silver coin, Y#108 1986 the 120th Aniversary-Birth of Sun Yat-Sen.

Happycoins II
 :001_wub: :001_tt1:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: ? on January 22, 2011, 01:54:56 PM
Rabbits :001_cool:

greetz anwir
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on January 22, 2011, 03:55:36 PM
I've never liked colored coins, but those ones are impressive. How are they colored? Is it something that won't fade or rub off over time?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: rjbeck on February 01, 2011, 06:41:09 AM
I just recently finished the 2008 Beijing Olympic sets 1-2-3 These are some of my favorites
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Post by: badon on February 01, 2011, 10:06:33 PM
Nice photos. I normally don't like colored coins, but these look great. Are they enamel, or something durable like that? The early colored coins looked like a printer of some sort, and they were horribly ugly. Kind of like looking into the eyes of someone with fake colored contacts - they just creep you out.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: rjbeck on February 02, 2011, 02:13:32 AM
I've never liked colored coins, but those ones are impressive. How are they colored? Is it something that won't fade or rub off over time?
Colored coins were my least favorite until the Chinese opera coins and the Outlaws of the Marsh series came out. The color is screen printed or pad printed looking at them thru a magnifier it has the look of being enameled. They did a very good job.
I did have a problem with a hologram coin from the Australian mint. When I removed the coin from the capsule I touched the hologram by accident and it removed some of the printing and ruined the coin.I always like to see the coin out of it's holder to me it's night and day in appearance. RB
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on February 02, 2011, 11:14:02 AM
It sound
When I removed the coin from the capsule I touched the hologram by accident and it removed some of the printing and ruined the coin.I always like to see the coin out of it's holder to me it's night and day in appearance. RB

It sounds like you pay dearly for the privilege! I'm satisfied with them in a safe and secure NGC holder. Then I can let anybody look at them without much worry of damage.
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on February 17, 2011, 01:27:34 AM
Hello, I'm new here but i have been a silent reader for a while now and i think this forum is great with full of information from the experts. I'm a chinese gold coins collector and would like to share some of my personal collection with all of you.

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1995YellowRiverCulture1.jpg)

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1995YellowRiverCulture2.jpg)


This is a 1/2oz. 999.9 gold from the famous 1995 Yellow River Culture series with mintage of 2500 only.


Happy viewing.

Andrew
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Post by: KonaJim on February 17, 2011, 02:20:35 AM
Very nice coin Andrew.  Andrew is a very nice man and a pleasure to do business with.  I hope you all have the opportunity to get to know him.
Aloha,
Jim
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Post by: PandaCollector on February 17, 2011, 04:34:09 AM
Gorgeous coin, Andrew. Thanks for sharing it.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on February 17, 2011, 09:52:18 AM
Welcome to our forum! That's one of the nicest coin photos I've seen in a while. Great job on the coin, and the photo. I haven't collected the Yellow River Culture coins, but seeing such a gorgeous photo does spark my interest.
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Post by: canadian on February 17, 2011, 10:10:00 AM
WOW!, nice pictures.
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on February 17, 2011, 10:57:39 AM
Thank you very much guys for your kind words. And now i would like to share with you  the following :-

REV : TWO FLOATING DRAGONS  1oz. 1988, (GRADED BY NGC PF69)
Subject : Year Of The Dragon, Obv : Temple of Heaven, KM #196, 100 Yuan, 31.132gm, 1oz. 0.9990, Gold 0.9999oz. AGW, Series : 1988 Lunar Year
Proof Mintage : 10,000.


(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/Dragon1988A.jpg)

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/Dragon1988B.jpg)


And follow by my Colorized golds collection in a show case.


(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/Zcollection.jpg)


Happy Viewing !

Andrew











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Post by: DiggingNorway on February 24, 2011, 06:56:42 PM
Here are my newest!
I dont know much about them other than they are called outstanding historical figures and I thought they were so awsome that I could not resist to pick up everyone the coinshop had at 30 USD each...

Would love to find a comprehensive guide/collection overview of them though...

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RafPV2H7JKY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RafPV2H7JKY)

I love them!

DiggingNorway
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Post by: r3globe on March 04, 2011, 02:57:35 PM
Hey DiggingNorway, I watch your videos. Chinese coins are my new addiction (it was silver before). $30 for those coins are a STEAL :) You can sell them for double on ebay if you wanted to. I am sure you won't. Enjoy them and keep up the good work with your vids.
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Post by: DiggingNorway on March 04, 2011, 03:20:19 PM
Hi  :001_smile:
Thank you for your kind words.
I actually added to the collection today.
I have two series ( I have found at)
The historical figueres series
The Traditional Culture Series

I have now completed 1995 Culture series (5 coins silver 5 yuan)
(thats the ones with the great wall)
I have three 1997, so I lack two.
The series was only made in 1995 and 1997, so 10 coins all together.

The historical figueres series is much bigger, 10 years with 4 coins each year. I did add s few today as well.

Alltogether the latest coins increased the average (had to buy from a dealer I hate.. too expensive and very little info on their web-page so basically you have to buy "blind"...) My average for this series is now is 36 USD...

The coins are very nice :) I am not sure if they sell for that much on ebay though... I see some of them are priced over 100USD but they dont move.. some do, but there are great spreads... I dont care really... the coins are very very nice, much more exciting details than the pandas...

best of luck to you in your collecting :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on March 04, 2011, 03:30:44 PM
I think you are "ahead" of the market right now. That is why you are getting them so cheap. Most Chinese coin buyers are probably so focused on the hot and popular chinese coins (pandas,dragons,horses,..etc). Those hot coins have a much wider appeal. As the market matures, people will start looking for other series to collect. I think the 1997 series has 35,000 mintage and the 1995 20,000 mintage. These are GREAT prices you are paying.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 04, 2011, 03:44:22 PM
shhhhh dont tell anyone :w00t:
the historical figuere series has 8000 and even claims of around 5500 mintage certain years ;)

BUT: ofcourse I am looking to sell in the chjinese market in 20 years or so, purely based on demographics, BUT: Noone knows the future preferences of the collectors market in China... I certainly do not. The stage is set for a huge collectors market in China in the long run... huge. After the population has covered their basic needs, they will start to collect painting, arts, stamps, coins, what ever.. but this is a "tertiary" demand, first we will have to see 200 million more being lifted up from industrial working class to middle class and uppermiddle class. Then its very simple mathematics. However, some of this effect is already priced in to coins..

I read some very very msart words here on the forum, I dont remeber who said it, but I belive it is crucial: The profit in numismatics is not done when you sell a coin, its done when you buy one.
Thus: as I say in my videos (even though I am drunk in half of them) my strategy is to SAVE (i.e. postpone consumption) have liquidity and wait for the offers. (OK, the last increase did not follow that strategy, but I got some key dates with low mintage and my average is still good). In Norway, I can play the assymetric information game, not much interest in chinese coins here and dealers dont know their value. As a result some dealers price too low, some too high.


Its friday! Hope you are having a beer too :) I have spent two days in an extremely booring work shop with economic historians about financial crises and been presented articled for a book... gosh these guys are idiots. It was so booring that after one presenter (from the US ) was finished I took the word and showed them a chineese silver coin and basically told them that the current bubble is in currencuies...(they hadent thought about it!!) they were still arguing about how to define a "financial crises" that could fit to their model and timeseries... they laughed at me... and that gave me great joy! you might say that a positive externality added to the utility I got from picking up the coins at the post office this morning...
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Post by: r3globe on March 04, 2011, 03:59:07 PM
Interesting; these are really good mintages. You should post more pics or make another video about them. In the US, you can still buy Chinese coins because the dealers don't understand them yet. The interest in Chinese coins made me more interested in the Chinese culture. That is a culture with a lot of depth and history. I don't drink;I am enjoying my healthy GREEn smoothie full of vegetables :O Enjoy your weekend.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 04, 2011, 04:11:33 PM
beer is a crucial part of European Culture and History (for at least 1000 years, not comparable to the US society)one last interesting point: at ny business school we have many chinese young aspiring students from affluent homes. One girl (which saw the coins) knew the history by heart (all the figueres on the coins; she could tell me the story and biography about the person on them) HOWEVER: she had never ever seen the coins before, she didnt even know they excisted! And this girl is an active equity-speculator!

My bet is that affluent future chinese (with strong bounds to a country woth a history dating back thouands of years) will appriciate these rare coins in the future.

I dont want to bore my subcribers with more coin-movies.... my channels is about metal detecting and Scandinavian history... have a nice week-end :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on March 04, 2011, 04:23:14 PM
I read some very very msart words here on the forum, I dont remeber who said it, but I belive it is crucial: The profit in numismatics is not done when you sell a coin, its done when you buy one.

That might have been me. I say "You make money when you buy, not when you sell", or something like that.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 04, 2011, 04:38:45 PM
I think its very good advice. the numismatic dealers have a huge spred between buy and sell, at the same time they have alot of capital locked into working capital... so I always bargain. Always.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on March 04, 2011, 05:24:43 PM
Well,post pics here then if you don't want to post them on youtube. I don't know if you realized this yet, but badon is THE authority on Chinese coins. I learned TONS from him in the past few days. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on March 04, 2011, 05:39:06 PM
Well,post pics here then if you don't want to post them on youtube. I don't know if you realized this yet, but badon is THE authority on Chinese coins. I learned TONS from him in the past few days. 

I'm definitely the most talkative one, but there are others! This forum is jam-packed with Chinese coin experts in all different areas and specialties. I focus on the investing side of things. Still, thanks for the compliment :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on March 04, 2011, 05:44:12 PM
Somebody just made a ton of money on Peter's shared expertise, for example:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=2353.msg8290#msg8290
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 04, 2011, 06:25:53 PM
my channel is a metal detecting channel, so this clip is "hidden", but I post it here to show the latest additions to the 5 yuan silver series..

cheers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrVtXfuUcBo
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on March 04, 2011, 07:07:04 PM
I just finished watching it. Thanks for sharing all that info. I bookmarked those sites. If you come across any sites that sell chinese coins (other than ebay), let me know. Don't worry so much whether people are interested or not in what you have to talk about. You are sharing your passions and people will watch.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on March 04, 2011, 10:35:40 PM
my channel is a metal detecting channel, so this clip is "hidden", but I post it here to show the latest additions to the 5 yuan silver series..

cheers!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrVtXfuUcBo

When you were showing your favorite Chinese coin websites, you started with this one, and I got so excited when you went looking for another one to show - I guess I was hoping my articles at LBC would make it into your video!

Very enjoyable to watch your videos by the way. Sometimes I want a break from reading and replying, you know?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 05, 2011, 07:50:57 AM
A picture tells a thousand word or something... I'm nit sure what LBC is... I just showed the sites that had helped me a lot identifying the coins,,
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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 07, 2011, 11:54:38 AM
I am very excited
I just bought a 5 yuan 1/20 oz gold panda 1998 for 90 USD from a coindealer in a city west of the capitol.
I dont know if its a large or small date yet, I didnt want to ask, I just wanted them to send it ASAP while still holding my breath and hide my exicitment on the phone... They must have priced this one seriuosly wrong?? :confused1:

I also picked up a 1997 1/20 oz for 80 USD... It will arrive in a couple of days and I'll post some photos...

I do have a good feeling about this one though  :drool:
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Post by: r3globe on March 07, 2011, 12:26:33 PM
It looks like you are doing some "urban"/"telephone" treasure hunting :) Are they mint sealed?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 07, 2011, 12:40:36 PM
No, they are in capsules. I have never seen a mint sealed or PCGS/NCG sealed panda here in Norway.-
They are sold from a numistmatic shop with many many years experience, so I guess they would spot a fake one, but you never know..... I have never seen a fake panda here in Norway, if it turns out to be fake I can always return them and get my money back, its a small country  :biggrin:

It doesent seem like many of the coin shops are participating in the panda marked or giving it alot of attention, many times they buy them for gold/silver spot + whatever margin the seller can argue for and the dealer belive he can push forward, and sell them with their normal margin to move coins fast.

One do add extra margins for pandas (they are too high many of them in my opinion; I dont want to pay 100 USD for silver 2008 panda! however this is only one shop, and I try not to do business with them as their policy seems to be - "lets just pump up the price and with time it will be sold" (that way they dont have to adjust their prices so often and they have thousands of thousands of coins and apperantly not too concerned with their working capital since they sell modern rubbish collectorcoins of coppernickel with huge profits to clueless collectors that belives that one day, one day, that 40.000 mintage World Cup in Biathlon Copper Coin will be very valuable (and they pay 100-200 USD for it in a nice box and a "certificate" (that if you hold it too a special light reads: you've been fooled sucker)!), but few of them have any detailed knowlegde...  I'll post photos of them when they arrive

also demand is not very high either.... I pray it will sta this way for a while  :001_smile:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 07, 2011, 12:53:21 PM
thanks for the tip, I will check it out.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on March 18, 2011, 12:24:13 PM
Hello again,
I'm now posting another one of my favourite panda coin. It is a 1989 MUNICH INTERNATIONAL COIN FAIR   1/2oz. (GRADED BY PCGS PR69)Face Value : Medal Weight   : 1/2oz. Content   : .999gold Diameter : 27mm Quality   : Proof Mintage   : 1500


(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1989MunichPandaA.jpg)

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1989MunichPandaB.jpg)

Happy Viewing.

Andrew
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Post by: badon on March 18, 2011, 01:26:23 PM
Nice coin, and so rare. You take excellent photos, thanks for showing me this beautiful coin. Munich expo coins are popular, and getting more expensive very quickly.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Halves on March 20, 2011, 01:23:35 PM
1994-P 50Y
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on March 20, 2011, 01:26:36 PM
PandaHalve,
It's nice if you could provide some information about the coin.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Halves on March 20, 2011, 02:38:08 PM
1994 1/2 Ounce Panda
Face Value: 50Y
Coin Weight: 1/2oz.
Content: .999gold
Diameter: 27mm Quality   
Proof Mintage: Unknown (Maximum 2500)

I'll know more about the grade when it gets through the NCS/NGC process.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on March 20, 2011, 05:36:49 PM
It looks like a nice coin. Good luck.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 20, 2011, 05:57:04 PM
I have contact with a bullion dealer and he has some gold 1 oz in its original PVC cover...
but I wonder... did they really come in the soft(?) PVC cover, with no hardcapsule inside??
I mean, this offer very little protection for the coins no?
I have seen pictures of gold pandas that are in a hard round cover, and the soft PVC covering them?

Did they come originally like this? (photo)
He has 1985, 1987 and 1989 on offer for aprox 10% over spot .... but I am afraid they are damaged... on the other hand.. if they were sent in for grading and get agood grade... woulden 10% over spot be a very good price to buy them for??

(this photo has a damaged PVC cover.. so he was willing to sell it at a discount...

he receives them fra a bullion distributor from the US....  what do you think?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 20, 2011, 05:57:49 PM
like tha photo Panda Halves just posted ABOVE, it seems like it has both the hard plastic round, and the PVC.... whats the story here?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on March 20, 2011, 06:05:28 PM
I think the proofs come in a capsule and the non proofs in soft vinyl pouch. I bought many pandas in the vinyl pouches. This is a 1987-S 1 Oz Gold Panda. Those often have copper spots. Does he have an image of the other side?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 20, 2011, 06:07:09 PM
no he dosent have that... i might ask him for one... i dont think it has any copper staince, then he would have said so.. he is not used to that on gold coins... i think he only took this photo to show the wrap in the PVC cover... (up to the left)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on March 20, 2011, 06:10:41 PM
If the rip is not big enough to get the coin out, then it probably stayed in there for a long time. Now, here is my beginner opinion. This is the more common 1 oz with 84000 vs the y mint with 47000. If you were a bullion buyer, comparing this to another bullion purchase,I would definitely buy this. If you are buying this to speculate on increasing value, I would put my money somewhere else with lower mintage. I am sure badon and peter will elaborate much more intelligently :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on March 20, 2011, 06:12:05 PM
The PVC pouch is common for the early pandas, though I'm not very familiar with them. I think r3globe is correct that they come without capsules for non-proof pandas. The PVC can damage even gold coins, so be sure to get them conserved. Make sure to note on the NCS paperwork that the coin has PVC residues on it that must be removed.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 20, 2011, 06:12:24 PM
thanks.. he has 1985 and 1989 too....
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on March 20, 2011, 06:17:47 PM
I think 1985 has the lowest mintage amongst all three with 55,539
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 20, 2011, 06:18:30 PM
it seems to me, after having browsed the pedia, that 1 oz BU gold only reach a significant premium over spot in the 1995, 1996 , 1998, 1999 and 2005 years...... hmmm.. :sneaky2:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on March 20, 2011, 06:20:14 PM
Except for 2 years the coins with the double seals (capsule + pouch) are proofs, like the 1994 above. Business strike coins get only one pouch.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 20, 2011, 06:22:07 PM
Thanks Peter - Have the March issue been released yet?
my book is still not arrived.... god knows whats going on.. all my UIK and some US amazon books have arrived...
 :crying: ..

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on March 20, 2011, 06:25:51 PM
The China Mint melted Panda coins, coin dealers melted Pandas, jewelers put them in bezels and bracelets and melted them, too. Mintage is irrelevant and even misleading, it's surviving population size that matters.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com

P.S. Second book was shipped a while ago. I can look for the customs receipt to get the date it was sent but unfortunately we can't track the book with it. Maybe it's on a "No Buy" list with customs. Just kidding. The March issue is still in progress. My ANA convention appearance was great fun but took time away from the Pricepedia. I have to catch up now.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on March 20, 2011, 06:31:52 PM
Thanks peter for the clarification. So, I guess the price of the coin will give you an idea about its scarcity.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on March 20, 2011, 07:03:46 PM
Thanks peter for the clarification. So, I guess the price of the coin will give you an idea about its scarcity.

Sometimes it does but not always. There can be other factors. One example is lack of demand due to buyers’ confusion about the true populations of many coins. Some very scarce coins and varieties are relegated for long periods to "common" status. As long as there is no interest in them there is no movement in price, although it would only take a very small increase in demand to force their prices higher. There are still quite a few instances of price distortions like this in the Chinese market which is part of what makes it so interesting to research and write about (at least for me).

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 20, 2011, 07:18:03 PM
so basically, my dealer friend has 3 pcs 1987, 8 pcs 1989 and 1 pcs 1985... all in PVC covers.. would you recommend him to conserve and grade all of them?`

Sales is a bit slow in Norway... so maybe try to sell them at ebay?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on March 20, 2011, 07:27:19 PM
so basically, my dealer friend has 3 pcs 1987, 8 pcs 1989 and 1 pcs 1985... all in PVC covers.. would you recommend him to conserve and grade all of them?`

Sales is a bit slow in Norway... so maybe try to sell them at ebay?

Unless they are real gems I doubt any will bring much above melt value on eBay or elsewhere at this time. A very high grade coin of these dates (particularly the 1989) will bring a decent premium. This is why many gold Panda coins get melted. Eventually, sometimes, the remaining survivors are no longer common and rise in value. Then lots of people say, "Oh, I used to have one of those."

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 21, 2011, 10:04:25 AM
Glourios Day!!!  :001_cool:

Finally My Panda Book arrived!! Very happy... AND my favorit dealer came trough! sent my an email this morning and hioted that he had some chinese silvers just arrived... thats my guy :)

I picked a lot of goodies for a reasonalbe price:

This is the pick of the day: UNEARTHED ARTIFACTS 1990

I dare not say how much(little) I paid for them... but as long as the dealer is happy and I am happy, all is good. They will cost a little to conserve and slab and the rest of series seems impossible to get at reasonable prices so I take this into consideration when assesing the price, but it was a brgain.. no doubt about it :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on March 21, 2011, 10:14:51 AM
Hi again,
I'm now posting another favourite of mine however this one is not rare but it is the beauty of the coin "Seated Kuanyin" which achieved PERFECT GRADE PF70 from NGC.

SUBJECT : SEATED KUANYIN  1/10oz.  2003
(GRADED BY NGC PF70)
KM # 1512, 50 Yuan, 3.1104gm, 0.9990
Gold 0.0999oz. AGW, 18mm
Obv : Putuo Mountain Pilgrimage Gate
Rev : Seated Kuanyin with holographic background
Edge : Reeded
Date : 2003
Proof Mintage : 33,000


(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/2003GuanyinA.jpg)

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/2003GuanyinB.jpg)


Happy Viewing

Andrew




Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 21, 2011, 01:38:23 PM
Nice one Andrew  :001_smile:

here is one of the others I got today... I have no idea what it is... 1997, 1/2 ozt??
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dobedo on March 21, 2011, 02:59:12 PM
Hot Kuanyin sitting in fire. Cool happy kid with a big fish. Wow!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on March 22, 2011, 04:43:57 AM
Digging Norway,
You do not know what coins you're buying ? What is the area of your strength ?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 22, 2011, 06:14:12 AM
Digging Norway,
You do not know what coins you're buying ? What is the area of your strength ?

I'msorry I dont understand your question. I pay spotprice for the coins (metal-price) si when I see a chinese coin with a kid and fish from 1997 which looks nice I but it. Is that a strength?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on March 22, 2011, 06:37:29 AM
I was asking about the strength of your collection or what do you collect the most ? For example, some people may specialised in collecting Pandas only and some may collect lunar coins.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on March 22, 2011, 06:40:36 AM
Hello, Now i would like to share one of the most beautiful dragon coin in my collection.

REV : TWO FLOATING DRAGONS  1oz. 1988
(GRADED BY NGC PF69)
Subject : Year Of The Dragon
Obv : Temple of Heaven
KM #196, 100 Yuan, 31.132gm, 1oz. 0.9990
Gold 0.9999oz. AGW
Series : 1988 Lunar Year
Proof Mintage : 10,000

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1988DoubleDragonA.jpg)

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1988DoubleDragonB.jpg)


Happy Viewing.

Andrew


Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on March 22, 2011, 06:40:43 AM
Nice one Andrew  :001_smile:

here is one of the others I got today... I have no idea what it is... 1997, 1/2 ozt??


"Auspicious Matters" series

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 22, 2011, 06:55:13 AM

[/quote]
I was asking about the strength of your collection or what do you collect the most ? For example, some people may specialised in collecting Pandas only and some may collect lunar coins.

OK... I started collecting different bullion coins at first, all kinds of things: silver eagles, philharmonics, different canadian mint etc... then I stumbled across a giant 1kg panda that I liked very much... so I started collecting pandas as I liked their design. Ten I stumbled across some other low mintage silver modern coins, since I got them cheap I bought them. Then I started researching the coins, this fourm and other sites and got hooked...

Now I collect pandas, gold and silver, and modern silver coins... I have almost completed the 1995 and 1997 traditional culture series. I only miss one coin. I have about half of the historical figueres series, I have some of the unearthed artifacts, some olympic series..

basically I buy up all the modern chinese coins with low mintage I can get my hands on (when I get good offers) and my next step is to send them in to NCS/NGC as these are "European Coins" and they are "bashed by badon" ;) It will be exciting to see what grade they will get.. I am kind of hoping that these silver coins from the 80s and 90s will become popular again and due to their low mintage they will becom interesting collectables.. in addition they are very beautiful coins.. Not many people collect chinese coins in Norway so one can get some bargains out there.. but some of the coins are probably not handled properly... so the grading will be exciting..
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on March 22, 2011, 06:57:52 AM
"Auspicious Matters" series


Thanks, I found that too one the internet when I got some time, but I really didnt find any good site describing the whole series, the lenght, varieties and mintages.. personally I dont like the colorized coins, but since badon said that children was popular in China and I only paid 20USD for it I got it :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: buynicething on March 23, 2011, 09:02:22 PM
31.3 grams
Just picked up this one with a couple others.
Paid 150 for it.  There are the milk spots that can be seen.
The marks are on the capsule.
I was thinking about returning it.  Thoughts
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: buynicething on March 23, 2011, 09:07:48 PM
Here is the reverse
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaCollector on March 23, 2011, 11:13:14 PM
I see no point in spending money on impaired examples of coins that can be found and bought in original condition. I make exceptions for coins that are truly rare or have study value.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: buynicething on March 23, 2011, 11:28:06 PM
Thank you for taking the time to respond Peter!
That does sound like great advice.
I will be sending it back.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: buynicething on March 23, 2011, 11:40:04 PM
Here are the ones to keep.
Not the most expensive coins, but I really like the theme.
I mean who doesn't want abundance and happiness for there children
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: buynicething on March 23, 2011, 11:42:48 PM
And the silver
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on March 24, 2011, 01:05:07 AM
Such a beautiful gold coin you have.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on March 24, 2011, 10:13:30 AM
This one is another of my favourite.

SUBJECT : CHAIRMAN MAO  1/2oz. 1993
(GRADED BY NGC PF69)
KM # 542, 50 Yuan, 15.5517gm, ½ oz. 0.9990
Gold 0.4995oz. AGW, 27mm
Rev : Bust, ¾ left, denomination at left
Date : 1993
Proof Mintage : 5000

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/MaoA.jpg)

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/MaoB.jpg)

Happy Viewing.

Andrew
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on March 24, 2011, 02:45:16 PM
wow, beautiful pictures, Andrew. Do you care how you take such good photos? What kind of camera? Any tips. Thanks.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: buynicething on March 24, 2011, 04:38:28 PM
Wow!  That must be a tough coin to find in investment grade!  Nice!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on March 24, 2011, 09:10:34 PM
wow, beautiful pictures, Andrew. Do you care how you take such good photos? What kind of camera? Any tips. Thanks.

I use a Nikon D700 digital SLR to take the picture without its flash. The light come from my table lamp and not to shine directly to the coin as it could cause reflection, snap the picture from certain angle to ensure the reflection of the coin does not reflect back yourself. And you must have a steady hand when taking pictures in low lights.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on March 25, 2011, 11:27:22 AM
thank you for the tip :)
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Post by: canadian on March 26, 2011, 10:27:23 PM
Hello DiggingNorway

Your coin from the "Auspicious Matters" series is one of 11, silver and gold coins from the 1997 issue. In 1998 there were 5 coins in the series and in 1999 there were 3 coins in the series. I also like this series but think that it was not very popular, western collectors don't appreciate the symbolism.

best regards
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on March 29, 2011, 10:20:55 AM
Hello, Here i'm again with another rare coin.

1988 A.N.A CONVENTION CINCINNATI   1oz.
(GRADED BY NGC PF69)
Face Value : Medal
Weight   : 1oz.
Content   : .999gold
Diameter : 32mm
Quality   : Proof
Mintage   : 1000


(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1988ANAA.jpg)

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1988ANAB.jpg)

Happy Viewing !

Andrew
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on March 30, 2011, 10:31:35 AM
This coin 1995 Silk Road is not rare but it is hard to find in investment grade.

SUBJECT : SILK ROAD 1/3oz.  1995
(GRADED BY NGC PF69)
KM # 870, 50 Yuan, 11.318gm, 0.9160
Gold 0.3333oz. AGW, 23mm
Obv : National Emblem, date below
Rev : Man Riding Camel, denomination at right
Date : 1995
Proof Mintage : 10,000

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1995SilkRoadA.jpg)

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1995SilkRoadB.jpg)

As usual happy viewing.

Regards,
Andrew
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on March 30, 2011, 10:39:59 AM
look at the beautiful details on that camel. Thank you for such nice pictures, Andrew.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on March 30, 2011, 01:37:15 PM
Yes, Andrew's photos are some of the best that get posted on this forum. I really enjoy seeing them.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on April 02, 2011, 10:17:28 AM
Newest bear in the family... raw, 347USD.. happy to get it  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on April 02, 2011, 02:15:36 PM
nice looking bear at a great price; congratulations :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Halves on April 02, 2011, 03:14:59 PM
The 1994 proof is back from grading.
Gold 1/2 Proof Set is now 100% Complete:
http://coins.www.collectors-society.com/registry/coins/SetListing.aspx?PeopleSetID=117117
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Post by: r3globe on April 02, 2011, 03:26:24 PM
congratulations Pandahalves and you could not have picked a more "perfect" coin to finish the set :)
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on April 02, 2011, 03:31:27 PM
WOW ! Congratulation Pandahalves to get a Perfect grade.
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Post by: badon on April 02, 2011, 03:49:37 PM
What a stunner! Congratulations on your magnificent collection, I am quite impressed.
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Post by: PandaCollector on April 02, 2011, 04:30:39 PM
It is fantastic coin and getting the world's only MS-70 is a delightful result, the more so given that there were some worrisome plastic chips inside the original capsules. I was privileged to see the coin at the ANA Show. It's an extraordinary coin that belongs to a great, knowledgeable collector who is also a very nice guy.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
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Post by: badon on April 02, 2011, 04:40:03 PM
And now, a wealthier guy too :) Those 70 coins just make me drool dollar bills. I can't believe the sums of money I have spent on 70 coins, but in hindsight, they were dirt cheap.
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Post by: happycoins II on April 04, 2011, 01:33:54 AM
Got from a collector who attended the Eurseree Auction#24 yesterday as discussed at the below link

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=2429.0

My favoriest is the Kanfu panda set.

By the way, does anyone have any clue on the current market price the attached 1982 football coins?

Happycoins
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Post by: badon on April 04, 2011, 01:49:01 AM
My favoriest is the Kanfu panda set.

I think you mean "Kung Fu" panda? That's my favorite too. It has such a great nickname :)
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on April 04, 2011, 02:34:47 AM
Such a beauty of gold kunfu panda you have here.
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Post by: badon on April 04, 2011, 02:39:11 AM
Yes, the gold one is nice, but I think the silver one is rarer, isn't it?
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on April 04, 2011, 10:56:00 AM
Hello I'm back again. Hope all of you are not bored with me and my coins. Well this time i would like to share :-

SUBJECT : INTERNATIONAL YEAR OF THE CHILD  17.170gm   1979
(GRADED BY NGC PF69)
KM # 9, 450 Yuan, 17.1700gm, 0.9000
Gold 0.4968oz. AGW,
Series : International Year Of The Child
Obv : State seal above floral sprays
Rev : Two children planting flower   
Date : 1979
Proof Mintage : 12,000

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1979YearofchildA.jpg)

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1979YearofchildB.jpg)

As usual happy viewing.

Andrew

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Post by: BChung on April 04, 2011, 11:02:55 AM
wow why would anyone be tired of viewing your coins andrew? Keep them coming.
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Post by: r3globe on April 04, 2011, 12:07:13 PM
beautiful coin ! Thanks for sharing.
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Post by: badon on April 04, 2011, 12:12:56 PM
Yeah, these are some very nice coins, and very nice photos. Thanks for posting them, and keep them coming. I love looking at them.
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Post by: happycoins II on April 05, 2011, 05:00:58 AM
Dear Andrew,

Just keep posting your coins. They are all perfect in the slapped holders. :001_tt1:

Happycoins
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on April 05, 2011, 06:58:53 AM
Thank you all for your compliments and now i would like to share :-

SUBJECT : YEAR OF ROOSTER  8.00gm  1981
(GRADED BY NGC PF69)
KM # 41, 250 Yuan, 8.00gm, 0.9170
Gold 0.2358oz. AGW, 23mm
Obv : Monument, date lower left
Rev : Rooster left, denomination at left
Date : 1981
Proof Mintage : 5015

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1981RoosterA.jpg)

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/1981RoosterB-1.jpg)


Happy Viewing.

Andrew
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on April 11, 2011, 11:42:37 AM
Just wanted to share with you some of my Unicorns collection of various years.

1994 Unicorn 1/4oz.     Gold Proof Mintage   5100
1994 Unicorn 1/10oz.    Gold Proof Mintage   5100
1994 Unicorn 1/10oz.    Gold Proof Mintage   5100
1994 Unicorn 1/20oz.   Gold Proof Mintage   31100
1995 Unicorn 1/2oz.    Gold Proof Mintage   2000
1996 Unicorn 1/4oz.   Gold Proof Mintage   3000

(http://i860.photobucket.com/albums/ab165/andchew/Unicorn6x6.jpg)

As usual happy viewing.

Andrew
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Post by: badon on April 11, 2011, 01:39:07 PM
Why do you have 2 1994 1/10 oz gold unicorns? Is one for sale?
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on April 11, 2011, 01:44:30 PM
Why do you have 2 1994 1/10 oz gold unicorns? Is one for sale?

Not at this moment perhaps later this year
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Post by: Underbidder on April 11, 2011, 02:07:28 PM
? "Why do you have TWO 1994 1/10 gold Unicorns?".  If it were me, the answer  would be " 'Cuz I haven't found my THIRD yet!"  :thumbup:
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Post by: Grip on April 11, 2011, 06:41:54 PM
Just got these back from NGC (all conserved before grading). The 1996 Unicorn is the one I bought from Pocono
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Post by: pandaguy212 on April 11, 2011, 09:48:44 PM
Hi Grip - I believe your 1996 gold panda is mis-labeled - it is a Small Date  :(
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Post by: Grip on April 11, 2011, 10:15:18 PM
Why am I not surprised. guess I'll just list it for 30,000 as a grading error....
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Post by: PandaCollector on April 11, 2011, 11:14:18 PM
Yes, it is a 1996 Small Date.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
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Post by: Underbidder on April 11, 2011, 11:39:38 PM
Nice coins Grip! Some of my favorites as well. I especially like the 96 Panda, it can't really be called a sleeper, but I think they are undervalued for sure, and they  will only get more popular as the 98s and 95s get scarcer.  Any ideas on relative scarcity of 96 large dates vs small dates?
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Post by: pandaguy212 on April 12, 2011, 07:35:07 AM
I believe the Small Date 1996 is more rare. Can anyone confirm this?
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Post by: Grip on April 12, 2011, 10:19:48 AM
NGC population is rarer between the large and small date specific grades, but a lot of 96's were graded with a generic 1996 MS. I'm sending the coin back with my next batch of raw coins for regrade as the slab has a small ding as well as the wrong date type designation.
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Post by: Grip on April 15, 2011, 07:32:00 PM
Just got these back from NGC. All conserved before grading.
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Post by: Underbidder on April 15, 2011, 09:57:22 PM
Congrats Grip on finding and conserving these gems-  :thumbup1:
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Post by: badon on April 15, 2011, 10:45:00 PM
Nice grades, almost all of them are 69's.
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on April 15, 2011, 11:54:35 PM
Congrats to you Grip for having such beautiful and high grade coins. You must be very proud owner.
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Post by: ? on April 16, 2011, 10:23:47 PM
Panda 2011 5 oz Au :001_wub:; Mintage 2,000

greetz anwir
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on April 16, 2011, 10:33:45 PM
Such a beauty. Do you intend to send for grading ?
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Post by: Underbidder on April 17, 2011, 12:26:16 AM
 :001_tt1:
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Post by: Grip on April 20, 2011, 02:59:52 PM
Just got this. NGC graded population is a total of 17 with 14 MS69. No idea what the PCGS numbers are, but the gold Peacocks don't show up often.
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Post by: Underbidder on April 20, 2011, 03:05:13 PM
Hey Grip-- nice Peacock- BTW did you see how fast the 1996 100 Yuan MS69 you recently showed has risen in just days?  From $2100 as few days ago to today $2,850 and it sold within seconds of being put up.  WOW  :blink:
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Post by: Grip on April 20, 2011, 03:12:53 PM
Hey Cous. I saw that too. Could just be a one off anomaly. Hope you are well....
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Post by: Underbidder on April 20, 2011, 03:26:30 PM
Hmm... I think maybe that's the anomaloy.. from here on !  ;)
None up for auction on ebay, and any popping up being snatched instantly, I think what we may have here is the next year moving into  '95 and '98 status !
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Post by: happycoins II on April 20, 2011, 11:51:07 PM
Having seen the coins in the slapped holders with high grade and conservation, it reminds me about a brandname costumes and cosmetics which make the person who weares them look better. On the other hand, the coins with their original box, double sealed and COA remind me about natural beauty where the person who has it must be very proud, and that it is more interesting to preserve it.

I believe that their true beauty would depend on which angle that you prefer. :001_tt2:

Thank for reading this, and belows are Chinese modern coins that I recently acquired.

Happycoins 
 
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Post by: Underbidder on April 21, 2011, 12:07:55 AM
HC,  for many coins I agree wholeheartedly !  I'd rather have any set still in the box, whether they be panda proof sets, bimetal sets, and I like the cultural figures in boxes too.  Actually, almost anything that came in a box, I like to keep in the box.  It keeps an aura of mystery about it.  What would it grade?  Hmmm...no one knows yet.. for sure... COULD be a 69... These are for myself.
On the other hand, if it came in just a plastic wrap like a panda, well, might as well have it in a slab, so long as its a 69. Easier to know price and sell when its time.
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on April 21, 2011, 12:09:14 AM
Happycoins,
WOW !! thanks for sharing such a scare coins you have here. Perhaps you could write some introduction of the coins you display so other know what is it all about.
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Post by: badon on April 21, 2011, 01:23:35 AM
I do keep the accessories too, if I've got them, but I'd never get excited about just the accessories. The coin is the star of the show, and some stars shine brighter than others, sometimes literally. In that case, I think of a graded coin like an athlete that's finally earned a spot on the Olympic team, while the ungraded coins are still in training...with European sweat and spit on them, haha :)
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Post by: Underbidder on April 21, 2011, 01:31:24 AM
As long as they're still in their plastic wrap, that Euro-spit can wiped off easily !  :thumbup1:
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Post by: happycoins II on April 21, 2011, 04:41:45 AM
Happycoins,
WOW !! thanks for sharing such a scare coins you have here. Perhaps you could write some introduction of the coins you display so other know what is it all about.
As I can't read Chinese, I would refer to the information that I got from an auction house which claims that this set is the 1981 70th Anniversary of Revolution set, consisting of (i) a 400 Yuan 1/2 Oz .916 Gold Proof, Mintage 1500 pieces,and (ii) a 35 Yuan 1 Oz .916 Silver Proof, Mintage 4000 pieces.

This is a seldom seen set. I hope you like the picture.

Happycoins

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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on April 21, 2011, 04:45:23 AM
As I can't read Chinese, I would refer to the information that I got from an auction house which claims that this set is the 1981 70th Anniversary of Revolution set, consisting of (i) a 400 Yuan 1/2 Oz .916 Gold Proof, Mintage 1500 pieces,and (ii) a 35 Yuan 1 Oz .916 Silver Proof, Mintage 4000 pieces.

This is a seldom seen set. I hope you like the picture.

Happycoins



Thanks for sharing it is a real beauty and scarce set. Do you intend to send for grading ?
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Post by: happycoins II on April 21, 2011, 05:41:46 AM
Thanks for sharing it is a real beauty and scarce set. Do you intend to send for grading ?
No, I like the natural beauty as it is.

Happycoins
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Post by: billtucker on May 06, 2011, 01:17:58 AM
Wow guys :001_rolleyes:, I never knew that Chinese coins looks damm beautiful. I wish I could have one. Can any one guide me where to get one panda coin. Is it available online??? guys please help...
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Post by: taciturn on May 08, 2011, 01:45:30 PM
nice unicorns. got them today for double spot price. yeah!

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Post by: badon on May 08, 2011, 02:46:02 PM
Wow, good job! You have a whole set! AMAZING!
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Post by: DiggingNorway on May 08, 2011, 02:47:00 PM
congratulations!! that sounds like a great price!
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Post by: badon on May 08, 2011, 02:58:09 PM
In a 69 grade, each of those would sell for between 20 and 40 times the spot silver value.
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Post by: taciturn on May 08, 2011, 03:08:47 PM
I am very happy about this. A friend of me sold me a lot of Chinese coins today. Some expensive (still cheaper than today's value) and some very cheap.
Here I got the Sun Yatsen for 10x spot (is it normal, that this coin was originally only in a plastic pouch without capsule?)
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Post by: PandaCollector on May 08, 2011, 06:02:14 PM
Wow guys :001_rolleyes:, I never knew that Chinese coins looks damm beautiful. I wish I could have one. Can any one guide me where to get one panda coin. Is it available online??? guys please help...


Try here: http://www.pandausa.com/silverpandacoins2.html

or here: http://www.victorybullion.com/

or here: http://www.pandaamerica.com/sresult.asp?keyword=China%202011%20Panda&sortby=priceasc

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
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Post by: happycoins II on May 09, 2011, 02:51:59 AM
I am very happy about this. A friend of me sold me a lot of Chinese coins today. Some expensive (still cheaper than today's value) and some very cheap.
Here I got the Sun Yatsen for 10x spot (is it normal, that this coin was originally only in a plastic pouch without capsule?)
Please take a look at page 4 of this topic. Mine looks the same.
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on May 09, 2011, 10:30:28 AM
Hi Folks,
Here i am again with one of my non graded coin set to share with all of you. Today i went to my bank to take this set out from the bank vault and also to take some pictures.

80th ANNIVERSARY 1911 REVOLUTION SET OF 4.
KM#385 100Y Proof Mintage 2500, 8 gram gold
Rev: Sun Yat-Sen writing

KM#384 100Y Proof Mintage 1000, 1oz. gold
Rev:Sun Yat-Sen in uniform, facing

Happy Viewing !

Andrew
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Post by: happycoins II on May 09, 2011, 09:41:58 PM
Hi Folks,
Here i am again with one of my non graded coin set to share with all of you. Today i went to my bank to take this set out from the bank vault and also to take some pictures.

80th ANNIVERSARY 1911 REVOLUTION SET OF 4.
KM#385 100Y Proof Mintage 2500, 8 gram gold
Rev: Sun Yat-Sen writing

KM#384 100Y Proof Mintage 1000, 1oz. gold
Rev:Sun Yat-Sen in uniform, facing

Happy Viewing !

Andrew

Wow! Buy the way, did you win the bidding on ebay for the 70th Anniversary set?
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on May 09, 2011, 11:07:53 PM
[Wow! Buy the way, did you win the bidding on ebay for the 70th Anniversary set?
[/quote]

No i did not win, i really like yours.  :001_smile:
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Post by: KonaJim on May 09, 2011, 11:53:01 PM
Very nice set Andrew.  I'm very much in favor of keeping the old traditional sets intact. 
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Post by: Panda Halves on May 10, 2011, 12:11:57 AM
1985 Gold MS Panda 1/2 ounce...
Air Panda!
I traded something for this coin in the plastic raw at the March ANA Convention.
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Post by: badon on May 10, 2011, 12:18:21 AM
Someday you're going to have to show us your whole collection. I bet it's amazing. "Air Panda", haha. It fits well with the Kung Fu Panda and the Pot Belly Panda :)
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Post by: Panda Halves on May 10, 2011, 12:45:07 AM
I think "air panda" is what Peter referred to it as at the convention. I didn't come up with it.
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on May 10, 2011, 12:48:00 AM
Panda Halve,
I think that is not a 1995 panda please correct me if i'm wrong. Thanks.
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Post by: Underbidder on May 10, 2011, 05:06:18 AM
Hey lets be fun! This is a beaut: and only 1000 made
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Post by: Underbidder on May 10, 2011, 05:12:21 AM
Ok, Drool is allowed if you have to: 1992 Proof Set  :001_smile:
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Post by: Underbidder on May 10, 2011, 05:15:27 AM
This is what 1988 Hong Kong looks like:  :ohmy:
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Post by: Underbidder on May 10, 2011, 05:28:11 AM
This is rare, way, way, underecognized, 1979 (first year) medal set
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Post by: Underbidder on May 10, 2011, 05:32:56 AM
. :w00t:
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Post by: Underbidder on May 10, 2011, 05:39:44 AM
Low mintage, I can't figure out pic size, sorry...
1998 Basel Au
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Post by: PandaCollector on May 10, 2011, 11:47:16 AM
This is what 1988 Hong Kong looks like:  :ohmy:

There is a second Panda medal that shares this design. It is made of brass, or gold plated brass, and is seen less frequently than the gold medal itself. Rumor has it that it was a VIP gift. Here's what it looks like:

(http://www.pandacollector.com/1988-hk_brass.jpg)

The photo is from the Gold and Silver Panda Coin Buyer's Guide.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on May 10, 2011, 11:58:33 AM
There is a second Panda medal that shares this design. It is made of brass, or gold plated brass, and is seen less frequently than the gold medal itself. Rumor has it that it was a VIP gift. Here's what it looks like:

(http://www.pandacollector.com/1988-hk_brass.jpg)

The photo is from the Gold and Silver Panda Coin Buyer's Guide.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com

Such a rare item there was once Panda America were selling a similar one.
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Post by: Underbidder on May 10, 2011, 12:09:33 PM
Yeah, they advertised it as .999 gold, and when I asked them if they were sure, they said, no, instead it was 99.9 gold,  :blink: then hemmed and hawed and finally pulled the item from auction. It would have been a nice curio piece, but not at the price they were asking.
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Post by: PandaCollector on May 10, 2011, 12:13:25 PM
Such a rare item there was once Panda America were selling a similar one.

Yes, they had one that turned up in their vault a couple of months ago and mistakenly put it on eBay as the gold medal but then pulled it off. They didn't know what it was. I called the store to see what happened to it but couldn't get an answer.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com
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Post by: PandaCollector on May 10, 2011, 12:18:32 PM
Yeah, they advertised it as .999 gold, and when I asked them if they were sure, they said, no, instead it was 99.9 gold,  :blink: then hemmed and hawed and finally pulled the item from auction. It would have been a nice curio piece, but not at the price they were asking.

It's definitely not worth as much as much as the gold medal right now, but as the apparently rarer of the two medals there's no telling how it might be valued in the future. It's an intriguing and mysterious medal. Perhaps someone reading this Forum has some first-hand knowledge of its history.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
http://www.pandacollector.com

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Post by: Panda Halves on May 10, 2011, 01:06:49 PM
Panda Halve,
I think that is not a 1995 panda please correct me if i'm wrong. Thanks.

Correct. It is a 1985 as stated. Did you make a mistake or are you fishing for photos of a 1995 : )
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Post by: taciturn on May 14, 2011, 11:20:33 AM
cute animals  :001_smile:
(Endangered wildlife, year 1997, mintage: 30.000)
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Post by: Underbidder on May 14, 2011, 01:25:27 PM
Nice coin. I would guess that the actual Mintage was nowhere near that.
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Post by: taciturn on May 17, 2011, 11:52:40 AM
Another buy today. Sorry for the bad quality of the pic, but it's difficult to capture all 4 coins. Don't worry, fingerprints are only on the capsules. ;)

(Taiwan Scenery silver coin set 1992, 4 x 5 Yuan, planned mintage: 2000 sets)


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Post by: PeterPanda on May 18, 2011, 10:25:28 AM
Yeah, they advertised it as .999 gold, and when I asked them if they were sure, they said, no, instead it was 99.9 gold,  :blink: then hemmed and hawed and finally pulled the item from auction. It would have been a nice curio piece, but not at the price they were asking.

Sorry guys this item was not correctly described by our listing person as he only started working for us recently.  This indeed is a brass piece given away by the mint officials.  So we pulled this as soon as we reliazed the mistake.

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Post by: dragondollar on June 12, 2011, 05:35:50 PM
Bought my very first modern chinese coin today. A UNEP 5 yuan coin from 1992 for $316 USD. It looks like a problem free coin from the pictures, hope I did a good deal :)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p4340.l2557&rt=nc&nma=true&item=320709911078&si=HS17ucFW%252BntOr7rNJYxcPdVrPOE%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWAX%3AIT
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Post by: badon on June 12, 2011, 05:39:29 PM
I noticed that selling for good money. It's a beautiful coin, and I think coins with a female theme have been getting some attention lately.
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Post by: dragondollar on June 12, 2011, 05:55:57 PM
Yeah, I like these Xinjiang themed coins, their design is really beautiful. I'm going to buy a 30th year anniversary of the Xinjiang SAR soon as well.
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Post by: dragonfan on June 12, 2011, 07:26:25 PM
Congratulations dragondollar!
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Post by: Grip on June 20, 2011, 06:47:33 PM
Just got these back from NGC.  All are conserved..
http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/5c6c9030-d1d2-454f-8665-9f59cac245e0_obv.jpg
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http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/ffe01c1e-fed3-4cad-8124-9472c470f685_obv.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/ffe01c1e-fed3-4cad-8124-9472c470f685_rev.jpg
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Post by: bigtc on June 20, 2011, 07:21:18 PM
Very nice! Good results with the grades.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Nobleone on June 25, 2011, 12:05:18 AM
My newest coins.  1989 8g Gold Year of the Snake, 1989 15gm Silver Year of the Snake, 1985 15gm Silver Year of the Ox, and 1986 15gm Silver Year of the Tiger.  All with COAs. I believe I might have over paid a bit, but I'm hoping that these years are under valued a bit.  They have relatively low mint counts.  I wonder how many did not sale out of the proposed mint of 15,000 for the Ag tiger and Ag snake and 10,000 for the Ag Ox. Only 7,500 reported mint for the 8g snake.  Now I have the tough decision of to slab or not to slab.  I might be getting the original boxes for a few of them, if the guy can find them in his house.  I have the Panda Pricepedia numbers on these, but what do you all think would be a fair price for these four coins with COAs?   
     
(http://www.noblesmurphy.com/newcoins.JPG)



Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on June 25, 2011, 01:03:11 AM
Very nice start on the lunars.

These are hard to get in high grades, partly because most of them were stored or handled very poorly, like the tiger you have. The tiger is sliding around in a loose holder, and that is damaging the coin (the invisible dust inside acts like sandpaper).

Although they're all low-mintage, they're only rare in high grades. Low grades are pretty easy to get because they circulate.

You want high grades, if you care about the investment potential of your coins. That means you should slab all of them, and keep the ones that score the best. Remember to send them to NCS instead of directly to NGC.

They are definitely undervalued, even in low grades. I think an average early silver lunar has 1/300th the mintage of this year's 2011 silver panda.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on June 25, 2011, 01:15:36 AM
Just got these back from NGC.  All are conserved..
http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/5c6c9030-d1d2-454f-8665-9f59cac245e0_obv.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/5c6c9030-d1d2-454f-8665-9f59cac245e0_rev.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/6a38ad39-a3a8-4748-b7a2-e172652a96ea_obv.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/6a38ad39-a3a8-4748-b7a2-e172652a96ea_rev.jpg
http://s3.amazonaws.com:80/ngc-images/d90cd847-70e5-4e55-9b2e-cda2bc1b36e3_obv.jpg

What a great set of new coins, Grip,
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on June 25, 2011, 02:42:28 PM
I bought this coin today, it was kind of expensive (for me) I gave 90USD for it  :ohmy:
But I just wanted it so bad. Is so cool to see how China tries to depict a cross country skier with the small traditional chinese "hut" (?) in the background, and the anatomy of the skier is also a bit strange... way to muscular, looks more like a downhill skill with that thorax and huge biceps.

This coin was made for the Winter Olympics in my country, Lillehammer 1994, and minted in 1992. Regarding the mintage there seems to be some different numbers out there. The Krause catalog says it is only 7500 minted, but accoring to
modernchinacoins.com the mintage was 30.000

China has never really been a great winter olympics participant, they have participated in 9 games, the first being in 1980 in Lake Placid. They have 9 gold medals, 18 silvers and 17 bronze medals. Their best sport is skating and curling.

However, if the mintage turnes out to be 7500 and someone wants to complete the olympic series this coin can get scarce.
The coins sent in to ngc are few, with: 7 coins graded 68 and 5 coins graded 69.

I think my coin need conservation, it has some haze around the edges... I use a microscope with blue light to check the coins now, as I have not yet solved my "sending in for grading problem".
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on June 25, 2011, 02:48:22 PM
nice buy, DN. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaOrLunar on June 25, 2011, 03:52:23 PM
For those who are interested in games theme coin.  Take a look at these bad boys that are on their way back from NCS and NGC with a 1,000 mintage each.

1984 23rd Summer Olympic Games:  PF69 Matte

1986 13th FIFA World Cup Mexico:  PF68 Matte
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on June 25, 2011, 03:54:22 PM
 :drool:

wow!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: GrandAm on July 08, 2011, 02:08:08 AM
I like this one  ;)

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/gdhoop/2000MirrorREV-1.jpg)

(http://i207.photobucket.com/albums/bb178/gdhoop/2000MirrorOBV-1.jpg)

GrandAm  :001_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on July 08, 2011, 03:17:47 AM
GA,
Such a beauty, congrats !
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on July 08, 2011, 09:37:59 PM
Every time I start thinking I've got a nice collection, I see someone who has a coin that I don't have yet...
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on July 08, 2011, 10:34:10 PM
Every time I start thinking I've got a nice collection, I see someone who has a coin that I don't have yet...
Badon,
What theme do you collect care to share ?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on July 08, 2011, 11:42:43 PM
I collect seecoins. If I see it, I collect it :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaQuest on July 09, 2011, 09:27:01 PM
   Hey Guys, Here's a few nice coins I recently got back from a batch sent to NCS/NGC. The 83 and 84 Brass Pandas were bought off an ad online 2 or 3 months back for $14.00 (Double Sealed) for the pair yes fourteen US$$$DOLLARS!!. I was skeptical at first but for $14 I took my chances, I still can't believe how little value the original owner had for them. Worked out great for me, for now I would consider them the rarest in my collection as far as PFUC69 availability on the bay goes.:thumbup:
       And the 1999 5Y LD Serif 1 I bought back in January for a couple hundred on eBay off a bad photo and coin already out of OMP, I haven't seen one sold individually in over two months. Over all my coins came back great all 69's including 1987 PFUC 1&5oz silver, 1999 silver Beijing Expo and some other goodies in fact the lowest grade was the 1999 5Y Serif ms68. Now I just need to figure out how to get the rest of my coins graded without selling, I guess I can't quite my day job yet. :biggrin:   
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on July 09, 2011, 09:39:30 PM
Wow, that brass panda came back from NCS looking spectacular!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaQuest on July 09, 2011, 09:54:48 PM
Thanks Badon,
   I believe the 84 had a few copper spots and they cleaned her right up. They looked good in the OMP but NCS did a fantastic job conserving them.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: banyantree on July 23, 2011, 02:50:51 AM
Hello,

here a nice picture from my china coin collection.

Banyantree
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on July 23, 2011, 01:22:53 PM
Very nice! I love that unicorn design. It's one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on July 26, 2011, 07:30:59 PM
A few highlights of my latest batch of raw coins sent to NCS/NGC.  Turnaround time was about a month.  The coins should be arriving any day now.  Interestingly, I sent a batch of mostly older coins directly to NGC at the same time (6/24) (bypassing NCS).  That batch is still "scheduled for grading."

1979   CHINA   YEAR OF THE CHILD   G450Y   PF 69 CAMEO
1987   CHINA   PANDA NEW YORK EXPO   G1OZ   PF 69 ULTRA CAMEO
1993   CHINA   PANDA                   G50Y   MS 70
2003   CHINA   PANDA                   G200Y   MS 70
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Pandora on July 26, 2011, 07:35:36 PM
A few highlights of my latest batch of raw coins sent to NCS/NGC.  Turnaround time was about a month.  The coins should be arriving any day now.  Interestingly, I sent a batch of mostly older coins directly to NGC at the same time (6/24) (bypassing NCS).  That batch is still "scheduled for grading."

1979   CHINA   YEAR OF THE CHILD   G450Y   PF 69 CAMEO
1987   CHINA   PANDA NEW YORK EXPO   G1OZ   PF 69 ULTRA CAMEO
1993   CHINA   PANDA                   G50Y   MS 70
2003   CHINA   PANDA                   G200Y   MS 70

This is the highest concentration of high grades and rare coins in a single batch that I have seen! Congrats Birdman!!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BoyBlueJay on July 29, 2011, 10:29:58 AM
My lastest aquisition from Xu Hong and I would love to see a COA if anyone can post one or email it to boybluejay@aol.com

His description to me:

These words are "星星之火可以燎原----毛泽东"。 This is a very famous saying by Chairman Mao Zedong. It means " A single spark can start a prairie fire. "
土地革命战争时期1927-1937 means the period of Agrarian Revolution war (1927 - 1937)
上海造币厂铸造 means the medal was made by Shanghai mint.
井冈山龙源口战斗旧址 A place where a battle took place in Jinggang Mountain
长征路上遵义会议旧址 The place where the famous Tsunyi Meeting took place (Jan, 15 to Jan 17, 1935 )
五次反围剿苏区政府旧址 the government building of the Red Army during the five times of anti-encirclement (fighting against Chiang Kai-shek government. )
南昌起义总指挥部旧址 The general headquarters of the Nanchang Uprising (1927)

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on July 31, 2011, 01:51:07 AM
Very interesting coins!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Halves on July 31, 2011, 11:50:09 AM
Year: 1996
Theme: 40th Anniversary of Chinese Aerospace Industry Set
Material: 1 oz Silver
Authorized Mintage: 20,000
Quality: BU
Grade: MS69
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on July 31, 2011, 12:20:35 PM
Very nice!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaOrLunar on July 31, 2011, 01:19:53 PM
Did you buy them graded or did you send them off to NCS and NGC yourself?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Halves on July 31, 2011, 01:34:34 PM
I sent them to NCS/NGC myself. I already had the same year's 40th anniversary of aviation set and I thought rounding out the set for a low price would be a worthwhile endeavor. In my opinion the 1996 airplane coins are a better investment, especially the Jet Airplane which will probably be the key to this mini-set due to popularity. However, from a collector's standpoint I would rather own all four coins instead.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Halves on July 31, 2011, 01:45:50 PM
On vacation I stopped by a hillbilly pawn shop in the Ozarks and bought these two beauties a few days ago...
Yes those small stickers are actual price paid.
2oz of silver for $29.90 in the form of double sealed piedfort 1997 Auspicious Happiness coins...
I also found a 1984 Year of Rat PF Silver coin in original box with COA in perfect condition at a random coin store for $250.00 and sold it to a fellow forum member at cost because I don't collect those things.
Auspiciuos Awesomeness!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: peng_you on August 01, 2011, 11:07:03 AM
didnt bother putting a picture up due to the availablity of my new purchase. anyways, just bought 8 sheets of 10 1989 bu silver pandas. super fresh. hiphip hooray!!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on August 01, 2011, 02:38:39 PM
Oh no, you don't get off that easy! Pictures are required! Front and back too. You might have some interesting varieties in there.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mrslick32 on August 01, 2011, 09:38:53 PM
On vacation I stopped by a hillbilly pawn shop in the Ozarks and bought these two beauties a few days ago...
Yes those small stickers are actual price paid.
2oz of silver for $29.90 in the form of double sealed piedfort 1997 Auspicious Happiness coins...
I also found a 1984 Year of Rat PF Silver coin in original box with COA in perfect condition at a random coin store for $250.00 and sold it to a fellow forum member at cost because I don't collect those things.
Auspiciuos Awesomeness!

You've got a great bargain! Now I know where to go on my next vacation...
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KonaJim on August 05, 2011, 11:23:42 PM
Here is a recently graded Invention & Discovery Coin from 1995.  It depicts the invention of the Cannon & Gunpowder.  There are only three graded by NGC with this being the highest graded by NGC.  This is a legal tender 50 yuan gold coin.  These coins from the Invention & Discovery series are still extemely undervalued in my opinion.  Check the NGC population figures and compare to any of the "popular" coins, 1995 Panda Proof, Fu Lu Shu, Peacock, or Unicorn.  None of those come close in rarity yet the price of these coins is significantly below the coins mentioned.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on August 06, 2011, 02:46:03 AM
Is that one for sale?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on August 06, 2011, 04:49:18 AM
KJ,
Such a "perfect" and beautiful coin you have there, did you manage to assemble the full set of 1995 I&D ?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on August 06, 2011, 09:28:08 AM
1979 GOLD CHINA 400 YUAN 4 COIN PROOFSET 30 ANNIVERSARY - IN CELEBRATION OF THE 30tH ANNIVERSARY OF THE FOUNDING OF THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF CHINA.

This is the set that started it all for the Modern Chinese coin era. Extremely difficult to find in this condition and fully complete. The coins were not double sealed by the mint.
In original wooden box with gift wrap box and COA. The design on top of the box is all wood 3D elevated with very accurate details. The pictures does not capture that.
I removed the COA number for security reasons. Best quality presentation box I have ever seen.

Interesting story behind this set. A very reputable dealer in Florida had this set for just a few days and was ready to have it shipped and graded. Lucky for me I stumbled on it just a day or two before been shipped to the slaughter house (I'm sorry the grading service). I told the dealer if these were graded, I would not have bought them. She was extremely puzzled and could not understand why. She could not understand why I wanted this set the way they were issued and not graded. A perfect indication why these OMP are disappearing fast. Why would anybody want to grade these coins and put them in a credit card!....... I already the answer to that......

Enjoy the pics......

exchange

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KonaJim on August 06, 2011, 01:21:31 PM
I have a full set of 1995 I&D plus some extra singles.  All my coins are for sale.  I also have a 1993 set, and a 1994 set.  There is presently on Ebay a nice 1993 set for sale.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on August 06, 2011, 01:31:30 PM
I have a full set of 1995 I&D plus some extra singles.  All my coins are for sale.  I also have a 1993 set, and a 1994 set.  There is presently on Ebay a nice 1993 set for sale.

Yes I saw, but for $27k+ they can keep it. I paid my 1979 set double the price of gold spot.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KonaJim on August 06, 2011, 03:45:57 PM
With rare coins the content of the metal becomes irrelevant.  I can think of many examples.  There are copper coins that sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars.  The 1997 10 yuan platinum panda is a $ 20,000.00 coin.  The price of the 1993 I&D set is about right.  It's a very clean set, too bad one capsule is cracked.  There is a set being auctioned in Germany next month and we will see the pricing.  I sold a 1993 set recently, no box, no coa's but all graded NGC PF69UC for $ 26,000.00.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on August 06, 2011, 04:28:11 PM
With rare coins the content of the metal becomes irrelevant.  I can think of many examples.  There are copper coins that sell for hundreds of thousands of dollars.  The 1997 10 yuan platinum panda is a $ 20,000.00 coin.  The price of the 1993 I&D set is about right.  It's a very clean set, too bad one capsule is cracked.  There is a set being auctioned in Germany next month and we will see the pricing.  I sold a 1993 set recently, no box, no coa's but all graded NGC PF69UC for $ 26,000.00.

Yes I agree. It's just a better feeling getting them as close to spot as possible.  I just cant afford them!

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on August 08, 2011, 12:14:25 AM
I'm sure that's a great rule in a organized, rising market, like in the inflationary periods we've seen.  But in a deflationary time, it's prudent to have a mix with no premium ie bullion, because the high end high premium stuff might have no buyers, and be hard to liquidate, hence the premium diminishes, hence loss of money. I'll defer though to the longer term guys who lived through the 2007- 2008 asset drop, as to what they saw.
It's all about where you are in the cycle, that determines what is a good investment.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on August 08, 2011, 12:26:33 AM
Yep, that's good advice. If you buy bullion, you want the cheapest bullion available, with no premium at all if possible.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 13, 2011, 08:54:35 PM
I know these pictures are horrible but I took them with my Iphone.
I looked at the coins under magnification and they appeared in excellent shape. 

Here are four gold pandas just in from APMEX in OMP that I sent off yesterday to NCS/NCG
1983 1 oz Gold Panda
2005 1 oz Gold Panda
1982 .25 oz Gold Panda
2011 .25 oz Gold Panda
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/Goldpandas81311.jpg)
They are nothing exotic but it is gold and they are pandas so I’m happy. :001_smile:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: taciturn on August 15, 2011, 03:59:55 PM
Hi,

here another buy today.
Panda Bimetallic coin set 1997

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 17, 2011, 02:36:30 PM
WOW taciturn that is a phenomenal bimetal panda set ... I want one like that !!! Great score man !!!  :w00t:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Grip on August 17, 2011, 06:14:45 PM
Yep, that's good advice. If you buy bullion, you want the cheapest bullion available, with no premium at all if possible.
This is off subject, but let me know if you find gold/silver bullion with little or no premium-I'm all in!! The Sprott physical silver CEF (PSLV) has traded at a premium to NAV of 15-23% since it came to market (took them almost three months to get their silver). The Comex is paying at least a 30% dollar premium for contract holders not to take delivery at settlement. I find it telling that the cheapest gold to buy earlier this year was the Sprott physical gold CEF (PHYS) that was trading at less than 1.8% to NAV. It has moved up to about 4% to NAV, but as the PM's enter the parabolic move of phase three of this bull market, I expect the premiums on these CEF's to go to 30-50% -or more. The Sprott CEF's have fully allocated metal to back their outstanding shares-unlike GLD/SLV. This is long, but well worth watching....  

http://goldsilver.com/video/debt-collapse-the-case-for-20-000-gold-mike-maloney-full-presentation/
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Grip on August 17, 2011, 06:30:45 PM
Hi,

here another buy today.
Panda Bimetallic coin set 1997


These are totally awesome! Great Job!!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Grip on August 17, 2011, 06:34:15 PM
I know these pictures are horrible but I took them with my Iphone.
I looked at the coins under magnification and they appeared in excellent shape. 

Here are four gold pandas just in from APMEX in OMP that I sent off yesterday to NCS/NCG
1983 1 oz Gold Panda
2005 1 oz Gold Panda
1982 .25 oz Gold Panda
2011 .25 oz Gold Panda
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/Goldpandas81311.jpg)
They are nothing exotic but it is gold and they are pandas so I’m happy. :001_smile:
I hope the early dates get a 68/69. Most of these were mishandled and the higher grades are tough to find.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: buynicething on August 17, 2011, 07:34:54 PM
Its not gold like comeaux's beautiful pandas, but it is the only 70
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Grip on August 17, 2011, 08:12:47 PM
Its not gold like comeaux's beautiful pandas, but it is the only 70

AWESOME!!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 17, 2011, 09:10:53 PM
wow buynicething that coin is phenomenal ... congrats on the 70 !!!

I don't know much about those coins but from what I do know I believe this one is very rare and highly valuable isn't it?

What would this coin auction off at? Oh yea I see you've had it NCS conserved as well ... very nice !

good on you man for such a nice collectible !
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mrslick32 on August 17, 2011, 09:42:58 PM
Its not gold like comeaux's beautiful pandas, but it is the only 70


I love the design of your coin and it looks really nice! Congratulations on getting the 70.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on August 17, 2011, 09:51:29 PM
Here they are, 1995 Kwan Yin 1/2 ounce silver set with mintage of 3,000 in OMP and 1995 Mazu 1/2 ounce silver coin with mintage of 8000 all double sealed with COA.
Now why would I send them to the slaughter house, just the thought    :scared:

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 17, 2011, 09:55:44 PM
Most of these were mishandled and the higher grades are tough to find.
yes grip you have a valid point here and that is a concern for me. My last gold panda (new orleans 1987) graded at 69 so I am optimistic and these coins did look pretty good although the pics were horribe, the plastic on the older coins affected the pics too.

Well I may know by tomorrow as I expedited them (I'm impatient) and called today, they were printing the labels so hopefully quality control/finalized/imaged/shipped tomorrow !   :001_smile:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on August 17, 2011, 09:56:11 PM
1995 Kwan Yin 1/2 ounce double sealed set with COA in OMP

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 17, 2011, 09:58:06 PM
Now why would I send them to the slaughter house, just the thought    :scared:
exchange
I'm a strong beleiver in NCS/NGC however in my opinion coins such as this should be left as they are.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on August 17, 2011, 10:02:12 PM
I'm a strong beleiver in NCS/NGC however in my opinion coins such as this should be left as they are.

Thank you.

Your gold Pandas are magnificent, I still have all of mine in OMP. I also just received the 2001D 1 ounce.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 17, 2011, 10:22:06 PM
Very nice 2001-D !!! :001_smile: I still need to get this one.

I am just starting to begin sending in some of my 1 oz gold pandas to NGC and will be getting more out of the bank next week to send in as well.

Yea I know there has been alot of discussion about graded verses OMP and i think both sides have valid reasons to support their views, I think it's just a matter of preference.

Although I do have the majority of my S10Y pandas graded, I still have many in OMP and will never grade such as my 5oz's, commemoratives & 2007 Anniversary set.

I buy and have bought nearly every one of my pandas in OMP before having them graded and have done well but many still remain in OMP and will always be in that state.

There are situations such as am MS69 2000 Mirror or MS69 1995 Micro that I felt better buying NGC graded.

In any case, all of these coins you have uploaded I am 100% behind you that I would not graded them as well.

They are beautiful, rare & just as valuable as they sit right now. That is just my opinion.

Very , very nice coins indeed man  :001_smile:

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on August 17, 2011, 10:39:03 PM
Very nice 2001-D !!! :001_smile: I still need to get this one.

I am just starting to begin sending in some of my 1 oz gold pandas to NGC and will be getting more out of the bank next week to send in as well.

Yea I know there has been alot of discussion about graded verses OMP and i think both sides have valid reasons to support their views, I think it's just a matter of preference.

Although I do have the majority of my S10Y pandas graded, I still have many in OMP and will never grade such as my 5oz's, commemoratives & 2007 Anniversary set.

I buy and have bought nearly every one of my pandas in OMP before having them graded and have done well but many still remain in OMP and will always be in that state.

There are situations such as am MS69 2000 Mirror or MS69 1995 Micro that I felt better buying NGC graded.

In any case, all of these coins you have uploaded I am 100% behind you that I would not graded them as well.

They are beautiful, rare & just as valuable as they sit right now. That is just my opinion.

Very , very nice coins indeed man  :001_smile:



Thank you.

Very good points. Do you keep the OMP?  When you sell your graded coins one day, you can include their OMP and grade receipts so it proves to the buyer you were the original owner prior to them been graded. That could increase the confidence of the buyer knowing who the original owner was before it was removed from the pouch.

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mrslick32 on August 17, 2011, 10:41:22 PM
Thank you.

Very good points. Do you keep the OMP?  When you sell your graded coins one day, you can include their OMP and grade receipts so it proves to the buyer you were the original owner prior to them been graded. That could increase the confidence of the buyer knowing who the original owner was before it was removed from the pouch.

sincerely,
exchange

I totally agree with this. Even if I buy graded coins, I would like the OMP to be included.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 17, 2011, 11:02:53 PM
Do you keep the OMP?
I must have swallowed some dumb pills which hindered logical thinking so no I did not keep the OMP but really wish I would have for all the reasons you have stated, not to mention it would have made it possible to identify the various mints on certain coins. This was a newbie mistake on my part. :(
   
From this point forward I will be keeping the OMP on all of my coins before grading.
 
On a side note I’m curious why gold pandas are not double sealed? Since gold is much softer than silver this only would seem sensible. I’m hoping that future mintages of gold pandas are double sealed and that the silver coins would revert back to double seal packaging. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: digbird on August 18, 2011, 06:24:53 PM
Nice set of Kuwan Yin's "exchange"...I like them in the OMP's.

Comeaux raises a good point. Why aren't the gold pieces double sealed from the mint? Would have perhaps saved one of my coins. I just received it in the mail, and upon opening the package the seal on one end of the pouch was cracked because it was dry and the coin fell out and rolled out of my dinning room and into my kitchen. Rim nicks on my dragon. The air was blue in my house for a few hours. To bad the China mints don't have a suggestion box? cheers   
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Post by: comeaux on August 18, 2011, 06:40:04 PM
Rim nicks on my dragon
:lol:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 19, 2011, 12:18:26 PM
I guess this 1983 grading at MS69 further substantiates that gold coins left in their OMP for 30 years can remain in mint condition.  :001_smile:
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/Apmexorder486589.jpg)
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/Goldpandas81311.jpg)
I was bummed about the 1982 as being “tooled” as it was also in OMP and I have always gotten very good NGC grades from my APMEX pandas which made this particular one anomalous.

Good news is I sent this NGC order to APMEX and they amiably agreed to issue me a credit or exchange plus pay shipping and grading cost so no buzzkill for me ! :001_smile:   
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Grip on August 19, 2011, 05:18:00 PM
Superb grade for the 83!!! Congrat's...
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on August 19, 2011, 05:27:14 PM
"I was bummed about the 1982 as being “tooled” as it was also in OMP ..."

In looking more closely, it appears maybe the mint pouch was resealed..?..
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: catfury on August 20, 2011, 10:37:07 PM
My favorite Chinese coin series -- Bronze age finds / Unearthed Artifacts. This is a 1992 set.
Fyi, this series is one of a very few Chinese coin series THAT DO NOT have nation's (People's Republic of China) name on either side.. This is actually quite weird, or even possibly a design error, they have face values because they are legal tenders. Few other examples are some 1980 lunar coins and some early sports theme sets. 
Anyway they are really beautiful.





 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on August 20, 2011, 11:01:11 PM
Congrats! Gorgeous coins! They are hard to find in 69. Any idea how i can get my hands on the Resting Deer & the Lantern one.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mrslick32 on August 21, 2011, 12:10:38 AM
Congratulations Catfury! These are good looking coins. I'm always interested to see the rare and beautiful coins that members of this forum have on their collection.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 21, 2011, 09:19:47 PM
In looking more closely, it appears maybe the mint pouch was resealed..?..
Maybe it was just the picture but no it was not resealed from what I could tell. I inspect all of my OMP very closely and to the best of my ability I could not visually see any signs of being resealed. The APMEX director of Numismatics was very cool about it and said of the 4 he had remaining he would pick the best one in his opinion for my replacement. That plus paying grading/shipping is a fair business deal. I'm happy with it ...

Oh and awesome bunch of coins you have there catfury very nice set indeed  :001_smile:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 24, 2011, 05:45:57 PM
Got this in from NCS/NGC a day ago ... just another crappy panda from APMEX but I'm happy with it  :001_smile:

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/1983panda.jpg)

I know everyone has noticed the huge delay when submitting "World Modern" to NGC which is now about 30 to 40 working days but I have noticed that when submitting through NCS my orders like that have processed much faster.

For example one of the orders I am waiting on was submitted to NCS on 8-9-11 and I checked online today, it's already in quality control today !

Here is the 1987 that I got from Panda America last month for $1,708 and it also graded PF69 ... I really like this coin.

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/1987nola.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on August 24, 2011, 05:52:08 PM
Nice !  I see a lot of those 1987 New Orleans that don't grade that well. That one is gorgeous.  Worth a cool 1k more than you paid, at that grade.   That gets a strong UB :thumbup1:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: buynicething on August 25, 2011, 02:27:21 PM
Just got my first Munich.
I am wondering though if this is the original seal.
I have never seen anything like it.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on August 25, 2011, 03:22:31 PM
Just got my first Munich.
I am wondering though if this is the original seal.
I have never seen anything like it.


The seal looks like its from the Shenyeng mint. Do you have the COA because that is key. Usually on the COA it is indicated where the coin was minted.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on August 25, 2011, 03:27:54 PM
The seal looks like its from the Shenyeng mint. Do you have the COA because that is key. Usually on the COA it is indicated where the coin was minted.

exchange

also wanted to add..... the plastic pouch appears to be from the Shenyeng mint, if on the COA it also confirms that, chances are it is an original seal.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on August 25, 2011, 04:32:57 PM
I had a great morning at a local coin shop ! 

A 2002 Gold Panda 1/2 oz in the original packaging for $920.00

A 1999 Gold Panda  1/10 oz (large date) in the original packaging for $200.00

A 1984 Gold Panda 1/4 oz in the presentation box for $453.00 







Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on August 27, 2011, 04:41:26 AM
These are my 1994 Small Date Gold Panda and a 2000 Frosted Gold Panda in OMP.  These pandas will be sent to NCS and NGC for conservation and grading this Monday.  Wish me luck on the grading.  They will be my first gold pandas to be submitted for grading.  Being a rookie on CCF,  NGC recommends that you place each coin in a non-pvc coin flip prior to shipment.  I usually follow their recommendations.  Does any CCF members send your Chinese Pandas in their OMP during shipment? I was thinking about doing this as a another means of verifying authenticity of the coin.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Halves on August 27, 2011, 08:36:44 AM
Panda Express.
Great Questions:
For double sealed coins such as your 2000 I never break them from their double seal.
In fact, I typically request that the capsule be returned to me.
Chinese modern coins have the advantage of already being in a plastic pouch. Not all coins come this way so NGC/NCS prefers that they be sent with this method of protection. This is probably a general rule to avoid receiving something like a sock full of old randomized coins they have to dump out on a bench. You have to think in terms of the average coin submitted and Chinese coins are typically above average. I know some people that put them into the recommended non-PVC flips but I simply leave mine in the original plastic. They have been this way for years and the likelihood of them getting damaged further by removing them yourself is probably greater than if you just left them where they were. That being said, I actually believe original sealed coins do not offer sufficient protection from sliding around and getting damaged so I have developed my own personal way to double seal and protect them during shipment. What I do is buy Coin World plastic holders (that typically come with some random sized insert). Then I take the insert out and put my coin inside with it in the original plastic. I fold the flap of the original mint packaging over the coin to offer a bit more padding and to ensure that it doesn’t slide around. I then take all the coin world holders which actually stack very nicely and sandwich them together with a rubber band adding double seal coins on the end then I send them in this way. I’m sure people have other probably less complicated methods but this seems to work for me so I thought I’d share with the community. Coin World holders can be had for $2-$3 and they seem like a good investment. You will not get them back though so it adds a modest fee to your bottom line. I have never had the privilege…. Er… I mean inkling to send in 1 ounce coins but I’d imagine this process would work there too.
PH
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 27, 2011, 09:14:14 AM
Hello Panda Express … very nice Gold Pandas you have here !

The gold pandas up above in my post were sent to NCS where I did just as Panda Halves instructed you and all was fine. I submit my gold pandas to NCS/NGC exactly as Panda Halves has conveyed for the exact same reasons, on the NCS form below each coin entry I type in “Please conserve NCS then grade/encapsulate NGC. Please return all original mint packaging”. 

For some reason I have found when I submit directly to NGC, I don’t always get the mint packaging back but when submitted to NCS before NGC … I always get it back so I don’t know why but that has been my experience.
 
Good luck on your submission !!!  :001_smile:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on August 27, 2011, 09:40:58 AM
These are my 1994 Small Date Gold Panda and a 2000 Frosted Gold Panda in OMP.  These pandas will be sent to NCS and NGC for conservation and grading this Monday.  Wish me luck on the grading.  They will be my first gold pandas to be submitted for grading.  Being a rookie on CCF,  NGC recommends that you place each coin in a non-pvc coin flip prior to shipment.  I usually follow their recommendations.  Does any CCF members send your Chinese Pandas in their OMP during shipment? I was thinking about doing this as a another means of verifying authenticity of the coin.

Gorgeous coins, especially the double sealed 2000. Considering only two years (2000 and 1999) where the gold pandas were double sealed, it really is a shame to send them out. 

exchange

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on August 27, 2011, 09:48:42 AM
PH, I certainly learn something new every time I view this forum especially coming from CCF members whom I routinely follow.  I will certainly keep these gold pandas in their original pouches as recommended by you during shipment.  I will also request for the OMP.  Thanks for your advise.  On another side note,  I see you have a beautiful rare 1994 half oz. panda as your coin logo.  Your coin has a very limited mintage of  16,788 with only 2000 coins in BU condition.  In the not to distant future,  I would like to complete a 1994 small date collection.   
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on August 27, 2011, 10:02:45 AM
Gorgeous coins, especially the double sealed 2000. Considering only two years (2000 and 1999) where the gold pandas were double sealed, it really is a shame to send them out. 

exchange

Exchange, most of my panda collections are in slabbed NGC coin holders which I prefer over OMP.  I had second thoughts on sending my 2000 frosted panda for grading for the same reason you just stated. From an investment perspective since I am holding my collection for at least 5-10 years, would certified graded coins have an advantage over OMP? I would definitely like to hear your thoughts concerning this matter.

Thanks.

Panda Express
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on August 27, 2011, 10:24:33 AM
Hello Comeaux!  Thanks for those encouraging words.  I will definitely be needing it during my upcoming NGC grading.  I also want to congratulate you for your high scores on your gorgeous looking 1 oz gold pandas.  Incidentally, you are 2 years ahead of me, and I am holding on to my collection for all the same reasons when your first introduce yourself to the forum. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Halves on August 27, 2011, 11:05:45 AM
I see you have a beautiful rare 1994 half oz. panda as your coin logo.  Your coin has a very limited mintage of  16,788 with only 2000 coins in BU condition.  In the not to distant future,  I would like to complete a 1994 small date collection.  


The 1994 BU coins are sweet but this one is something even more special  :001_smile:
Notice the small "P" to the left of the Panda's back? It is the proof version not BU.

Authorized mintage is 2,000
Actual Mintage is 903
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 27, 2011, 11:44:02 AM
I am holding on to my collection for all the same reasons when you first introduce yourself to the forum.
It’s great to see someone else collecting for the same reasons! My wife joking claims I am much too enthusiastic with this panda collection for it to be only for our son but honestly that is most of the excitement building this collection. Panda Collector stated “nothing like a new arrival in the family to give dad a sharper focus” and he is right on with that statement.

Here are the pictures of gold pandas I submitted yesterday and as you can see they are exactly as Panda Halves did as well. This is two 1 oz & five .25 oz pandas and as you can see they are not exciting dates but hey they are gold pandas ... much better than any American Eagle or Canadian Maple ! :laugh:
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/goldpandas82611.jpg)   
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mrslick32 on August 27, 2011, 02:57:11 PM
Maybe it was just the picture but no it was not resealed from what I could tell. I inspect all of my OMP very closely and to the best of my ability I could not visually see any signs of being resealed. The APMEX director of Numismatics was very cool about it and said of the 4 he had remaining he would pick the best one in his opinion for my replacement. That plus paying grading/shipping is a fair business deal. I'm happy with it ...

Oh and awesome bunch of coins you have there catfury very nice set indeed  :001_smile:

How did you get in touch with the Director of Numismatics? It would be great if one can buy a coin and the seller will say that he or she will choose the best coin if there are multiple coins available.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 27, 2011, 03:33:18 PM
Apparently my email to apmex returns department expressing dissatisfaction was forwarded to him and then he responded to me. The fact that my membership there is now “gold member” may have had some influence but I’m not sure. All I know is that he did as promised … I just received my replacement 1982 panda in OMP today and from what I can tell under magnification he did an excellent job picking one for me. :001_smile:
I’ll be sending it to NCS/NGC on Monday so I will soon find out what it grades.
 
Here are the pictures which are not that great because of the plastic but the coin looks phenomenal.
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/1982panda.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on August 27, 2011, 03:48:09 PM


Hi Panda Express,

I hold bullion and then I hold Pandas. Pandas to me is something I will sell last if at all. It is surely an investment just like my bullion, but unlike my bullion it has significant numismatic value even though Pandas were originally meant as bullion. It is because they were meant as bullion with low mintages they are so much sought after.

Most in this forum will grade any coin that comes across their hands because of the conservation theory and what "supposely" NGC does to protect coins long term. Many articles on that subject have been written and both sides have valid points. When a coin comes in a plastic pouch and all coins from the series have the same OMP I guess grading them isn't a big deal, but when out of all those years, only two of them come in a different OMP such as double sealed then I believe paying for plastic will come into play........ (resealing is another issue).

Before I sell any of my Pandas, I will sell every other coin I have. The gold pandas I hope to leave to my children one day. I am very fortunate to have started buying Pandas in 2008 and premiums for them back them were non existent.

Sincerely,
exchange

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on August 27, 2011, 03:53:26 PM
It’s great to see someone else collecting for the same reasons! My wife joking claims I am much too enthusiastic with this panda collection for it to be only for our son but honestly that is most of the excitement building this collection. Panda Collector stated “nothing like a new arrival in the family to give dad a sharper focus” and he is right on with that statement.

Here are the pictures of gold pandas I submitted yesterday and as you can see they are exactly as Panda Halves did as well. This is two 1 oz & five .25 oz pandas and as you can see they are not exciting dates but hey they are gold pandas ... much better than any American Eagle or Canadian Maple ! :laugh:
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/goldpandas82611.jpg)   

Spectacular coins. One regret I have when I started buying Pandas in 2008, I only concentrated on the 1 ounces, I never bothered looking at the fractionals. I was paying something like $30 to $40 over spot for most of the Pandas I got. Back then I just did not want to pay the higher premiums for the fractionals compare to the 1 ounces..........  oh well at least I have all the one ounces.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on August 27, 2011, 11:45:55 PM
Quote
Hi Panda Express,

I hold bullion and then I hold Pandas. Pandas to me is something I will sell last if at all. It is surely an investment just like my bullion, but unlike my bullion it has significant numismatic value even though Pandas were originally meant as bullion. It is because they were meant as bullion with low mintages they are so much sought after.

Most in this forum will grade any coin that comes across their hands because of the conservation theory and what "supposely" NGC does to protect coins long term. Many articles on that subject have been written and both sides have valid points. When a coin comes in a plastic pouch and all coins from the series have the same OMP I guess grading them isn't a big deal, but when out of all those years, only two of them come in a different OMP such as double sealed then I believe paying for plastic will come into play........ (resealing is another issue).

Before I sell any of my Pandas, I will sell every other coin I have. The gold pandas I hope to leave to my children one day. I am very fortunate to have started buying Pandas in 2008 and premiums for them back them were non existent.

Sincerely,
exchange



Hello Exchange, I certainly share the same sentiments on owning bullion and numismatic gold panda coins.  During the early part of 2008, I too began to invest in gold and silver bullion mostly gold eagles, buffalo, and Canadian maple leafs strictly as a means of preservation of wealth and investment.  I also bought pre-1933 British sovereigns as another means of asset protection from the remote possibility that the US government may nationalize gold.  From a historical perspective dating back from the Great Depression, holders of numismatic gold coins were protected from Executive Order No. 6102.  My only mistake was not investing in modern Chinese numismatic coins at the time.  I only started collecting and investing in Chinese gold and silver coins during the early part of this year.  I just hope the prices of panda bullion and proofs do not sky rocket to fast to the point that it will be out of reach for most collectors and investors alike. Due to limited mintages of panda coins and the gaining popularity of these beautiful rarities, I soon began to realize that these coins were far outpacing my other investments which began my interest in these coins.  Additionally, considering modern gold panda bullion may be subject to the possible nationalization of gold, I have all my panda collections slabbed and certified by 3rd party grading companies preferably NGC to preserve its numismatic significance as compared to holding OMP Chinese panda coins.

Cheers!


Panda Express
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on August 28, 2011, 12:01:03 AM
Quote
The 1994 BU coins are sweet but this one is something even more special 
Notice the small "P" to the left of the Panda's back? It is the proof version not BU.

Authorized mintage is 2,000
Actual Mintage is 903

Wow Panda Halves!  You really have a winning 1994 Panda half proof, a true gem.  I totally overlooked that peculiarity of your coin. I may need to get my eyes checked out. lol.   :001_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on August 28, 2011, 03:09:39 PM
oh well at least I have all the one ounces.
exchange
Yea that's a bummer when all you have is multiple one ounce gold pandas !!!  :w00t:
I'm just kidding you but no really that's really totally awesome to have all of the one ounce gold pandas, very nice !

I'm kind of like you with the fractionals and predominately I buy the one ounce gold pandas but more and more lately I've been picking up the fractionals as well to complete my sets. I have a really nice order in route to me now and plan on getting more of the fractionals in the future.

Panda Halves that is an extremly nice/rare panda you have in your collection bud ! :001_smile: 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on August 29, 2011, 01:09:57 PM
Just picked up another 1/10 1999 Panda this morning.

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j330/Austinfarrell/2011-08-29_12-46-29_402.jpg)

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j330/Austinfarrell/2011-08-29_12-46-09_734.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: arksight on September 02, 2011, 07:50:10 PM
Hello everyone! I've been reading this forum for few weeks, and  have learned a lot valuable knowledge about collecting Chinese modern coins.
Just received a 1989 God of Wealth NGC PF69 last night and I am not sure if it's legit as it is not exactly the same as the picture from NGC website. Can anyone give me some advises? The cert number is 3452783-007. Thanks in advance!!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaOrLunar on September 02, 2011, 08:01:04 PM
...not exactly the same as the picture from NGC website...

Not the same how?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: peng_you on September 02, 2011, 08:03:36 PM
looks like the same coin to me.
Peng_you
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: arksight on September 02, 2011, 09:11:41 PM
The coin itself looks almost the same, but if you compare it to the picture from NGC, the direction of the coin or the chinese character is not the same. Mine is pointing toward 11 o'clock, and NGC picture is pointing at 12 o'clock. Also, the inner white holder is a bit loose.
And thanks for the replies, PandaOrLunar and peng_you !!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on September 03, 2011, 12:58:53 AM
Coins can rotate in their holders during shipping, or if they're moved suddenly. This could be a problem if it touches the plastic. Keep that in mind if you ever need to ship it. I ship loose coins in a larger box than necessary, since the large box doesn't rotate or move very fast.

Beautiful coin by the way.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: arksight on September 03, 2011, 01:51:59 AM
Badon,

Thanks for the advise! That explain everything. the coin is very loose in fact it almost touches the plastic. I only bought it after I read your post about the varieties of GOW.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 04, 2011, 02:17:39 PM
I consider this set to be one of the most beautiful silver coins I have. Collecting such coins gives you an inspiration to learn a culture in more detail.

The back of the coins is a horse and a cat. Mr. Beihong was very famous for painting horses.
Mintage of 8,500.

I personally regard these coins above any Panda I have, and I do have almost every single one ounce gold panda from every year.

Here is some information about Xu Beihong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xu_Beihong

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 04, 2011, 02:22:12 PM
Front of coins.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on September 04, 2011, 04:09:25 PM
Quote
Panda Halves … The 1994 BU coins are sweet but this one is something even more special   
Notice the small "P" to the left of the Panda's back? It is the proof version not BU.

Authorized mintage is 2,000
Actual Mintage is 903


Hello Panda Halve you have an exceptional collection, very very nice as well as your 1994 proof panda but I’m just curious how you derived the 903 number actually minted of the ½ ounce 1994 gold panda proof?

From what I’m reading the actual mintage is/was 2,500

I’m not questioning the validity of your claim just curious how you came to that number?
Thanks
Randy

Oh yea and very nice set of coins Exchange … where would someone buy coins like this?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 04, 2011, 04:15:57 PM

Oh yea and very nice set of coins Exchange … where would someone buy coins like this?


Hi comeaux,

Xu happens to have one set available.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1995-27g-silver-coins-the-centenary-xubeihongbirth-/250874116729?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a69433a79#ht_1930wt_955

The mintage is actually 8,000, not 8,500.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on September 04, 2011, 07:16:16 PM
Exchange … Thanks for that information/link, I haven’t broached into other Chinese coins outside of the pandas yet but this set you have here along with others like the God of wealth and Unicorn coins (and many more) are starting to peak my interest.

Are the coins pictured in the link in their original mint packaging? I know that the coins you have pictured look in amazing condition.

On a side note I recently purchased this Chinese Coin Book and although its written in Chinese, I find it very interesting as it apparently has a picture of many (maybe all I don’t know) Chinese coins minted since 1979 as well as the fractionals too along with their actual mintages.
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/chinesecoinbook.jpg?t=1315177200)

Even my wife (who is not into coins at all) found this book captivating and actually went through the entire book. Since you seem to collect a variety of Chinese coins you may want to invest in this book. I really hope that this book will be available in English some day. I find it amazing.       
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 04, 2011, 07:32:38 PM
Exchange … Thanks for that information/link, I haven’t broached into other Chinese coins outside of the pandas yet but this set you have here along with others like the God of wealth and Unicorn coins (and many more) are starting to peak my interest.

Are the coins pictured in the link in their original mint packaging? I know that the coins you have pictured look in amazing condition.

On a side note I recently purchased this Chinese Coin Book and although its written in Chinese, I find it very interesting as it apparently has a picture of many (maybe all I don’t know) Chinese coins minted since 1979 as well as the fractionals too along with their actual mintages.
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/chinesecoinbook.jpg?t=1315177200)

Even my wife (who is not into coins at all) found this book captivating and actually went through the entire book. Since you seem to collect a variety of Chinese coins you may want to invest in this book. I really hope that this book will be available in English some day. I find it amazing.       

Hi Comeaux,

The link I sent you is and seems to be all original including the packaging. They were minted at the Shanghai mint as per the COA and their seal is appropriate for the mint. Also there is a red gift box that protects the wooden box were the coins are. Xu does not have a picture of that but it should be there.

Thank for the info on the book, I did see it in the past but never ordered it, I most definitely will.

Sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on September 06, 2011, 12:30:47 PM
Some of my gold pandas just graded at NCS/NGC ... although it is only *yawn* a 2011 Gold 1 oz Panda ... it is a 70 ! I'm happy  :001_smile: Population at NGC is 35

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/NCSorder3550271_MS70.jpg) 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on September 07, 2011, 12:36:28 PM
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/Apmexorder486589.jpg)
I was bummed about the 1982 as being “tooled” as it was also in OMP and I have always gotten very good NGC grades from my APMEX pandas which made this particular one anomalous.
Good news is I sent this NGC order to APMEX and they amiably agreed to issue me a credit or exchange plus pay shipping and grading cost so no buzzkill for me !

Excellent customer service from APMEX, exchanging coins, paying shipping and grading cost and sending me another 1982 panda that just graded MS69 ... it just finalized/imaged/shipped so I'm really happy with their service.
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/1982panda-1.jpg)

We all have opinions and I know APMEX is not liked by many on this forum but in my case I have always gotten phenomenal customers support and very nice items. Some people claim their premium is too high which that may be the case but I have compared their prices with some of the "favorite" coin dealers here and find them cheaper most of the time on many of the items.

I have asked here several times and never got a resonse but I would like a link to another website/dealer that has as many varieties of Silver/Gold Chinese Pandas in order to have another source of large varieties if there is one. Any help is appreciated !!! :001_smile:   
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 07, 2011, 01:11:49 PM
Some of my gold pandas just graded at NCS/NGC ... although it is only *yawn* a 2011 Gold 1 oz Panda ... it is a 70 ! I'm happy  :001_smile: Population at NGC is 35

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/NCSorder3550271_MS70.jpg) 

Hi Comeaux,

Congrats on your coins.

I think Apmex is fantastic. Their customer support is so far above all else. Their prices I think are very competitive, especially for OMP Pandas. I don't bother going to any dealers for Pandas in OMP, Apmex usually has them without fuss.

exchange

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on September 07, 2011, 01:20:38 PM
Hi Comeaux,

Congrats on your coins.

I think Apmex is fantastic. Their customer support is so far above all else. Their prices I think are very competitive, especially for OMP Pandas. I don't bother going to any dealers for Pandas in OMP, Apmex usually has them without fuss.
exchange

Thanks man ! And wow that's great to hear Exchange and I feel the same way. It seems that I have searched endlessly and have not ever found a site that had anywhere close to the vast selection that APMEX has. This was the first time I have ever had to return a coin and they handled it flawlessly !
It's great to hear that another highly reputable CCB member here has the same opinion about APMEX  :001_smile:
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Post by: exchange on September 07, 2011, 01:34:50 PM
Thanks man ! And wow that's great to hear Exchange and I feel the same way. It seems that I have searched endlessly and have not ever found a site that had anywhere close to the vast selection that APMEX has. This was the first time I have ever had to return a coin and they handled it flawlessly !
It's great to hear that another highly reputable CCB member here has the same opinion about APMEX  :001_smile:

Absolutely, and I just had to return a coin a few weeks ago because they advertised a 1999 Panda in OMP with serif doubled sealed for $2400 when in fact it was the one without. Nonetheless I think it was a good price even forthat one but I already have, if not I would of kept it. The return was flawless.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Pandora on September 07, 2011, 06:26:25 PM
If you can afford the prices, APMEX is an excellent source of chinese coins in OMP. I have not found an spot or toning on any of the coin I have purchased from them. Their customer service is fantastic.

Recently, I think they have started to greatly expand their offerings in gold pandas, and some coins may have fallen through their quality assurance cracks. Sometimes you may not want to get a refund, since the price may have gone up, or you may not be able to get replacements somewhere else. One or more of their chinese coins staff may be less experienced, and sometimes you may get bargains too because of it. :-)

Comeaux, congrats on your 1982 and 1983 pandas! Excellent coins. Some of the 1982 fever will surely spill over to 1983 and 1984, and all these first 3 years will greatly appreciate!
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Post by: GuyMc on September 07, 2011, 07:03:08 PM
These are APMEX coins I just got back today. Graded pretty well except first one. Their service has been excellent for me.

Coins for NGC invoice number

LineItem Year Mint Mark Variety/Pedigree Denom. Grade Comments
001 1991 CHINA PANDA G25Y MS 67   
002 1991 CHINA PANDA G25Y MS 69   
003 1991 CHINA PANDA G25Y MS 69   
004 1991 CHINA PANDA G25Y MS 68   
005 1991 CHINA PANDA G25Y MS 69   
006 1997 CHINA PANDA G50Y MS 68   
007 2003 CHINA PANDA G200Y MS 69   
008 1982 CHINA PANDA 1/4OZ MS 69 

Guy
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Post by: Pandora on September 07, 2011, 07:06:03 PM
Great grades! Did you send them to NCS before NGC?
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Post by: GuyMc on September 07, 2011, 07:07:33 PM
Yes, I did. Turnaround was actually pretty good.

Guy
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Post by: comeaux on September 07, 2011, 07:24:16 PM
WOW ... That is phenomenal Guy !!! very nice coins, I know you must be very happy I know I would be !

That's great for you man, very nice indeed  :001_smile:

oh and i wanted to add that I now send ALL of my submissions to NCS first and I don't know if it's just a coincidence but the turnaround seems faster for some reason when submitted to NCS first.   
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Post by: GuyMc on September 07, 2011, 07:46:30 PM
Comeaux...indeed pleased with that batch (congrats to you also). I got the dreaded Questionable Authen on 2 of my 2000 Silver Frosted coins. I submitted 4 in ogp from same dealer..1 69, 1 68, 2 questionable. Put them side by side and just don't get it. I also got some of my images back and some not. I even got images from another persons order so I have to straighten that out tomorrow (somebody got a PF69 on a 83 silver panda so they should be happy). Always fun getting your grades back (at least most of the time!).

Guy
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Post by: mazinger7000 on September 08, 2011, 07:44:40 PM
just found this at the long beach coin convention-- can anyone help me identify the variety? i'm wondering if this is a ghost claw or just clear claw? thanks in advance for any help...
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Post by: Bamboo on September 09, 2011, 12:34:40 AM
It is super clear claw.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 10, 2011, 05:37:05 PM
2001 1/10th ounce gold coin in OMP - Chinese Ancient Art Rack Cave - Dun Huang.
Minted at the Shenzhen Guobao mint, confirmed both on COA and on the seal of the plastic pouch of the coin.
Mintage 50,000.

exchange
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Post by: comeaux on September 10, 2011, 09:38:32 PM
I'm envious Exchange !!! Very nice coin man !!! great for you bro  :001_smile:

I know your opinion on grading and I'm with you on keeping this in OMP !
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Post by: exchange on September 10, 2011, 10:36:49 PM
I'm envious Exchange !!! Very nice coin man !!! great for you bro  :001_smile:

I know your opinion on grading and I'm with you on keeping this in OMP !

Thank you Comeaux.
A classic and timeless design.

exchange
 
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Post by: dragonfan on September 11, 2011, 08:09:56 AM
Congratulations exchange, yes a classic and timeless design; gorgeous piece!
From this series, I strongly recommand the 2000 2oz silver restangular "devata" 6 coins set, magical!
2001 1/10th ounce gold coin in OMP - Chinese Ancient Art Rack Cave - Dun Huang.
Minted at the Shenzhen Guobao mint, confirmed both on COA and on the seal of the plastic pouch of the coin.
Mintage 50,000.

exchange
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Post by: exchange on September 11, 2011, 12:22:52 PM
Congratulations exchange, yes a classic and timeless design; gorgeous piece!
From this series, I strongly recommand the 2000 2oz silver restangular "devata" 6 coins set, magical!

Hi Dragonfan,

Thank you.
I definitely will look into your recommendation.
I believe its the 100th Anniversary of the Discovery of Dun Huang Rack Cave with Buddhist silver coin set.

sincerely,
exchange
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Post by: comeaux on September 11, 2011, 01:50:49 PM
My newest addition to my sons collection ... I really like this coin  :001_smile:

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/11991bi-metallicproof.jpg)
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Post by: fractalfate on September 11, 2011, 03:08:24 PM
The bi-metals are stunning in person.
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Post by: comeaux on September 11, 2011, 03:45:28 PM
I've never seen one in person so I'm getting ready to experience it !

I just ordered this coin for $2250 and think I got a great deal ... I know one big dealer right now who has an identical one listed for over $5000 ... regardless of a great deal or not I'm still pretty happy with this coin.

I'm hoping twenty years from now when people see Tinky's collection that someone will be telling my son ... "your dad was pretty smart" ! :001_smile:
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Post by: exchange on September 11, 2011, 06:11:12 PM
I've never seen one in person so I'm getting ready to experience it !

I just ordered this coin for $2250 and think I got a great deal ... I know one big dealer right now who has an identical one listed for over $5000 ... regardless of a great deal or not I'm still pretty happy with this coin.

I'm hoping twenty years from now when people see Tinky's collection that someone will be telling my son ... "your dad was pretty smart" ! :001_smile:

Very nice coin, I was never really a fan of Bimetals. I sort of put them in the same category as colored coins. Off course they are not the same but for some reason thats how I always percieved them.

exchange
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Post by: comeaux on September 11, 2011, 09:31:42 PM
I sort of put them in the same category as colored coins.
exchange
Yea I do to ... in the "Silver & Gold" color category  :001_smile:
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Post by: exchange on September 11, 2011, 10:53:45 PM
Yea I do to ... in the "Silver & Gold" color category  :001_smile:

nice, I like that!

exchange
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 12, 2011, 10:36:31 AM
Something to share my latest ungraded rare sets.

SUBJECT : BEIJING SCENERY GOLD SET OF 4   1979
Each coin weighs 20g, 27mm – 1/2oz. of 91.6% fine gold
Proof Mintage : 2,000

SUBJECT : REVOLUTION SET OF 4  1991
KM # 384, 100 Yuan, 31.1035gm, 0.990 1oz.
Gold 0.9990oz. AGW,
Obv : Building two dates below
Rev : Sun Yat-Sen in uniform, facing denomination at left      
Date : 1979
Proof Mintage : 1,000

KM # 385, 100 Yuan, 8.6000gm, 0.9170
Gold 0.2535oz. AGW,
Sub : 80th Anniversary-1911 Revolution
Obv : Building
Rev : Sun Yat-Sen writing, facing denomination at right
Date : 1991
Proof Mintage : 2,500
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Post by: dobedo on September 12, 2011, 10:45:03 AM
Nice. I like that!
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Post by: exchange on September 12, 2011, 10:51:45 AM
Something to share my latest ungraded rare sets.

SUBJECT : BEIJING SCENERY GOLD SET OF 4   1979
Each coin weighs 20g, 27mm – 1/2oz. of 91.6% fine gold
Proof Mintage : 2,000

SUBJECT : REVOLUTION SET OF 4  1991
KM # 384, 100 Yuan, 31.1035gm, 0.990 1oz.
Gold 0.9990oz. AGW,
Obv : Building two dates below
Rev : Sun Yat-Sen in uniform, facing denomination at left      
Date : 1979
Proof Mintage : 1,000

KM # 385, 100 Yuan, 8.6000gm, 0.9170
Gold 0.2535oz. AGW,
Sub : 80th Anniversary-1911 Revolution
Obv : Building
Rev : Sun Yat-Sen writing, facing denomination at right
Date : 1991
Proof Mintage : 2,500

Love the  BEIJING SCENERY GOLD SET OF 4 1979, would go great with my 1979 30th anniversary founding PRC set.

May I ask how much would I be looking to spend on a set like this in OMP?

Thank you,
exchange

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Post by: Pandora on September 12, 2011, 06:26:37 PM
I was able to spot it in the Long Beach Show and bought it. NGC Population 19. PCGS population - just 1.

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Post by: Pandora on September 12, 2011, 06:33:11 PM
Another buy from Long Beach Show. NGC Population 96. PCGS population 18.

The 2002 design was same as 2001, but in this picture, 2002 bear seems to be little thoughtful of a wasted year.

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Post by: comeaux on September 12, 2011, 07:05:52 PM
WOW Straitssettlementshop those sets are extremely beautiful  !!! Very nice ! :001_smile:
Where do you find sets like this ?

Tremendous score on the 2001-D MS70 Pandora … PCGS population 1 and you have it !!!  :001_smile:
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 12, 2011, 09:13:51 PM
WOW Straitssettlementshop those sets are extremely beautiful  !!! Very nice ! :001_smile:
Where do you find sets like this ?

Prices has soften temporarily must take full advantage to buy now when opportunity arise or shall regret later if you miss it.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on September 12, 2011, 10:19:05 PM
Prices has soften temporarily must take full advantage to buy now when opportunity arise
I totally agree with you thats why I have been doing alot of buying lately but selective. After picking up that 1991 25 yuan bimetallic last night, I also picked this up as well. :001_smile:

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/1994proof-1.jpg)
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Post by: comeaux on September 12, 2011, 10:25:14 PM
I just picked up this set ... only 300 of these "Elite Sets" and this COA is #1 :001_smile:

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/1990eliteset.jpg)
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 12, 2011, 10:57:47 PM
The 1994 Proof Panda gold PF69 are near extinction whereas the larger ones like the 1/2oz Panda gold PF69 already extinct.

You have very nice COA number for the elite set.

Thanks for sharing. 
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Post by: Panda Halves on September 12, 2011, 11:03:09 PM
So with the prestige set the 1990 1/4 gold panda is more common than 1/20, 1/2, and 1 ounce proof coins.
Isn't there also a 1990 1/10 prestige gold and platinum set that may have an even higher mintage?

The question that remains is what is the mintage of the other 1990 panda coins?


Is the mintage of all 1990 Proof gold pandas except for 1/10 and 1/4 under 5,000?
or
Do the 1/10 and 1/4 1990 Proof gold pandas have a mintage of over 5,000?

It is an even more ominous question for the 1991 proofs that have a 1/20, 1/10, 1/4 "prestige set."
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Post by: comeaux on September 12, 2011, 11:54:35 PM
As far as the 1990 1/4 oz gold, it is a small date and Peter Anthony’s book says there is an estimated population of 6,000 so I’m not sure what the percentage of this 6,000 would be small dates.

The 1990 1/4 oz platinum shows mintage of 3,500 but no estimate of remaining population.
 
I’m not really sure how “prestigious” this set is but I do like the fact that there are only 300 and I have the first, another cool item to stash in the lock boxes and not to be seen again for a long time  :001_smile:
 
I really can’t believe what I paid for the 1994 1/4 oz PF69 Ultra Cameo it was a gift when compared to some of the prices I saw mentioned here in posts a few months ago and the one or two I saw on ebay about 6 months ago.   
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Post by: Panda Halves on September 13, 2011, 12:10:33 AM
So it is a small date BU!
i stand corrected.
That is very interesting.
Didn't they make a proof prestige Gold 1/4 version?
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Post by: mrslick32 on September 13, 2011, 12:51:43 AM
2001 1/10th ounce gold coin in OMP - Chinese Ancient Art Rack Cave - Dun Huang.
Minted at the Shenzhen Guobao mint, confirmed both on COA and on the seal of the plastic pouch of the coin.
Mintage 50,000.

exchange

I love this one Exchange! I agree that the design looks like a classic work of art.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mrslick32 on September 13, 2011, 01:03:00 AM
Another buy from Long Beach Show. NGC Population 96. PCGS population 18.

The 2002 design was same as 2001, but in this picture, 2002 bear seems to be little thoughtful of a wasted year.



The 2002 silver panda can be very beautiful if you get the extremely frosted version. I have two of those and I intend to send them off to NCS/NGC. I hope they'll get good grades. They are really frosted and I am happy looking at them as small works of art.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 13, 2011, 11:53:01 AM
1993 1/10th gold coin Kwan Yin - mintage 20,000
1994 1/10th gold coin Kwan Yin - mintage 8,000
1997 1/10th gold coin Kwan Yin - mintage 10,000

Owning Kwan Yin coins is like owning a Patek Philippe watch, classic and timeless.

exchange
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Post by: exchange on September 13, 2011, 11:54:49 AM
1994 1/10th gold coin Kwan Yin - mintage 8,000

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 13, 2011, 11:56:29 AM
1997 1/10th gold coin Kwan Yin - mintage 10,000


exchange
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 13, 2011, 01:23:02 PM
Here's my Patek Philippe watch.....Enjoy !

SUBJECT : SEATED KUANYIN  1/10oz.  2003
(GRADED BY NGC PF70)
KM # 1512, 50 Yuan, 3.1104gm, 0.9990
Gold 0.0999oz. AGW, 18mm
Obv : Putuo Mountain Pilgrimage Gate
Rev : Seated Kuanyin with holographic background
Edge : Reeded
Date : 2003
Proof Mintage : 33,000
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Pandora on September 13, 2011, 01:29:47 PM
The 2002 silver panda can be very beautiful if you get the extremely frosted version. I have two of those and I intend to send them off to NCS/NGC. I hope they'll get good grades. They are really frosted and I am happy looking at them as small works of art.

I have not seen any extreme frosted version...do you have photos?
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Post by: Pandora on September 13, 2011, 01:31:00 PM
Exchange and Straitssettlementshop, those are very beautiful Kwan Yin coins! They are truly timeless and priceless.
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Post by: exchange on September 13, 2011, 01:58:19 PM
Here's my Patek Philippe watch.....Enjoy !

SUBJECT : SEATED KUANYIN  1/10oz.  2003
(GRADED BY NGC PF70)
KM # 1512, 50 Yuan, 3.1104gm, 0.9990
Gold 0.0999oz. AGW, 18mm
Obv : Putuo Mountain Pilgrimage Gate
Rev : Seated Kuanyin with holographic background
Edge : Reeded
Date : 2003
Proof Mintage : 33,000


Just beautiful.
I'm not a fan of hologram coins but the hologram on this Kwan Yin coin really makes her come alive. 

exchange
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Post by: exchange on September 13, 2011, 02:02:39 PM
Here's my Patek Philippe watch.....Enjoy !

SUBJECT : SEATED KUANYIN  1/10oz.  2003
(GRADED BY NGC PF70)
KM # 1512, 50 Yuan, 3.1104gm, 0.9990
Gold 0.0999oz. AGW, 18mm
Obv : Putuo Mountain Pilgrimage Gate
Rev : Seated Kuanyin with holographic background
Edge : Reeded
Date : 2003
Proof Mintage : 33,000


I am surprised for the mintage to be higher than the regular version.

exchange
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Post by: exchange on September 13, 2011, 02:03:32 PM
Exchange and Straitssettlementshop, those are very beautiful Kwan Yin coins! They are truly timeless and priceless.

Thank you.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on September 13, 2011, 03:38:47 PM
wow exchange those kuan yin are gorgeous ... where do you find coins like these or is it secret? :001_smile:
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Post by: comeaux on September 13, 2011, 03:41:01 PM
Straitssettlementshop that Guanyin is gorgeous ! how much does a coin like this typically sell for ?
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Post by: exchange on September 13, 2011, 04:58:17 PM
wow exchange those kuan yin are gorgeous ... where do you find coins like these or is it secret? :001_smile:

I guess you mean coins in OMP?
Coins in OMP are mostly found outside the US, that is something I have noticed. Europe is a key area where you can find modern Chinese coins in OMP.
I have pretty much given up calling dealers in the US regarding my want list.

exchange
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Post by: exchange on September 13, 2011, 05:08:28 PM
Straitssettlementshop that Guanyin is gorgeous ! how much does a coin like this typically sell for ?

Xu had a (3) PF70's for sale at $670.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2003-1-10-oz-gold-coin-Kuan-yin-hologram-NGC-70-/250873594490?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a693b427a

He also has a 1994 OMP with COA for $800.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-1-10-oz-Kuan-yin-gold-coin-/270809000053?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f0d796875

exchange
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Post by: ghostrider80811 on September 13, 2011, 10:10:38 PM
Here's my Patek Philippe watch.....Enjoy !

SUBJECT : SEATED KUANYIN  1/10oz.  2003
(GRADED BY NGC PF70)
KM # 1512, 50 Yuan, 3.1104gm, 0.9990
Gold 0.0999oz. AGW, 18mm
Obv : Putuo Mountain Pilgrimage Gate
Rev : Seated Kuanyin with holographic background
Edge : Reeded
Date : 2003
Proof Mintage : 33,000



Beautiful coin.  I believe I will one day regret not purchasing one for my collection. 
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Post by: exchange on September 13, 2011, 10:41:09 PM

Beautiful coin.  I believe I will one day regret not purchasing one for my collection. 

Just do it!

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on September 14, 2011, 06:12:27 AM
It is still time to buy those great birth or wedding gifts before they are locked in a Chinese family for generations... Yes beautiful!

Beautiful coin.  I believe I will one day regret not purchasing one for my collection. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 14, 2011, 08:18:45 AM
It is still time to buy those great birth or wedding gifts before they are locked in a Chinese family for generations... Yes beautiful!

Dragonfan,

I am really surprised they haven't been locked up yet. I mean maybe I got lucky to have found all 1/10th Kuan Yin years, but with mintages this low,  I can't imagine them been available for much longer. Its not like we are talking about thousands of dollars per coin.

As you correctly stated, these will be locked up in Chinese families for Generations to come.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 14, 2011, 08:51:13 AM
I was able to locate a 1996 1/10th gold ounce Kwan Yin in OMP with COA. Paid $650, mintage of 10,000.
Will post picture when I get it. 

sincerely,
exchange
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Post by: exchange on September 16, 2011, 08:27:48 AM
1986 the 120th Anniversary of the Birth of Sun Yat Sen silver coin.
(box is not from the mint)
Mintage: 8,500.


exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 16, 2011, 08:43:51 AM
1997 Yellow River Culture silver coins. (in OMP with COAs)
Mintage: 10,000.

(waiting for the 1995 in the mail). 1995 and 1997 only years issued.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on September 16, 2011, 09:18:29 AM
Yellow River Culture is also a great series. Still an excellent opportunity. The 1995 silver set is very rare, only 5000 pieces. Congratulations exchange!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 16, 2011, 10:18:10 AM
Yellow River Culture is also a great series. Still an excellent opportunity. The 1995 silver set is very rare, only 5000 pieces. Congratulations exchange!

Thank you, looking foward in receiving the 1995. Will post pictures when I have it.

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 17, 2011, 02:52:52 PM
Just wanted to share some of the medals i have collected in my treasure chest. Enjoy !

1989 MUNICH INTERNATIONAL COIN FAIR   1/2oz.
(GRADED BY PCGS PR69)
Face Value : Medal
Weight   : 1/2oz.
Content   : .999gold
Diameter : 27mm
Quality   : Proof
Mintage   : 1500


1988 A.N.A CONVENTION CINCINNATI   1oz.
(GRADED BY NGC PF69)
Face Value : Medal
Weight   : 1oz.
Content   : .999gold
Diameter : 32mm
Quality   : Proof
Mintage   : 1000


1997 MUNICH INTERNATIONAL COIN SHOW  ½ oz.
(GRADED BY NGC PF69)
Face Value : Medal
Weight   : ½ oz.
Content   : .999gold
Diameter : 27mm
Quality   : Proof
Mintage   : 880


1987 SINO-JAPANESE FRIENDSHIP  1 oz.
(GRADED BY NGC PF69)
Face Value : Medal
Weight   : 1 oz.
Content   : .999gold
Diameter : 32mm
Quality   : Proof
Mintage   : 5000


PANDA  1996 15th Anniversary of the Issuance of Chinese Panda gold coin  1oz.
(GRADED BY NGC MS69)
Face Value : 100 Yuan
Weight   : 1oz.
Content   : .999gold
Diameter : 32mm
Quality   : B.U.
Mintage   : 3800


1988  SAN FRANCISCO EXPO   1oz.
(GRADED BY NGC PF69)
Face Value : Medal
Weight   : 1oz.
Content   : .999gold
Diameter : 32mm
Quality   : Proof
Mintage   : 1500


Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: adamc4 on September 17, 2011, 03:36:22 PM
I think I've seen you post that 1997 Munich and 1996 15th Anniversary before. Are they the same coins or did you pick up some more?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 17, 2011, 03:38:15 PM
I think I've seen you post that 1997 Munich and 1996 15th Anniversary before. Are they the same coins or did you pick up some more?

Some are new and some are the same ones.
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Post by: KonaJim on September 17, 2011, 06:07:26 PM
Andrew, where do you get such beautiful coins?  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 17, 2011, 07:01:33 PM
Just wanted to share some of the medals i have collected in my treasure chest. Enjoy !


Very nice indeed. Congratulations.

exchange
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Post by: dragonfan on September 17, 2011, 07:37:05 PM
Your medals have some stunning designs. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 17, 2011, 11:15:07 PM
Andrew, where do you get such beautiful coins?  :thumbup:

Jim,
Most of the medals I bought from a great dealer living in Hawaii.....Aloha.  ;)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 18, 2011, 08:28:01 PM
The 30th Anniversary of the Issuance of the Chinese Modern Precious Metal Commemorative gold and silver coins.
Mintage 10,000.
Pick it up for 15% above spot, not bad I thought considering the mintage.

exchange



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Post by: dragonfan on September 18, 2011, 08:37:11 PM
Congratulations!
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Post by: Obsidian on September 19, 2011, 12:54:07 AM
Here is a set I have always liked.  Pictures aren't great but I didn't want to photo all of them individually.  They appear to be in OMP or just sealed.  Xu Hong has similar packaging on his for sale.

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Obsidian on September 19, 2011, 12:57:31 AM
Here are the rest
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Post by: mazinger7000 on September 19, 2011, 01:26:36 PM
lovely lunar set!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 19, 2011, 01:35:30 PM
Here is a set I have always liked.  Pictures aren't great but I didn't want to photo all of them individually.  They appear to be in OMP or just sealed.  Xu Hong has similar packaging on his for sale.


Congratulations, beautiful set.

Would you know why some call it the Lunar Scallop series and others call it the Lunar Flower series?

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Obsidian on September 19, 2011, 02:48:33 PM
Thanks!  It is a nice set.  As for the scallop vs flower.  As you likely already know it is just based on the shape.  It looks like the shape of a flower.  The scallop is used to describe anything with this type of shape.  For example a scallop sea shell has the rounded curves similar to the coin.  As to why some call it scallop and other flower I have no idea.  Also, some refer to it as plum shape.  Not sure where that comes from.  Anyone know?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Halves on September 19, 2011, 03:00:28 PM
  Also, some refer to it as plum shape.  Not sure where that comes from.  Anyone know?

From the plum blossom flower.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 19, 2011, 03:38:55 PM
Thanks!  It is a nice set.  As for the scallop vs flower.  As you likely already know it is just based on the shape.  It looks like the shape of a flower.  The scallop is used to describe anything with this type of shape.  For example a scallop sea shell has the rounded curves similar to the coin.  As to why some call it scallop and other flower I have no idea.  Also, some refer to it as plum shape.  Not sure where that comes from.  Anyone know?

Interesting, thank you.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on September 19, 2011, 07:56:28 PM
I haven’t checked my favorite area of the forum lately but WOW straightsettleshop those are absolutely GORGEOUS gold coins man !!! I love them all but especially the 1987 SINO-JAPANESE FRIENDSHIP, I bid on that one recently on Ebay but missed it by a few hundred dollars.

Exchange nice 30th Anniversary set bro and I agree about the price/mintage ! Let me know if you have a spare for 15% above spot ! I have several of these silver coins NGC graded but would like to get the set as you have it for a good price.

Obsidian that is an extremely nice set of Lunars … I haven’t actually begin to collect these yet but I could see myself getting into them … phenomenal set !

Thanks for sharing the extraordinary pictures of your coins guys … I love coming to this part of the forum and build a checklist in my mind of items I may be interested in the future. It’s great to see that you guys have such nice coins. :001_smile:   
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 20, 2011, 11:27:57 AM
I haven’t checked my favorite area of the forum lately but WOW straightsettleshop those are absolutely GORGEOUS gold coins man !!! I love them all but especially the 1987 SINO-JAPANESE FRIENDSHIP, I bid on that one recently on Ebay but missed it by a few hundred dollars.

Exchange nice 30th Anniversary set bro and I agree about the price/mintage ! Let me know if you have a spare for 15% above spot ! I have several of these silver coins NGC graded but would like to get the set as you have it for a good price.

Thanks Comeaux.
I also find this section as one of my favorites. The 30th Anniversary set is nice, don't really care for the Panda much, but based on price to mintage ratio it was worth the risk.

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KonaJim on September 20, 2011, 05:26:30 PM
Here is a photo of the 1984 3.3 oz. Silver Great Wall form the Stack's Hong Kong Auction.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KonaJim on September 20, 2011, 05:27:32 PM
Photo 2
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Bearcat on September 20, 2011, 05:38:31 PM
Thanks KonaJim, For the pics of the "Great Wall" silver medal. Do you have the price realized? I remember these were considered very rare and expensive ($2000+) "back in the day" (early 90's).
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Bearcat on September 20, 2011, 05:40:46 PM
BTW, the "Great Wall" medal was also done in bronze, which was much more available
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 20, 2011, 05:41:29 PM
Here is a photo of the 1984 3.3 oz. Silver Great Wall form the Stack's Hong Kong Auction.

Very nice, with a mintage of 200, thats really something. Was it issued with a COA and if it was did it come with it?

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on September 20, 2011, 06:06:15 PM
Congratulations Obsidian, all original items; winners!
Photo 2
Here is a set I have always liked.  Pictures aren't great but I didn't want to photo all of them individually.  They appear to be in OMP or just sealed.  Xu Hong has similar packaging on his for sale.


Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KonaJim on September 20, 2011, 07:09:16 PM
The realized price for this Great Wall with Buyer's Premium and Shipping was $ 8,365.00.  This is some information sent to me by poconopenn.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KonaJim on September 20, 2011, 07:10:25 PM
Notice this author lists the mintage at 68. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on September 20, 2011, 07:37:36 PM
Stunning rarity, and a stunning image of The Great Wall. Great coin, and great price too!
(I like that it can be valued that much... a rising tide lifts all boats...)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on September 20, 2011, 07:46:11 PM
exchange, 15% above spot, mintage 10k, the risk is low!! good luck to you!
Hope to see your Yellow River silver soon... alot of histoty in this, the beginning of the Chinese nation..
The 30th Anniversary of the Issuance of the Chinese Modern Precious Metal Commemorative gold and silver coins.
Mintage 10,000.
Pick it up for 15% above spot, not bad I thought considering the mintage.

exchange




Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 20, 2011, 08:06:41 PM
exchange, 15% above spot, mintage 10k, the risk is low!! good luck to you!
Hope to see your Yellow River silver soon... alot of histoty in this, the beginning of the Chinese nation..

Thank you Dragonfan, I will post pictures of as soon as I get the 1995 Yellow River silver set.

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: poconopenn on September 20, 2011, 11:30:18 PM
  Also, some refer to it as plum shape.  Not sure where that comes from.  Anyone know?

This is from COA.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on September 21, 2011, 12:01:54 AM
WOW … This great wall coin is a tremendous Chinese numismatic acquisition ... I want one !!! :w00t:

very very cool indeed !!!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: ghostrider80811 on September 21, 2011, 12:02:39 AM
@KonaJim,


Awesome deal!  Happy/envious for you, lol.  
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on September 21, 2011, 12:08:25 AM
This is heresy to even post this meager coin after the Great Wall coin …

No doubt NGC has gotten stricter on grading as I have been getting pretty beat up the last few weeks but at last I get a little something to smile about !!!

It’s not actually very rare although I don’t know the actual mintage but on a “coolness scale” of 1-5 with 5 being the coolest I give it a 3. I think being gold automatically gives it a 1, being dragon another 1 and the fact it’s a PF70 well that’s another 1 … but oh wait … there’s the old hag on the back so I guess that makes it a 2 but oh yea wait … it’s the only PF70 graded so I’ll settle on a 3 rating of being cool  :001_smile:

Although this coin is not deserving of being in the company of the totally awesome coins in this section, it is a slow night on the CCF, very little posting or conversation and this is a 2000 dragon so yaaaayyyy !!!
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/2000Dragon.jpg)
I haven’t received it from NGC yet and the attached NGC photo is crappy so I also put a generic image of it as well for details …
(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/2000dragon1.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on September 21, 2011, 01:04:34 PM
Notice this author lists the mintage at 68. 

Congratulations Jim on the amazing new acquisition. I think you probably classify this as a "Monet!" Right :) This page is from Shen,Jiaju's book. I find his book overlooked and has the most accurate mintages. The book was distributed by the China Gold Coin Inc!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on September 21, 2011, 01:38:56 PM
This page is from Shen,Jiaju's book. I find his book overlooked and has the most accurate mintages. The book was distributed by the China Gold Coin Inc!
Where can this book be purchased?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KonaJim on September 21, 2011, 01:52:50 PM
Several people have asked me for the name and author of the book referenced in the pages I posted concerning the 1984 Silver Great Wall Coin.  The book belongs to poconopenn.  Maybe he can list the title and author here if he sees this post.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on September 21, 2011, 02:32:02 PM
Where can this book be purchased?

The English title of the book is "Modern Chinese Commemorative Gold and Silver Coins And Medals Pictorial" No. 1 1979-1988
Edited by: China Coins limited
Distributed by: The People's Bank of China, China Gold Coin Incorporation
Associate Publishers: China Coins Limited, Economic Information & agency

The author is : Shen, Jiaju

This book is out of print and hard to get. There is a copy on Amazon for $195 for the first part and $135 for the second part!! Maybe you can message the Amazon seller and make an offer (I have no connection to the seller).

I hope this helps!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on September 21, 2011, 10:27:45 PM
Kona Jim & r3globe … thanks for the reply and information  !

Wow I REALLY wanted that book but someone must have wanted it more because by the time I got around to ordering it just now (or attempting to), it is already gone … dang.

Well at least I know what to look for so the information is definitely appreciated. :001_smile:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaOrLunar on September 21, 2011, 10:46:48 PM
2007 CITIC Bank on its way back from NCS and NGC.

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaOrLunar on September 21, 2011, 10:58:30 PM
Also on its way back.  Is there any price difference between a Cameo and an Ultra Cameo?

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaOrLunar on September 21, 2011, 11:21:58 PM
What is the going market rate for the Peace (silver and gold)?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Obsidian on September 21, 2011, 11:30:17 PM
I personally think the price difference between Cameo and UC should be...oh 50 cents in my opinion.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on September 21, 2011, 11:33:02 PM
I personally think the price difference between Cameo and UC should be...oh 50 cents in my opinion.
that's hillarious !  :laugh:
totally agree !
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 22, 2011, 06:26:21 AM
Hello again,

Instead of posting the usual gold/silver coins, i'm now posting a highly sought after China Dragon 2000 polymer uncut banknotes. This note is expected to rise higher next year.

CHINA 2000 MILLENNIUM UNCUT POLYMER PAIR
Catalogue No: ND28.11.2000 P902 (UNCUT PAIR)
Printer: China Banknote Printing and Minting Corporation (CBPMC) on Guardian polymer substrate.
Signature: Seal (chop) of Head of the People's Bank of China.
Precise Date of Issue:   28 November 2000.
Colour:   Red and gold with green.
Languages: Chinese and Han Chinese. Also Mongolian, Tibetan and Uigur or Uighur (of Muslim origin) and Zhuang on back. Western numerals for denomination.
Sheet size: Uncut Pair – 100,000 pairs issued with folder

Current Price : USD3500.00 - USD4000.00

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 22, 2011, 08:12:33 AM
Hello again,

Instead of posting the usual gold/silver coins, i'm now posting a highly sought after China Dragon 2000 polymer uncut banknotes. This note is expected to rise higher next year.

CHINA 2000 MILLENNIUM UNCUT POLYMER PAIR
Catalogue No: ND28.11.2000 P902 (UNCUT PAIR)
Printer: China Banknote Printing and Minting Corporation (CBPMC) on Guardian polymer substrate.
Signature: Seal (chop) of Head of the People's Bank of China.
Precise Date of Issue:   28 November 2000.
Colour:   Red and gold with green.
Languages: Chinese and Han Chinese. Also Mongolian, Tibetan and Uigur or Uighur (of Muslim origin) and Zhuang on back. Western numerals for denomination.
Sheet size: Uncut Pair – 100,000 pairs issued with folder

Current Price : USD3500.00 - USD4000.00



Very nice design and colors look fresh. For something like this, is a mintage of 100,000 considered low?

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 22, 2011, 10:29:51 AM
Very nice design and colors look fresh. For something like this, is a mintage of 100,000 considered low?

exchange

The mintage of 100,000 can consider the lowest in the banknote series.
The year 2000 Dragon is one of the best and most sought collectibles for banknotes and same goes for China gold/silver coins.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on September 25, 2011, 11:03:00 PM
These are my newest Pandas


(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j330/Austinfarrell/2011-09-25_22-26-08_928.jpg)

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j330/Austinfarrell/2011-09-25_22-26-19_464.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on September 26, 2011, 04:06:15 PM
1987 China G1Oz  Panda New York Expo   

I found a NGC PF68 Ultra Cameo for less than $4,000.  The gold version of this medal sure seems tough to find (at least the places I've been looking!), and 80% are graded 68 or below.  I usually don't buy a second of a coin I already have in a higher grade...

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=2578.msg10225#msg10225

...but the design on this coin is so special (world trade centers, statue of liberty, great wall of china), so I couldn't resist picking it up.  I'll post a photo when it is delivered. 
 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 27, 2011, 05:43:09 PM
I never bought any of the silver medals that are talked about so often on this forum. I was already to late as their prices had gone just to high. I felt there were better bargains where no one one was looking. I decided to look into the Medals that were under the radar and came up with two at about three times over spot. It isn't much but its a start. Their beautiful design, low mintages, and most importantly cultural significance seemed to warrant their attention.

1994 Mei Lanfang silver Medal set in OMP with coa - Mintage: 2000.
1993 Genghis Khan silver medal in OMP with coa - Mintage: 5000.

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 27, 2011, 05:44:17 PM
Part II pictures.


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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 28, 2011, 11:53:00 PM
1996 Kuan Yin piedfort 5 Yuan one ounce silver set, mintage 5000.
The regular 1996 silver set are 1/2 ounce per coin, this piedfort set is one ounce per coin. Both sets have a face value of 5 Yuan.
I also took a picture from the side so you can see how thick it is as the circumference of the coin is identical to the regular 1996 issue, so the extra weight was done on its thickness.

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mrslick32 on September 29, 2011, 01:31:29 AM
Also on its way back.  Is there any price difference between a Cameo and an Ultra Cameo?


My quick answer to this question is yes, I expect a price difference between the two. However, prices are simply what other people are willing to pay for a certain item. I think that it makes sense that people will pay more for an Ultra Cameo because it's supposed to be of a better quality than a Cameo. The exception is if someone does not believe in the grading company's opinion and decides to determine the quality of the coin himself.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: lonemao on September 29, 2011, 04:28:29 AM
I have sent my first submission to NCS/NGC last month and on silver medals here are some of them.  All are on their way back.

1979 Volleyball, Figure Skating and Gymnastics. Mintage of 30,000 but I guess actual mintage should be less, as the NGC population is only 5 to 6.

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Obsidian on September 29, 2011, 04:34:53 AM
I like that Lanfang medal, Exchange.  Any coin with a Samarai on it is a great coin to me!  I have a set on the way.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 29, 2011, 08:22:51 AM
I like that Lanfang medal, Exchange.  Any coin with a Samarai on it is a great coin to me!  I have a set on the way.

Hi Obsidian, very good point about the Samurai as it is a good potential to attract the Japanese.

In fact straight form wikepedia:
"Méi was the first artist to spread Beijing Opera to foreign countries, participating in cultural exchanges with Japan, the United States and other regions. He toured the world, forming friendships with the western contemporaries of his day, including Charlie Chaplin".

"The Imperial Japanese Army soon occupied Beijing. The commander of the Japanese Army ordered Mei to perform for them and appointed Mei to a high rank official position. But Mei refused to sing throughout the duration of the war and endured an impoverished lifestyle until the war ended in 1945".

more at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mei_Lanfang

The best thing about collecting Chinese coins to me is learning the history of the people commemorated on their coins.
A history that goes way back, but just been discovered by the world.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: tamo42 on September 29, 2011, 12:28:52 PM
lonemao, those are fantastic. Olympics don't seem to be on the same level as pandas, but the rarity of the coins you have is amazing!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on October 02, 2011, 11:40:01 AM
1995 Yellow River Culture set in OMP.
Mintage: 5000


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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: fractalfate on October 02, 2011, 12:35:07 PM
Those 1979 olympic medals are gorgeous. The poses on the athletes are incredibly dynamic. Nice find!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on October 03, 2011, 06:29:52 PM
These came in today's mail.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: tamo42 on October 03, 2011, 06:40:00 PM
Very nice. I'm a huge fan of the gold expo series starting in 87
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Pandad on October 03, 2011, 11:28:44 PM
1999 1/2oz Serif 1 MS69
certification #3552934-001
I can't post a photo until tomorrow but you can check it out on NGC.
Joe
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on October 04, 2011, 03:39:53 AM
Congratulations exchange! Very rich in history, Chinese people are very close
to theirs roots.

The Yellow River is called "the cradle of Chinese civilization"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_River

Emperor Shun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Shun_of_Han
Emperor Yao
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Yao
Yellow Emperor or Huangdi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Emperor
Emperor Yan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yan_Emperor
1995 Yellow River Culture set in OMP.
Mintage: 5000


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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on October 04, 2011, 10:49:07 AM
Congratulations exchange! Very rich in history, Chinese people are very close
to theirs roots.

The Yellow River is called "the cradle of Chinese civilization"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_River

Emperor Shun
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Shun_of_Han
Emperor Yao
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Yao
Yellow Emperor or Huangdi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Emperor
Emperor Yan
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yan_Emperor

Thank you Dragonfan, I love wikepedia. History at your finger tips.

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on October 15, 2011, 09:12:33 AM
Just arrived, 1996 Kuan Yin 1/10th gold coin sealed with COA. I finally got the entire 1/10th ounce Kwan Yin gold coins, 1993,1994,1996 and 1997.

Finding these coins is a challenge on its own, finding them originally sealed is another matter, and add the original COAs.... good luck.

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on October 18, 2011, 04:51:28 AM
"Kuan Yin with gold lotus" :

 'In Buddhism the lotus flower symbolizes faithfulness. The golden lotus that is mentioned in Buddhist sutras has two meanings, one is the symbol for the achievement of enlightenment and the other points towards a real flower which is beyond our normal perception.'

It's a safe bet.. :)   Congratulations exchange, you have beautiful coins!
 

Just arrived, 1996 Kuan Yin 1/10th gold coin sealed with COA. I finally got the entire 1/10th ounce Kwan Yin gold coins, 1993,1994,1996 and 1997.

Finding these coins is a challenge on its own, finding them originally sealed is another matter, and add the original COAs.... good luck.

sincerely,
exchange
Just arrived, 1996 Kuan Yin 1/10th gold coin sealed with COA. I finally got the entire 1/10th ounce Kwan Yin gold coins, 1993,1994,1996 and 1997.

Finding these coins is a challenge on its own, finding them originally sealed is another matter, and add the original COAs.... good luck.

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: ghostrider80811 on October 18, 2011, 05:07:34 AM
@ exchange, Lonemao,Birdman


Very nice indeed and thanks for sharing.  
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on October 18, 2011, 08:26:42 AM
"Kuan Yin with gold lotus" :

 'In Buddhism the lotus flower symbolizes faithfulness. The golden lotus that is mentioned in Buddhist sutras has two meanings, one is the symbol for the achievement of enlightenment and the other points towards a real flower which is beyond our normal perception.'

It's a safe bet.. :)   Congratulations exchange, you have beautiful coins!
 


Thank you Dragonfan, I appreciate your insights.

I am waiting for a few more items, I think those may have been one of my best purchases of the year. I will post them as soon as I get them.

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on October 18, 2011, 08:37:51 AM
@ exchange, Lonemao,Birdman


Very nice indeed and thanks for sharing. 

Thanks ghostrider80811. In a few days or so I will be posting my latest purchases. As I mentioned above to Dragonfan, there may be my best buys for the year. Hint: they are gold with mintages of 5000. :)

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Gilmore on October 25, 2011, 07:11:42 AM
Just arrive minutes ago. I purchased it assuming that since it is double sealed its condition would be good and in did it is perfect, looks like it was minted an hour ago. Too bad the photos are not good enough to show it.
All of the 1986 Year of Peace coins that I have seen selling online are not mint wrapped. Do you think this mint wrap is original, was it wrapped later or maybe there were two issues by different mints like in this case?
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=1081.msg3082#msg3082

(http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z363/Shmanzila/Chinese%20Coins/YearofPeace1.jpg)

(http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z363/Shmanzila/Chinese%20Coins/YearofPeace2.jpg)

Gilmore
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on October 25, 2011, 08:15:24 AM
Just arrive minutes ago. I purchased it assuming that since it is double sealed its condition would be good and in did it is perfect, looks like it was minted an hour ago. Too bad the photos are not good enough to show it.
All of the 1986 Year of Peace coins that I have seen selling online are not mint wrapped. Do you think this mint wrap is original, was it wrapped later or maybe there were two issues by different mints like in this case?
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=1081.msg3082#msg3082

(http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z363/Shmanzila/Chinese%20Coins/YearofPeace1.jpg)

(http://i1186.photobucket.com/albums/z363/Shmanzila/Chinese%20Coins/YearofPeace2.jpg)

Gilmore

Gilmore, wow beautiful coin. Did you get the COA with it? The seal looks to be from the Shanghai mint.
I may have to look into this for my personal collection.

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on October 25, 2011, 08:18:18 AM
Is the mintage 1500?

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Gilmore on October 25, 2011, 08:27:12 AM
Gilmore, wow beautiful coin. Did you get the COA with it? The seal looks to be from the Shanghai mint.
I may have to look into this for my personal collection.

sincerely,
exchange

No COA or box, but I just could not skip it since I wanted it sealed and did not think there will be a second chance to find one anytime soon. Mintage is 1500 or 1200, can't remember which one.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Gilmore on October 25, 2011, 08:30:17 AM
Is the mintage 1500?

exchange

Just checked, mintage is 1500.

Have a beautiful day,
Gilmore
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on October 25, 2011, 08:39:04 AM
No COA or box, but I just could not skip it since I wanted it sealed and did not think there will be a second chance to find one anytime soon. Mintage is 1500 or 1200, can't remember which one.

Yes I agree, with such a small mintage at some point one has to come to the realization that not all is possible and to get it double sealed is a task by itself. Congratulations.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: ghostrider80811 on October 25, 2011, 10:44:04 AM
@ Gilmore,

Nice catch.  I love the Peace theme and the low mintage of that coin. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on October 31, 2011, 12:27:47 PM
I finally received my purchase. I believe one of my best buys of the year.
Paid not that much over spot.
All five with planned mintages of 5000 each. Who knows how many are left between actual mintages and melting pot, let alone in OMP.

I combined the pictures into 2 so the ratio of some coins and coa may seem larger but they are all the same size.

1987 The 1000th Anniversary of the Enlightenment of Goddess Mazu gold medal with original coa and original capsule.
1988 Kuan Yin gold medal mint sealed with original coa.
1988 Sakyamuni Buddha gold medal mint sealed with original coa.
1989 General Kuan Yu gold medal mint sealed with original coa.
1989 Maitreya Buddha gold medal mint sealed with original coa.

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: tamo42 on October 31, 2011, 01:12:09 PM
I think the Buddhist gods set is one that will sell much better in Asia than in the West. A few listings have been made (from pandaamerica IIRC) for this set, but there haven't been any takers.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on October 31, 2011, 02:16:52 PM
I think the Buddhist gods set is one that will sell much better in Asia than in the West. A few listings have been made (from pandaamerica IIRC) for this set, but there haven't been any takers.

I completely agree and thats why "if found" buy them from the West. Most of my Chinese modern coins are targeted for the Asian collector.  By understanding the Asian culture, speaking to them, I can select my coins.
With Western collectors, its a month to month case. One month is one thing and another month is something else. There is no consistency with most Western collectors who collect Chinese modern coins. I guess they have no reason to be.

I want my collection to be of cultural importance towards the Asian community through understanding and discipline and not what I may perceive it to be.

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on October 31, 2011, 09:24:45 PM
Yes I like them exchange! I don't know much about medals however, the themes are great!
Mazu is also a very well known figure, in and out China. In total, there are around 1,500 Mazu temples in 26 countries of the world, she is the indigenous goddess of the sea.
As you know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazu_(goddess)

You have some very beautiful pieces, congratulations! Sincerely.

A thriller to get our 
I finally received my purchase. I believe one of my best buys of the year.
Paid not that much over spot.
All five with planned mintages of 5000 each. Who knows how many are left between actual mintages and melting pot, let alone in OMP.

I combined the pictures into 2 so the ratio of some coins and coa may seem larger but they are all the same size.

1987 The 1000th Anniversary of the Enlightenment of Goddess Mazu gold medal with original coa and original capsule.
1988 Kuan Yin gold medal mint sealed with original coa.
1988 Sakyamuni Buddha gold medal mint sealed with original coa.
1989 General Kuan Yu gold medal mint sealed with original coa.
1989 Maitreya Buddha gold medal mint sealed with original coa.

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Post by: exchange on October 31, 2011, 09:34:17 PM
Yes I like them exchange! I don't know much about medals however, the themes are great!
Mazu is also a very well known figure, in and out China. In total, there are around 1,500 Mazu temples in 26 countries of the world, she is the indigenous goddess of the sea.
As you know: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazu_(goddess)

You have some very beautiful pieces, congratulations! Sincerely.

A thriller to get our 

Thank you Dragonfan, very much appreciated.

sincerely,
exchange
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Post by: dragonfan on October 31, 2011, 09:55:45 PM
Same "thinking" for me. Thank you exchange.
I completely agree and thats why "if found" buy them from the West. Most of my Chinese modern coins are targeted for the Asian collector.  By understanding the Asian culture, speaking to them, I can select my coins.
With Western collectors, its a month to month case. One month is one thing and another month is something else. There is no consistency with most Western collectors who collect Chinese modern coins. I guess they have no reason to be.

I want my collection to be of cultural importance towards the Asian community through understanding and discipline and not what I may perceive it to be.

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Post by: Gilmore on November 01, 2011, 12:37:11 AM
I finally received my purchase. I believe one of my best buys of the year.
Paid not that much over spot.
All five with planned mintages of 5000 each. Who knows how many are left between actual mintages and melting pot, let alone in OMP.

I combined the pictures into 2 so the ratio of some coins and coa may seem larger but they are all the same size.

1987 The 1000th Anniversary of the Enlightenment of Goddess Mazu gold medal with original coa and original capsule.
1988 Kuan Yin gold medal mint sealed with original coa.
1988 Sakyamuni Buddha gold medal mint sealed with original coa.
1989 General Kuan Yu gold medal mint sealed with original coa.
1989 Maitreya Buddha gold medal mint sealed with original coa.

exchange

Very beautiful set, Exchange. In fact, a lot more popular in Asia (China) than it is in America. I am very surprised that the 5 medal set graded 69 that was offered on ebay had no bids. In China the same set (different serial number) was sold at an auction not too long ago for $6800.

This is a great buy Exchange. 
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Post by: dragonfan on November 02, 2011, 03:37:24 AM
Very beautiful piece Gilmore and the Greatest theme.
It could be your WoW of the day:) http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-1222888-detail.shtml
Just checked, mintage is 1500.

Have a beautiful day,
Gilmore
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Post by: Gilmore on November 02, 2011, 04:52:20 AM
Very beautiful piece Gilmore and the Greatest theme.
It could be your WoW of the day:) http://english.zhaoonline.com/detail/auction-1222888-detail.shtml

Thank you dragonfan.
I followed that auction you pointed on Zhaoonline and just could not believe that this coin graded 68 would sell for $4100 while at the same day and the week before raw coins sold around $2300/2400, which is what I paid for mine by the way.
The coin I got will grade at least 68 for sure and although my original plan was to keep it sealed, I am starting to think whether I should send it for conservation and grading as it could bring such high premium. Don't know....
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Post by: exchange on November 02, 2011, 10:23:26 AM
1984 110th Anniversary of the Birth of Chen Jiageng silver coin. Mintage of 6000.
Finding the original COA for this coin was a monumental task. Word of mouth is most left the mint without its COA, not sure how true that is but it felt that way during the search.

I just realized I purchased this coin on October 21st, that is Mr. Chen's birthday. Sometimes you really have to wonder.

Interesting article on China Daily about Chen Jiageng.
http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=571977&page=2


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Post by: noomahn1 on November 02, 2011, 04:49:36 PM
So, here's a post from a newbie starting out the past 6 months. Pictures may not be that good (again a function of newbie). Yes, I drool over all the coins put up by the senior members (that gold Year of Peace and the Yellow River Culture coins are amazing), but I'm proud of the start.  My favorites are the set of four 1990 medals (happiness, luck, wealth and longevity), the 1989 NY Expo (I grew up in NY so it has meaning in that regard aside from the beauty), the 2000 Expo and the 1995 proof.

I have a 2g Dragon and Phoenix 69 and God Of War and Wealth 69 on the way. Some of you may recognize a few of these as I bought a few of them from members (a pitch from a newbie for keeping the buy/sell/trade very active- it's not just a selling tool but also educational for seeing and learning about new coins and what's changing hands for non-dealer types).

Thanks to all for the great reading and advice.  Crossing fingers the photos show up correctly.
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Post by: dragonfan on November 02, 2011, 06:13:32 PM
I didn't know Chen Jiageng, a Chinese businessman and a political figure with multi other interests, a model for many Chinese entrepreneurs :)
Very interesting find exchange, thank you for sharing it.
1984 110th Anniversary of the Birth of Chen Jiageng silver coin. Mintage of 6000.
Finding the original COA for this coin was a monumental task. Word of mouth is most left the mint without its COA, not sure how true that is but it felt that way during the search.

I just realized I purchased this coin on October 21st, that is Mr. Chen's birthday. Sometimes you really have to wonder.

Interesting article on China Daily about Chen Jiageng.
http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=571977&page=2


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Post by: buynicething on November 03, 2011, 05:21:28 PM
Excellent choices noomahn1!  Love the 2000 expo.  I wish I had one of these instead of some of the other coins I have.
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Post by: dragonfan on November 03, 2011, 09:05:12 PM
I agree, and don't neglect the very Chinese cultural significant coins!
Good start noomahn1 "Year of Peace and the Yellow River Culture coins are amazing" PRC modern coins offer a wide variety, a treasure of culture! Best wishes.
Excellent choices noomahn1!  Love the 2000 expo.  I wish I had one of these instead of some of the other coins I have.
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Post by: exchange on November 03, 2011, 09:38:37 PM
My favorites are the set of four 1990 medals (happiness, luck, wealth and longevity),

Congratulations Noomahn1, very nice coins indeed. I always liked the 1990 four blessing silver medals but I was never able to confirm their original coa and box so I never got them. Do you by chance have them?

sincerely,
exchange
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Post by: Gilmore on November 03, 2011, 09:53:41 PM
Interesting article on China Daily about Chen Jiageng.
http://bbs.chinadaily.com.cn/viewthread.php?tid=571977&page=2

exchange

Exchange, I really like the fact that you combine coin collecting with learning about Chinese culture. Thank you very much for sharing the above link and the others before.

So, here's a post from a newbie starting out the past 6 months.

noomahn1, oh man... this an awesome collection for a newbie.
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Post by: noomahn1 on November 03, 2011, 10:05:15 PM
Thanks Exchange.  No- I don't have them.  I wish I did.  Other than the one set on ebay, I could not find a set with COA or box anywhere (I've asked everyone I could find) but I liked the condition of these medals significantly more.  I confirmed with seller they are in the original mint double seal (not resealed).  Without COA and box I'm likely to eventually send in for conservation and grading but sleeping on it for awhile.  If I had the COA and box I'd for sure keep in OMP.  
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Post by: exchange on November 03, 2011, 10:06:05 PM
Exchange, I really like the fact that you combine coin collecting with learning about Chinese culture. Thank you very much for sharing the above link and the others before.

noomahn1, oh man... this an awesome collection for a newbie.

Thank you Gilmore.

I always believed when collecting things such as coins, books, stamps, etc... knowing a little history about the origins of the item is key in been successful at it. Behind every collectible is its history. Learning and understanding it makes collecting a lot more enjoyable. Sure its nice to see profits, but its even nicer learning something no school can teach you.

sincerely,
exchange

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Post by: exchange on November 03, 2011, 10:07:47 PM
Thanks Exchange.  No- I don't have them.  I wish I did.  Other than the one set on ebay, I could not find a set with COA or box anywhere (I've asked everyone I could find) but I liked the condition of these medals significantly more.  I confirmed with seller they are in the original mint double seal (not resealed).  Without COA and box I'm likely to eventually send in for conservation and grading but sleeping on it for awhile.  If I had the COA and box I'd for sure keep in OMP. 

I know what you mean, I guess with a mintage of 2000, one can't really be that picky.

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Post by: Gilmore on November 03, 2011, 10:16:39 PM
Without COA and box I'm likely to eventually send in for conservation and grading but sleeping on it for awhile.  If I had the COA and box I'd for sure keep in OMP.  

noomahn1, I would strongly suggest to keep them double-sealed. This is not something you see everyday. If they were not mint wrapped then conserving and grading would be worth considering.
I own a double-sealed set with box and COA that I purchased not to long ago. This set is one of favorites. Awesome details both on the reverse and obverse of each medal. A must have set in my opinion.
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Post by: noomahn1 on November 03, 2011, 10:32:07 PM
Thanks Gilmore.  Based on your advice I will now most likely keep in the double mint seal.   Thank you very much for the opinion.

And I also 100% agree your comment regarding learning Chinese culture.  I've learned more in 6 months looking and researching coins than in 30+ years. 
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Post by: exchange on November 04, 2011, 08:36:26 AM
noomahn1, I would strongly suggest to keep them double-sealed. This is not something you see everyday. If they were not mint wrapped then conserving and grading would be worth considering.
I own a double-sealed set with box and COA that I purchased not to long ago. This set is one of favorites. Awesome details both on the reverse and obverse of each medal. A must have set in my opinion.

I completely agree. Keep them the way they are.
By the way Gilmore, your set is spectacular and I'm still drooling over the paid price.

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on November 05, 2011, 12:37:38 PM
Nothing too special but the price.

Just bought two 2011 silver panda's in their capsules for $3.50 over spot. Ended up paying $37.58 for each.
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Post by: Devlin on November 05, 2011, 12:54:58 PM
Nothing too special but the price.

Just bought two 2010 silver panda's in their capsules for $3.50 over spot. Ended up paying $37.58 for each.

They are 2010's , me bad
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Post by: tamo42 on November 05, 2011, 01:59:17 PM
That's actually a great price.
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Post by: larrydreher on November 05, 2011, 08:27:35 PM
I just picked up this 1992 proof silver panda from an ebay auction.  There is really nothing unusual about the coin that made me bid.  I'm actually interested in the wooden box.  It is really rare to see the original box from the 1992 proof.  I've only found two before since I noticed several years ago that for whatever reason that box was much harder to find than any other proof panda box.

Anybody else ever notice (or even care)?
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Post by: comeaux on November 05, 2011, 09:11:37 PM
Anybody else ever notice (or even care)?
Very nice.

When Larry Dreher cares ... it's a good idea for me to take note and care
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Post by: exchange on November 05, 2011, 09:21:55 PM
I just picked up this 1992 proof silver panda from an ebay auction.  There is really nothing unusual about the coin that made me bid.  I'm actually interested in the wooden box.  It is really rare to see the original box from the 1992 proof.  I've only found two before since I noticed several years ago that for whatever reason that box was much harder to find than any other proof panda box.

Anybody else ever notice (or even care)?

Hi Larrydreher,

I do not collect silver Pandas aside from the 1/2 ouncers so my knowledge is somewhat limited but I have to say the box is very nice. What color is it inside?  Did it also come with the outer box which protects the wooden box?
I am more of a collector so when getting an OMP, it must have everything just the way the mint issued it. With a mintage of 20,000 it should not be difficult to find.

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: larrydreher on November 05, 2011, 09:58:00 PM
Yes, It does have an outer cardboard box too, typical of all the proof pandas from 1989 through 1993.

"With a mintage of 20,000 it should not be difficult to find."

You would certainly think so, however with most things in modern Chinese coins, nothing's ever that simple.  I have no idea why the 1992 box is so hard to find but since I noticed they were scarce, I've only been able to find three and I've looked fairly diligently.

"what color is it inside"

it's red.
  

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Post by: exchange on November 05, 2011, 10:07:09 PM
Yes, It does have an outer cardboard box too, typical of all the proof pandas from 1989 through 1993.

"With a mintage of 20,000 it should not be difficult to find."

You would certainly think so, however with most things in modern Chinese coins, nothing's ever that simple.  I have no idea why the 1992 box is so hard to find but since I noticed they were scarce, I've only been able to find three and I've looked fairly diligently.

"what color is it inside"

it's red.


Thanks for the info.

"with most things in modern Chinese coins, nothing's ever that simple"
Thats so true.

Not sure what their prices are but here's one on ebay with box and coa, not double sealed.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1992-China-10-Yuan-1-Oz-Silver-Panda-Proof-Coin-/140630316342?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20be385536#ht_500wt_1203

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on November 14, 2011, 08:49:32 PM
1993 Soong Ching Ling gold and silver set.
Mintage: 2000


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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Gilmore on November 14, 2011, 08:58:45 PM
1993 Soong Ching Ling gold and silver set.
Mintage: 2000


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Very nice set Exchange, and looks to be in very good condition too.
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Post by: dragonfan on November 15, 2011, 03:48:23 AM
WOW! A visionnaire pick, in all aspects, imho, could be a future museum exhibit.
Congratulations exchange! Sincerely.
1993 Soong Ching Ling gold and silver set.
Mintage: 2000


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Post by: ghostrider80811 on November 15, 2011, 05:29:32 AM
noomahn1,

Very nice silver pandas you got there.  I especially like the 00 Gold Gilded Expo Panda.  This is how the panda addiction starts.  
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Post by: dragonfan on November 15, 2011, 05:48:34 AM
I own the 00 Gold Gilded Expo Panda, the Beijing Expo is a great event, very few posts about it however.. the 00 Panda is a beautiful coin. An excellent pick.
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Post by: exchange on November 15, 2011, 06:34:18 AM
WOW! A visionnaire pick, in all aspects, imho, could be a future museum exhibit.
Congratulations exchange! Sincerely.

Thank you Gilmore and Dragonfan.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on November 23, 2011, 09:46:38 AM
Just scored a raw 1995 gold one ounce small date Panda for $1742.70   !!!!    :biggrin:

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j330/Austinfarrell/2011-11-23_09-35-14_167.jpg)

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j330/Austinfarrell/2011-11-23_09-35-25_19.jpg)
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Post by: exchange on November 24, 2011, 08:21:46 AM
1991 gold and silver set of the Hai Revolution.
Mintage for both coins: 2,500

The mintage from many sources originally indicated the mintage for the gold coin alone at 3,900 but that is incorrect. Based on the COA and Mr. Gee's book, the mintage is indeed 2,500. Ironically the Hong Kong auction also lists the mintage at 3,900, you would think they would know.


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Post by: ghostrider80811 on November 24, 2011, 09:07:19 AM
@exchange,

Awesome coins you got there.  You're turning into one of the most astute Chinese Collector on this forum with your Chinese insights and I believe we all need to re-evaluate our strategy's going forward with this slow down.
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Post by: exchange on November 27, 2011, 08:24:35 PM
1995 and 1996 "Chinese Silk Road silver coins" sets, OMP, COA, original box and outer box.
This is a series where the 1995 and 1996 are very inexpensive while the 1997 set is about 5x more, all have the same planned mintage.

One thing which puzzles me about this set is why are they so cheap. Both 1995 and 1996 sets are about $110 per coin or $450 per set. I understand their mintages is 15,000 per set but it is still relatively low. Does anyone have any insight on the Chinese Silk Road silver coins. At ~ $110 per coin, you can't even get most of the 1/2 ounce silver pandas which all have higher mintages.

sincerely,
exchange
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Post by: BChung on November 27, 2011, 08:28:09 PM
Nice......
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Post by: SANDAC on December 12, 2011, 05:02:31 PM
Well, lookie here!  Just got me coins from Clark Smith this afternoon.   :001_wub:

My first foray into Chinese Medals.

Didn't expect to receive the box, but apparently the coins were originally shipped in this box.
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Post by: tamo42 on December 12, 2011, 05:08:10 PM
Wow
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Post by: exchange on December 12, 2011, 05:48:30 PM
Well, lookie here!  Just got me coins from Clark Smith this afternoon.   :001_wub:

My first foray into Chinese Medals.

Didn't expect to receive the box, but apparently the coins were originally shipped in this box.


Congrats very nice set. I wonder if Clark Smith himself got them graded considering he still had the original box. Would be interesting to find out from a collector's point of view if the graded set originated from that box.

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Post by: SANDAC on December 12, 2011, 06:17:41 PM
You can tell by looking at the NGC number, 3554996 -001 to -004.  These four coins were all submitted at the same time and all graded PF69!  There are a total of 10 submission in the 3554996 lot, 9 of them are PF69, the remaining one is PF68.  Whoever submitted them has a good eye for quality.  Likely an experienced dealer like Clark Smith.

I look up Clark's inventory now, and it was the original box.  I pulled the trigger so quickly on this set when it was advertised at $4500, I didn't even both to find out what else come with them.   :blush:
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Post by: r3globe on December 12, 2011, 06:45:09 PM
COngrats SANDAC :) Beautiful, ultra rare medals at a GREAT price. You did well.
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Post by: SANDAC on December 12, 2011, 08:55:21 PM
Thanks guys!
All these accolades are making my head swell so, that you all are going to read about me in the national news soon:

Breaking news:
Firemen chopped down doorway to free a swell-headed man from his study....
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on December 14, 2011, 08:42:02 PM
1990, 1991, 1992 and 1994 World Famous Cultural Figures silver coins. No silver coins were issued in 1993.
1990, 1991 and 1992 mintages range from 6000 to 7000 per coin.
1994 mintages range from 3000 to 4000 per coin.
I wonder if the violin is gold plated! Just a happy thought.

Finding the original wooden boxes with the outer box was some challenge, especially for the 1994. This is my favorite set, China is also represented in this set. From what I was able to find out, 1994 was the only year the wooden box changed. 1990, 1991 and 1992 have the brown wooden box with the golden violin.

Some of the pictures have a straw on the side, thats to keep the box open. Nice little trick I discovered! Next time I'll tape the straw black for better looks.

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Post by: exchange on December 14, 2011, 08:50:35 PM
Part II - 1990
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Post by: exchange on December 14, 2011, 08:54:01 PM
Part III - 1991 and 1992
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on December 17, 2011, 08:48:58 PM
1997, China Minority Nationality Culture silver coins in OMP.
Mintage 28,000.

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on December 17, 2011, 09:01:50 PM
Exchange, you have built up a very fine collection. I always look forward to seeing your photos.
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Post by: exchange on December 17, 2011, 09:08:33 PM
Exchange, you have built up a very fine collection. I always look forward to seeing your photos.

Thank you.

exchange
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Post by: exchange on December 20, 2011, 09:51:10 PM
1994 Construction Achievement of China Special Economic Zone silver medals, Deng Xiao Ping. Mintage: 4,500 from the Shanghai mint.

This was an interesting set to locate. This is the first set of CMC I purchased that are not double sealed because they were issued as such. It took me a while to research this. Xu has this set of silver coins for sale double sealed with no box and no coa. I was perplexed. I asked him and he did confirm me his were resealed and changed the auction accordingly indicating it as such. Also locating an original set with its original box was also challenging. Notice the writings inside the box, that is in relation to the Construction Achievement of China Special Economic Zone. If this set comes with a red box without the writing, it is not the original box. (yes, i am sure they can counterfeit one, but prices are still low for this set so finding one today is more likely an original). Also an outer box was made for this set, I am 99.9% confident.

BTW, got them a lot cheaper than Xu.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deng_Xiaoping


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Post by: exchange on December 20, 2011, 10:41:52 PM
Also an outer box was made for this set, I am 99.9% confident.

exchange


Meant to say an outer box was not made for this set.

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: peng_you on December 20, 2011, 10:51:55 PM
Change title of thread to exchange's newest modern Chinese coins please....hehe


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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on December 20, 2011, 10:58:43 PM
Exchange....

All beautiful  pieces... Simply Gorgeous, and I love the OMP.

Question: Do you have any cautions about these silver pieces with regards to tarnish or developing haze or white spots?
Do you have any special storage protocals to keep them pristine and beautiful for years to come?
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Post by: exchange on December 21, 2011, 12:24:33 PM
Exchange....

All beautiful  pieces... Simply Gorgeous, and I love the OMP.

Question: Do you have any cautions about these silver pieces with regards to tarnish or developing haze or white spots?
Do you have any special storage protocals to keep them pristine and beautiful for years to come?


Thank you Underbidder,

99.9% of modern Chinese silver coins I own are double sealed. All of them look very nice, a few have some toning on the ring. Because they are double sealed, I leave them just as they are. In fact I don't mind a little tarnish on the edge of the coin, it gives it character and authenticity and compiments the OMP vey well. I may be lucky but I have yet to see a white spot or haze developing on any of my silver coins.
This 1994 medal set is the only silver coins I own that are not double sealed.

I beleive the original boxes of the coins are the best for storage. Maybe thats why I have yet to see a white spot? and from there into the bank vault.


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Post by: Underbidder on December 21, 2011, 12:39:01 PM
Thanks Exchange-

Most of the silver coins and medals I have are still in OMP too.  A few have tarnish around the rims, but I dont think that distracts from them.
I think I recall Badon and others using  desiccant packs in their sealed baggies.... I know this would be just a bit more difficult for OMP, but not too much.
I may do this, it cant hurt.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: tamo42 on December 21, 2011, 02:28:48 PM
Do not open your OMP to put dessicant in!

I'm not sure if that's what you meant, but if it is, you can put the OMP coins in an outer bag that has a dessicant packet.
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Post by: Underbidder on December 21, 2011, 02:32:29 PM
Yeah- was just going to put desiccants in plastic bags, around the already sealed OMP.  Wasn't even considering opening OMP-
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Post by: exchange on December 21, 2011, 09:31:27 PM
2005, The Centenary of the Birth of Chen Yun silver coins set, mintage 15,000.

"Deng Xiaoping, is credited as the "architect" of modern China's economic reforms, but Chen Yun contributed much to the strategy adopted by Deng, and Chen was more directly involved in the details of its planning and construction. A key feature of the reform was to use the market to allocate resources, within the scope of an overall plan. The reforms of the early 1980s were, in effect, the implementation, finally, of the program Chen had outlined in the mid-1950".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Yun


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Post by: exchange on December 21, 2011, 09:57:25 PM
2004, The Centenary of the Birth of Den Xiaoping silver coin, Mintage 80,000.
Compliments very well with the 1994 medals of Den Xiaoping.


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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Krypt1c on December 27, 2011, 06:36:04 PM
2012 China S10Y Year Of The Dragon Early Releases PF70(Round and Scallop)
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Post by: epop on December 29, 2011, 04:53:10 AM
(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9760/imgp1833v.jpg)
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5699/imgp1835q.jpg)
last addition to my collection
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Post by: exchange on December 29, 2011, 07:12:21 AM
Very nice coin Epop.
If you are from German descent, this is even more special. I like this series a lot. Still very much affordable including the 1994. Many don't realize how difficult it is to locate these sets in complete form, especially the 1994 set and if you happen to find one at a reasonable price, buy first and ask questions later.  :001_smile:

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Post by: dragonfan on December 29, 2011, 08:11:07 PM
Very nice coins, congratulations! great picture, did you take one before slabbed,
in its wood box with CoA?
(http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/9760/imgp1833v.jpg)
(http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/5699/imgp1835q.jpg)
last addition to my collection

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Post by: dragonfan on December 29, 2011, 08:16:56 PM
Exchange, you are my hero, many are looking forward to see you newest acquisitions, again, congratulations for all you do for the newbies and many others.
1997, China Minority Nationality Culture silver coins in OMP.
Mintage 28,000.

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: epop on December 30, 2011, 07:23:27 AM
Very nice coin Epop.
If you are from German descent, this is even more special. I like this series a lot. Still very much affordable including the 1994. Many don't realize how difficult it is to locate these sets in complete form, especially the 1994 set and if you happen to find one at a reasonable price, buy first and ask questions later.  :001_smile:exchange
As English is not my  mother language I didn't get that with  ''German descent''.I am from Greece and I am new in Chinese coinage. I agree that these historic figures are still  affordable.
Dragonfan I don't have  photo of the coin before slabbing.There was no reason to take.It's a proof cameo coin.I aquired it raw without any box or certificate.Having OBC you have no reason for slabbing.But double sealed package it's too risky for me.I have already find two fake pandas in double sealed plastic.My eyes is the best authensity test.
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Post by: exchange on December 30, 2011, 09:17:44 AM
As English is not my  mother language I didn't get that with  ''German descent''.I am from Greece and I am new in Chinese coinage. I agree that these historic figures are still  affordable.

Hi Epop,

Beethoven was born in Germany. If you were German, this coin may have been extra special to you.

Because you are from Greece and you like Chinese coinage, coins you may want to collect from the world famous historical figures are:
1990 Homer and 1994 Socrates.

exchange
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Post by: epop on December 30, 2011, 02:05:45 PM
Ok now I get it.
Yes I am Greek but I like the panda series most.This Bethoven 10 yuan coin was a part of a bunch of coins,mostly pandas i sent to PCGS Paris with a fellow dealer.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on January 01, 2012, 10:11:42 AM
The 70th Anniversary of Xin Hai Revolution (1911) silver coin in OMP including glassine paper.
Mintage: 2,047

Even with the current slowdown in CMC, I cannot buy the gold and silver 70th Ann. set Hai Revolution. Prices ranging from $10,000 to $18,000 depending on condition.  Reality is even if the slowdown continues, I could never afford this so I decided to find the silver coin issued by itself.

The mintage for the gold and silver set is 1338. Mr Gee indicates the mintage for the silver coin at 3,885. That mintage includes both the set and the silver coin issued by itself. Having the original box and all of its contents allows me to differentiate from the total mintage combined. Here ironically the box is worth the mintage difference between the gold and silver set and the silver coin alone. By having just the silver coin, I would not know which set the silver coin came from.

I used my trusted straw to keep the box open for the pictures. :)
The price paid for this coin was 35% cheaper than Xu's ebay store, and he does not have the outer box which is incredible difficult to find.

exchange
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Post by: exchange on January 01, 2012, 10:14:43 AM
Part II

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on January 05, 2012, 09:06:53 AM
Adding to my collection of Sun Yat-sen Chinese modern coins is the 1996 130th anniversary 1oz silver coin complete as issued.
Mintage 20,000. Price was under $200, very reasonable.

One of the many details I enjoy about collecting CMC is where the coin was minted. This coin for example was minted at the Shenzhen Guobao Mint. To me finding a coin that I like and discovering it was minted at the Guobao mint is a bonus. Going by what I have seen, a good chunk of CMC were minted at the Shanghai mint, the biggest out of the major mints in China.
When a reasonably low mintage coin comes out from a small mint as the Guobao mint, chances are the mintage is lower than planned. I don't have any facts on that, just an intuition from seen other coins with same mintages coming out of the Shanghai mint which are much more available.


exchange
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Post by: honestgold on January 05, 2012, 10:55:22 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/180781651164?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649

Anyone saw this set before? is it rare?
Is that a fair price for 1/2oz gold ?
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Post by: CoinWorld13 on January 05, 2012, 06:13:14 PM
Badon, I agree with your statement of the "new" coin market. I was in China in November for two weeks. I traveled a very large portion of the east coast of the great "Rooster" I visited countless coin shops and spoke with an interpreter helping me to many dealers and collectors. In truth, China is mostly concerned with the present and future. Even old buildings that we in America make us think China are out dated and not appreciated by the majority. Coins are also treated like this. There is an incredible appreciation for the modern coins and medals. you will see special new glass cases erected to show off the new bars, coins, medals, and even notes. There are big banks in Ningbo that are starting to mint their own bars this year. It is becoming increasingly popular. The most wonderful thing I seen was the new found appreciation for graded coins and medals. Some of the larger dealers whom don't yet trust eBay, are taking the time, and worry to send to NGC. I believe we will see some of these small banks and local mints purposely start to make low mintage bars, coins and medals. They fear that with the rest of the world getting involved that the mintages will become too high. I hope this was informative. I recently have began the process to acquire the 1988 1st Hong Kong Expo Medal in gold. PF69 grade. I will post this on this page when it arrives. I have been away for too long. LBC seemed a ghost town. It is so good to be back on the forums, and to see you all diligently posting! I am excited to have found this forum, and will actively become involved again. Badon, thank you so much for your advice to me and my partner regarding this purchase. You may use any information you would like publicly. We only pm you due to being in the negotiation stage. Now that we have found one of our prizes, please feel free to use anything you need to help your readers. It's good to be back and to have found where everyone has migrated!
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Post by: Batman on January 06, 2012, 04:53:52 PM
Here is my newest addition.  Took a long time to find this set in OMP. Enjoy:
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Post by: ghostrider80811 on January 06, 2012, 05:15:47 PM
@ Exchange and Batman,


Very nice coins you got there.  Also to Batman I believe those coins are not OMP but resealed.  If it doesnt bother you great, if it does then maybe you need to do something about it.
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Post by: exchange on January 06, 2012, 05:21:57 PM
Here is my newest addition.  Took a long time to find this set in OMP. Enjoy:

WOW. With a mintage of 2000, you would be lucky if more than 100 have survived in OMP.
Just beautiful, congratulations.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on January 06, 2012, 05:26:28 PM

Also to Batman I believe those coins are not OMP but resealed.  If it doesnt bother you great, if it does then maybe you need to do something about it.

I think you are right, the seals on all four sides of each coin do not look the same.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Batman on January 06, 2012, 05:28:24 PM
I think you are right, the seals on all four sides of each coin do not look the same.

exchange

Mr. Ge says the mintage is 1,000.  Also, based upon the origin of the purchase, I am guessing they are omp.  That being said, it does not bother me either way.
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Post by: exchange on January 06, 2012, 05:31:35 PM
Mr. Ge says the mintage is 1,000.  Also, based upon the origin of the purchase, I am guessing they are omp.  That being said, it does not bother me either way.

Off course, how can I forget about Mr. Ge's book. It is very unusual for the COA not to indicate where they were minted (unless I missed it) so it is very well possible here these are originally sealed.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Dragons_Are_Silly on January 06, 2012, 05:32:15 PM
Wouldnt bother me a bit either.  Gorgeous set, one on my list to try and find too. Gorgeous.  Congrats
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: CoinWorld13 on January 14, 2012, 11:41:49 PM
Here is my newest medal 1988 1st hong kong expo gold pf 69.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: CoinWorld13 on January 14, 2012, 11:44:24 PM
They look great together! Both medals with a total of 1500 mintage! 500 for the gold and 1000 for the 5 oz silver. I need to resubmit the gold to NGC and NCS to conserve. Also the holder is riddled with scratches. It is driving me crazy! Nick from Majestic Rarities Brokered this one for me. He was really a Rockstar with helping!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on January 15, 2012, 05:44:51 PM
Exchange, you are my hero, many are looking forward to see you newest acquisitions, again, congratulations for all you do for the newbies and many others.

I agree. Exchange, you're fast-becoming a notable niche numismatist for your area of specialty in the field of modern Chinese coins. Have you considered writing a book? I've been pestering PandaCollector (the Pricepedia author) to branch out into ebook publishing for other aspiring authors. Want to write a brief reference work about the often overlooked rarities you collect? I would buy it, especially if priced under $5. Update it a few times each year, and you'll eventually grow it into something everybody needs to have in a print edition.

Badon, I agree with your statement of the "new" coin market. I was in China in November for two weeks. I traveled a very large portion of the east coast of the great "Rooster" I visited countless coin shops and spoke with an interpreter helping me to many dealers and collectors. In truth, China is mostly concerned with the present and future. Even old buildings that we in America make us think China are out dated and not appreciated by the majority. Coins are also treated like this. There is an incredible appreciation for the modern coins and medals. you will see special new glass cases erected to show off the new bars, coins, medals, and even notes. There are big banks in Ningbo that are starting to mint their own bars this year. It is becoming increasingly popular. The most wonderful thing I seen was the new found appreciation for graded coins and medals. Some of the larger dealers whom don't yet trust eBay, are taking the time, and worry to send to NGC. I believe we will see some of these small banks and local mints purposely start to make low mintage bars, coins and medals. They fear that with the rest of the world getting involved that the mintages will become too high. I hope this was informative. I recently have began the process to acquire the 1988 1st Hong Kong Expo Medal in gold. PF69 grade. I will post this on this page when it arrives. I have been away for too long. LBC seemed a ghost town. It is so good to be back on the forums, and to see you all diligently posting! I am excited to have found this forum, and will actively become involved again. Badon, thank you so much for your advice to me and my partner regarding this purchase. You may use any information you would like publicly. We only pm you due to being in the negotiation stage. Now that we have found one of our prizes, please feel free to use anything you need to help your readers. It's good to be back and to have found where everyone has migrated!

I am humbled and grateful for your recognition of my contribution in guiding your success. It gives me great pride to know that you have been benefiting from the work myself and others have done to help you achieve your investing and collecting goals. Thank you so very much.

Here is my newest addition.  Took a long time to find this set in OMP. Enjoy:

The plastic on these look a little unusual, in my opinion also. What I'm noticing is that it is of different type than is normally used by the China mint. I hope the coins themselves are nice, though.
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Post by: exchange on January 15, 2012, 08:18:17 PM
I agree. Exchange, you're fast-becoming a notable niche numismatist for your area of specialty in the field of modern Chinese coins. Have you considered writing a book? I've been pestering PandaCollector (the Pricepedia author) to branch out into ebook publishing for other aspiring authors. Want to write a brief reference work about the often overlooked rarities you collect? I would buy it, especially if priced under $5. Update it a few times each year, and you'll eventually grow it into something everybody needs to have in a print edition.

Thank you Badon, but I do not deserve the attention. I collect because I enjoy it and I enjoy posting them. If I was smart enough to have bought these coins when I was buying the gold pandas, I would of had enough to maybe write a book but these coins are to expensive for me to have enough inventory to some what accurately write about them.

However I am in the process of writing my first Children's novel, just started it, we'll see what happens. Also starting next week I will be learning Mandarin with my oldest daughter (8 years old), seems like a good age to start learning Mandarin :) . My resolution for this year is to be as fluent as possible in Mandarin. I want to make sure my daughter has the tools to sell these coins one day in case I do not sell them.

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: CoinWorld13 on January 16, 2012, 07:02:07 PM
exchange, that is a fantastic way to give your daughter the tools to become successful in this ever evolving world. Please let me know when you finish your book, I would love to read it to my son! Good luck with that and your collecting endeavors. Have you ever read lost on planet china by j marteen troost? It talks in this book about the necessity of teaching our children chinese mandarin. Anyways, best of luck to you, and I of course would agree with Badon. After this book is complete, you should write a book on coins. You can co-author it even with someone else and it would give us collectors more tools for this wonderful addiction.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: CoinWorld13 on January 16, 2012, 07:04:05 PM
I do not mean to take up space on the forum for this, however, I would like to know. How do I put a quote into my reply. for instance, i would have loved to quote exchange above before writing my reply but do not know how this is done. Can anyone help? Sorry, I am not great on the forums yet. Thanks in advance, and again forgive me for taking up precious coin and medal space for this.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on January 16, 2012, 07:05:58 PM
Thank you Badon, but I do not deserve the attention. I collect because I enjoy it and I enjoy posting them. If I was smart enough to have bought these coins when I was buying the gold pandas, I would of had enough to maybe write a book but these coins are to expensive for me to have enough inventory to some what accurately write about them.

However I am in the process of writing my first Children's novel, just started it, we'll see what happens. Also starting next week I will be learning Mandarin with my oldest daughter (8 years old), seems like a good age to start learning Mandarin :) . My resolution for this year is to be as fluent as possible in Mandarin. I want to make sure my daughter has the tools to sell these coins one day in case I do not sell them.

sincerely,
exchange

That is inspiring. I wish you the best of luck with mandarin. Jim Rogers talks about teaching his girls mandarin.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: CoinWorld13 on January 16, 2012, 07:08:18 PM
I don't have a picture yet, but just won a 1989 OMP China platinum Panda! ebay item number 320826978944 I will get a pic on when it comes!

Can anyone also PM me or answer how to put a link in the reply are as well as my above question? it would be nicer to be able to just put the link so that it is easier for a viewer to look at an ebay page, or a video i find. Thanks again for helping this forum illiterate collector!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on January 16, 2012, 07:15:31 PM
I do not mean to take up space on the forum for this, however, I would like to know. How do I put a quote into my reply. for instance, i would have loved to quote exchange above before writing my reply but do not know how this is done. Can anyone help? Sorry, I am not great on the forums yet. Thanks in advance, and again forgive me for taking up precious coin and medal space for this.

Instead of clicking the "REPLY" button, or going straight to the "Quick Reply" at the bottom, just click on the "QUOTE" button next to the post you want to quote.

If you want to quote more than one, be sure to move the blinking text cursor to where you want the quote to appear. It is usually somewhere in the middle of the first post you want to quote, which makes a mess when you click another one if you don't move the blinking cursor to the top or bottom of the quotes as you add them.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: CoinWorld13 on January 16, 2012, 07:22:47 PM
Instead of clicking the "REPLY" button, or going straight to the "Quick Reply" at the bottom, just click on the "QUOTE" button next to the post you want to quote.

If you want to quote more than one, be sure to move the blinking text cursor to where you want the quote to appear. It is usually somewhere in the middle of the first post you want to quote, which makes a mess when you click another one if you don't move the blinking cursor to the top or bottom of the quotes as you add them.

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: CoinWorld13 on January 16, 2012, 07:24:43 PM
Thanks as usual Badon! not only are you helping me grow my collecton and money, you also help me become a better forum user. What's next? Just kidding. Thanks again! You are very much appreciated! I hope you know that.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on January 16, 2012, 08:16:25 PM
exchange, that is a fantastic way to give your daughter the tools to become successful in this ever evolving world. Please let me know when you finish your book, I would love to read it to my son! Good luck with that and your collecting endeavors. Have you ever read lost on planet china by j marteen troost? It talks in this book about the necessity of teaching our children chinese mandarin. Anyways, best of luck to you, and I of course would agree with Badon. After this book is complete, you should write a book on coins. You can co-author it even with someone else and it would give us collectors more tools for this wonderful addiction.

r3globe, That is inspiring. I wish you the best of luck with mandarin. Jim Rogers talks about teaching his girls mandarin.

Thank you.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on January 23, 2012, 08:05:08 PM
Following Badon's list 121, I figured this may be a good time to post my silver flower lunar set of 12 coins in OMP. I purchased them a year ago. As a collector I wanted the entire set. Anyway I'm just not smart enough to figure out which one is rarer and which one is more popular and which one has more potential. With a mintage of 6800 per coin and its significance, I did not have to think twice paying under $480 per coin.
 
2002 horse 2/3 oz silver flower been sold by Xu for $1300?


exchange
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Post by: Underbidder on January 23, 2012, 08:18:47 PM
I love those in OMP-  Gorgeous !
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Post by: tamo42 on January 23, 2012, 08:19:34 PM
Very nice!
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Post by: dobedo on January 23, 2012, 08:33:34 PM
Very nice indeed. Please try not to ruin them with slabs :)
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Post by: Obsidian on January 23, 2012, 09:33:14 PM
I have this same set in OMP also. However I really would rather have them in "slabs".  I much prefer to view them in a slab and handle them without worry that they will get rubbed inside the capsule.  And you have to view the coin through not only a plastic capsule but often times a dingy plastic pouch when they are in that type of packaging.

I don't care what anyone says about slabbing, it's a better way to hold / view and protect you coins.  I like to look at the coin not the box it comes in.

Whether the Chinese buy off entirely on grading in the future is the only thing that is uncertain and the only reason I haven't graded the coins.  No matter what the grade I much prefer the ease of viewing and storage that a slab offers.

Keeping the coin inside a plastic pouch in a loose capsule is not my idea of protection or aesthetic viewing of my coins.

I definately don't want this turned into an OMP VS GRADING topic.  Just seeing the coins in OMP and having the set in OMP gets me annoyed at my own predicament of whether to grade this set or keep in OMP.
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Post by: exchange on January 23, 2012, 09:47:32 PM
I like to look at the coin not the box it comes in.


I like to look at both, one compliments the other.
The boxes and presentation these coins come in make the coins look like a beautiful piece of jewelry to be windowed displayed on the most expensive avenues in the world.

exchange
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Post by: Obsidian on January 23, 2012, 09:52:43 PM
I like to look at both, one compliments the other.

exchange

Obviously the box isn't bad if the coin were stored in a way inside the box that made the coin easy to look at.  Unfortunately it isn't.  If you decide to take the coin out of the plastic pouch for better viewing then you now have a real problem.  People don't know if the coin has been tampered with and you don't have a grade telling you the overall condition of the coin.  When it comes time to sell you are in trouble.  This is a legitimate concern I have as a collector who likes the beauty of the coins but also is concerned about their investment potential.

Can anyone seriously argue that looking at the coin through the plastic pouch is better than looking at it in a slab? 

Exchange, I know you like your coins OMP and I think a big part of that is you think collectables in "original" condition hold their value better.  Does the crappy plastic pouch or the coins often being somewhat loose inside the plastic capsule not bother you from a collector standpoint?

Maybe I better start a new thread on this topic.  Not a OMP vs SLAB but more of a thread about how to reconcile the downsides of OMP.  Is there another alternative to slabbing if you were more concerned about preservation / display of the coins and not just the grade or value whether it be OMP or Graded.

Any suggestions on what to call the thread?
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Post by: exchange on January 23, 2012, 10:08:56 PM
Exchange, I know you like your coins OMP and I think a big part of that is you think collectables in "original" condition hold their value better.  Does the crappy plastic pouch or the coins often being somewhat loose inside the plastic capsule not bother you from a collector standpoint?



Not at all. Its not like i use my coins as a frisbee.
"crappy plastic pouch"? ouch! such harsh words. :)


exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on January 24, 2012, 08:54:42 PM
1997 Forbidden City 1/10th oz gold coin.
Mintage 10,558.
Mr Gee's book marks it with two stars.
Price paid double spot.

Very reasonable price considering its significance and to a certain degree its mintage. To bad its not double sealed as I assume it was, although I haven't seen one yet.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BobW on January 24, 2012, 11:05:51 PM
The flower coins would make a wonderful coffeee table item enclosed in a lucite cube.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Halves on January 28, 2012, 02:42:30 PM
YEAR: 1986
THEME: USA'S 1ST TRIP TO CHINA / EMPRESS OF CHINA
DENOMINATION: 5 YUAN
WEIGHT: 26.6 GRAMS
COMPOSITION: .900 (24 GRAMS)
DIAMETER: 36MM
MATERIAL: SILVER
VERSION: MATTE FINISH
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Post by: Year of the Dog on January 28, 2012, 02:48:02 PM
Exchange that is a beautiful set and one I hope to complete soon.   My incomplete set is in NGC slabs I'm missing some boxes and COAs but the coins themselves are my favorite.
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Post by: PandaOrLunar on January 28, 2012, 03:42:03 PM
YEAR: 1986
THEME: USA'S 1ST TRIP TO CHINA / EMPRESS OF CHINA
DENOMINATION: 5 YUAN
WEIGHT: 26.6 GRAMS
COMPOSITION: .900 (24 GRAMS)
DIAMETER: 36MM
MATERIAL: SILVER
VERSION: MATTE FINISH


Krause (at one point) and Ge books list two different versions.  Does anyone has pictures of the two versions?
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Post by: BoyBlueJay on January 31, 2012, 08:44:51 PM
Well, I was the lucky one.  Got the first NGC PF 70 goldfish.  A Red High Head.  She's a beauty. 
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Post by: r3globe on February 01, 2012, 11:17:28 AM
That is one PERFECT coin, boybluejay! Thank you for sharing this one of a kind coin.
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Post by: Panda Express on February 07, 2012, 05:54:48 AM
I just wanted to share some of my recent purchases on numismatic Chinese coins I collected over the past few months.  I follow regularly on the forum; however, I haven't had a chance to participate that often due to my hectic schedule.  But mind you, I certainly have a passion for modern Chinese coins.  The 1989 Hong Kong Expo Panda and the 1994 G100Y panda graded 69 on my recent submission to NCS/NGC.  The rest of my recent collection was purchased via on-line auctions on EBay. I only collected modern silver and gold panda coins when I first began to collect Chinese numismatics until recently I started to collect rare 1980's and 1990's Chinese coins as you can see with my recent purchase of the 1984 Ancient Pagoda Zhenjue Temple PF 69 and the 1987 God of Longevity S10Z PF 68 coins.  I just wanted to thank Badon and other senior members on the forum who give their expertise in inspiring new collectors to this wonderful hobby.
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Post by: Panda Express on February 07, 2012, 05:57:59 AM
Here are the rest of the photos.
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Post by: Pandagongzi on February 07, 2012, 10:48:42 AM
Very nice 89 hong kong metal graded 69.  How much did you pay for raw?
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Post by: mcc168 on February 07, 2012, 11:05:27 AM
The 1989 1 oz silver Hong Kong will be a 'Black Horse', with huge investment potential. Especially because this is one of the very hard to graded as PF69 medals. Low low mintage of 1500. Lower all panda medals except the 1984 HK show. Congrats!
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Post by: Panda Express on February 07, 2012, 06:01:31 PM
I buy most of my raw and ungraded coins from Xuhong.  In fact most of my best grades coming out from NGC came from my purchases from him.  Despite his coins being a little pricey, I still think his coins are of very good quality.  The 1989 Hong Kong Expo Panda is one my favorite coins, and I was ecstatic to receive such a high score from this coin. As of this time, NGC has only graded 58 coins.  33 have only received a grade of PF 69.  Although many of the medals have gone down in price during this soft market, I have been buying them up because many of them have some of the lowest mintages of all modern Chinese coins and many have been overlooked.  Soon the medals will have its day in  the limelight.  I be waiting patiently for that time to come.
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Post by: Pandagongzi on February 09, 2012, 07:35:38 PM
I found it in his eBay store.  $880 kind of pricey for 1oz raw coin. No PF70 from NGC, you are very lucky to get PF69 back.  Did you just send in one?
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Post by: Batman on February 09, 2012, 07:44:45 PM
I found it in his eBay store.  $880 kind of pricey for 1oz raw coin. No PF70 from NGC, you are very lucky to get PF69 back.  Did you just send in one?

This is actually a good price for this coin.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on February 09, 2012, 08:51:26 PM
I found it in his eBay store.  $880 kind of pricey for 1oz raw coin. No PF70 from NGC, you are very lucky to get PF69 back.  Did you just send in one?

I had the 1989 Hong Kong Expo 1 oz medal for the past 4 months.  I received the coin from Xuhong in a capsule with no plastic seal or COA.  I finally decided to send it to NCS for conservation and grading with NGC 6 weeks ago.  Please note NGC's Certification Services memo for Chinese Pandas and Medals dated January 5, 2012.  My coin was submitted prior to the new memo coming out from NGC. I am not sure if this silver medal requires a COA prior to submission to NGC.  You might want to check with NGC prior to purchase of this coin from Xuhong.  Incidentally, there is the exact same medal in a PF 67 on Ebay going for $1,199.00.  This a beautiful medal with the Bank of China Tower and the Great Wall on the obverse side of the coin. Total Mintage is 1500.  Hope this helps out.

http://www.ngccoin.com/news/ViewArticle.aspx?NewsletterNewsArticleID=1534&print=1 (http://www.ngccoin.com/news/ViewArticle.aspx?NewsletterNewsArticleID=1534&print=1)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/China-1989-Hong-Kong-International-Show-Coin-Silver-Panda-NGC-PF67UC-/350524751007?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519ce73c9f (http://www.ebay.com/itm/China-1989-Hong-Kong-International-Show-Coin-Silver-Panda-NGC-PF67UC-/350524751007?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item519ce73c9f)

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Post by: Gilmore on February 09, 2012, 09:00:41 PM
Please note NGC's Certification Services memo for Chinese Pandas and Medals dated January 5, 2012. 

Last month I shipped some medals  to NCS+NGC without any COA's and it was not a problem. I would guess that this new memo refers to "unknown" medals that were not graded before.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Pandagongzi on February 09, 2012, 09:45:23 PM
I have a PF66 one.  It looks terrible comparing to yours. :ohmy: Now I want PF69 one.  How can I dump it and get a PF69?  Apparently all 89 HK metals from Mr Xu had no COA and some of them was resealed.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on February 10, 2012, 02:00:51 AM
I have a PF66 one.  It looks terrible comparing to yours. :ohmy: Now I want PF69 one.  How can I dump it and get a PF69?  Apparently all 89 HK metals from Mr Xu had no COA and some of them was resealed.

Pandagongzi, that's a tough question to answer! I'm relatively new to the forum as well.  If you are willing to part with your 1989 HK expo medal PF66, you can always post the coin on Ebay or sell your HK medal on the CCF forum to other members.  In addition, many members on the forum are also numismatic dealers who maybe also interested in buying your coin. I took my chances with Xuhong because of his reliable reputation on the CCF forum by some members and my prior purchases from him. I was also gambling with the purchase of this medal especially when I only received the coin in a capsule. I had my doubts, but the quality of the coin look great.  And as you well know that buying a raw coin from dealers online does not always guarantee a high score during the submission process to NGC. I plan on holding on to my HK medal for a while since I'm really a collector, and maybe when market conditions improve I may auction my 1989 HK medal deemed as the "Dark Horse" as quoted by MCC168.   :001_smile:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on February 10, 2012, 02:10:38 AM
Last month I shipped some medals  to NCS+NGC without any COA's and it was not a problem. I would guess that this new memo refers to "unknown" medals that were not graded before.

Gilmore, thanks for the update regarding the submission of your medals when the NGC notice on medals came out. Glad to hear you had no problems. I was also worried that NGC would not grade my HK medal.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: arksight on February 16, 2012, 11:18:30 PM
Just received this coin tonight from an ebay seller. I am not sure if this is the coin as it is from the image of NGC. The circled areas are the difference I noticed when comparing the coin I got and the images from the NGC.
Can anyone help me out on this? Thank you in advance!

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Post by: arksight on February 16, 2012, 11:38:16 PM
few more pictures.
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Post by: arksight on February 16, 2012, 11:45:29 PM
By the way, this is a NCS conserved one.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BoyBlueJay on February 22, 2012, 12:36:49 PM
As a breath of fresh air for our hobby, I've been searching the world for the more obscure medals that have been made by the official Chinese mints.  Specifically, the scarce and low mintage issues that have never been officially recognized and certified.  While Cheng, Zukang, Krause and others have covered the larger mintage silver issues like the popular Goldfish, they have largely left out the bronze, copper and brass medals as well as the more obscure silver ones.  My hope is that this will open up a new area of collecting interest in a rather mature market.  Here is a beautiful, high quality, reeded edge brass proof set minted in 1980 featuring the Orchid, Plum, Bamboo and Crysanthemum.  I am placing it on the Ebay auction tonight to run for 10 days under seller BoyBlueJay. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Pandagongzi on February 22, 2012, 01:00:23 PM
So shiny! NCS?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BoyBlueJay on February 22, 2012, 01:30:24 PM
I hope the recent slabbing by NGC of more and more previously uncertified medals by the official Chinese mints will spark some new life into our wonderful hobby.  Here is a 60 mm brass medal issued in 1982 for the Year of the Dog.  While these medals are technically brass, they have such a high copper content that they have a beautiful reddish hue rather than the bright yellow look of the smaller brass medals and coins made by the Chinese mints.  Another thing to remember is that after striking, the mint buffs and tones these large medals to give them their beautiful antique finish.  That is why they will not grade 68 and 69 like the silver pieces.  Typical grade range is in the mid 60s even when they look absolutely gorgeous.  This medal will be placed on the Ebay auction under seller BoyBlueJay tonight for 10 days.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BoyBlueJay on February 22, 2012, 01:37:17 PM
I finally got approval for certification on the 1993 Genghis Khan silver 1 ounce medals.  Here is the first one slabbed by NGC.  They are absolutely stunning.  A very culturally significant medal with a planned mintage maximum of only 5,000 pieces.  I will be placing them in the Ebay auctions under seller BoyBlueJay but forum members are welcome to email me directly for them.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: tamo42 on February 22, 2012, 02:45:29 PM
Stunning
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Post by: fishball on February 22, 2012, 03:50:59 PM
Amazing... those brass pieces look awesome.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: marbury518 on February 26, 2012, 10:33:41 AM
A couple of tough ones: 1993P Silver 1oz Panda and the 1979 Proof 35 Yuan UN Year of the Child 1oz Silver........which also
affords me the opportunity to ask a question. When buying Chinese coins are certificates of authenticity even from large Companies
worth the paper they're written on. My 35 Yuan has one but as a PF68 may be worth many hundreds of dollars less than a PF69, surely
you have to slab, so isn't the cert irrelevant? Auction House photos as not arrived in hand yet.


Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on February 26, 2012, 11:05:07 AM
Oh oh, I can feel another war on OMP vs slab coming...

Based on my experience of last 6 months, I'll add two observation that I haven't read about in the previous discussion, but I'll do that on a different thread. 

Beautiful coins, by the way.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on February 26, 2012, 12:54:44 PM
Oh oh, I can feel another war on OMP vs slab coming...


LOL

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on February 28, 2012, 10:30:56 PM
1996
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on February 28, 2012, 10:32:13 PM
1996
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on February 28, 2012, 10:34:18 PM
1996
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on February 28, 2012, 10:35:53 PM
Will an administrator please move this thread to the Members New Coin thread. 

Sorry and Thanks
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on February 28, 2012, 10:38:26 PM
1982 1/2 Gold Panda

I got the 1/4 and 1/10 as well.  But the 1/2 is the only really neat coin.   Also I'm looking for a 1oz to complete this set if anybody has one they would sell.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BoyBlueJay on February 29, 2012, 01:23:25 PM
Here is my latest Chinese medal keeping with my theme of trying to find the more obscure issues not previously covered in the major publications and never before certified.  This beautiful brass medal was issued in 1985 to commemorate the 40th Anniversary of the Shenyang Mint.  A VERY limited edition.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BoyBlueJay on February 29, 2012, 01:52:17 PM
Another first time certified brass medal issued in 1984 to commemorate Cao Xue Qin, a famous 18th century Chinese author.  He wrote Dream of the Red Chamber, which is one of the Four Great Classic Novels of Chinese literature. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: tamo42 on February 29, 2012, 02:28:26 PM
Wow, extremely high grades for brass/copper.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mybluediamond on February 29, 2012, 02:51:53 PM
I have a 1995 Bi-Metallic 25 Yuan gold unicorn in its orginal seal...anyone interested please email me.(http://)..current sell price $3500. Let me know. Thanks  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BoyBlueJay on February 29, 2012, 03:50:43 PM
Last one for today is a 60 mm brass medal issued in 1985 to commemorate Karl Marx.  While these medals are technically brass, they have such a high copper content that they have a beautiful reddish hue rather than the bright yellow look of the smaller brass medals and coins made by the Chinese mints.  Another thing to remember is that after striking, the mint buffs and tones these large medals to give them their beautiful antique finish.  That is why they will not grade 68 and 69 like the silver pieces.  Typical grade range is in the mid 60s even when they are problem free.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on February 29, 2012, 05:46:24 PM
Thanks BoyBlueJay! You are a pioneer in grading those unknown Chinese Medals!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: low on March 04, 2012, 08:31:22 PM
Bought this morning.

http://search.ebay.com/140713084547
http://search.ebay.com/140713086866
http://search.ebay.com/140713087004
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Mirkkanen on March 04, 2012, 09:57:41 PM
Good sniping! I like those deals.
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Post by: Devlin on March 06, 2012, 02:12:14 PM
Just picked this up this morning for $1725.00  Grand Theft Panda !! It has been a few months since I scored on a great coin.


(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/2012-03-06_13-53-31_93.jpg)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/2012-03-06_13-53-16_591.jpg)
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Post by: Year of the Dog on March 06, 2012, 03:24:43 PM
That's AWESOME......Congrats
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Post by: tamo42 on March 06, 2012, 03:45:54 PM
Wow! What a deal
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Mirkkanen on March 06, 2012, 10:06:56 PM
Asshole! Uh, I mean, I'm supernenvious of your score  :blushing:

That's awesome.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on March 07, 2012, 10:45:09 PM
Asshole! Uh, I mean, I'm supernenvious of your score  :blushing:

That's awesome.

It went to NCS/NGC this afternoon.  
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BChung on March 07, 2012, 10:46:55 PM
Where did you get it?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on March 07, 2012, 10:57:42 PM
DON'T TELL...........If you tell people your honey holes they won't be your honey holes much longer.   

I pay spot for almost everything I own but you won't find me telling people where they come from.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Mirkkanen on March 07, 2012, 11:04:41 PM
No wonder you accept my lowball best offers  :biggrin:

I'll have to try going a bit lower  :001_rolleyes: You have some very nice coins for sale Year of the Dog!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on March 07, 2012, 11:35:27 PM
Where did you get it?

An antique shop that buys gold coins and scrap from walk in sellers and then calls me about all their Chinese coins. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on March 07, 2012, 11:49:23 PM
New Goodies
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Post by: Year of the Dog on March 07, 2012, 11:51:33 PM
Thanks Mirk I'll be sure to counter for now on.    I have a Large Hoard I'm working on right now.  I haven't even scratched the surface of yet.  But there are some amazing coins in it and rest assured they will be coming to market. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Pandagongzi on March 07, 2012, 11:53:30 PM
An antique shop that buys gold coins and scrap from walk in sellers and then calls me about all their Chinese coins.  

Is 98LD really scare?  Or hype?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on March 07, 2012, 11:55:35 PM
SCARCE in My opinion.

But I like the 2001D so what do I know.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Mirkkanen on March 08, 2012, 12:13:17 AM
That is a sick coin, a 98 panda in MS-70 condition?? :drool:

If you paid anywhere near spot for THAT coin, you've got to pass on the savings  :001_rolleyes:

One of these days I'm going to get that deal of my dreams . . . one of these days!
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Post by: Year of the Dog on March 08, 2012, 12:25:21 AM
I didn't pay anywhere near melt...... In fact I paid more for this coin over spot than any other coin I've ever purchased.  But I sold a bunch of coins that I did get at spot and rolled the profits into this coin.   so essentially it was FREE!!!!!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Mirkkanen on March 08, 2012, 01:26:35 AM
Since I'm somewhat new to the phenomenon of large date vs small date, I'd like some help confirming the date type of my 1999 1/10 oz gold panda. Here are a couple of pictures. Any input is appreciated!

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb447/Mirkkanen/PICT0011-1.jpg)

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb447/Mirkkanen/PICT0014-1.jpg)

Is this a large date no serif or a small date? The reason I ask is because the date on the 1999 is smaller than the 1997's date. More precisely, the 1997 date is a bit wider, and a fair amount taller. Educate me please? Thanks.

Mirkkanen
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on March 08, 2012, 02:30:57 AM
Buy the book.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: ghostrider80811 on March 08, 2012, 02:41:28 AM
SCARCE in My opinion.

But I like the 2001D so what do I know.

I believe the 01D's in high grade is rare but the 98 LD in China is hard to come by from my research and one of the fastest appreciating Gold Pandas.  Im sure everyone will have their own shared experience.  Mr Ge list the 98 LD as a 3 star coin but he also list the 95 Gold Panda as a 3 star too which isnt as rare as the 98 LD allegedly (I'd like to get both).  Peter Anthony's estimate of pandas true mintage is close to Mr Ge's.  One of the things I really like is the star rating of Mr Ge's coins/medals, however, as this has been discussed before, there are some suspect or misprint of info from him too.  Sorry to get too off topic =X
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: ghostrider80811 on March 08, 2012, 02:42:42 AM
Buy the book.

UB gave the short version, LOL. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on March 08, 2012, 02:54:30 AM
http://www.pandaamerica.com/panda_varieties.asp?sresult.asp?page=1&keyword=Panda%20Silver&sortby=


AND buy the book.

http://www.pandacollector.com/buyersguide3.html
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: fractalfate on March 08, 2012, 09:55:18 AM
It's a 1999 large date, no serif. The 'serif' refers to the extra short horizontal line that is sometimes found at the bottom of the vertical stroke of the character symbolizing the number one, and apparently other letter and numerals as well. See link for way too much information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serif (shout out to Badon).
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: wyldkatt on March 08, 2012, 12:49:18 PM
The grading companies label it as a "Large date, Plain 1"

Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: ghostrider80811 on March 08, 2012, 01:21:27 PM
I made a quick ghetto chart.
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Post by: wyldkatt on March 08, 2012, 02:27:23 PM
Excellent GR!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: RAB3Group on March 10, 2012, 12:49:41 AM
My first Chinese coin purchase!!
(http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m537/RAB3Group/2012dragon.jpg)
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Post by: badon on March 10, 2012, 01:09:17 AM
Hey, it's your first post too! Welcome to the forum! That's a nice looking coin. I was worried about the China Mint's sensibilities when they first started making them, but now they have gotten very good at making them with their enamel process. Seeing beauties like your 70 dragon makes me wonder if I've been missing out on some of the fun!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Dragons_Are_Silly on March 10, 2012, 02:09:42 AM
Its a Dragon in his jammies!   :biggrin:

I just love the dizzying hypnotic background:  "send all yours Chinese coins to me..."  :blink:


* 70 grades are terrific !
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on March 10, 2012, 03:02:25 AM
I made a quick ghetto chart.

I just found this on the CC. I had forgotten it was there. Hover your mouse over the image to see the yellow box annotations, and then hover your mouse over the boxes to read what's there. I haven't checked to see if there's a serif one annotated there somewhere.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on March 10, 2012, 09:53:28 AM
I don’t usually post my coins up here unless it’s a set that may have not been seen frequently.

This set of 1980 Flowers from The Shanghai Mint  is not very common so I figured I would I post it up.

Currently it is the only NGC graded set …

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/1980flowers1.jpg)  

Edit by badon: privacy
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Post by: comeaux on March 10, 2012, 09:55:36 AM
here is the box for the set ...

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh214/mooky714/box.jpg)
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Post by: badon on March 10, 2012, 01:55:24 PM
I have been looking for those for a long time. This is the first time I've seen them. Thanks for posting them comeaux.

Everyone, please a have look at this posting, especially if you have shared photos on this forum:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=5260.0
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on March 12, 2012, 08:43:09 AM
I posted some of the below text in another thread as the subject of medals came about. I am reposting some of that text below to compliment my latest medal purchase.

The are a lot of Chinese medals that were minted by one of the three major mints but it does not necessarily mean they were authorized by the People's Republic of China. Many people think because it was minted in one of the 3 mints, it must therefore have been authorized by the People's Republic of China, but that is not true. Be careful when sellers advertise where it was minted, it is irrelevant if you want to buy a medal that was officially authorized by the People's Republic of China.
 
Mr. Ge's book is extremely helpful in identifying the medals that were truly authorized, located in the back of his book, categorized by year. If you do not have his book, one way I guess to somehow identify if the medals are from the People's Republic of China is from their COAs. The COAs of authorized medals have a particular look to them, at least  back in the 1990's. You will notice that the list of medals in Mr. Ge's book is quite small compare to how many medals are out there for sale and that is because in his book he only lists medals officially authorized.

One such medal is my latest purchase at $100 in OMP with original box. The 1996 one ounce silver medal commemorating the 100th Anniversary of Mao Zemin minted by the Shenyang mint. He is the brother of Chairman Mao. Mintage is 10,000 but who really knows how many are left.
This one is very interesting because it is very unusual to see an "official" medal\coin from a family member of an important governmental figure.

A friend of mine was undecided between this 1996 medal or the 2012 Singapore International Coin Fair silver medal which also has a mintage of 10,000 and more expensive... (go figure). I think when it comes to value this medal has good potential and its collector's base may very well expand outside the numismatic world.
BTW, I have yet to receive a reply from the officials at the Singapore International Coin Fair in regards as to if the medals are privately minted or officially authorized by the PRC. Their silence to me would indicate the ladder.
 
additionally.....
 
My interest towards the medals are very specific.
 
a) They must be minted by one of the 3 major mints.
b) They must be medals authorizied by the Chinese Government.(My only exception is the 1993 Genghis Khan, purchased last year).
c) They must represent a Chinese figure (maybe thats why I don't like the Pagodas)
 
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandamonium on March 12, 2012, 09:44:13 AM
Thank you Exchange for another one of your unique Chinese coins.  My question is why are so many members against the 1984 pagoda coins?  With planned mintage of 260, isn't that low enough mintage?  Price of one set of four PF 69 Pagodas selling for $25,000, last year, must tell us they have some value.  This coin has a track record of price and has low mintage.  Is the design unfavorable?  As a new collector why is the pagoda considered lower in value than other less expensive Chinese coins?  Maybe it is all preference, could someone fill me in as I try to understand this market............
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on March 12, 2012, 02:41:31 PM
I'm guessing it's because there's around 30 or 40 pagoda sets that are known to be out there, but haven't hit the market yet. If they hit the market all at once, they could really push prices down again. If some information pops up that says they have already been quietly sold off to collectors, then that would make people much more comfortable with buying them.

The CC can track them when they show up, so we can get an idea of how many are still available out there, and how many are locked away indefinitely in someone's collection.

As time goes by, the distinction between official and unofficial coins will be blurred. For example, the American coin market would go crazy over anything that the mint made, even if it was made by just one rogue employee for his own entertainment. That's what happened with the 1913 liberty head nickels, which are worth huge sums of money (but there's only 5).
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on March 12, 2012, 03:46:47 PM
Mr. Ge’s book does not contain EVERY medal that was authorized by The People’s Republic of China  ;)

I would caution any new collectors to not rely on just one book for their entire collecting strategy or one member’s opinion for that matter, it's a good idea to utilize several resources including books, collectors, dealers along with the many knowledgeable members here on CCF to formulate a good strategy.

Also remember … in “collecting”, there is no right or wrong  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on March 12, 2012, 03:56:42 PM
Mr. Ge’s book does not contain EVERY medal that was authorized by The People’s Republic of China  ;)


Yes, that is correct. The book stops at year 1997. I always wondered why Mr. Ge did not include the following years.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: low on March 12, 2012, 03:59:40 PM
Thanks you Exchange. I only learn about Mao Ze Min today. Great man with great history.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on March 12, 2012, 04:02:29 PM
Yes, that is correct. The book stops at year 1997. I always wondered why Mr. Ge did not include the following years.

exchange

Ok maybe I should have been more specific …

Mr. Ge’s book does not include EVERY medal that was minted by one of the three major Chinese Mints between the years of 1979 and 1997. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on March 12, 2012, 04:04:12 PM
Thank you Exchange for another one of your unique Chinese coins.  My question is why are so many members against the 1984 pagoda coins?  With planned mintage of 260, isn't that low enough mintage?  Price of one set of four PF 69 Pagodas selling for $25,000, last year, must tell us they have some value.  This coin has a track record of price and has low mintage.  Is the design unfavorable?  As a new collector why is the pagoda considered lower in value than other less expensive Chinese coins?  Maybe it is all preference, could someone fill me in as I try to understand this market............

I am not really against the 1984 pagoda medals, especially when they are an official product of the PRC. Its just that I see to many of them around to justify the price. I am not even sure if the ones already graded are even authentic. Possibly some forgered medals may have found their way into the grading system. The track record to me is questionable. Every set I have seen sell so far was sold for a little more than a sales tax on $25,000.

Besides not having confidence in the authenticity of the graded medals, I also dont have confidence in their OMPs. The price/risk ratio is to high to take a chance on. If I would have purchased these medals back in the 1990's, then I would not had to worry about fakes, there would not have been a reason to forge them to begin with as no one wanted them.


exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on March 12, 2012, 04:06:20 PM
The 1990's is when the first high quality fakes of the pagodas first showed up. I've been meaning to publish all of my diagnostics for pagodas. I started doing it for the goldfish, but have been diverted to other tasks. Once that info is up, you'll be as good at identifying fakes as I am.
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Post by: exchange on March 12, 2012, 04:08:33 PM
Ok maybe I should have been more specific …

Mr. Ge’s book does not include EVERY medal that was minted by one of the three major Chinese Mints between the years of 1979 and 1997.  


LOL, yes I know he does not but thats because he only lists the medals that were officially authorized the the PRC. Could he have missed a few medals that were officially released by the PRC? sure, but I like using his book as a standard guide.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on March 12, 2012, 04:09:59 PM
The 1990's is when the first high quality fakes of the pagodas first showed up. I've been meaning to publish all of my diagnostics for pagodas. I started doing it for the goldfish, but have been diverted to other tasks. Once that info is up, you'll be as good at identifying fakes as I am.

Good to know, I did not know that. Then I guess one should have bought them in the 1980's to make sure of not getting fakes.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on March 12, 2012, 04:16:58 PM
Could he have missed a few medals that were officially released by the PRC? sure,
exchange
Yes ... several were missed, but I as well use this book for an excellent resource
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on March 21, 2012, 10:15:34 PM
got a couple of goodies I want to share.

1994 Dragon and Phoenix bimetal 1/10 gold and 1/28 silver.
2,500 minted and COA number is 000279

Peter has this coin priced all over the place does anybody have a good idea what this coin is selling for?  Priceapedia has i listed from $4000-$9000

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Post by: Year of the Dog on March 21, 2012, 10:19:44 PM
pic 2
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Post by: noomahn1 on March 21, 2012, 10:21:28 PM
Don't know value, but that's a beautiful coin.
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Post by: Year of the Dog on March 21, 2012, 10:27:05 PM
pic 3

Edit by badon: removed duplicate image (saves server space)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on March 21, 2012, 10:29:50 PM
I picked up this 1987 platinum panda also.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on March 21, 2012, 10:31:56 PM
pic 2
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on March 21, 2012, 10:34:15 PM
This has the original out box and wood display box.  The original COA and as you can see it is all OMP.  The COA number is 000562

I believe this coin is selling for around $4000
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on March 21, 2012, 10:47:04 PM
Last one and it's my favorite.

1991 10th anniversary set with the 2oz piedfort silver proof panda.  3.3 silver medal and 1oz piedfort gold panda

The 2oz silver has a mintage of 10,000 pieces, COA number 8338
The 3.3oz silver medal has a mintage of 2,000
The 1oz gold panda has a mintage of 2,500  COA number 1664

I have no idea how many sets were put out and the 3.3 medal is the only piece without a COA.

The set has a COA number 00531 and that COA includes both coins and the medal in its description. 

Does anybody know how many sets were minted?  I would also like to know if the 3.3oz silver medal only came in this set?  If not why would this set exclude the COA for the medal?
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Post by: Year of the Dog on March 21, 2012, 10:50:48 PM
pic 2
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on March 21, 2012, 10:55:06 PM
This is my first time to see a Dragon and Phoenix in a bi-metal coin. This is a MARVELOUS looking coin!  Congrats.  :drool:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Gilmore on March 21, 2012, 10:57:40 PM
I love the 1991 10th anniversary set. I have only seen the individual coins sell separately and never as a set. Beautiful wooden box too.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on March 21, 2012, 11:07:37 PM
Thank you for sharing these images! There's so much work to do, and you're making even more for me :) I have added these images to the Coin Compendium. You can see them from the main page, under newest images. These are the first images I have added, based on permissions given in this topic:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=5260.0

I came up with a little blurb of text for each image, that links to the image source on this forum, and also where permission is given to use the image. It looks like this:

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Image from CCF<ref>[http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=1115.msg31074#msg31074 Post your newest modern Chinese coin]</ref>, permission granted by Year of the Dog.<ref>[http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=5260.msg30497#msg30497 Have you ever posted your photos to this forum?]</ref>
As you can see at the CC, that makes some nice little footnote links so people can verify that permission was given, and it also looks nice for giving credit to the people who made the images.

Thank you!

...now there's only 9999 more images left to go...
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on March 21, 2012, 11:37:34 PM
Does anybody know how many sets were minted?
750
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Pandagongzi on March 21, 2012, 11:51:39 PM
750
COA says 1,000.

Another set(2oz+3.3oz silver+bronze+1g gold) was 750.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on March 21, 2012, 11:52:42 PM
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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on March 21, 2012, 11:57:30 PM

Does anybody know how many sets were minted?  

I think it's helpful to keep in mind that coins are minted, but sets are assembled or released or issued.  It sometimes confuses new collectors to see low number of sets, and come to realize later the coins are not as scarce than they think since they might also be released individually in much greater numbers, or even in other sets.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on March 21, 2012, 11:59:41 PM
I do see now where it says  "This is to certify that no more than 1,000 Tenth Anniversary of the Panda Gold Coin Issue Commemorative Sets will be issued by the Peoples Bank of China".  

However "no More Than 1,000" doesn't mean that 1,000 were minted.


Would sales of this set show that the planned release is accurate?  I have found several completed auctions of each individual coin but 0 of the set.  If this set represents half the 3.3oz silver medals minted and just under half of the 1oz piedfort gold coins minted wouldn't this set pop up more often?  
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on March 22, 2012, 12:01:55 AM
I have the minted numbers posted for each coin attached the the photos. 

This set represents a large majority of what the planned production run would have been.   Not according the the Sets COA but according to the individual COAs that accompany the set.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on March 22, 2012, 12:02:28 AM
Sets may have been disassembled and the coins sold separately.  This is likely part of the reason the sets don't show up in the numbers you might expect.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on March 22, 2012, 12:05:47 AM
That makes my stomach hurt.  I am a STRONG BELIEVER IN GRADED COINS..........NCS/NGC RULES......... But how can you break up or even grade a set like this.   The presentation is built right in.  Breaking up this set should be punishable by Corporal Punishment.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on March 22, 2012, 12:26:31 AM
Haha, it is a beautiful set, but I still buy these coins individually graded, in high grades. The box and other accessories are just accessories, even though they may end up being more valuable than the coins in some cases, if their "mintage" was lower than the coins that make up the set. So, the box sits somewhere safe, while I enjoy looking at my NCS/NGC high-quality coin specimens.

I have been known to sell a box and keep the coins, or vice versa. This could get interesting if the market decides a genuine box is more valuable than the coins...
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on March 22, 2012, 07:28:11 AM
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Congrats Year of the Dog, I LOVE that 1991 10th anniversary set. That box is truly a work of art.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on March 22, 2012, 07:56:24 AM

I have been known to sell a box and keep the coins, or vice versa. This could get interesting if the market decides a genuine box is more valuable than the coins...


When I first started with Chinese non panda coins, I used to buy only the box because I could not afford the coins. US dealers had no problem selling me the boxes for pratically nothing as their intent was grading.

I beleive the market will one day consider the boxes valuable as they will be seen as original works of art. The thing is to get them while eveyone thinks the boxes are worthless not because of possible higher prices but because of fakes. Chances of getting a fake box while no one wants them are slim.

Also one should know what an original box looks like prior to purchasing it, because the fakes I beleive will not be close to the quality and if you know what to look for you will be able to tell right away.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: low on March 22, 2012, 09:52:25 AM
Hi exchange,

I agree. I love to collect wooden boxes. If only there is a safe and economy way to bring those boxes to Malaysia.

The only part of OMP I don't like is the plastic itself.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Gilmore on March 22, 2012, 09:59:17 AM

I beleive the market will one day consider the boxes valuable as they will be seen as original works of art...

Also one should know what an original box looks like prior to purchasing it...

exchange


I am in full agreement  on both. I would love to see boxes and certicates on the CC as well.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on March 22, 2012, 10:21:19 AM
You can upload photo of box & certificate like the coin itself.  In the "Upload image" menu you can see check boxes for "set", "box", "certificate", and others.  You can see images of several boxes and certificates for the Pagoda set here:
http://www.CC/w/index.php/CCT640
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Gilmore on March 22, 2012, 10:45:25 AM
Nice. I will do so.
Hoping to see a growing number of boxes and cerrificates on CC over time so we could all remember how the original set looks like. Unfortunately many boxes are being trashed when coins are being graded. I do have some graded coins but do my best to locate their boxes and certificates. They should not be seperated in my opinion.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on March 22, 2012, 03:41:14 PM
You can upload photo of box & certificate like the coin itself.  In the "Upload image" menu you can see check boxes for "set", "box", "certificate", and others.  You can see images of several boxes and certificates for the Pagoda set here:
http://www.CC/w/index.php/CCT640

That reminds me, I forgot to upload my other photos of the variations of boxes and certificates. I designed the CC to be able to track boxes and certificates under their own CCT types, but I haven't tried it yet. I'm not sure it would be helpful or not. I think it would be helpful if someone decided they wanted to make sightings for just the boxes and/or COA's. Then, the sightings would need a type, and you can track the value of those accessories independently from the coins.

Hmm...pricing of boxes and COA's sounds like an interesting thing to research.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: adamc4 on March 22, 2012, 07:17:09 PM
Year of the Dog, here's what I think current fair market values are for your coins:

1994 1/10 Oz. Dragon & Phoenix Bimetal Raw - $2750 to $3500.
1987 1 Oz. Platinum Panda Raw - $3250 to $4000
1991 3-Piece Piedfort Anniversary Set Raw - $8000 to $9000

The bimetal has sold for between $3300 and $3800 in raw condition in China in the past six months. A raw coin in the capsule, not double sealed, just sold for $2400 on eBay. This coin will be harder to move in the states. I believe the existing population is much less than the planned mintage but the coin isn't that popular here.

Common 1987/1988 platinum Pandas have sold for between $3500 and $4000 in 68 condition. Some people don't like to take a risk on platinum/palladium coins in the OMP. There are two 1987 coins in 69 being auctioned off by Stacks in April so I would watch those to get a feel for current pricing.

There is actually one three piece set just like one you have coming up for auction at Stacks so I would watch that too. One was sold by Hosane in December for $9000. The gold piedfort seems to be plentiful in 68 and a number have been sold over the past six months. Prices have ranged from $5500 to $7000. A double sealed gold piedfort sold for $6500 on eBay recently. There are two gold piedfort coins with the box and CoA being auctioned off by Champion in April, and Stacks has one gold piedfort in 68 being auctioned off and the bid is already at $7500. There's been a number of them coming to the market recently. The silver piedfort is a roughly $750 coin in sealed condition. Prices have been all over the place for the 3.3 Oz. silver medal but I would say your coin in that condition is worth a solid $1250.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BobW on March 22, 2012, 10:44:41 PM
An NGC 69 one ounce 1987 platinum panda sold for $6,490 on eBay in September 2011.

 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: adamc4 on March 23, 2012, 12:23:52 PM
I sold a 1987 1 Oz. platinum proof Panda in NGC PF69 for $4800 in December 2011 and Stacks auctioned off a 1987 1 Oz. in PF69 for $3835 (that price includes the buyer's premium) in January 2012. The price of platinum and palladium pandas has come down.
Title: Shanghai Distributor 10th Anniversary 1995 in Gilted Brass
Post by: BoyBlueJay on March 23, 2012, 03:21:42 PM
The gilted brass edition of the Shanghai Distributor 10th Anniversary 1995 medal.  First time slabbed by NGC.
Title: ICBC Shanghai Branch 35th Anniversary 1996 Silver 1 Ounce Medal
Post by: BoyBlueJay on March 23, 2012, 03:32:26 PM
Another first time slabbed by NGC.  The 35th Anniversary of the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China in Shanghai 1996.  A neat thing about this medal is that there is a Jefferson Nickel in the pile of coins!
Title: Shanghai Mint 80th Anniversary 2000 Silver 1 Ounce Hologram Medal
Post by: BoyBlueJay on March 23, 2012, 03:57:11 PM
Another first timer for NGC.  The 80th Anniversary of the Shanghai Mint 2000 silver 1 ounce medal.  Actually has a hologram inscribed into the medal that changes from the mint symbol to an 80.
Title: 4th Flower & Plant Expo 1997 Silver 1/2 Ounce Medal Set
Post by: BoyBlueJay on March 23, 2012, 04:33:21 PM
Final one for today.  4th Flower & Plant Expo 1997 silver 1/2 ounce medal set.  Another NGC first timer.  Feel free to email me if you are interested in any of the modern Chinese medals I post on the forum.  I sell on Ebay under seller BoyBlueJay.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on March 23, 2012, 08:09:06 PM
I am a STRONG BELIEVER IN GRADED COINS..........NCS/NGC RULES.........
I don't believe you! I believe you understand what serious collectots/investors (from a Chinese standpoint) are looking for. Congratulations! Dragon and Phoenix has a special status in this forum.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandamonium on March 23, 2012, 09:28:10 PM
The silver flower coins are awesome!!...............
Title: 1997 Yangtse River Three Gorges Dam Silver 2 Ounce Medal
Post by: BoyBlueJay on April 01, 2012, 01:44:55 PM
1997 Yangtse River Three Gorges Dam Silver 2 Ounce medal.  Newcomer for NGC.
Title: ICBC Jiangsu Branch 10th Anniversary 1995 Silver 1 Ounce Medal
Post by: BoyBlueJay on April 01, 2012, 01:51:27 PM
Another newcomer for NGC.  The 10th anniversary of the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China in Jiangsu 1995.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaOrLunar on April 01, 2012, 02:39:17 PM
Look like NGC will grade anything these day for a buck.  Did you send in the original or copy of the CoA?  Did NGC returned your CoA?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BoyBlueJay on April 01, 2012, 02:46:15 PM
No, NGC will NOT grade anything for a buck.  They only certify coins and medals made by the official mints at Shanghai, Shenyang and Shenzen.  Period.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaOrLunar on April 01, 2012, 03:40:30 PM
It was a rhetorical and sarcastic statement.  It was not too long ago, NGC only graded coins.  I do received and read NGC updates regarding new services such as grading medal.  My main question was is it required to send in an original or will a copy of the CoA suffice?  Also, does NGC returned any documentation you mail in to prove the medal?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BoyBlueJay on April 01, 2012, 04:10:02 PM
Sorry, I am blonde and miss the joke sometimes!  Having the original COA helps, but does not guarantee certification.  If it is in Chinese, it has to be translated into English so they can correctly label and date the slab.  I usually have my original COAs translated into English and submit both versions of them electronically.  That way, NGC can see that the Chinese characters match the COA and then run it through their choice of translation program.  Also, if they are uncertain, they can contact the mint directly to get verification that it was an official issue of that mint.  Having the original COA speeds up the verification process as it lets them know which mint to contact and a date to narrow down the search.  A copy of the COA will suffice with the submission.  I think it is exciting to add some new and relatively rare pieces to our hobby.  Most of these medals had a far lower mintage than the coins.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on April 01, 2012, 06:40:32 PM
It was not too long ago, NGC only graded coins.

There is no definitive, generalizable distinction between "coins" and "medals". I tend to just call them all "coins".
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BoyBlueJay on April 01, 2012, 07:15:55 PM
I guess coins have a denomination and medals do not.  But none of the modern gold, silver or bronze Chinese commemoratives that we love to collect were intended for circulation anyway.  So I suppose they're all just basically medals in the end.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on April 01, 2012, 07:30:42 PM
Not even that is consistent. Most "denominations" are, or were originally, just standardized weights of precious metals. In the modern era, all "denominations" are fiat, which is essentially without meaning too.

The best I can come up with to distinguish coins from medals is whether someone will punish you for counterfeiting it, but even that doesn't apply in most cases. For example, most of the coin types on the planet were minted by issuers that no longer exist. On top of that, some of the most valuable numismatic "coins" were privately issued by mints that had no enforcement power beyond the verifiable weight of the coin. Then, what about the patterns, test strikes, proofs, dignitary gifts, etc? None of those were intended for circulation either.

In the end, I have no choice but to define a coin as a monetary object representative of wealth, that is usually metallic, but not necessarily intended to circulate. In fact, many of the most valuable and "medals" were minted privately by wealthy families by melting down their precious metals so they could cast it into a new form. It served no purpose other than family pride, and a convenient object to store their wealth.

So, we might be able to come up with a definition for "coins", but "medals" aren't really distinct from coins. If anything, they're just a peculiar type of coin. The "medals" of the China mints are much closer to definitions for "coins" than they are to definitions for "medals", so I just give up and call everything "coins" :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BoyBlueJay on April 01, 2012, 08:32:50 PM
Well put.  It is my sincere wish that the expansion by NGC into these will spark some new life into the hobby and invigorate the market a bit.  There are some really neat pieces out there that most collectors have never seen.  So I will continue to post them as I get them done.  Hopefully members enjoy them.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on April 07, 2012, 12:54:29 AM
I can't get better pictures until I get into some natural light but I wanted to get these 2 items up.

Both are for sale and I'll except offers for a while before I set any price.

Pictures 1 and 2 1990 Zurich 19th International Coin Expo.  1oz .999 Au
Mintage of only 550.  MONSTER MEDAL!!!!!!!!!


Picture 3 is of a 1991 Bimetal 2 coin set.  Both 1/4oz gold and 1/8oz silver.
Mintages  Medal only 2500 and the 25 yuan coin is 10,000.  COA 1812
Not much sales data on this set so an info would help.  The Medal is the One giving me trouble.

Any buddy have an GOOD idea what these are worth...... I can find the Zurich in the December Champions auction and rarecoincollector.com but there is almost a $6,000 spread between the 2 coins.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on April 07, 2012, 12:56:15 AM
1991 bimetal
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on April 07, 2012, 12:58:05 AM
Ignore the Any Buddy, it was a slip I have little kids..... My bad.....
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: ghostrider80811 on April 07, 2012, 07:07:11 AM
Dog,

Very nice/rare medals you've got there.  The spread is there due to the recent pullbacks on MCC that is way above their numismatic value much like the 93 1oz Gold Peacock and the 95 1oz Gold Unicorn in high grades.  I like coins with a yuan denominations more than medals but I have both. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: adamc4 on April 07, 2012, 02:33:03 PM
Here's how I'm pricing some gold medals:

1988 Basel
April 2012 - Pt Version PF66 - $3884
January 2012 - Pt Version Raw - $5155
December 2011 - Pt Version Raw - $5974
December 2011 - Au Version PF68 - $5500
December 2011 - Pt Version PF69 - $5700
November 2011 - Au Version Raw - $7080
August 2011 - Pt Version Raw - $7768

1988 New Orleans
April 2012 - PF68 - $2539
January 2012 - PF68 - $2284

1988 Hong Kong
November 2011 - Raw - $8260
November 2011 - PF69 - $10030

1990 Zurich
April 2012 - PF66 - $6274
December 2011 - Raw - $8401
November 2011 - Raw - $8850
August 2011 - Raw - $7768
August 2011 - Raw - $9560

Current Fair Market Values For...

1988 Basel Pt in 69: $4750-$5500
1988 Basel Pt Raw: $4000-$4750
1988 Basel Au in 69: $5500-$6500
1988 Basel Au Raw: $4500-$5250

1988 New Orleans in 69: $2500-$3000
1988 New Orleans Raw: $2000-$2500

1988 Hong Kong in 69: $8500-$10000
1988 Hong Kong Raw: $6250-$7000

1990 Zurich in 69: $8500-$10000
1990 Zurich Raw: $6250-$7000

This is assuming all raw coins are in great condition with no rub marks and such.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: yibo on April 16, 2012, 09:04:52 PM
1987 Panda 5th Anniversary Silver Coin Set
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: noomahn1 on April 22, 2012, 05:12:05 AM
Here are some of my latest purchases!!!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: noomahn1 on April 22, 2012, 05:14:03 AM
D&P Silver 2 Oz...
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: noomahn1 on April 22, 2012, 05:20:56 AM
Lunars for my wife, daughter and son...
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: noomahn1 on April 22, 2012, 05:37:24 AM
And finally, as a direct result of learning so much about culturally important coins from Gilmore and Exchange (amongst many others who post so often)- this is the one I'm going to lock up for a long, long time.  
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Lightsview on April 23, 2012, 04:06:57 AM
The 1993 Soong Ching Ling Set is a definite keeper! Congrats on your purchase.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Josip Broz Tito on May 01, 2012, 12:33:24 PM
Beijing Coin Exposition 1998 1oz Panda Gilded  :001_tt1:
Please feel free tu use my Photos for Coin Compendium.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Josip Broz Tito on May 01, 2012, 12:46:38 PM
Munich Panda 1990 1oz OMP
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Josip Broz Tito on May 01, 2012, 12:47:48 PM
Munich Panda 1994
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Josip Broz Tito on May 01, 2012, 12:54:32 PM
Munich Panda 1996 1oz
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on May 01, 2012, 12:55:20 PM
And finally, as a direct result of learning so much about culturally important coins from Gilmore and Exchange (amongst many others who post so often)- this is the one I'm going to lock up for a long, long time.  

Congratulations on the beautiful 1993 Soong Ching Ling Set. Those are the kinds of sets that are past from one generation to another.

sincerely,
exchange

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: noomahn1 on May 01, 2012, 02:02:29 PM
Thanks Lightsview and Exchange.  We feel very fortunate to have it locked up.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: noomahn1 on May 01, 2012, 02:05:06 PM
"locked up" in our safe deposit box...where it will remain.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KonaJim on May 01, 2012, 04:03:57 PM
Nice set.  I hope you enjoy it for many years to come.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: noomahn1 on May 01, 2012, 10:49:47 PM
Thanks KonaJim.  I acquired the set from someone on one of the Hawaiian Islands- they may be close to you if you want their contact info... :001_smile:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on May 01, 2012, 11:08:45 PM
Beijing Coin Exposition 1998 1oz Panda Gilded  :001_tt1:
Please feel free tu use my Photos for Coin Compendium.

Thank you very much for the nice photos! Could you please make a post here, so we can easily verify that you have given permission?:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=5260.0
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Josip Broz Tito on May 04, 2012, 03:32:12 PM
@badon

is done, thanks.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on May 05, 2012, 09:12:25 PM
And finally, as a direct result of learning so much about culturally important coins from Gilmore and Exchange (amongst many others who post so often)- this is the one I'm going to lock up for a long, long time. 
Congratulations!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on May 07, 2012, 04:47:29 PM
I rescued a Unicorn today that was living it's life in captivity at a pawn shop.  He has seen better days but he is still very rare. 


(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/unicorn022.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Mirkkanen on May 07, 2012, 09:57:15 PM
wow, great pawn shop score! That would make my month for sure, if purchased near spot of course.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on May 07, 2012, 10:11:23 PM
wow, great pawn shop score! That would make my month for sure, if purchased near spot of course.  :thumbup:

It was close enough to spot that I was not leaving it there. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on May 07, 2012, 10:12:23 PM
Devlin between that unicorn and the 1998 LD 1oz gold panda you've made some killer finds in that last few weeks.

Congrats
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: marbury518 on May 08, 2012, 03:54:00 PM
Just picked up a 2oz Silver 1991 Piedfort Proof Panda for a good price today.

These sell well but not as well as a year or two ago....
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on May 12, 2012, 02:06:25 PM
The Dragon Boat 2002 Festival silver coin.
Mintage: 40,000

Here's some info regarding the dragon boat festival.

"The Dragon Boat Festival (Duanwu Festival, Duānwǔ Jié, Double Fifth, Tuen Ng Jit) is a traditional holiday that commemorates the life and death of the famous Chinese scholar Qu Yuan (Chu Yuan). The festival occurs on the fifth day of the fifth month on the Chinese lunar calendar".....

http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/china/dragon-boat-festival


exchange


Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on May 12, 2012, 05:03:10 PM
Beautiful coin! These were among the first to be overlooked when the market was just getting started in 2004. For a few years, you could still buy them for peanuts. Now, they're very popular, for good reasons. They are gorgeous, culturally significant, have a dragon theme, and they are rare. Nice find, Exchange.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Lightsview on May 12, 2012, 07:27:38 PM
Well done Exchange! Another MCC which has its roots deep in Chinese culture.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on May 12, 2012, 07:53:18 PM
Thank you Badon and Lightsview.
For reference: Because of my source, I am almost certain this is the original green box issued by the mint, however I have never seen one with this coin.

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on May 13, 2012, 05:09:57 PM
The Dragon Boat 2002 Festival silver coin.
Mintage: 40,000

Here's some info regarding the dragon boat festival.

"The Dragon Boat Festival (Duanwu Festival, Duānwǔ Jié, Double Fifth, Tuen Ng Jit) is a traditional holiday that commemorates the life and death of the famous Chinese scholar Qu Yuan (Chu Yuan). The festival occurs on the fifth day of the fifth month on the Chinese lunar calendar".....

http://www.timeanddate.com/holidays/china/dragon-boat-festival


exchange



Very nice coin (legal tender)! the Dragon Boat Festival is one of the most known and celebrated over the world. The magic Chinese Culture at its best... Congratulations!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Lightsview on May 14, 2012, 02:46:07 AM
Bought this a while back. 1989 God of War and Wealth. Clouded Claw and Super Clouded Claw in OMP.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Lightsview on May 14, 2012, 02:47:59 AM
1999 1oz Gilded Silver Guan Yin in OMP.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Gilmore on May 14, 2012, 09:41:31 AM
Exchange, I like your dragon boat festival coin. Our friend is getting ready for the dragon boat race in the coming month. He and is team are practicing every day and I hope they'll win the race. In this festival the Taiwanese (and I think the Chinese too) eat rice dumplings... mmmmm... can't wait to eat them.

Lightsview, your gilded Guanyin is really beautiful. I have seen this coin before but your photo makes me want to buy one.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on May 14, 2012, 12:31:45 PM
Lightsview, your gilded Guanyin is really beautiful. I have seen this coin before but your photo makes me want to buy one.

I was just thinking the same thing. What a beautiful coin.

exchange
Title: NGC's Current Stance on Goldfish
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 16, 2012, 10:49:56 AM
NGC's current stance on Goldfish:


http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?IDArticle=2743&Chinese-Goldfish_Medal


I have gold gilt and solid silver sets in stock.  Email me for details.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on May 16, 2012, 11:31:51 AM
NGC's current stance on Goldfish:


http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?IDArticle=2743&Chinese-Goldfish_Medal


I have gold gilt and solid silver sets in stock.  Email me for details.

Thanks for the information regarding the newly published varieties of Goldfish medals recognized by NGC. This is very exciting news.  I also received an email from NGC that they also believe there are 3 varieties of Pagoda Medals which are currently under investigation by there company at this time.  Once confirmed by NGC they will follow suit by publishing the 3 different varieties of Pagoda medals in the coming weeks on their website namely the solid silver variety, gold gilt variety, and silver plated variety pagoda medals.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on May 16, 2012, 12:15:27 PM
Finally.

Official recognition of what some have been saying for a long time.

Thanks especially to Poconopenn and now Panda Express and BoyBlueJay, who've been dogged in pursuit of the the answers to these mysteries.

Next: what will NGC do with any Previously mislabelled sets?

And exactly WHAT did the buyer of the rumored $25,000 Pagoda set actually end up with?
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Post by: PandaOrLunar on May 16, 2012, 02:23:03 PM
Finally.

Official recognition of what some have been saying for a long time.

Thanks especially to Poconopenn and now Panda Express and BoyBlueJay, who've been dogged in pursuit of the the answers to these mysteries.

Next: what will NGC do with any Previously mislabelled sets?

And exactly WHAT did the buyer of the rumored $25,000 Pagoda set actually end up with?

What will NGC do with any Previously returned "Not Genuine"?
Title: Guilin Scenery 1981 Brass Medal Set
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 16, 2012, 05:01:56 PM
Guilin Scenery 1981 Brass Medal Set.  Very tough for these early brass medals to grade 69.  But since they do not have the deep mirrors of silver proofs, the difference between grades is much more slight.  I have these available now in all 68s or mixed 68/69 sets.
Title: Goldfish 1984 Gold Gilted Brass Medals
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 16, 2012, 05:43:49 PM
Goldfish 1984 Gold Gilted Brass Medal Set.  Very tough for these early gilt brass medals to grade 69.  But since they do not have the deep mirrors of silver proofs, the difference between grades is much more slight.  I will have more of these available soon.
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Post by: Underbidder on May 16, 2012, 06:01:36 PM
The gold Goldfish are beautiful, even if plated.
It woukd have been great if they made these either solid gold, or silver with gilded fish.
That would have been cool.
Title: Nanchang Uprising 70th Anniversary 1995
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 16, 2012, 06:28:51 PM
Silver one ounce medal issued in 1995 to commemorate the 70th Anniversary of the Nanchang Uprising.  Available now.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on May 16, 2012, 07:54:41 PM
What will NGC do with any Previously returned "Not Genuine"?

At the time NGC did not have any updated information from the China Mint regarding the other varieties of Goldfish and Pagoda Medals hence they had to label the other varieties submitted to NGC as "questionable authenticity" or "authenticity unverifiable".  I am not sure about the "Not Genuine" Pagoda submissions.  There maybe fakes still out there. I would wait for the official stance for submission of the other varieties of the Pagoda Medals once NGC has thoroughly research this matter.  Hopefully in the next few weeks NGC will publish their findings and follow suit in line with the Goldfish Medal varieties. Hopefully in the future we can know their true variety population counts if indeed they are very rare.  By the way the 1984 Gold Gilt Brass Medal Set is stunning.
Title: Sacred Mountain Buddhas Gold Gilted Brass 1994
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 16, 2012, 08:56:53 PM
1994 Sacred Mountain Buddhas in Gold Gilted Brass.  Also made in 1 ounce silver and 1/10 ounce gold but both are rare.
Title: Shanghai - Hong Kong Train Silver Medals 1997
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 16, 2012, 09:03:15 PM
Half ounce silver medal pair for the Shanghai - Hong Kong Train 1997.  Mintage only 3,000 pieces.  
Title: China 1997 Suqian City Prefecture 1st Anniversary Silver Medal
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 17, 2012, 02:58:12 PM
Issued to commemorate the 1st Anniversary of Suqian as a Prefecture Level City.
Title: Year Of The Ox Spring Festival 1997
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 17, 2012, 03:32:36 PM
Silver one ounce medal 1997 with inlaid goldflake badge.  Featuring Children Playing With Firecrackers in the Spring Festival during the Year of the Ox.
Title: Does Taiwan Count?
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 17, 2012, 03:42:56 PM
I wondered if I could share a Taiwan medal but when I saw the rice dumpling photo I figured this wasn't too much of a stretch.  These are so stunning I wanted to share.
Title: Celebration Of Spring 1999
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 17, 2012, 04:55:12 PM
Children playing with firecrackers during the Celebration of Spring 1999.  Mintage only 3,000 pieces.  One of my personal favorites.
Title: Yuyuan Gardens 2010
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 17, 2012, 05:24:54 PM
Yuyuan Gardens 2010 double thick 2 ounce silver medal.  Mintage only 2,010 pieces. 
Title: Tax Agents Association 2002
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 17, 2012, 06:06:39 PM
Wonderful design of the Shanghai Skyline and Dragon on this 2002 silver medal for the Tax Agent Association.  Mintage only 3,000 pieces.
Title: Grand Canal 100 mm Bronze 2009
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 18, 2012, 01:06:21 PM
An impressive example of the Shanghai Mint's capabilities.  Mintage only 1,000 pieces.  67 is as good as it gets for the big bronze medals because they are buffed and toned by the mint after striking to give them their beautiful antique finish.  There are no 68s & 69s like with silver proofs.
Title: 50th Anniversary Of The People's Republic Of China 1999
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 18, 2012, 05:00:05 PM
Issued in 1999 to commemorate the 50th Anniversary of the People's Republic of China.  Featuring a fierce Dragon superimposed over a map of the world.  Mintage only 5,000 pieces.  Because theses medals have such a high copper content, they have a beautiful reddish hue rather than the bright yellow color of the smaller brass medals and coins from the Chinese mints. 
Title: Genghis Khan 60 mm 1993
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 18, 2012, 05:52:30 PM
Genghis Khan 60 mm 1993.  Same design and 5,000 mintage as the popular 1 ounce silver piece.
Title: Culture Of Chinese Coinage 1997
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 18, 2012, 05:55:23 PM
In interesting look back at the Culture of Chinese Coinage.  60 mm  bronze 1997.  Mintage only 2,000 pieces.  Contact me if any are of interest.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on May 18, 2012, 08:35:17 PM
Beautiful coins Jay … thanks for sharing.

It’s refreshing to see coins that have rarely been seen or never seen before.

Nice break from the same old stuff !!!

Congrats on the fine art ... AWESOME !!!  :w00t:

I told you that I had taken a short reprieve from MCC to re-focus on my CGC comic book collection but these gorgeous medals are pulling me right back in  :001_smile:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 18, 2012, 09:38:56 PM
Then I would have to say, "Mission Accomplished!"

 :001_rolleyes:

And many thanks for the compliments!
Title: Beijing Coin Expo 1996
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 19, 2012, 08:11:35 PM
Beijing Coin Expo 1996 with inlaid gold badge.  You may recognize the other side as the same design as the 1995 Shanghai Distributor 10th Anniversary medal.
Title: ICBC Nanjing 10th Anniversary 1994
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 19, 2012, 08:17:07 PM
10th Anniversary of the Nanjing Branch of the Industrial and Commercial Bank of China 1994.  Another medal with the other side the same as the Shanghai Distributor 10th Anniversary 1995 medal but in a full ounce rather than half.
Title: People's Bank Of China 40th Anniversary 1988
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 20, 2012, 02:02:50 PM
People's Bank of China 40th Anniversary 1988.
Title: The silence is deafening
Post by: BoyBlueJay on May 23, 2012, 02:19:49 PM
 :001_unsure:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandamonium on May 23, 2012, 03:10:18 PM
They are all awesome.  The Grand Canal really stands out too, its huge.  Your flower coins, the gilt bronze and silver have alot of interest now.  So will the rest of your medals.......
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Post by: aragog on May 23, 2012, 04:05:47 PM
:001_unsure:
just silent envy, I wish i had at least one of those...
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Post by: sasushi on May 24, 2012, 01:26:40 AM
I m glad it got a 69.......
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mcc168 on May 24, 2012, 02:06:17 AM
I m glad it got a 69.......
Nice coin. My favorite.
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Post by: Lightsview on May 24, 2012, 03:05:48 AM
I m glad it got a 69.......

Awesome coin and great score! That's one coin I hope to own someday.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: sasushi on May 24, 2012, 04:29:50 AM
the one where she is sitting (signature edition) I d like to get..... :drool:

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on May 24, 2012, 08:13:21 AM
I m glad it got a 69.......

Always a pleasure seeing coins of Soong Ching Ling. Beautiful portrait.


exchange
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Post by: exchange on May 24, 2012, 08:15:24 AM
the one where she is sitting (signature edition) I d like to get..... :drool:



Tell me about it, the silver ounce coin (signature edition) is the one coin I am missing and never seen it for under $4000.
Thats why I am still missing it :(

For those who do not know what the coin looks like, below is the image.

http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=16514616742&ali_trackid=2:mm_14507416_2297358_8935934,0:1337861974_3z7_1534359199


exchange
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Post by: Year of the Dog on June 03, 2012, 07:32:44 PM
I picked this up over the weekend.  Thanks to everyone that has helped me with my MS/PF collection.

I'm always buying so please send me PMs of you have 70s for sale.
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Post by: Year of the Dog on June 03, 2012, 07:33:45 PM
pic 2
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Post by: badon on June 03, 2012, 08:10:44 PM
You have always been a savvy buyer. That is a very nice coin - definitely a keeper.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: sasushi on June 12, 2012, 01:41:27 AM
My latest buy - why has it got 3 stars and do you find it often?
Title: 1995 Wudang Mountain Palaces
Post by: BoyBlueJay on June 12, 2012, 08:36:13 PM
3 silver 1 ounce medals issued in 1995 featuring the Wudang Mountain Palaces - the Gold Palace, the Zixiao Palace and the Nanyan Palace.  Mintage only 7,000 sets. 
Title: 1994 Three Gorges Yangtse River
Post by: BoyBlueJay on June 12, 2012, 08:38:10 PM
3 silver 1 ounce medals issued in 1994 featuring the Three Gorges of the Yangtse River - the Nanjih Gate, the Goddess Peak and the Kui Gate.  Mintage only 5,000 sets.
Title: 1996 Shennongia Forest
Post by: BoyBlueJay on June 12, 2012, 08:40:05 PM
 3 silver 1 ounce medals issued in 1996 featuring scenes from the Shennongia Forest - the Ban Bi Rock, the Hong Ping Gallery Pass and the Yan Zi Ya Pass.  Mintage only 8,000 sets.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on June 12, 2012, 11:34:49 PM
We have been entering these into the Coin Compendium, and we noticed that they say 27 g silver on the back, but your eBay listings say 1 ounce.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BoyBlueJay on June 13, 2012, 12:48:22 AM
Yeah, I use 1/2 ounce or 1 ounce more as a size reference than an actual weight indicator.  Most of the half ounce size silver Chinese medals say 1/2 ounce.  But the full ounce size medals sometimes say 1 ounce and sometimes say 27 grams.  I think of them as either 1/2 ounce size or 1 ounce size.  There are tiny weight variances in the planchets anyway, hence NGC's decision to no longer put weights on the slabs.
Title: 1996 Gold Panda 1 oz. 100 Yuan
Post by: Silverfox111 on June 22, 2012, 08:28:35 PM
Recently acquired from Original Purchaser:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2297.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2298.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2295.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2305.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on June 22, 2012, 09:24:02 PM
Those are gorgeous photos. What kind of camera are you using?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on June 22, 2012, 09:33:06 PM
Yeah, I use 1/2 ounce or 1 ounce more as a size reference than an actual weight indicator.  Most of the half ounce size silver Chinese medals say 1/2 ounce.  But the full ounce size medals sometimes say 1 ounce and sometimes say 27 grams.  I think of them as either 1/2 ounce size or 1 ounce size.  There are tiny weight variances in the planchets anyway, hence NGC's decision to no longer put weights on the slabs.

That's what would be called a "nominal" value, which means "in name". Nominal values still retain meaning, but they come with the understanding that there is variance. Usually the variances are controlled, and described as having a tolerance of some sort. For example, a nominal value of 1 troy ounce might come with an acceptable tolerance of plus or minus 10%. Since 1 troy ounce is 31.1 grams, 10% is 3.1 grams. That gives an acceptable weight range of 28.0 g to 34.2 grams. Of course, that's just an example.

For a mint, where the metal itself is where all the value is, it might be sensible to have only a minus tolerance, and to make it a bit bigger than 10%, or maybe not even bother to measure it. That might be why they say the coins are 27 grams. It would be "specification" creep, where they realize can't get away with telling people it's 1 oz, so they just pick pick a lower value of 27 grams to be their new nominal value, and accept whatever rolls out of the planchet mill as long as it doesn't look obviously defective.

That's pretty typical of early Chinese quality control :) Japan was the same way in the 1950's to 1970's. Now, all the "good stuff" comes from China and Japan, haha.
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Post by: Gilmore on June 22, 2012, 09:40:31 PM
Those are gorgeous photos. What kind of camera are you using?

Yeah, these photos are really gorgeous. I have been experimenting with coin photography at the past few weeks. I found out that it is not the camera that makes the big difference but the light. I achieved excellent results with point and shoot camera when the coin is inside a light box (light tent).
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Post by: Silverfox111 on June 22, 2012, 10:13:46 PM
Those are gorgeous photos. What kind of camera are you using?

Thanks for the compliments even though i should have done a better job on the last pic of the coin in the box. But when your shooting inside a 10" distance at f4.0 the outer portions of the capture will naturally tend to be softer versus the center of the lens.

I used a Canon 60D DSLR with a Sigma 17-50 f2.8 OS HSM lens. Camera in Manual mode, Lens set at 50mm, Camera set at ISO-400, F4.0, SS/125. Also used a Canon 580EX II Speedlite in ETTL mode mounted on the DSLR and a Halogen 150 watt mounted on a tripod about 6ft. from coin for additional direct lighting.

Besides a few coins photography is my primary hobby since i retired in 2006.

Regards,  ;)  
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Gilmore on June 22, 2012, 10:17:25 PM
I used a Canon 60D DSLR with a Sigma 17-50 f2.8 OS HSM lens. Camera in Manual mode, Lens set at 50mm, Camera set at ISO-400, F4.0, SS/125. Also used a Canon 580EX II Speedlite in ETTL mode mounted on the DSLR and a Halogen 150 watt mounted on a tripod about 6ft. from coin for additional direct lighting.

Regards,  ;)   

Do you photograph proof coins the same way?
After seeing these amazing photos I can't wait to some more if you have.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BChung on June 22, 2012, 10:18:56 PM
feel free to use any pics that i have posted if any.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on June 22, 2012, 10:33:57 PM
feel free to use any pics that i have posted if any.

I think you meant to post that in this topic?:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=5260.0

Also, Silverfox111, if you have photos you want to share, you can post there too. A few of us are putting some effort into collecting all the freely available photos into the Coin Compendium, so they'll be easy to find and utilize.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Silverfox111 on June 22, 2012, 10:39:55 PM
Do you photograph proof coins the same way?
After seeing these amazing photos I can't wait to some more if you have.

The above 1996 Gold Panda is the 1oz. Proof. Listed as only 1500 minted and no one really knows how many were actually produced or how many melted. My recently deceased Mother-in-law purchased this proof coin in 1999. I am fairly sure she bought it just because she always liked Bears and not because of the low mint number. In 1999 this coin was not much over spot prices and NGC MS62 St. Gaudens $20.00 Double Eagles at that time were selling for around $500.00 or less.

Below is the above coin taken at a slightly different angle to depict the gold color:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2293.jpg)

Regards, ;)
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Post by: Panda Halves on June 24, 2012, 02:01:24 AM
Aside from the awesome photography that 1996 PF is in absolutely spectacular condition...
Congratulations!  :w00t:
Just curious.... Do you plan on getting it graded.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: banyantree on June 24, 2012, 03:30:29 AM
@Querikiol:

here an other photo from a chinacoin.

Banyantree
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: banyantree on June 24, 2012, 03:38:57 AM
@Querikiol:

here an other photo from a chinacoin.

Banyantree
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Post by: pandamonium on June 24, 2012, 09:10:43 AM
Very nice!   Thats one of the MCC that I cannot afford but is on my wish list........
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Silverfox111 on June 24, 2012, 09:59:48 AM
Aside from the awesome photography that 1996 PF is in absolutely spectacular condition...
Congratulations!  :w00t:
Just curious.... Do you plan on getting it graded.

I am hesitant in mailing the coin to NGC or allowing a PCGS dealer to send it in so i might just take a mini-vacation to the upcomimg Long Beach show in several months since they will provide on-site grading. Although i have seen several 69 graded coins and after closely inspecting this particular piece with a microscope and concluding it does appear very nice you never know what the pro-graders will label it. From my understanding the 1995 & 1996 1 oz. proofs were all packaged in these hard round plastic capsules versus a bag from the Shenyang mint factory. This coin has never been removed from the capsule so i have no idea what the extreme side edges might reveal.

Regards
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on June 29, 2012, 01:01:27 PM
A few pick ups at a coin show this morning in Florida.  The photos are real bad, battery on the camera was going dead.   Ended up paying $350 for the six coins



(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/004.jpg)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/002.jpg)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/008.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Dragons_Are_Silly on June 29, 2012, 03:55:36 PM
 :blink:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Querikiol on June 29, 2012, 11:04:01 PM
@Querikiol:

here an other photo from a chinacoin.

Banyantree

What is the name of the coin? not familiar with that coin...
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Querikiol on June 29, 2012, 11:06:07 PM
(http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1115.0;attach=13783;image)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on July 01, 2012, 12:17:08 AM
That is a 1995 5 oz silver dragon boat festival coin:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/270904559851?ssPageName=STRK:MEDWX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1435.l2649

It looks like there's also a 2002:

http://china-mint.info/2002-chinese-coins.html

More info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duanwu_Festival
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_boat
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Post by: Panda Express on July 14, 2012, 09:46:10 PM
Hello forum members.  It has been a while since I posted on the forum.  I just wanted to share 2 recent MCC purchases that set me back a couple of grand, but I am glad that I have these beautiful rare coins in my possession. I decided to concentrate on scarce to rare 1 oz investment grade modern Chinese gold coins.  The 1994 100Y gold unicorn NGC PF 69 is my prize piece with a low actual mintage of less than 1000. NGC currently has only 133 of these gold unicorn coins graded in PF 69.  My other beauty is the 2001-D 500Y 1 oz gold panda.  The estimated surviving population according to Peter Anthony's Gold and Silver Panda Coin Buyer's Guide is less than 2000. This is a very difficult gold panda to receive a grade of MS-69.   There are only 15 out of a total of 35 NGC certified 2001 D 1 oz. gold pandas that graded MS-69 as of this date.  The rarity comes with the grade.  IMHO this gold panda is probably one of the most undervalued scare pandas out in the market today. I wanted to thank Arif from 3xW.COINS888.COM for allowing an easy smooth transaction during my recent purchase on this gorgeous coin.  
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on July 14, 2012, 09:50:27 PM
Here is the 2001 D 500Y 1 oz gold panda MS-69

Cheers!  ;)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on July 14, 2012, 10:10:41 PM
Very nice! It's an amazing coincidence that you bought the 1994 gold unicorn right before the 1994 silver unicorns start getting hot. I'm sure people will be looking to obtain the gold one too, at higher prices than you paid for it.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on July 14, 2012, 10:22:27 PM
Very nice! It's an amazing coincidence that you bought the 1994 gold unicorn right before the 1994 silver unicorns start getting hot. I'm sure people will be looking to obtain the gold one too, at higher prices than you paid for it.

I have taken the opportunity during the summer slow down which will not last for very long to purchase some rare gold pieces. The prices of the unicorns have been going down for a while, but recently the unicorns are starting to pick up in price. The photos are of no comparison than to actually view this coin up front before your own eyes. I admire the intricate details of the Unicorn coin. I will be holding on to this one for a while.  Thanks Badon.
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Post by: didochili on July 15, 2012, 10:51:24 AM
Here are my platinum unicorns.
I've recently completed the unicorn series - not including the ones larger than 1oz.

The 1/4 1996 pt is a recent purchase. I took advantage of the recent price pull back. I probably could have got a better deal than the 9.7k. But it's just so hard to see one of them becoming available.
A few months ago, I did see one on Clark's site (PF69 Ultra cameo) for $9k I recall. I thought about it, then thought maybe I could wait. Then it was gone in a couple of days. It just appears as a better deal after it's gone, isn't that how it usually goes. So I've been waiting for another one for a few months and this is it.

The 1 oz 1996 pt I bought it at the peak of the market. However I got a decent deal from a friend for I think 14k. It will hold its value I'm sure.

The 1 oz 1997 pt is the coin that got me started. I bought it for like 3k in 2008. At the time, the market price for it was like 4k. So it might look like a super great deal now, but at the time it was just a good deal. It did stay on ebay efor 30 minutes before I bought it. I remember the seller had a feedback rating of ~98.5% and I decided to call him and talked to him before I clicked on the buy it now.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: didochili on July 15, 2012, 11:12:31 AM
Here are my gold 1oz unicorns.

The 1994 one is the twin brother of the one panda express showed I believe. I bought it from nubz as well and I believe he sent those in the same batch to NGC. I bought it before the unicorn price run up so I did pretty well.

The 1996 one I bought it from Nick. Fair deal at the time for 6.5k.

The 1995 I bought it at the peak of the market for 17k I think.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on July 15, 2012, 11:18:36 AM
Here are my gold 1oz unicorns.

The 1994 one is the twin brother of the one panda express showed I believe. I bought it from nubz as well and I believe he sent those in the same batch to NGC. I bought it before the unicorn price run up so I did pretty well.

The 1996 one I bought it from Nick. Fair deal at the time for 6.5k.

The 1995 I bought it at the peak of the market for 17k I think.

 :drool:
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Post by: Lightsview on July 15, 2012, 11:29:14 AM
didochili, that's the most impressive unicorn collection I've ever seen! WOW! Just like the unicorns, I'm wondering if I'm actually in a fantasy land:)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: didochili on July 15, 2012, 11:50:32 AM
didochili, that's the most impressive unicorn collection I've ever seen! WOW! Just like the unicorns, I'm wondering if I'm actually in a fantasy land:)

Thank you! It's nice to finish a series. I started this series in 2008 and it took 4 years.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on July 15, 2012, 05:53:14 PM
Didochili,  I'm literally speechless!  That is what you call a unicorn collection.  Hope to see more of your collections in the near future. Although I haven't heard from Nubz for a while on this forum, he still has an impressive collection of MCC. Congrats!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: didochili on July 15, 2012, 07:19:44 PM
Didochili,  I'm literally speechless!  That is what you call a unicorn collection.  Hope to see more of your collections in the near future. Although I haven't heard from Nubz for a while on this forum, he still has an impressive collection of MCC. Congrats!

Thank you, Panda Express!
Yeah, he's got quite a collection. I think he holds on to the best stuff.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on July 15, 2012, 08:08:34 PM
Thank you, Panda Express!
Yeah, he's got quite a collection. I think he holds on to the best stuff.

I only started collecting modern Chinese coins since late 2010.  The collection you have is pretty tough to come by these days even if you have the dry powder to purchase these rare coins. The selection in investment grade unicorns are very limited nowadays.  I can assume that it may take me some time to amass a collection of your caliber over the years.  I have some catching up to do. Thanks for sharing your collection.
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Post by: comeaux on July 16, 2012, 12:20:37 AM
didochili & panda express ... amazing coins for your collections ... very nice !  :w00t:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on July 16, 2012, 02:44:38 AM
didochili & panda express ... amazing coins for your collections ... very nice !  :w00t:

Thanks Comeaux for the generous compliment.  Post some of your amazing Chinese coin collections once in a while. Nice to hear from you.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on July 16, 2012, 08:21:05 AM
It just appears as a better deal after it's gone, isn't that how it usually goes.

It sure does, and I'm sure its the same on the seller side.

Very nice coins and I also very much enjoyed your personal experience in regards to each purchased coin. To me it is one of the most fascinating things to read about new acquisitions. Anyone of us can buy, but the stories behind why we buy and how we came across having the coins are all unique and makes us the readers appreciate the buyer's efforts in pursuing their goal.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Halves on July 16, 2012, 12:03:50 PM
It sure does, and I'm sure its the same on the seller side.

Very nice coins and I also very much enjoyed your personal experience in regards to each purchased coin. To me it is one of the most fascinating things to read about new acquisitions. Anyone of us can buy, but the stories behind why we buy and how we came across having the coins are all unique and makes us the readers appreciate the buyer's efforts in pursuing their goal.

exchange

Very well stated. I can tell from your words that you are a passionate collector.
The stories behind important coins are sometimes more interesting than the coins themselves.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on August 01, 2012, 04:36:44 PM
 :001_tt1:

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandaccumulator on August 01, 2012, 07:37:39 PM
What a beautiful coin. What's the pop of grade 70?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: DiggingNorway on August 02, 2012, 02:10:38 AM
six :)
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Post by: Underbidder on August 02, 2012, 02:15:36 AM
Simply gorgeous-

I have been searching for one of these in such nice condition for a long time-

Congrats on adding such a beauty to your collection.
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Post by: DiggingNorway on August 02, 2012, 02:32:27 AM
Thank you :) I bought it for the bullion dealership RAW though, so its not part of personal collection... buts its nice to have seened it - it will be auctioned sonn I guess
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Post by: Underbidder on August 02, 2012, 02:50:56 AM
Eye-popping frosting and very clean strike, should find a very appreciative new owner in auction.
Title: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on August 02, 2012, 08:49:49 PM
I haven't purchased any CMC since early this year. Why? I am not able to locate coins and medals of my interest at fair prices. Many of the items I am interested are about 15%+ more than they were last year. So in the meantime while I wait and continue to wait and possibly wait forever, my collector's instinct took over and picked up an original Russian theatrical poster of Mei Lanfang (24x18) from 1957 from when he performed in Moscow for less than 3 ounces of silver. I was also able to pickup a nice wooden glass frame for under $20, total cost under $100.
 
I don't know much about posters, I do have a few which I have purchased over 20 years ago but they aren't worth much, I purchased some original posters because I enjoyed the movies such as Superman from 1979, E.T. 1982, JAWS 1975, etc.. Framing them costed me more than the posters themselves at the time!

As I have mentioned in past threads, anything that is stamp related to Mei Lanfang is selling like chocolate candies at very high prices while his official PRC silver medals are dormant, although now $400 for the pair, still a far cry from what his other items are selling for. I can't imagine been more than a few surviving copies of this poster in the world and that may even be to much.
 
Most of the Russian posters from that era are propaganda related and they are plentiful. This one however caught my attention as I have been a collector of unsual Mei Lanfang memorabilia since last year. For something like this to have survived the many decades from a country like the Soviet Union is pretty remarkable. Considering how it was kept, I am amazed it still looks good and importantly unrestored. Here you have the interest of both Russian and Chinese collectors. If a bidding war would ever to occur on any one item between these two nationals, the sky would be the limit. Who knows, we may have experienced that when the "Scream" sold for $120 Million.
 
I have a few Russian friends who have assisted me in the text translation. It is very important to know what every text on any item means because you never know where the real value of an item can come from. In this case the accompagning cast of Mei Lanfang such as the composer, designer, sound director, etc... can be very significant to collectors. Maybe one of them is extremely famous for working with major stars like Mei Lanfang. The Chinese names were translated from Russian but if any fellow members see any mistakes with the wirting of the Chinese names, I would appreciate the correction.
 
 
Chinese Fictional-documentary film
Reklamfilm Moscow
Poster artist - Korf I.
Price 0,20 rubles
Film Production: Peking Film Studio, 1955
Foreign version film 1957
 
Director: Tsu Guan
Cameramans: Yu-Yun', Yakovlev V.
Composer: Van Chzhen-Bin
Designer: Khu Zhao-Sy
Sound directors: Van Shao-Zhen and Gordon K.
 
Here's a quote from http://www.chinesemirror.com/index/2007/06/mei_lanfang_ear.html which amplifies Mei Lanfangs popularity and interest.
"Mei's dominance of his art cannot be overstated.  It was Chaplin, it was Sinatra, it was The Beatles – but more:  Chaplin had Lloyd and Arbuckle, Sinatra had Crosby, The Beatles had the Stones; but Mei Lanfang was unequaled, totally without competition".
 
The ability of owning something of great value for people like me is to purchase it before it becomes one.
This could be one of my best buys, however I may not be around to find out.


exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Lightsview on August 02, 2012, 10:33:58 PM

The ability of owning something of great value for people like me is to purchase it before it becomes one.

exchange

So true... Congrats on another astute purchase!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandaccumulator on August 03, 2012, 01:20:55 AM
Anyone know what would be the current market value on this Xinjiang Autonomy 30th Anniv. silver coin PF70? How about for a PF69? I have seen PF69 auctioned off for close to $3k, but that was the peak price from last year.
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Post by: pandamonium on August 03, 2012, 02:14:44 AM
1985 Xinjiang 10 Y PF 69 last one I saw asking price was over $4000.  If I see it again will post ebay #...................
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Post by: pandaccumulator on August 03, 2012, 02:19:49 AM
ASking price can be 30-50% higher than fair markewt value, depends on who is selling.
Title: Qing Ming Festival 80 mm Copper 2010 Mintage Only 800 Pieces
Post by: BoyBlueJay on August 03, 2012, 04:14:31 PM
The Shanghai mint has really outdone themselves.  Qing Ming Festival 80 mm copper medal with only 800 pieces minted.  First ever certified by NGC.
Title: Shanghai Mint Brass 90 mm Dragon 2011
Post by: BoyBlueJay on August 03, 2012, 04:22:58 PM
Another beautiful medal from the Shanghai mint.  Still using the same technique where they tone and buff after striking to give that wonderful antique finish.  The only drawback is that the grading tops out at 67 because of this.  Still a stunning piece that is individually numbered.  Mintage 3,000 pieces and one of my personal favorites.
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Post by: pandamonium on August 03, 2012, 09:53:41 PM
Awesome medals Jay........
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Post by: Imperial_Dragon on August 11, 2012, 10:38:38 AM
Newest MCC, 2012 5oz Peking Opera.  Not a huge fan of coloured coins, however, this one catches my eye.  And didn't have a choice to buy since wife is Peking Opera fan.
Title: Yellow Crane Tower
Post by: BoyBlueJay on August 12, 2012, 03:23:28 PM
Yellow Crane Tower
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragondollar on August 12, 2012, 10:35:54 PM
Wow, I really like the dragon medal... Very nice!
Title: Coin Designs Of Chen Jian 80 mm Copper Mintage Only 500 Pieces 2002
Post by: BoyBlueJay on August 22, 2012, 03:22:18 PM
Beautiful 80 mm copper medal 2002 commemorating the coins by the famous designer Chen Jian. Mintage only 500 pieces.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on August 22, 2012, 06:16:08 PM
That Chen Jian coin is amazing, and historically important. I'm surprised such an important coin has only been graded so recently. Is that the first one through NGC?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Gilmore on August 22, 2012, 11:00:51 PM
I agree the Chen Jian medal is amazing, the 69 grade is also amazing for a copper medal. I have an identical one now at NGC.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on August 23, 2012, 12:39:17 AM
Copper coins are hard to get in 69 grade. The big copper ones almost never get 69 grades. It looks like some of the newer medallic issues after the end of the golden age in 2004/2009 are getting the 69 grade, but it is unusual for a big pre-2004 copper coin to get a 69 grade. Off the top of my head, I don't remember seeing any others. Maybe BoyBlueJay can explain the grading of the big coppers for us. I will be interested to know whether 69's are indeed easier to find after the golden age.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: low on August 23, 2012, 04:02:20 AM
There were some 23mm copper medal in PF69 grade. They were issued as part of the 1979 - 1986 proof set.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: badon on August 23, 2012, 04:43:14 AM
Those are the lunars, right?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: low on August 23, 2012, 04:50:08 AM
Yes, but only for 1979 - 1986 (not issued for 1980)

Something like this - http://search.ebay.com/320961461736
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: low on August 23, 2012, 04:57:37 AM
Beautiful 80 mm copper medal 2002 commemorating the coins by the famous designer Chen Jian. Mintage only 500 pieces.

Chen Jian is the designer behind the 1982 panda. He is also a very well respected designer/engraver for larger copper medal.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: radderlee on August 23, 2012, 05:01:19 AM
My panda madel of 1993 CHINA WILDLIFE PROTECTION SILVER-PLATED CU-NI. made by shenyang mint.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: radderlee on August 24, 2012, 04:07:25 AM
Yes, that is correct. The book stops at year 1997. I always wondered why Mr. Ge did not include the following years.

exchange

Mr. Ge do not have collecting every madels from people's bank of china and three main mints, for his view, the madels collecting is not complete.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mook on August 26, 2012, 05:17:16 AM
Nobody wanted a few months ago, sometimes the market is crazy

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Post by: badon on August 26, 2012, 04:48:48 PM
And it's getting crazier!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mook on August 27, 2012, 06:16:17 AM
After a big stupidity with Malaysian crook, I had the opportunity to purchase this coin, it was many months I waited an opportunity
I am very happy with this purchase :001_smile:

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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Year of the Dog on August 27, 2012, 11:20:01 AM
Nice Small Date there Mook.  the 1990 Small Date seems to be doing well as it's gaining recognition for being very rare.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mook on August 27, 2012, 11:32:04 AM
Hello Year of the Dog

Yes, this is what I noticed more than a year, and the low number listed in PCGS & NGC is very low, the 1/2 and 1/4 oz also
Title: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 27, 2012, 01:31:38 PM
My first purchase of the year and most likely my only. A set I have been looking for a few years finally was offered to me at a reasonable price.
The 1979 Beijing scenery gold metal set with a total mintage of 2000. This IMO is the best looking wooden box for this set I have seen and by far the most beautiful one I own.
The flowers, the earings, the long collar of the dress, the bracelet are all metal, hand shaped and carefully placed on the hand painted portrait.
The box alone weighs 18 ounces. The details are pretty impressive considering its 1979.


exchange
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Post by: Underbidder on September 27, 2012, 02:01:53 PM
Can I be the first to congratulate you?  I have not seen that incredibible version before, it is likely the Crown Jewel of all Chinese OMPs.
I have a very similar box made for a single Beijing Scenary coin, up to this point the nicest I've seen, but your new acquisition far exceeds it in scope and beauty.

I have two full sets, each with different ornate boxes.  If you ever run across another like this one, please let me know.

I believe this to be a very special and undervalued set.  The first Modern Chinese gold medal set, only 2000 made, and most were broken up and given out to dignitaries I've been told. This set will hold a unique and very valuable place, and the proper setting is the incredibly beautiful unmatched OMP art boxes.

Congratulations again!


My 1979 Beijing Scenery Single Box:


Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mook on September 27, 2012, 02:45:05 PM
This is really beautiful, the box and its design is very nice, more in a very good condition
This is a very nice purchase
Congratulations Exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 27, 2012, 06:49:10 PM
Can I be the first to congratulate you?  I have not seen that incredibible version before, it is likely the Crown Jewel of all Chinese OMPs.
I have a very similar box made for a single Beijing Scenary coin, up to this point the nicest I've seen, but your new acquisition far exceeds it in scope and beauty.

I have two full sets, each with different ornate boxes.  If you ever run across another like this one, please let me know.

I believe this to be a very special and undervalued set.  The first Modern Chinese gold medal set, only 2000 made, and most were broken up and given out to dignitaries I've been told. This set will hold a unique and very valuable place, and the proper setting is the incredibly beautiful unmatched OMP art boxes.

Congratulations again!

Thank you Underbidder. I remember you writing something about this set in which these boxes have a meaning. From what I was able to recently find out, it signifies a legend where a princess wanted to become a goddess. I don't have any further information, not sure if you have any specific details.

If I ever come across another, I will definitely let you know. This set came as a surprise and it was perfect timing. I had just finished selling my remaining silver bullion. With current silver prices at close to $35, and MCM at depressed prices, I did not think twice.

I completely agree, undervalued it is, and maybe because they are medals, but still, they are an official PRC product and the art is just stunning.
and people consider 1978 apple mother boards art selling at $500.000!!!


sincerely,
exchange
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Post by: exchange on September 27, 2012, 06:52:06 PM
This is really beautiful, the box and its design is very nice, more in a very good condition
This is a very nice purchase
Congratulations Exchange

Thank you Mook.
You are absolutely correct, condition is key and to find a set that was store and untouched for 30+ years was quite a challenge.

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Lightsview on September 27, 2012, 08:00:31 PM
An awesome find! Congrats Exchange on your purchase!
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Post by: poconopenn on September 27, 2012, 09:26:51 PM
Congratulations, exchange.

1979 Beijing scenery gold medal set is definitely the crown jewel of all Chinese OMP as suggested by Underbidder. Attached are pictures (copied from Mr. Haung's book) of box for individual medal of this set mentioned by underbidder.   
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Post by: Underbidder on September 27, 2012, 10:25:30 PM
Greatly appreciated, Poconopenn, as always!

My single box for 1979 Beijing Scenary medal  is different from those shown: it is wooden, recessed cover, with colorful painting of a woman with ornate clothing and metal jewelry, like Exchange's.

I have not seen another like it until today, and Exchange's is even more stunning.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: poconopenn on September 27, 2012, 11:20:04 PM
1979 Beijing scenery medal set was the first gold coin made at Shanghai Mint since the founding of PRC.  The initial offering of this set was at H.K. in the packages of single medal or 4 medals set. All sets (1500) were sold out in less than one day. This set is very difficult to find in US.
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 27, 2012, 11:28:37 PM
The box is so awesome and really appreciate the beauty of the hand crafted box. Congrats Exchange.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 27, 2012, 11:34:28 PM
Exchange,

Here's mine another box variety

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on September 27, 2012, 11:42:39 PM
I'm glad you posted the photos of your set, SSS.  It is beautiful too, I was going to mention yours as well but I have had a tough time staying online today.

It is apparent for all the reason Poconopenn mentioned and more, that the 1979 Beijing Scenary set is special, and can be looked at as a "Cornerstone Set" for Modern Chinese Coins.




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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 27, 2012, 11:46:25 PM
Thank you very much Underbidder. This set is extremely rare and hard to find with perfect condition without toning nor stain.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on September 28, 2012, 08:50:17 AM
Thank you all for sharing! Now, I want to collect these boxes! I would not mind owning one of each, especially Exchange's and SSS's!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 28, 2012, 09:15:48 AM
Exchange,

Here's mine another box variety



Hi Straitssettlementshop,

Thank you. Yes, I remember your set. Thats how I knew of that box design and from there I researched the possibilities of been others. Maybe someday I could own several different versions.

A few months ago, I had listed the boxes I was aware for the 1979 gold medal set and I included yours.
http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=5818.msg35431#msg35431

sincerely,
exchange




Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 28, 2012, 09:25:38 AM
Congratulations, exchange.

1979 Beijing scenery gold medal set is definitely the crown jewel of all Chinese OMP as suggested by Underbidder. Attached are pictures (copied from Mr. Haung's book) of box for individual medal of this set mentioned by underbidder.  

Thank you Poconopenn.

Is there an estimate of how many different types of boxes there are for this set. Considering the mintage is 2000, and we seem to have found at least 15 to 20 different boxes, and most likely more.  With all the different boxes made for this set, is it reasonable to suggest that there can not be more than fifty to a hundred of each box and possibly lower depending on which ones were given to dignitaries as Underbidder suggested, political figures, etc...

sincerely,
exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandamonium on September 28, 2012, 09:40:03 AM
WOW!   The amount of effort and detail put into making coin boxes.   Exchange is right about Chinese antiques.  These boxes may be the next Chinese antiques that will moon shot in value.  I will keep all of my coin boxes/coa, even the cheapies..............   
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: NBM on September 28, 2012, 10:52:53 AM
Beautiful!
From "Modern Chinese Commemorative Gold & Silver Coins Vol.1"
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 28, 2012, 11:16:48 AM
Hi exchange,

Thanks alot for sharing the info and research you have done. No one knows exactly how many variety of the design boxes there are. The hand crafted boxes are an antique itself with such beauty it holds.

Regards,
SSS
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on September 28, 2012, 05:08:12 PM
Some are visionnaire, exchange is one of them.

Thank you for sharing!

dragonfan
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on September 28, 2012, 07:00:32 PM
After lamenting how difficult it has been to find anything of interest in the local coin shops, look what walked in the door...purchased today as bullion for a bit over spot.  I'm sipping some wine now.  If NCS can get those copper spots off, I'll be even happier.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on September 28, 2012, 07:08:05 PM
I recommend to keep the copper spot intact (authentic)!

Congratulations!

dragonfan
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Honus on September 28, 2012, 08:36:06 PM
That's a great find Birdman, a very lucky find.  Congrats!

Are you sure you're going to send it off to NCS?   I don't know...I like the big spot on the back.  No joke.  It's some unusual aging, beautiful in a very raw way.  And the OMP has the original little white tag, which is nice.  I'm not anti-grading - I'm an NGC member myself - but that looks cool.  Once you NCS and encapsulate it, it will look like every other shiny '95 half ounce gold...but like it is now, it's an untouched "antique".  (call me crazy!)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Underbidder on September 28, 2012, 09:59:25 PM
My single box for 1979 Beijing Scenery medal is different from those shown: it is wooden, recessed cover, with colorful painting of a woman with beautiful ornate clothing and metal jewelry, like Exchange's.

I have not seen another like it until today, and like Exchange's, it is truly the rarest of stunningly beautiful Modern Chinese Coin OMP treasures. To those of us who value remarkable OMP as antique settings inseperable from special issues, they are nearly priceless.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on September 28, 2012, 10:30:48 PM
Congrats  Underbidder to your 1979 set it is truly beautiful. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on September 28, 2012, 10:35:18 PM
That's a great find Birdman, a very lucky find.  Congrats!

Are you sure you're going to send it off to NCS?   I don't know...I like the big spot on the back.  No joke.  It's some unusual aging, beautiful in a very raw way.  And the OMP has the original little white tag, which is nice.  I'm not anti-grading - I'm an NGC member myself - but that looks cool.  Once you NCS and encapsulate it, it will look like every other shiny '95 half ounce gold...but like it is now, it's an untouched "antique".  (call me crazy!)

Yes, very lucky, although it seems like I've had a drought of many months since I've found much special.

Indeed, the copper spots do give it character...we'll see what I end up doing with it.  I'm just savoring the moment tonight.  A bit of an adrenaline rush.

I wonder what that ink scribbled on the COA means?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 29, 2012, 12:40:55 PM
My single box for 1979 Beijing Scenery medal is different from those shown: it is wooden, recessed cover, with colorful painting of a woman with beautiful ornate clothing and metal jewelry, like Exchange's.

I have not seen another like it until today, and like Exchange's, it is truly the rarest of stunningly beautiful Modern Chinese Coin OMP treasures. To those of us who value remarkable OMP as antique settings inseperable from special issues, they are nearly priceless.

Underbidder, just beautiful. I wonder if this box is one of four designs. Are there 3 other similar box designs for the remaining 3 medals?

I have to tell you, there are tons of cheap jewelry boxes, all very low quality reproductions selling for hundreds of dollars intended for tourists or high maintenance women who just love to spend because they are sold on 5th Avenue or Madison Avenue which they feel justifies high prices for garbage. Here you have an original hand painted product from 30+ years ago and they are discarded as waste.

Sincerely,
exchange



Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Honus on September 29, 2012, 12:46:08 PM
Yes, very lucky, although it seems like I've had a drought of many months since I've found much special.

Indeed, the copper spots do give it character...we'll see what I end up doing with it.  I'm just savoring the moment tonight.  A bit of an adrenaline rush.

I wonder what that ink scribbled on the COA means?

I've seen that before, I don't know what it means either.  And I know what that adrenaline rush feels like...sometimes it's good that it doesn't happen everyday, or it wouldn't feel as good when it happens :-)    I don't find many '90's halves in my area, so you hit a homerun there.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on September 29, 2012, 12:55:46 PM

I wonder what that ink scribbled on the COA means?

Hi Birdman,

The ink scribbled on the COA is the month/date/year or date/month/year, (I never seem to remember) it was sealed by the mint, it seems it says "1/12/95"


exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Josip Broz Tito on October 01, 2012, 04:20:48 AM
I proudly presents my new fine China Set  :001_tt1:


Silk Road 1995
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: wg on October 01, 2012, 04:45:36 AM
.... little pants button.

:001_wub:


  
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Josip Broz Tito on October 01, 2012, 04:50:42 AM
Ist ja ein putziges kleines Kerlchen  :thumbup:

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on October 01, 2012, 01:40:09 PM
After lamenting how difficult it has been to find anything of interest in the local coin shops, look what walked in the door...purchased today as bullion for a bit over spot.  I'm sipping some wine now.  If NCS can get those copper spots off, I'll be even happier.
Nice find Birdman ... especially near spot !  :w00t:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on October 04, 2012, 10:13:32 PM
Just received this Panda Prestige Set from Clark Smith.  My first 1/10 oz gold panda.  Stunning.  I'm debating whether I want to sent them to NGC or not.  I went ahead and purchase another set and probably will keep one set in OMP and sent the other to NGC. 

I think Clark Smith still have one set left.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Honus on October 04, 2012, 10:21:20 PM
Congrats SANDAC, nice set.  I saw that in Clark's store.  I like the way it looks and is presented - I don't know if I'd send that off to NGC.   I guess if you were to get back a couple/few MS70s, it might be worth it.  But it's nice as is.
Title: 2012 Sitting Dragon 3/5 Kilo (600 grams) With The Nine Sons Of The Dragon
Post by: BoyBlueJay on October 05, 2012, 12:21:33 AM
The silver edition limited to 1,000 pieces.  Same 90 mm design as the brass one I posted some time ago.  Over a pound of silver.  Really impressive.  Go Shanghai Mint!

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on October 05, 2012, 06:14:18 AM
My single box for 1979 Beijing Scenery medal is different from those shown: it is wooden, recessed cover, with colorful painting of a woman with beautiful ornate clothing and metal jewelry, like Exchange's.

I have not seen another like it until today, and like Exchange's, it is truly the rarest of stunningly beautiful Modern Chinese Coin OMP treasures. To those of us who value remarkable OMP as antique settings inseperable from special issues, they are nearly priceless.
underdidder, just Gorgeous ! Congratulations !
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dragonfan on October 05, 2012, 06:54:57 PM
I proudly presents my new fine China Set  :001_tt1:


Silk Road 1995

Congratulations Josip Broz Tito! The Dancer is my favorite 5元 silver.
Very beautiful, a vey fine piece!

dragonfan
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Gilmore on October 06, 2012, 02:39:42 AM
Exchange, Underbidder and Straitssettlementshop,
These are unique, amazingly looking boxes. They really stand out of most OMP's I have seen so far. I am sure that even the biggest fan of graded-coins would not think of destroying such a pretty looking set by sending the medals for grading.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Gilmore on October 06, 2012, 02:47:54 AM
Just received this Panda Prestige Set from Clark Smith...  I'm debating whether I want to sent them to NGC or not.

SANDAC,
I agree, this is a stunning set and would leave it as it is. No NGC for such set, in my opinion.
Title: 2011 WWF 50th Anniversay Silver 1 Oz Panda Medal Mintage Only 1,000 Pieces
Post by: BoyBlueJay on October 06, 2012, 04:25:01 PM
Only 1,000 sets were issued.  Each came with this 1 oz silver Panda medal and the regular 2011 silver 10 yuan Panda and the 2011 silver 10 yuan Tibetan Antelope (the WWF coin for 2011).
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Josip Broz Tito on October 06, 2012, 07:00:28 PM
Silk Road 1996, one of most beautiful China Coin Sets  :001_tt1:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Josip Broz Tito on October 06, 2012, 07:07:01 PM
Only 1,000 sets were issued.  Each came with this 1 oz silver Panda medal and the regular 2011 silver 10 yuan Panda and the 2011 silver 10 yuan Tibetan Antelope (the WWF coin for 2011).

I saw another Version of that Medall, it is a Gilded Version and belongs to Set with a 1/4oz WWF Gold Coin and 1/4oz 2011 Gold Panda, obviously there are  two different Version of same Medall, that means a Mintage is splited in two different Amounts.Gilded with only 100 Pieces and Normal Version with 1000 Pieces.

Gilded one:

http://auruminvest-nw.com/moderne-numismatik/china/50-jahre-wwf/china-100-yuan-2011-jubilaums-gold-set-wwf-2x-1-4oz-gold-incl-silbermedaille.html


non Gilded:

http://auruminvest-nw.com/moderne-numismatik/china/50-jahre-wwf/china-20-yuan-2011-jubilaums-gold-set-wwf-2x-1oz-silber-incl-silbermedaille.html
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on October 06, 2012, 08:29:44 PM
Silk Road 1996, one of most beautiful China Coin Sets  :001_tt1:

Beautiful coins Josip Broz Tito.
Such an under rated set. Currently they can still be purchased for about $100 per coin. I don't know to many culturally significant 1oz silver coins that sell for 3x over spot in OMP with a "planned" mintage of 15,000.

exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Josip Broz Tito on October 06, 2012, 08:42:48 PM
Beautiful coins Josip Broz Tito.
Such an under rated set. Currently they can still be purchased for about $100 per coin. I don't know to many culturally significant 1oz silver coins that sell for 3x over spot in OMP with a "planned" mintage of 15,000.

exchange

Thanks for kind Words exchange, there are only a few of those underrated Sets left, i think this one belongs also to this Group:

HF 1989

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Post by: exchange on October 06, 2012, 08:45:11 PM
Thanks for kind Words exchange, there are only a few of those underrated Sets left, i think this one belongs also to this Group:

HF 1989

Yes, this one and the entire run of Historical Figures.

exchange
Title: 1997 Hong Kong Scenery
Post by: BoyBlueJay on October 09, 2012, 10:22:21 AM
First certifed by NGC
Title: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on October 17, 2012, 08:23:54 PM
In hoping to bring some normalcy back to this forum......

I remember the big advertisements made for the 2012 Singapore medals. IMO, these medals were overpriced and still are today. They make the gold panda medals from the 1980's look like peanuts. Here's my latest purchase, paid a little more than 10% over spot for this official PRC product. The 1988 1oz gold medal Sino-American friendship New Orleans, double sealed, coa, box and outerbox, mintage of 1500.
 
 
Comparisons for my specific circumstance:
 
2012 Singapore gold medal
gold content: .5oz
mintage: 2500
official PRC product: No
price: $2000
 
 
1988 Sino-American friendship New Orleans gold medal
gold content: 1oz
mintage: 1500, population left in OMP?
official PRC product: Yes
price: $2000


exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandamonium on October 17, 2012, 09:49:37 PM
10% over spot?  It seems there are many gold MCC close to spot.  I collect silver and not many are close to spot.  (excluding newer high mintage) The gold close to spot have got to be steals and solid future investment.  If I could free up some capitol............
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: r3globe on October 17, 2012, 10:23:28 PM
Unquestionably a good buy.
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Post by: Lightsview on October 17, 2012, 10:31:32 PM
Another great buy Exchange! At $2k its an absolute bargain!!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on October 17, 2012, 10:50:11 PM
10% over spot?  It seems there are many gold MCC close to spot.  I collect silver and not many are close to spot.  (excluding newer high mintage) The gold close to spot have got to be steals and solid future investment.  If I could free up some capitol............

I freed up some capital by selling all my silver bullion at $35+. The recent spike in silver bullion has given me the opportunity to own some very nice Chinese modern gold coins and medals at relatively good prices.


exchange
Title: Classical Chinese Artists 12 Oz 80 mm Silver Medal 2009 Mintage Only 88 Pieces
Post by: BoyBlueJay on October 21, 2012, 04:43:31 PM
Individually numbered and visible through the NGC Peek-A-Boo viewing slot.  This is #4 out of only 88 produced by the Shanghai Mint.
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Post by: SANDAC on October 21, 2012, 07:57:15 PM
Wow, very nice!  I like the name "Peek-A-Boo" slot.  I didn't noticed that feature until you pointed it out.
Take a look at these three 1990 20 oz Dragon and Phoenix in the NGC database:
3357402-012
3357446-001
3539439-001
The serial number for the third one (3539439-001) is located at a different location, and thus have a different Peek-A-Boo.  So out of 547 minted, we actually have two different varieties!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on October 21, 2012, 10:49:32 PM
Hmmm, this is rather interesting:  I took another look at the three 20oz Dragon and Phoenix, and realize there are actually three varieties.  Every one of them are different!
3357446-001 is number #033.  It has mirrored appearance, thin "1990" number (pic #1)
3357402-012 is number #435.  It has mirrored appearance, fat "1990" number that is shifted (pic#2)
3539439-001 is number $520.  It has frosted appearance, thin "1990" number, but the reed is different and stamped number is at different location than previous two. (pic #3)

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: fwang2450 on October 21, 2012, 11:08:32 PM
Hmmm, this is rather interesting:  I took another look at the three 20oz Dragon and Phoenix, and realize there are actually three varieties.  Every one of them are different!
3357446-001 is number #033.  It has mirrored appearance, thin "1990" number (pic #1)
3357402-012 is number #435.  It has mirrored appearance, fat "1990" number that is shifted (pic#2)
3539439-001 is number $520.  It has frosted appearance, thin "1990" number, but the reed is different and stamped number is at different location than previous two. (pic #3)


Wang Zheng says there are 7 varieties of the 1990 20 OZ Dragon and Phoenix. Please see the discussion here:

http://bbs.jibi.net/TopicOther.asp?t=5&BoardID=70&id=235412

Wang Zheng's user name is 军火商.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on October 21, 2012, 11:22:47 PM
7 varieties out of 547 minted!  Thank you for the link.  I shall study it carefully.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on October 21, 2012, 11:41:30 PM
Interesting read.  However, the authors seem to concentrate only on the edge, the different reed patterns.  No one seem to mention the difference in the date.  So the number of variety  can be as large as 2x7=14?  That's staggering.  I can read Chinese, but have very limited writing skill, so please feel free to post my comment on jibi.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: fwang2450 on October 22, 2012, 12:07:20 AM
Interesting read.  However, the authors seem to concentrate only on the edge, the different reed patterns.  No one seem to mention the difference in the date.  So the number of variety  can be as large as 2x7=14?  That's staggering.  I can read Chinese, but have very limited writing skill, so please feel free to post my comment on jibi.
The discussion started with the edge of the coin, but Wang Zheng gives the following summary of the 7 varieties, which should include the different dates:

Coins Number 500 and below were struck with two sets of dies, producing 4 varieties. (The different dates should be included here.)
One variety features intermittent reeds. Coins in this variety should not exceed 43 in number.
One variety features the serial number struck at the 12 o'clock position. There are no more than 16 coins in this variety.
One more variety has no serial number, with only one known speicmen.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on October 22, 2012, 12:24:43 AM
Yes, I see now.  He didn't get into the details of the four different varieties.

I was just looking over the NGC database on 2oz 1990 dragon and silver.  It appears to have two different date varieties as well.  The date looks the same, but they are positioned differently against the background.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on October 22, 2012, 12:53:21 AM
I don't yet know how to split a thread.  Could another moderator split this into a thread titled "varieties of 1990 Dragon and Phoenix"?  I believe there can be productive discovery and discussion.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandamonium on October 22, 2012, 01:11:47 AM
Recently there were posted a 3 coin set for the 35th anniversary silver set w/ photos.  I think there was a fellow giving a speech, cranes and dancers.  Does anyone know where the link is on CCF?   I remember the fellow giving a speech.  Have seen that coin somewhere.  Maybe the photo will jog my memory......
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandamonium on October 22, 2012, 04:24:49 PM
Here is a link to coins and photos.  My understanding is there is a common and proof set.  How to tell the difference?  This set was talked about earlier.  Does anyone know where the photos are?.......



http://www.ebay.com/itm/200834638225;jsessionid=DE324E79C9C4E1503053FA91789ABD99?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fsch%2FCoins-Paper-Money-%2F11116%2Fi.html%3F_from%3DR40%26_nkw%3D200834638225%26_rdc%3D1
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on October 23, 2012, 12:26:00 AM
I'm not familiar with the seller, coinnext, but he has one PF69 Pagoda at BIN of $1300. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VERY-RARE-1984-CHINA-SILVER-36-MM-PAGODA-ZHENJUE-TEMPLE-NGC-PF69UC-MINTAGE-260-/321007857357?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item4abd8f2ecd

He also recently sold a 1984 goldfish PF67 at BIN of $359.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1984-China-Pearl-Scales-Goldfish-Medal-Solid-Silver-36MM-NGC-PF67-Ultra-Cameo-/221144056250?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item337d3681ba&nma=true&si=4r4aInwNWsfyqX0uau8L1zWJWd4%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

The interesting thing about these two items is they are not submitted to NGC as a part of set.  He must've ran across them just as individual coins.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Express on October 23, 2012, 01:30:32 AM
Seems like several sellers are breaking up Pagoda sets to sell them as individual medals.  This gives collectors a chance to complete a set in PF-69.  I also agree with Sandac that this particular medal was not submitted as part of a set.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandamonium on October 23, 2012, 09:10:41 AM
The PF 69 pagoda was first offered on his site for $900.  Coinnext received so many inquires that he raised his price to $1299.  About a week or so ago, I mentioned on CCF to another newbie, a PF 67 pagoda for sale in the $700 range and it sold quickly.  Another seller w/ PF 69 pagodas has them listed at about $2200 and he will not drop price.  The silver pagoda is making a comeback.  What will the market do when NGC releases its long awaited article on pagodas?  .............
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on November 04, 2012, 03:25:12 PM
Just picked these up this morning


1992 Munich and 1988 A.N.A. Cincinnati

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/medal.jpg)


(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/medal2.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Hippanda on November 04, 2012, 06:17:22 PM
My single box for 1979 Beijing Scenery medal is different from those shown: it is wooden, recessed cover, with colorful painting of a woman with beautiful ornate clothing and metal jewelry, like Exchange's.

I have not seen another like it until today, and like Exchange's, it is truly the rarest of stunningly beautiful Modern Chinese Coin OMP treasures. To those of us who value remarkable OMP as antique settings inseperable from special issues, they are nearly priceless.

 :thumbup1:

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Dr650rob on November 04, 2012, 06:24:25 PM
heres a few of mine
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on November 05, 2012, 08:35:37 AM
:thumbup1:
My single box for 1979 Beijing Scenery medal is different from those shown: it is wooden, recessed cover, with colorful painting of a woman with beautiful ornate clothing and metal jewelry, like Exchange's.

Absolutely BEAUTIFUL. These hand painted boxes are truly works of art and there really isn't anything else to compare them to in the numismatic world. We would need to go to the art world for that, and even there, these boxes put to shame many of what is today perceived to be art.


exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: fwang2450 on November 05, 2012, 04:38:04 PM
Absolutely BEAUTIFUL. These hand painted boxes are truly works of art and there really isn't anything else to compare them to in the numismatic world. We would need to go to the art world for that, and even there, these boxes put to shame many of what is today perceived to be art.


exchange

Huang Ruiyong gave a lecture on accessaries including coin boxes. Here is the link:

http://www.xx007.com/show.aspx?id=146714&cid=10

There are quite a few pictures of Beijing Scenery and Year of Children coins. For those who do not understand Chinese, just enjoy the pictures.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: exchange on November 05, 2012, 05:19:15 PM
Huang Ruiyong gave a lecture on accessaries including coin boxes. Here is the link:

http://www.xx007.com/show.aspx?id=146714&cid=10

There are quite a few pictures of Beijing Scenery and Year of Children coins. For those who do not understand Chinese, just enjoy the pictures.
Huang Ruiyong gave a lecture on accessaries including coin boxes. Here is the link:

http://www.xx007.com/show.aspx?id=146714&cid=10

There are quite a few pictures of Beijing Scenery and Year of Children coins. For those who do not understand Chinese, just enjoy the pictures.

Hi Fwang2450,

Thanks to google translator, the entire article makes perfect sense and to highlight what the author said:

"Due to the the new Chinese precious metal coins chapter enthusiasts transformed from most philatelists, so that we can very easily understand a concept: the real philatelic far from such a simple collection of stamps. The same collection of precious metals coins chapter, we want a lot of things outside of the coins chapter collection, because the collection of a lot of things we want is an inseparable part of the chapter as a whole culture of the new Chinese currency.
The integrity of the collection, the collection of these meaningful attachments, can not only enhance our knowledge of coins chapter, is a rare historical materials, witnessed coins chapter from the history of the process of production and circulation.
All in all, when the combination of these attachments to issue gold and silver coins, estimated China Mint Company and the China Gold Coin Corporation simply could not imagine that these accessories even today has become precious, even some attachments will be entering the contemporary cultural relics ranks. What three decades east, west three years. ".

This is exactly why I collect OMP.


exchange
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Hippanda on November 05, 2012, 05:25:04 PM
Thank you FWang and Exchange-

Wonderful information !  Beautiful unique works of art and history to cherish.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Panda Halves on November 05, 2012, 11:41:34 PM
heres a few of mine

Dr650rob,
I am impressed by your collection of smaller pandas and think you have some good insights....
There is a panda or two in that picture I would love to have myself.
Nice.

PH
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Dr650rob on November 06, 2012, 04:00:50 PM
Thanks I'm getting ready to start sending them to ngc(got convinced thanks to this site)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: smokymcpot on November 12, 2012, 01:47:08 AM
Edited.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Vredaren on November 16, 2012, 07:17:52 AM
My modest, recent purchase

1997 Forbidden City Set
(http://i.imgur.com/5LK3N.png)
10 x 5 yuan coins
(http://i.imgur.com/Gcqvu.png)
my first non-panda graded coins
(http://i.imgur.com/qSPB2.png)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Josip Broz Tito on November 16, 2012, 08:56:14 AM
Here are my newest georgeous China Coins.

Tang Dynasty Vault Protector 10 Yuan Gold 1/10oz with very nice presentation Box and 10 Yuan 1oz Silver in OMP.

I am so hapy to purchase those two Coins  :001_tt1:




Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Mirkkanen on November 16, 2012, 11:04:07 PM
Here's a little something I picked up at my LCS today:

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb447/Mirkkanen/YearofChild.jpg)
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb447/Mirkkanen/YearofChildobverse.jpg)

Sadly, this coin has seen its fair share of wear and tear. These pics make it look nice than it really is. It is a meaningful piece that would otherwise fetch quite a hefty sum in higher PF conditions. Enjoy  :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on November 23, 2012, 12:02:51 PM
My 1995 small date gold panda.  Dug it out from the back of my safe.  It turns out in excellent shape.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Dr650rob on November 23, 2012, 12:16:45 PM
Congrats I wish I could dig one of those out of the back of my safe
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on November 23, 2012, 12:42:56 PM
My family has a tradition of buying gold coins of the same birth year as the new addition to the extended family.  These were extra that were purchased, probably gave out as Christmas gift or something.  They were just gold bullions then, they could easily be 1995 American gold Eagles.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Silverfox111 on December 10, 2012, 04:52:15 PM
I had posted the below 1996 Gold Panda Proof 1 oz. coin in its raw form several months back in this thread and finally got around to getting it recently graded by NGC:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2462.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2460.jpg)


Original Raw Photos:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=35750;topic=1115.765;num_replies=924;sesc=580376ebef589de36e0f2df5a0480bb6





Regards,  ;)
Title: Re: 1996 Gold Panda 1 oz. 100 Yuan
Post by: Silverfox111 on December 10, 2012, 05:00:18 PM
Recently acquired from Original Purchaser:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2297.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2298.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2295.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2305.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dynamike51 on December 10, 2012, 05:06:11 PM
I had posted the below 1996 Gold Panda Proof 1 oz. coin in its raw form several months back in this thread and finally got around to getting it recently graded by NGC:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2462.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2460.jpg)


Original Raw Photos:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=35750;topic=1115.765;num_replies=924;sesc=580376ebef589de36e0f2df5a0480bb6





Regards,  ;)

VERY nice !!!!    :001_tt1:
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Post by: dynamike51 on December 10, 2012, 05:07:13 PM
 N34
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Post by: GDG's on December 10, 2012, 05:22:46 PM
N34

Excellent. Always nice to get a great grade while preserving the coin from any future nicks, etc.
 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dynamike51 on December 10, 2012, 05:28:07 PM
Excellent. Always nice to get a great grade while preserving the coin from any future nicks, etc.
 :thumbup:


GDG:

I bet you have one of these in the back of your drawer somewhere.   N4
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on December 10, 2012, 05:47:45 PM
I had posted the below 1996 Gold Panda Proof 1 oz. coin in its raw form several months back in this thread and finally got around to getting it recently graded by NGC:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2462.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/Silverfox111/IMG_2460.jpg)


Original Raw Photos:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?action=post;quote=35750;topic=1115.765;num_replies=924;sesc=580376ebef589de36e0f2df5a0480bb6





Regards,  ;)
:drool:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: bekiz on December 14, 2012, 10:13:33 PM
Slowly starting to build my collection
nothing extraordinary that I've seen here, but still ))
in 1st picture two coins in the lower row are Macau and Japan ... got them in bulk ...
(http://s19.postimage.org/ozz44mkgy/01_DSC_1932.jpg)
(http://s19.postimage.org/9hqh9pqua/1_DSC_1962.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dynamike51 on December 14, 2012, 10:16:55 PM
bekiz,

Your photos are not showing. Can you try to upload them again? Thanks.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Silverfever on December 15, 2012, 04:08:05 AM
Very nice Silverfox.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: bekiz on December 17, 2012, 07:09:25 AM
Slowly starting to build my collection
nothing extraordinary that I've seen here, but still ))
in 1st picture two coins in the lower row are Macau and Japan ... got them in bulk ...
(http://s19.postimage.org/ozz44mkgy/01_DSC_1932.jpg)
(http://s19.postimage.org/9hqh9pqua/1_DSC_1962.jpg)
(http://s19.postimage.org/3qbhts46b/01_DSC_1932.jpg)
(http://s19.postimage.org/sa2cdan8i/1_DSC_1962.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on December 23, 2012, 09:52:48 AM
I have just taken more photos of my dinosaur and would to share with you before sending to the bank vault for safe keeping.

China 1995 1/2oz. gold coin 50Y Dinosaur Brontosaurus NGC PF69, mintage 1000 (Mr.Ge purple book), rated as 3 stars.

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Dr650rob on December 23, 2012, 11:22:15 AM
Those dinosaur coins are really cool that's the first time I've ever seen one
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Silverfox111 on December 23, 2012, 11:25:54 AM
 N31     Very nice & not seen very often !

Regards  ;)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Querikiol on January 02, 2013, 08:40:17 PM
Nice coins we have there.

Can't wait to post it in CC of course with your permission granted.

Best regards,

Querikiol
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Hippanda on January 02, 2013, 08:43:20 PM
 Hi Q !  Long time no see - N25
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Straitssettlementshop on January 02, 2013, 08:51:34 PM
Nice coins we have there.

Can't wait to post it in CC of course with your permission granted.

Best regards,

Querikiol

Hi Q,

Permission granted.

Regards,
SSS
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Querikiol on January 02, 2013, 08:53:13 PM
Yeah! been inactive for months, now I'm back... Thanks though.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Juno Moneta on January 06, 2013, 03:36:46 PM
Yea, I'm not really getting it. I have purchased some - most recently this one - because it's a strike of 23K and pertains to the coins and mints of old.
http://www.moneta-coins.com/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=1647&title=peoples-repancient-coins&cat=654
In general, with the population of China, and world interest, I suppose they're a great investment. Personally, I gotta have coins involved in momentous HISTORY or artistic designs. Pandas are not my cup of tea.
As for impurities in gold coins...wow! How horrid - if it's iron you'll want to keep them in extreme low humidity permanently.
www.Moneta-Coins.com  JM
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: cloudtoground on January 21, 2013, 11:16:06 AM
I have been looking at all the pics and you all have collected some really fine coins.  I was wondering where in China I can buy these coins?  I want to buy a few of the new and the old.  Also interested if there are any dealers on here. Thank you
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: poconopenn on January 21, 2013, 11:32:18 AM
I have been looking at all the pics and you all have collected some really fine coins.  I was wondering where in China I can buy these coins?  I want to buy a few of the new and the old.  Also interested if there are any dealers on here. Thank you

Welcome to the forum

Here are the list of licensed retail stores of China Gold Coin Inc. in major cities inside China.

http://www.chngc.net/Main/D_JG/ShowDetail_709.shtml
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: cloudtoground on January 21, 2013, 04:39:57 PM
Nice, where can I get one of those?  Super nice design.


The Shanghai mint has really outdone themselves.  Qing Ming Festival 80 mm copper medal with only 800 pieces minted.  First ever certified by NGC.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dynamike51 on January 21, 2013, 04:42:12 PM
Nice, where can I get one of those?  Super nice design.



I am sure you can get one from BoyBlueJay, if you stay with this forum.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: cloudtoground on January 21, 2013, 05:10:24 PM
Nice also. Like the firecrackers theme, wish it was used more often.

Children playing with firecrackers during the Celebration of Spring 1999.  Mintage only 3,000 pieces.  One of my personal favorites.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: cloudtoground on January 21, 2013, 05:13:41 PM
Thanks poconopenn, I will be looking that over.

Welcome to the forum

Here are the list of licensed retail stores of China Gold Coin Inc. in major cities inside China.

http://www.chngc.net/Main/D_JG/ShowDetail_709.shtml
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Dr650rob on January 25, 2013, 08:05:34 PM
my new coin
peter i paid $400 (ebay best offer) if you wanna put that in the priceapedia
i hope i gotta good deal
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: davidt3251 on February 05, 2013, 12:44:20 AM
My latest British Coin  ;) arrived in the post from Germany. Looks all original although the plastic coin holder is torn. The box has the name of the exhibition sponsor.
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Post by: dynamike51 on February 05, 2013, 12:47:02 AM
Fantastic score, David.   :thumbup: N39
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Post by: davidt3251 on February 05, 2013, 12:59:34 AM
Actually I must thank fwang2450 for telling me about this coin. He had this coin as his profile picture and once I heard the history from him I had to have it.

395 Euro from haili.de
http://coin.haili.de/img/2007120802.jpg


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Post by: dynamike51 on February 05, 2013, 01:04:06 AM
Exactly! I always thought that's a very nice looking coin, too. Now I know what it is. Congrats again.   N31
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Post by: fwang2450 on February 05, 2013, 11:38:15 AM
Actually I must thank fwang2450 for telling me about this coin. He had this coin as his profile picture and once I heard the history from him I had to have it.

395 Euro from haili.de
http://coin.haili.de/img/2007120802.jpg

Congratulations! I have since dug out more info about that exhibition, which was the first from the PRC. A big event at that time. The picture shows the Queen of England at the exhibition, accompanied by the Chinese ambassador.

There is a bronze version of this medal, which I am still looking for. Also, when the exhibition moved to Hong Kong, a gold medal was issued to commemorate it: http://www.epama.com/Item.do?ID=22092
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Post by: fwang2450 on February 05, 2013, 11:53:33 AM
Actually I must thank fwang2450 for telling me about this coin. He had this coin as his profile picture and once I heard the history from him I had to have it.

395 Euro from haili.de
http://coin.haili.de/img/2007120802.jpg



I am not the only one to use this medal as the profile picture. Here is another:

http://blog.sina.com.cn/ruianxueshi

It is Huang Ruiyong's Sina blog, which he is not updating anymore.
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Post by: fwang2450 on February 12, 2013, 04:51:00 PM
Picked up a little gem from eBay, the 1985 Ox silver medal by Shanghai Mint. Three and a half stars on Huang's medal list. Mintage unknown, with the surviving mintage probably in the hundreds. (http://bbs.jibi.net/dispbbs.asp?boardid=12&id=240403&page=&star=16) Sales data very difficult to find. This medal is significant because of the design on the obverse, which was reused later on other Shanghai Mint medals.
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Post by: NBM on February 12, 2013, 07:47:26 PM
Good catch!
Quote
The following is a reference to the spring and King Ming speak 2012-9-3 21:00:00:
The zodiac series includes:
1985 Shanghai Mint 15 g Yi Chou Ox silver chapter;

This, it is worth noting that the 1985 Shanghai Mint 15 g乙丑Ox Silver. The chapter highly representative in currency Early Silver: 15 g specifications, plus the front of the word "blessing" pattern (after Wu Fortuna chapters used), resulting in an important position in its the early precious metals Chapter.

While circulation is I would like to ask how much?
The magnitude of the exact amount of the issue is not yet determined, but is estimated to survive in the world in hundreds of pieces. Or rarely seen on the market.
Title: How can those 1986 football matte be so different?
Post by: sasushi on February 18, 2013, 09:30:34 AM
When I bought the coin the obverse looked so polished that I was afraid it was a fake - the reverse looked normal matte...
Finally it got graded 68 matte - but how can they be so different???

Thanks for your thoughts....
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Post by: Gilmore on March 16, 2013, 11:29:43 PM
Here are a few of my recent purchases in the last couple of months that were added to my gold coin collection.

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Post by: Birdman on March 16, 2013, 11:39:02 PM
Here are a few of my recent purchases in the last couple of months that were added to my gold coin collection.



Nice additions, Gilmore!
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Post by: NBM on March 17, 2013, 01:16:55 PM
Here are a few of my recent purchases in the last couple of months that were added to my gold coin collection.

Oh my...  N23  :001_tt1:
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Post by: Gilmore on March 17, 2013, 09:00:55 PM
Thank you Birdman and NBM.

I used to belong to the 'OMP' camp before. But could no longer turn my eyes away from the investment return from high grades. I buy both these days. When looking at the three kingdoms gold coin next to the gold rat, the three kingdoms looks very 'naked' to me. But having a 69 or 70 on the NGC label has its its own kind of charm. Now I enjoy both worlds for different reasons. 
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Post by: NBM on March 17, 2013, 10:23:04 PM
As much as I like OMP I must respectfully disagree, IMO the beauty of these coins overshadow any container.
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Post by: bekiz on March 17, 2013, 10:32:20 PM
another set on its way home
(http://s19.postimage.org/m801n3k4j/2_DSC_2694.jpg)
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Post by: Gilmore on March 18, 2013, 10:47:58 PM
another set on its way home

Awesome. I love it!
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Post by: bekiz on March 18, 2013, 11:26:27 PM
Awesome. I love it!
me too ... though I have no idea what's happened to my picture
here's better one http://s19.postimage.org/thqo2x50j/3_DSC_2695.jpg
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Post by: silverstar1 on March 18, 2013, 11:39:33 PM
Nice looking coins!
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Post by: canadian on April 06, 2013, 11:00:19 AM
I picked his up the other day and would like to test my photography skills with it. Any tips on taking a good picture? Is there a good way to remove dust from OMP?
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Post by: canadian on April 14, 2013, 06:22:49 PM
This is the latest from my particular favourite, the 2001/ 2002 issues. For my eye there was never a better design, before or since. It seems likely that, because this was going to be the be all and end all design for pandas, that a lot of work went into its inception. Removing the protection ring was a very bold move, allowing the entire surface to be sculpted. The design has three distinct planes, foreground, middle ground and back ground; it also adheres to the design rule of thirds with the panda's face gazing out from exactly the right position. The panda's gaze engages the viewer in a way that is unique to this coin. The treatment of the black and white coloration is at its best. Too bad the China Mint doesn't credit its designers, it would be fun to know what other coins this designer was responsible for.
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Post by: canadian on April 14, 2013, 06:25:46 PM
Sorry here is the rest of the post.
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Post by: Panda Halves on April 14, 2013, 08:58:59 PM
Canadian,
A very well struck 1990 1/2 without obvious panda rub.
Nice coin.  Congrats!

PH
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Post by: dragondollar on April 14, 2013, 09:56:21 PM
The only Pandas I bought long time ago were the 1995, 2001 and 2003 pandas, and 2001 is also my favourite.
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Post by: Birdman on April 26, 2013, 12:20:56 PM
NGC finished grading some of my coins today.  Although I got MS67 and MS68 on several coins  :( , allow me to share a line from the grading report that caught my eye and caused a smile and a celebratory hoot.

LineItem    Year    Mint Mark    Variety/Pedigree     Denom.     Grade
001          2001D    CHINA            PANDA              G500Y       MS 70 

It is amazing how the combination of the number "7" and "0" can cause a mature adult to behave like a child  :thumbup: N47
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Post by: BobW on April 26, 2013, 12:26:05 PM
Congratulations, Birdman on your good fortune.
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Post by: canadian on April 26, 2013, 12:35:01 PM
NGC finished grading some of my coins today.  Although I got MS67 and MS68 on several coins  :( , allow me to share a line from the grading report that caught my eye and caused a smile and a celebratory hoot.

LineItem    Year    Mint Mark    Variety/Pedigree     Denom.     Grade
001          2001D    CHINA            PANDA              G500Y       MS 70 

It is amazing how the combination of the number "7" and "0" can cause a mature adult to behave like a child  :thumbup: N47

Wow! what kind of population are we talkin about?
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Post by: Vredaren on April 26, 2013, 12:36:25 PM
Congratulations on the coin! Must be a real beauty!
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Post by: comeaux on April 26, 2013, 12:56:18 PM
Wow! what kind of population are we talkin about?
Very nice coin ... population is 1 from what can see and this being the only one !  :thumbup:
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Post by: Birdman on April 26, 2013, 01:25:43 PM
Wow! what kind of population are we talkin about?

I think the NGC database is updated each Monday, so this data point isn't in it yet.  But, as of this moment at NGC, there are 56 of the 2001D G500Y graded: 29 are MS69 and 0 are MS70.  Next week, after the database is updated, it should show "1" in MS70.  PCGS has 16 graded 2001D G500Y:  11 in MS69 and 0 in MS70.  So for a brief moment, at least, it is the only one in the world.
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Post by: vkind on April 26, 2013, 01:45:18 PM
Congratulations!

I know what you mean when you see that magic number 70 on graders website. You will have to now wait for the coin to arrive....

Have a good weekend!
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Post by: Devlin on May 15, 2013, 12:02:19 PM
Not very rare but I was able to pick up a 2005 1oz Gold Panda in OMP for just $100 over spot this morning. 
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Post by: comeaux on May 15, 2013, 02:22:35 PM
Not very rare but I was able to pick up a 2005 1oz Gold Panda in OMP for just $100 over spot this morning. 

Hmmmm ... So you had a choice to either buy 1 oz Gold Eagle/Maple at about $100 over spot or this 2005 1 oz Gold Panda ?

I'd say you made the right choice ... WINNER  :thumbup:

Conrats on a good deal !
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Post by: Devlin on May 16, 2013, 11:50:45 AM
Hmmmm ... So you had a choice to either buy 1 oz Gold Eagle/Maple at about $100 over spot or this 2005 1 oz Gold Panda ?

I'd say you made the right choice ... WINNER  :thumbup:

Conrats on a good deal !

Thanks, it looks great and is resting comfortably in the safe and from what I can tell getting along with my other Pandas.  :001_smile:
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Post by: exchange on July 24, 2013, 10:37:06 PM
With the talk lately of buying coins vs medals, I just received my latest official PRC medals, price paid $750 for both.

1989 China 1/4oz gold and 1oz silver 18th New York exposition panda medals.
Mintage for the gold is 5000, the silver is 4000.

These medals are far from rare (at least right now), in fact their mintages are quite deceiving.
There are many coins and medals with mintages of 10,000 that I see much less around.

When I decided to buy these medals, I wanted to make sure that mine were going to be different than the 99.9% that are currently for sale on ebay and on several other sites. As with any coins and medals I own, they need to be complete as issued. Everyone one of them which is available for sale are graded, therefore if I ought to sell mine one day, there would be no difference aside from the price. I suspect one of the reason why these medals are "almost" all graded is because they were made for the US market and we all know Americans love their graded coins. The population left in its original format may be just a few.

Also it seems that there are quite a few fakes out there and a favorites amongst counterfeiters. That is another reason to buy the real ones. They don't fake Andy Warhols or Picasso's for nothing. You would not get into Picasso's because there were fakes. You'd just make sure you don't buy a fake which makes the real ones that much more valuable.

exchange

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Post by: davidt3251 on July 24, 2013, 11:46:42 PM
Nice acquisition Exchange! You sure set the bar high as far as standards go.

I think its going to take the yearly BU Pandas to get a bit higher into nosebleed level before the Medals take off. However, I worry that if it is true that the annual BU Pandas are being used as bribery sets, then collectors aren't the main demand driver behind price gains.

I saw this behavior firsthand in the mining business five years ago when unconomic deals were being done by Chinese firms with little due diligence. One of the Directors of a firm I am with sold a mine in Australia, that was brand new and had just been put into operation, for $900m to a Chinese state firm. Immediately the plant was mothballed. It didnt make sense. That equipment will never operate as well as when it was new, and that equipment isn't designed to survive mothballing.

Then the rumors of payoffs of executives that approved deals (such as through Hong Kong agents of the Chinese buyers), followed by perp walks that have dissuaded many Chinese Executives from doing the same kind of deals, have surfaced and been in the Chinese media last year. So that has had a negative impact on certain deal volume and pricing.

If that happens to bribery Panda's I wonder if it could affect the entire MCC market, because sellers of bribery Panda sets might be rotating gains into Medals speculating on the market moving in that direction. I sure am.

But what if this is a market that isnt being driven by traditional economics. When 2002 and 2006 1/10 Pandas are more than 5x bullion, yet other rarer MCCs are 2x bullion, its a sign of an immature market. This market would be much healthier if we heard that Panda price gains were being driven by, for example, new and growing MCC clubs out of China, flush with members spending business profits, looking for good investments. Perhaps we will transition there.

In the meantime, there is nothing quite as fun as enjoying our purchases.
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Post by: Straitssettlementshop on July 25, 2013, 12:19:18 AM
Just like to share my latest acquisition of 2 X 5oz. gold medals in OMP.

1)1989 Goddess of Mercy mintage 300pcs

2)1989 God of Fortune mintage 300pcs


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Post by: fwang2450 on July 25, 2013, 12:58:36 AM
Just like to share my latest acquisition of 2 X 5oz. gold medals in OMP.

1)1989 Goddess of Mercy mintage 300pcs

2)1989 God of Fortune mintage 300pcs



Congratulations! These are eye openers.
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Post by: Hippanda on July 25, 2013, 01:07:31 AM
Very nice.  N31
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Post by: Birdman on July 25, 2013, 01:26:16 PM
With the talk lately of buying coins vs medals, I just received my latest official PRC medals, price paid $750 for both.

1989 China 1/4oz gold and 1oz silver 18th New York exposition panda medals.
Mintage for the gold is 5000, the silver is 4000.

These medals are far from rare (at least right now), in fact their mintages are quite deceiving.
There are many coins and medals with mintages of 10,000 that I see much less around.

When I decided to buy these medals, I wanted to make sure that mine were going to be different than the 99.9% that are currently for sale on ebay and on several other sites. As with any coins and medals I own, they need to be complete as issued. Everyone one of them which is available for sale are graded, therefore if I ought to sell mine one day, there would be no difference aside from the price. I suspect one of the reason why these medals are "almost" all graded is because they were made for the US market and we all know Americans love their graded coins. The population left in its original format may be just a few.

Also it seems that there are quite a few fakes out there and a favorites amongst counterfeiters. That is another reason to buy the real ones. They don't fake Andy Warhols or Picasso's for nothing. You would not get into Picasso's because there were fakes. You'd just make sure you don't buy a fake which makes the real ones that much more valuable.

exchange



I purchased the same OMP 1989 NY panda coins several months ago.  In looking at your photos, however, I notice that your OMP box packaging looks different from mine.  Each of your coins came in a separate box with different patterns.  Mine came together in one box. 

I am assuming that they were sold both ways originally (as a set or individually)?  Or is one of our set repackaged using non-original boxes?  Or could one be a counterfeit?
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Post by: exchange on July 25, 2013, 01:34:51 PM
I purchased the same OMP 1989 NY panda coins several months ago.  In looking at your photos, however, I notice that your OMP box packaging looks different from mine.  Each of your coins came in a separate box with different patterns.  Mine came together in one box.  

I am assuming that they were sold both ways originally (as a set or individually)?  Or is one of our set repackaged using non-original boxes?  Or could one be a counterfeit?


It is very well possible. In fact I am pretty sure they were issued both ways. It seems to have been quite common. Several other sets that I know of that came together with both gold and silver were also issued separately. An example is the 1993 Soong Ching Ling set in where the silver coin by itself was also issued on its own with its own box.
Also the 1981 70th anniversary Revolution, the silver coin alone was issued on its own with its own box.

exchange
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Post by: pandamonium on July 25, 2013, 05:17:44 PM
Exchange check out ebay # 171077841798  1979 Bejing Scenery set w/ your painted box.  First one I have seen for sale............
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Post by: exchange on July 25, 2013, 06:05:02 PM
Exchange check out ebay # 171077841798  1979 Bejing Scenery set w/ your painted box.  First one I have seen for sale............

Thanks Pandamonium, its not the same box. Our friend and forum member straitssettlementshop has it for sale.
Although I think mine is prettier!  :001_smile:

By the way straitssettlementshop, you have some incredible medals!


exchange.
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Post by: Hippanda on July 25, 2013, 07:05:00 PM
Exchange your Box Rox !!  N42  N66

A small number of varieties of these beautiful designs exist.  If anyone sees Exchange's type box (his avatar) please let me know-
I want !
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Post by: exchange on July 30, 2013, 06:15:44 PM
1998 Commemorative Silver Coin Set. Jointly issued by China & Canada, 60th Anniversary of the arrival of Dr. Norman Bethune in China.

We are all familiar with ebay bucks, I needed to use them before they expired and picked up this set at a final pocket coast of $15, (after ebay bucks).
I have always had an eye for this set but never really took the time to educate myself on who Dr. Bethune was. Also I was not comfortable paying ~ $200 for a set with a mintage of 80,000.

Also the fabric box is quite beautiful. My wife is insisting to use it as a jewelry box! Many high end brand names sell mass produced jewelry boxes priced at hundreds of dollars and into thousands of dollars and none of them look as pretty as this case. Go figure...

(quick overview of Dr. Bethune)
In January 1938 Bethune travelled to Yan'an in the Shanbei region of Shaanxi province in China. There he joined the Chinese Communists led by Mao Zedong in their struggle against the Japanese invaders. In China, Bethune performed emergency battlefield surgical operations on war casualties and established training for doctors, nurses and orderlies. He did not distinguish between casualties.
In the summer of 1939 Bethune was appointed the Medical Advisor to the Jin-Cha-Ji (Shanxi-Chahar-Hebei) Border Region Military District, under the direction of General Nie Rongzhen. Stationed with the Communist Party of China's Eighth Route Army in the midst of the Second Sino-Japanese War, Bethune cut his finger while operating on a soldier. Probably due to his weakened state, he contracted septicaemia (blood poisoning) and died of his wounds on November 12, 1939


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Bethune


exchange
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Post by: Hippanda on July 30, 2013, 07:16:16 PM
Nice.   N31
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Post by: pandamonium on July 30, 2013, 09:57:31 PM
Great set and box.  Interesting comments on Dr. Bethune........
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Post by: r3globe on July 31, 2013, 12:22:27 AM
Thank you for sharing! Given the frequency I see this set available, I would venture to say that the actual mintage is less than 80K.
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Post by: mazinger7000 on September 05, 2013, 05:10:29 PM
i have a question about a coin i just got from xuhong through ebay. notice the weird looking "wet" spot above the coin. it's inside the holder. does anyone know what this is? it appears to be moisture, so does that mean the case is cracked? should i return it? thanks for any knowledge you may have on this-
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Post by: vkind on September 07, 2013, 11:48:33 PM

I think its slab defect. I got a 5oz coin graded from NGC. When I got the slab right out of the box had similar mark in one of the corner.  I did not bother much to follow up as I know it came from NGC.

If you have concern, send it for appearance review to NGC (no charge for review. however u will spend money for to and fro shopping). You can ask them to change the slab. As you know NGC has guarantee for what they grade.

My 2 cents!
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Post by: Vredaren on September 19, 2013, 03:58:52 PM
This is my most recent pickup and my first gold commemorative coin, I know the sino-japanese coins might not be the most popular ones but I think this one has an amazing design.
Images from NGC:

(http://i.imgur.com/I8cFU1c.jpg?1)(http://i.imgur.com/TXSnffX.jpg?1)
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Post by: Devlin on September 23, 2013, 07:16:52 PM
The pictures are not that great but I picked these up this week. 

2013 five ounce Worlds Fair of Money

1988 five ounce panda

1987 Long Beach five ounce panda

1988 Munich coin fair five ounce panda.

The two 88's and 87 came from a local shop

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/20130923_185634_zps466c13b8.jpg)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/20130923_190057_zps5cdc88fd.jpg)
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Post by: trozau on September 23, 2013, 07:31:56 PM
^ Nice pick up, guys! Love the Tong Tong gold and those massive 5 troz silver Pandas.  N31
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Post by: jc888888888 on September 23, 2013, 09:12:58 PM
i have a question about a coin i just got from xuhong through ebay. notice the weird looking "wet" spot above the coin. it's inside the holder. does anyone know what this is? it appears to be moisture, so does that mean the case is cracked? should i return it? thanks for any knowledge you may have on this-
Hmmmmmmmmmmm ,I just got a 1982 1/10th ms69 gold panda back from Ngc/Ncs the same way(2 much smaller spots) very recently ,so I dont think it is moisture .possibly something in the silicone like holder ?????? I sent it right back to be re holdered.
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Post by: wutianming on September 23, 2013, 10:37:10 PM
I doubt it is much other than the gasket directly touching the plastic of the slab.
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Post by: comeaux on September 23, 2013, 11:53:22 PM
I doubt it is much other than the gasket directly touching the plastic of the slab.

That's exactly what it is ... I've seen this a few times as well. 
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Post by: jc888888888 on September 24, 2013, 06:28:07 AM
That's exactly what it is ... I've seen this a few times as well. 
That makes a lot of sense :)  why didnt I think of that:)
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Post by: cu29640 on October 16, 2013, 04:55:11 AM
As new as it gets.
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Post by: jc888888888 on October 16, 2013, 07:29:12 AM
very nice!
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Post by: Silverfox111 on October 23, 2013, 09:02:23 AM
Very nice detail on the newer coins.

Regards
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Post by: Birdman on October 30, 2013, 05:31:03 PM
It has been a while since I've posted something on this thread.  I rarely get a package in the mail like the one I did today, so I thought I'd share a snapshot.  The collector in me is  N66  If I had an accountant, he would be  :scared:   It will probably be a while since I post again, since I'll need time to make some more money.  But it is all good  N38
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Post by: 1668Chris on October 30, 2013, 06:44:20 PM
Nice!!! The 1995 set is rarely seen for sale.   N31

The 1/2 ounce is very hard to come by in 69 grade.
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Post by: vkind on October 30, 2013, 08:09:52 PM
Congrats! Very nice and rare set!  N34
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Post by: Vredaren on October 31, 2013, 04:51:35 PM
A beautiful set, congrats!
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Post by: exchange on December 11, 2013, 08:53:05 AM
It's been a while since I last purchased MCC. I have always had a eye for the 1979 year of the child half ounce gold coin, but its price always kept me away from it and maybe that was a good thing. I just purchased the coin in its entirety!  :001_smile: The entire UNICEF year of the child set for $50 over spot from a private owner who originally purchased the set himself in the early 1980's. If any of those countries from that set have the slightest increase in demand for gold coins, these I believe will be the first coins to jump. I'm not sure if that was the case for the Chinese year of the child but the theme is quite appealing. Any scratches, lines, etc... you see is from the plastic holder. The coins are perfect.

exchange
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Post by: mook on December 11, 2013, 09:13:18 AM
Very nice purchase, congratulations Exchange N31
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Post by: wg on December 11, 2013, 09:54:49 AM

panda 2014

ebay com

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=2014+panda&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=11116&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=200&_fpos=&_fsct=&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_sop=12&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&LH_Complete=1

the germans buy colour :lol:

ebay de

http://www.ebay.de/sch/China-/40712/i.html?_from=R40&_catref=1&_nkw=2014+panda&_in_kw=1&_ex_kw=&_sacat=40712&_okw=&_oexkw=&_adv=1&LH_Sold=1&_udlo=&_udhi=&_samilow=&_samihi=&_sadis=200&_fpos=&LH_SALE_CURRENCY=0&_sop=10&_dmd=1&_ipg=50&LH_Complete=1

shanghai mint :thumbup:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/2014-China-2x10-Yuan-Panda-Night-Day-2oz-Silber-CoA-Box-NUR-2-500-Sets-/190999556945?pt=M%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen&hash=item2c7875f351





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Post by: wg on December 11, 2013, 10:05:29 AM
aftermarket

2500 oz + 5000 oz

circulations:      only 5000 coins Worldwide in Gilded Color Variant1 and Color Variant 2

http://www.ebay.de/itm/3-1oz-China-Panda-2014-with-Gilded-Color-Variant1-Color-Variant2-Silber-Silver-/111230890158?pt=M%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen&hash=item19e5e0b0ae&nma=true&si=n%252FNIOWwQ%252BvU%252BUGTqxeCD8HttFYE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

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Post by: r3globe on December 11, 2013, 10:44:20 AM
Exchange! Brilliant purchase at this time. Congratulations :)
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Post by: wg on December 11, 2013, 11:37:11 AM
aftermarket

2500 oz + 5000 oz

circulations:      only 5000 coins Worldwide in Gilded Color Variant1 and Color Variant 2

http://www.ebay.de/itm/3-1oz-China-Panda-2014-with-Gilded-Color-Variant1-Color-Variant2-Silber-Silver-/111230890158?pt=M%C3%BCnzen_Medaillen&hash=item19e5e0b0ae&nma=true&si=n%252FNIOWwQ%252BvU%252BUGTqxeCD8HttFYE%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557



sorry
5000 oz + 15 000 oz
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Post by: exchange on December 11, 2013, 11:43:06 AM
Thank you, if gold hadn't gone down throughout the entire year, this set would of definately not have been available for sale, just like many other non CMC coins I have purchased this year.

I did a little research and from what I was able to find, the original cost for the 1979 Chinese coin was $875, and to think 35 years later it is really not that much more. The coins from this set had an issue price of at least $570 and higher.

exchange
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Post by: fwang2450 on December 11, 2013, 12:25:16 PM
Thank you, if gold hadn't gone down throughout the entire year, this set would of definately not have been available for sale, just like many other non CMC coins I have purchased this year.

I did a little research and from what I was able to find, the original cost for the 1979 Chinese coin was $875, and to think 35 years later it is really not that much more. The coins from this set had an issue price of at least $570 and higher.

exchange
It is a very nice set with a lot of potential!
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Post by: fwang2450 on December 11, 2013, 12:27:07 PM
Here comes mine :)
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Post by: GDG's on December 11, 2013, 01:03:48 PM
Here comes mine :)

Not familiar with this medal. What is it?
Thanks
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Post by: SANDAC on December 11, 2013, 01:48:43 PM
Here comes mine :)

It is so much better than the ebay pictures suggested!  I don't think you'll be able to buy it so cheaply if the buyer has posted better pictures.  

GoldenDragonGirls, refer to this thread and the subsequent discussion: http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=2618.msg56634#msg56634
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Post by: fwang2450 on December 11, 2013, 01:59:17 PM
It is so much better than the ebay pictures suggested!  I don't think you'll be able to buy it so cheaply if the buyer has posted better pictures. 

GoldenDragonGirls, refer to this thread and the subsequent discussion: http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=2618.msg56634#msg56634
It went through an olive oil bath, which removed almost all of the finger prints.
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Post by: wg on December 11, 2013, 02:55:15 PM
Here comes mine :)


 N66 ;)

best regards
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Post by: dragonfan on December 11, 2013, 05:55:49 PM
Thank you, if gold hadn't gone down throughout the entire year, this set would of definately not have been available for sale, just like many other non CMC coins I have purchased this year.

I did a little research and from what I was able to find, the original cost for the 1979 Chinese coin was $875, and to think 35 years later it is really not that much more. The coins from this set had an issue price of at least $570 and higher.

exchange
Congratulations, very nice set! The Chinese coins's symbolic is strong . . care and growth.
Good luck.
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Post by: poconopenn on December 11, 2013, 11:58:03 PM
It went through an olive oil bath, which removed almost all of the finger prints.

Excellent conservation job. Just want to know if you wash the coin with acetone after the olive oil bath. The olive oil is slightly acidity (1.5% fatty acid) and is an excellent solvent in removing fingerprint and toned surface for Cu-Ni coin. Extra step with acetone can remove  residue of olive oil from the coin surface. I have used this method to conserve my Indian cents in the past with an excellent result.
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Post by: aragog on December 12, 2013, 03:43:03 AM
It went through an olive oil bath, which removed almost all of the finger prints.
It was obvious that it does not have any scratches, so I expected that it would look like that after cleaning. Amazing!
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Post by: pandamonium on December 12, 2013, 09:05:38 AM
Are silver coins OK w/ a olive oil bath?..........
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Post by: fwang2450 on December 12, 2013, 09:51:28 AM
Excellent conservation job. Just want to know if you wash the coin with acetone after the olive oil bath. The olive oil is slightly acidity (1.5% fatty acid) and is an excellent solvent in removing fingerprint and toned surface for Cu-Ni coin. Extra step with acetone can remove  residue of olive oil from the coin surface. I have used this method to conserve my Indian cents in the past with an excellent result.
I used MS70 after the olive oil bath. Was not sure whether acetone could be used on cuni coins, as there are reports that acetone with copper coins in bright light may cause change of color. So you had no problem with acetone on Indian cents?
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Post by: fwang2450 on December 12, 2013, 09:53:34 AM
Are silver coins OK w/ a olive oil bath?..........
Yes for removing fresh finger prints. Aged finger prints tend to eat into the metal, which could not be removed by olive oil. Olive oil cannot do anything about ugly toning either. Here are some pictures of the Palace Museum medal before and after an olive oil bath.
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Post by: AllSong on January 21, 2014, 08:57:22 AM
I have purchased one of these "Shanghai Ghetto Panda Medals" and really find it beautyfull (I know my pic sucks)... and like the fact the coin has its own number, kind of like paper notes. So here is mine anyway  :biggrin:

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Post by: mowi on January 31, 2014, 07:50:37 AM
My best buy so far - the 2001d. It was the last 1oz silver Panda I needed to complete my OMP collection from 1989-2014.
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Post by: Birdman on January 31, 2014, 08:42:01 AM
My best buy so far - the 2001d. It was the last 1oz silver Panda I needed to complete my OMP collection from 1989-2014.

Congratulations on completing the date run.
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Post by: mowi on January 31, 2014, 09:22:01 AM
Congratulations on completing the date run.

Thanks Birdman, Now if some of them grade well - its gonna be a good start for my registry set. :)
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Post by: AllSong on February 20, 2014, 07:38:55 AM
I just got my first OMP (hopefully not rewrapped) Pandas. 1989, 1990 (LD as far as I can see) & 1992 (SD).
(http://)
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Post by: jc888888888 on February 20, 2014, 07:47:50 PM
My best buy so far - the 2001d. It was the last 1oz silver Panda I needed to complete my OMP collection from 1989-2014.

congrats on the date run Mowi ,it is a nice accomplishment!
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Post by: mowi on February 20, 2014, 10:54:16 PM
congrats on the date run Mowi ,it is a nice accomplishment!

Thanks, it's been great fun!
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Post by: AllSong on February 22, 2014, 05:35:03 AM
My newest Panda, Year of tourism/Visit china '97, double sealed. Fingers crossed it´s genuine  :001_rolleyes:
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Post by: jc888888888 on February 22, 2014, 06:20:15 AM
it looks genuine to me ,congrats ! nice coin
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Post by: AllSong on February 22, 2014, 10:16:57 AM
Thanks JC. That calms me a lot. I have compared to PCGS' pic an it has all the details as far as I can see--- but I am more assured when you say so  N30
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Post by: jc888888888 on February 22, 2014, 10:26:58 AM
Thanks JC. That calms me a lot. I have compared to PCGS' pic an it has all the details as far as I can see--- but I am more assured when you say so  N30
no problem it is a pretty nice one too:)  temple side @ 2 oclock are those spots on the omp?  ,if so you have nice coin this is very tough coin to grade I have graded at least 20 of them and yours is nice, many are plagued with haze in the field's not unlike the regular 97 panda ,so grading ms 69 is a challenge your coin has a decent chance if it is spot free  again congrats!
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Post by: AllSong on February 22, 2014, 10:36:20 AM
WOW, that sounds great  N29 I really have no experience at sending coins for grading, but I guess it is inevitable for me to do it sooner or later.
Thanks again JC, it´s much appreciated!
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Post by: jc888888888 on February 22, 2014, 10:39:20 AM
I have extra boxes and coa,s for your coin :)  you postage i will give you one : :tongue_smilie:(http://)IMG_0528.JPG
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Post by: jc888888888 on February 22, 2014, 10:41:41 AM
(http://)
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Post by: AllSong on February 23, 2014, 04:00:53 AM
looking very great

Thanks and welcome to the forum by the way :001_smile:
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Post by: AllSong on February 24, 2014, 11:08:46 AM
I had the "Hong Kong return to China" from 1997, but found it in Proof (PR69)not long ago. I love the design of this coin, with fireworks over the waterfront  N46

(http://)
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Post by: SANDAC on February 24, 2014, 01:57:38 PM
I hope you did not paid the proof price for it because it is a BU coin!  PCGS made a mistake here, it should be MS69 rather than PR69.  The easiest way to identify BU from proof is the rectangular letters "BU" on the obverse left edge 9 o'clock next to the word "FOUNDING"
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Post by: AllSong on February 25, 2014, 01:07:46 PM
I am glad to have shared my pics. Now, it has given me something in return. Thanks for the info SANDAC.
You can call me stupid from now on  N24  N17
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Post by: SANDAC on February 25, 2014, 01:33:43 PM
I wouldn't dare call you that considering how many similar mistakes I've made.  We are not alone, PCGS and NGC made plenty such mistakes, again and again.  There are even sellers on eBay selling such mislabeled slabs at a premium!
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Post by: AllSong on February 28, 2014, 02:50:58 PM
Glad to hear that is is a path that seems to be taken by many. I send a notice to the seller about this. I have bought 9 coins in total from this (PCGS authorized seller) and have had one other coin from this seller that had an issue, a milk spot mentioned here http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=9886.15 (http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=9886.15)
and I really want to share the warm answer:

Quote
"Hi You have received a PR69 DCAM as designated by PCGS which is what you have received. If they are saying the coin is a PR69 DCAM this is what it is sold as and what you bid on. If you are now saying you do not want the coin please send the coin back and we will refund the price of the item as near enough every coin you have purchased from us you seem to have an issue with and think its better for both of us to send the coin back and refrain from bidding for the future as we do not grade the coins PCGS does and think you should take these issues up with them as we are honest sellers and go based on PCGS designations and if they make a mistake or feel a coin is worthy of a PR designation then we accept what they do as they are the professional Grading company not you or us. With best wishes The London Coin Company"

I am speechless
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Post by: NBM on February 28, 2014, 03:41:54 PM
The London Coin Company has IMO, overly high premiums to begin with.
Why pay more for defective and mislabeled coins?
They have done you a favor by burning the bridge, thank them for this lesson & move on in your quest for an honest source.
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Post by: GDG's on February 28, 2014, 03:52:55 PM
The London Coin Company has IMO, overly high premiums to begin with.
Why pay more for defective and mislabeled coins?
They have done you a favor by burning the bridge, thank them for this lesson & move on in your quest for an honest source.
 N31 N34 :thumbup:
+1
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Post by: AllSong on March 09, 2014, 04:14:33 AM
The London Coin Company has IMO, overly high premiums to begin with.
Why pay more for defective and mislabeled coins?
They have done you a favor by burning the bridge, thank them for this lesson & move on in your quest for an honest source.
Great advice. You're completely right. Unfortunately not that many sellers with MCCs in Europe.

I have extra boxes and coa,s for your coin :)  you postage i will give you one : :tongue_smilie:
Good Karma to you JC. Thanks for giving me the box for free!
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Post by: jc888888888 on March 09, 2014, 08:18:19 AM
Great advice. You're completely right. Unfortunately not that many sellers with MCCs in Europe.
Good Karma to you JC. Thanks for giving me the box for free!
My pleasure Allsong enjoy.....................
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Post by: Canadiancoinguy on March 10, 2014, 10:09:39 PM
Here's a few that I have picked up....
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Post by: jc888888888 on March 11, 2014, 06:07:02 AM
nice photo's and nice coins too:)
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Post by: Canadiancoinguy on March 11, 2014, 06:44:06 AM
Thanks jc888888, the photos are pretty good. At home I have a makeshift lightbox I use to diffuse the light, but here I just had to improvise. I will say one thing though, my new Note 3 takes great pictures.

The coins are gorgeous. The Bronze ware silver almost looks like a 3D relief .
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Post by: Canadiancoinguy on March 11, 2014, 10:23:41 AM
Another one to add.....and an example of what my photography from home looks like.
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Post by: AllSong on March 22, 2014, 02:48:25 PM
Finally got myself a Unicorn, so I feel like sharing.
(http://)
Hopefully not yet a lesson for me to be tought  :blushing: I feel like it´s been up the hill lately  :001_smile:
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Post by: jc888888888 on March 22, 2014, 09:47:04 PM
very nice coin!
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Post by: AllSong on April 15, 2014, 04:44:57 AM
Thanks JC888888888. I might submit it someday, after I figure out who to go to with my coins & medals  :confused1:
Here are some already graded newly received coins:

(http://) 
Title: 2014 ICBC Bank 50g Silver medal
Post by: dkhalsa on April 15, 2014, 03:18:00 PM
Has anyone come across these medals. Given by an employee of the ICBC Bank of China. He is a metal trader. This is the only photos forwarded to me. Can't find anything online. Seems like an internal bank run. Anyone seen or know of? Also mintage and value.
Thanks in Advance
W
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Post by: SANDAC on April 20, 2014, 01:38:31 AM
My latest submission to NGC has returned.  No 70 but 9x 69 and 1x 68.  Among them is this set of 1994 famous buddhist mountains.  The COA stated that 5000 set were minted but in reality they are rather elusive.  NGC population of the set was zero in the beginning of 2013, jumped to 3 in April 2013 then grow very slowly to 8 in April 2014 (mine was the 8th set).  Can the medal collectors of CCF shed some light on the scarcity of this set?
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Post by: mook on June 22, 2014, 04:04:41 AM
I was very lucky when a final purchase, Panda 1984 1/2 oz gold is the variety "broken leg"
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Post by: Pandapaule on June 22, 2014, 10:08:09 AM
I am very happy.
Does anyone have any info on Population.?
Certainly less than 20 000th

(http://www.silber.de/forum/userpix/2225_5_yuan_unep_3.jpg)
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Post by: fwang2450 on June 22, 2014, 11:38:20 AM
I am very happy.
Does anyone have any info on Population.?
Certainly less than 20 000th

(http://www.silber.de/forum/userpix/2225_5_yuan_unep_3.jpg)
Nice coin. One of the official catalogs says the mintage is 2000.
(http://s16.sinaimg.cn/middle/609ac53dx906bbcc5bc7f&690)
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Post by: fwang2450 on June 22, 2014, 01:54:38 PM
Nice coin. One of the official catalogs says the mintage is 2000.

Here is the pic again.
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Post by: Pandapaule on June 22, 2014, 02:01:45 PM
Perfect.
Thank's  ;-)
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Post by: SANDAC on June 22, 2014, 03:35:26 PM
I was very lucky when a final purchase, Panda 1984 1/2 oz gold is the variety "broken leg"

Wow!! Very hard to find!!

 :w00t: :001_tt1: :drool:
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Post by: SANDAC on June 22, 2014, 04:23:44 PM
I am very happy.
Does anyone have any info on Population.?
Certainly less than 20 000th
Researchers like RAREMEDAL and Huang Ruiyong had said there are two versions of the water patterns for the 1992 UNEP but I find there are at least four patterns as shown below.  
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Post by: PhiPir on June 22, 2014, 09:36:25 PM
Anyone familiar with these?
They are listed a .999 ag 1 oz but does anyone know if they are genuine?
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Post by: PandaOrLunar on June 22, 2014, 09:58:08 PM
They are plated alloy; not solid silver.
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Post by: Pandaguy on June 22, 2014, 11:27:13 PM
They are all 100% FAKE. GUARANTEED!!! Yes, they are plated and there is no denomination; so no jailtime for the producer! These sets have been floating around for several years. Nice to give to your kid to possibly spike an interest in collecting MCC.
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Post by: Contrapunctus on June 24, 2014, 07:53:30 AM
They are all 100% FAKE. GUARANTEED!!! Yes, they are plated and there is no denomination; so no jailtime for the producer! These sets have been floating around for several years. Nice to give to your kid to possibly spike an interest in collecting MCC.

I saw this set before at a flea market, selling for around US$100 per set. But my gut feeling tells me silver content alone is way above US$100.
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Post by: Devlin on June 24, 2014, 05:26:54 PM
Just picked up this 1988 New Orleans medal,  hoping those copper spots will come off.   At $1383 from a local jewelry shop I don't think I could go wrong, unless it's fake.

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/1988NewOrleansgold1_zpsb52c6dcb.jpg)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/1988NewOrleansgold2_zpsdcbdc34f.jpg)

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Post by: trozau on June 24, 2014, 06:07:59 PM
Just picked up this 1988 New Orleans medal,  hoping those copper spots will come off.   At $1383 from a local jewelry shop I don't think I could go wrong, unless it's fake.
Nice snag! Congrats!  N25
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Post by: NBM on June 25, 2014, 01:34:17 AM
Just picked up this 1988 New Orleans medal,  hoping those copper spots will come off.   At $1383 from a local jewelry shop I don't think I could go wrong, unless it's fake.

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/1988NewOrleansgold1_zpsb52c6dcb.jpg)

It seems to have to a spot on it's head the same as this one:

http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/index.aspx?CertNumber=3540449-001

Is this common for this coin?
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Post by: Devlin on June 25, 2014, 06:32:37 AM
Two other examples that I have found on line have the same issue. 
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Post by: trozau on June 25, 2014, 08:17:27 AM
High-point rub against the hard capsule. A majority, I would WAG. 
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Post by: Pandapaule on June 30, 2014, 11:41:07 AM
small but my  N31

(http://www.silber.de/forum/userpix/2225_sino_1987_1.jpg)
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Post by: jwa1inv on July 04, 2014, 04:45:45 PM
Nice "no spots" 1987 Japan Sino friendship Gold medal there.

I hope Devlin's New Orleans Medal cleans up in conservation.
I would bet it does.
If many examples of that medal have the rub perhaps
that gets discounted and it may grade well anyway.

Here is  a Building the Great Wall 3 Yuan silver before conservation and
grading by NCS/NGC.
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Post by: PearlRiverCoins on July 09, 2014, 05:14:43 AM
 :thumbup: 15gr PF70 very hard to find , everytimes its show up in auctions is big fight to get it.
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Post by: jwa1inv on July 22, 2014, 08:33:20 PM
Here are today's arrivals to my Kublai Khan Army. I was delighted to see they
are of two different types. The one on the left has a glossier Kublai Khan body
and the edges of the devices are as water at the edge of a glass, blending into
the mirror field. I believe that one is a possible restrike. The Kublai on the right
is frostier, or flatter, with the devices coming right out of the mirror field sharply.
They are both headed to Sarasota for conservation and grading.
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Post by: SANDAC on July 22, 2014, 11:55:01 PM
Many, if not most, of the historical figures have varying shades of mirrored to frosted finish.  They are hard to distinguish unless you put them side-by-side or photograph them with the same setup like you did.  My recent submission, 2628369-001 & -002 have similar mirrored and frosted characteristics you described.

You maybe interested in the discussions about frosting variations of Kublai Khan:  there are two distinct frosting variations as described here:  http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=3043.0 and there are gradual shades of frosting progressiong with respect to the spears as describe here: http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=4585.msg26205#msg26205

PS, do you have information regarding the restrike of Kublai Khan?  I did a translation of restrike here: http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=18.msg15153#msg15153 and have looked specifically for the restrike of Kublai Khan but I wasn't able to locate such information to this date.  As you probably know that the graded population of Kublai Khan is significantly higher than the other three coins of the 1989 Historical Figures so it is reasonable to think there are restrikes.
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Post by: NBM on July 23, 2014, 01:46:14 AM
Isn't there a double die Kublai Khan also?
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Post by: jwa1inv on July 23, 2014, 06:22:21 PM
It seems strange that the double die would effect the 1 only.
If proofs are all double struck it would take a little misalignment between strikes for it to be noticeable.
That double struck 1 does have something different going on.
I have included here a side-by-side of the Kublai Khan reverses, mirror on the left, frosty on the right.
The 1 on the mirror one is thicker than the frosty one on this pair.
The Chinese National Emblem has the liquid edges to the field in the mirror one, but not as
pronounced as on the Kublai Khan side of that one.
It is these liquid edges rather than sharp that makes me wonder if it is restrike.
The die edges to the fields should wear quicker in the frosted ones than the mirror ones,
due to sharpness and metal flow. As a Die Maker, I would compare it to sheet metal draw die wear.
Rounded, polished edges to the field would hold up better and the look is not bad, either.
The polished edges of the mirror might be the result of maintenance polishing, or overhaul
of the field/device edges to a more robust design.
I wish that I had more information on the possibility of Kublai Khan restrikes.
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Post by: SANDAC on July 24, 2014, 12:28:11 AM
The polished edges of the mirror might be the result of maintenance polishing, or overhaul
of the field/device edges to a more robust design.
That's an interesting observation.  I've seen such rounded edge effect at the boundary of device and field in other historical figures, but I have not thought of your explaination.  I do have a question:

I believe it was mentioned somewhere in CCF that the heavily frosted effect was from reworked die, that coins strucked with a new die have more glossy effect.  However, to muddy the water somewhat, a frosty die would wear out after a while and start to produce more glossy coins.  I've also read that radial stress lines become more pronounced as more coins are struck and can be used to gauge die state of a coin.  So my question is how the stress lines of your mirror one compares with that of the frosty one?  Is it possible the rounded edges of the smooth one are the result of die wear from what was initially a frosty die?
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Post by: jwa1inv on July 24, 2014, 10:01:37 PM
Frosty ones should wear quicker, especially with sharper edges to the devices.
Smooth ones with rounded edge boundaries should show wear more slowly.
Frost acts to grab and prevent metal flow, as would sharper edges. Once wear
happens, the stress lines come whether glossy or frosty because wear is often
an uneven galling or gouging of the die surfaces which experience metal flow.
Die polishing should relieve stress lines. The rounded edges of the smooth one
may well result from a frosty die that wore and was polished to remove the wear.
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Post by: poconopenn on July 24, 2014, 11:34:22 PM
I have included here a side-by-side of the Kublai Khan reverses, mirror on the left, frosty on the right.
The 1 on the mirror one is thicker than the frosty one on this pair.


Based on your picture, mirror should be on the right and frosty on the left. Do we have the same definition of mirror and frosty ?
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Post by: jwa1inv on July 24, 2014, 11:50:53 PM
The ones with liquid rounded edges are on the left and the sharply rising devices are
on the right. My mirror Kublai Khan (left) is only mirror-y on the head and body,
the rest of that side is still frosty. The one on the right is all frosty as far as I can tell.
Mirror might be more of an in-betweener on the Obverse. Both Chinese National
emblems actually look frosty. I consider frosty like flat paint, mirror like gloss paint.
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Post by: NBM on August 01, 2014, 05:43:48 PM
 :(
mbcoincorner on eBay, nondisclosure of obvious white spot.

(http://oi59.tinypic.com/20aanq0.jpg)
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Post by: jc888888888 on August 01, 2014, 09:47:38 PM
the spot you highlight  looks to me it has a high probability of being remove more of a toning shadow rather than the dreaded white spot   ........
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: NBM on August 02, 2014, 04:36:21 AM
Thank you Joe, I'm not familiar with this... toning can be white?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on August 02, 2014, 07:04:57 AM
that particular spot looks to be to be up on the surface. the pictures are not high res ,but when you look at white spot it appears that it is more buried under the surface of the medal ................
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: NBM on August 02, 2014, 03:02:39 PM
You are likely correct that it is removable.
Sadly, the lack of disclosure in the sale and the loss of trust is not.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: goldpig on August 03, 2014, 03:13:25 AM
This is an interesting topic. I have a few mmc in OMP with shadow toning near the date and denomination. If at some point in the future I decide to have these coins graded would the shadow toning lower my grade?  
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Vredaren on August 25, 2014, 02:45:31 AM
My latest one of note is the 1985 Tibet Autonomy 20th Anniversary Proof set. The silver coin is in fantastic condition the cu/ni has some toning but otherwise as good as the silver coin. Came with what I think is the original box (see video) and two CoAs which surprised me (since they have sequential but two different numbers), most other sets with CoA I've seen have either one CoA for the entire set or all coins have the same Cert #.

Video below for those who can/want to view it:
http://youtu.be/UPEbNzKjt6U

Image for the rest of you :)
(http://i.imgur.com/XvHRMdAl.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on August 25, 2014, 06:19:20 AM
very nice!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Artcoins on August 29, 2014, 04:44:30 AM
Hello. My new coins in the collection
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on August 29, 2014, 08:05:09 AM
Hello. My new coins in the collection

Welcome to the forum.  Thank you for sharing the photos.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: geoxxx on August 29, 2014, 12:32:03 PM
Hello. My new coins in the collection

Very nice
The 2001 is my all time favourite  both small & large D
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: koc on August 29, 2014, 04:27:21 PM
hi

im new here
very nice coins  N66
best wishes



Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jwa1inv on September 03, 2014, 08:26:34 PM
One of the Traditional Culture series coins which does not show up very often.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on September 03, 2014, 09:10:13 PM
I try to act calm and nonchalant like I'm an experienced collector or investor, but it doesn't seem to work.  I still get a excited about this little pop 1 that is coming in the mail.  Yes, pop 1's can turn into pop 2 and pop 3 etc.   It has happened to me before.  But I'll just enjoy the moment for now  N67
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Mak007 on September 03, 2014, 10:44:26 PM
Very nice coins!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: geoxxx on September 03, 2014, 11:28:45 PM
I try to act calm and nonchalant like I'm an experienced collector or investor, but it doesn't seem to work.  I still get a excited about this little pop 1 that is coming in the mail.  Yes, pop 1's can turn into pop 2 and pop 3 etc.   It has happened to me before.  But I'll just enjoy the moment for now  N67

We all love that pop 1 feeling....congrats
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jwa1inv on September 03, 2014, 11:34:14 PM
That 1990 proof may hold its lonely position for a while.
Especially with that many already graded, and many held in OMP sets.
The only 1990 gold panda proof set I bought/returned arrived
with the coins floating around out of capsule in the original
box--no 70s there, nor any further set purchases from Apmex.

Gold 1/10th Pandas are very attractive for collection.
5,000 mintage, right? Proof strike, too!
The only 70 is a great reason to be excited!

Congratulations!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Vredaren on September 04, 2014, 01:17:52 AM
Huge congratulations on the 70! Of course you should enjoy the moment, and getting giddy about the 70 is just a great indication that you still enjoy what you do! :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on September 04, 2014, 06:08:19 AM
Very cool pop 1 enjoy!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mowi on September 04, 2014, 08:34:56 AM
Hey,
Congrats the perfect score. Thanks for sharing your joy!  :001_smile:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: aragog on September 04, 2014, 08:39:15 AM
Mine
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on September 04, 2014, 01:10:12 PM
Wow nice!  1988 China Ningxia autonomy bank, SPECIMEN!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandamonium on September 06, 2014, 12:44:00 AM
Here is one on ebay 181492902624   $335!   why so expensive?......
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaOrLunar on September 06, 2014, 04:09:12 AM
Here is one on ebay 181492902624   $335!   why so expensive?......
Some sellers like to list high.  I could be way out.  But I expected it should be in the range of US$120 - US$200.  Believe because it is the lowest mintage of the circulating commemorative BU.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on September 06, 2014, 11:36:27 AM
Here is one on ebay 181492902624   $335!   why so expensive?......
This is the specimen version of ningxia autonomy bank and you can tell by the two extra characters on the left and right of the central temple.  According to my old Krause world coin catalog, Ningxia autonomy bank has a mintage of 1.5 million, but the specimen has a mintage of 10,000.  The Krause catalog (yr 2009) listed Ningxia regular with a value of $22.5, but specimen is listed as $2700.  Quite a difference.  I hope forum members more familiar with the Ningxia autonomy bank can enlighten us with more updated information.

NGC population shows there are 1123 NINGXIA AUTONOMY 30TH ANNIVERSARY graded.
NGC population shows there are 17 NINGXIA AUTONOMY BANK SPECIMEN graded.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: fwang2450 on September 06, 2014, 12:48:39 PM
This is the specimen version of ningxia autonomy bank and you can tell by the two extra characters on the left and right of the central temple.  According to my old Krause world coin catalog, Ningxia autonomy bank has a mintage of 1.5 million, but the specimen has a mintage of 10,000.  The Krause catalog (yr 2009) listed Ningxia regular with a value of $22.5, but specimen is listed as $2700.  Quite a difference.  I hope forum members more familiar with the Ningxia autonomy bank can enlighten us with more updated information.

NGC population shows there are 1123 NINGXIA AUTONOMY 30TH ANNIVERSARY graded.
NGC population shows there are 17 NINGXIA AUTONOMY BANK SPECIMEN graded.

Did the seller change the picture? I do not see the characters 样币 (bank specimen) on the coin.
(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjY4WDg2Mw==/z/n4QAAOSwhglTwXf6/$_57.JPG)

If it is not a bank specimen, the price provided by Mr. Sun Keqin in his catalog to be published at the end of the year is 850 Yuan, or about USD 130.

I am attaching a picture of the bank specimen. According to Sun's catalog, the price for the Ningxia bank specimen is 7000 Yuan, or about USD1100.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on September 06, 2014, 01:05:06 PM
Sorry for the confusion, I was thinking of the specimen that aragog posted in the beginning of this page.  The eBay item is not a specimen. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: aragog on September 07, 2014, 03:53:55 PM
SANDAC has a good eye and noticed specimen letters immediately
I bought mine in recent august  Hong Kong auction and I posted it not only to share my joy but to ask if there are any fakes and how to find a difference.
And I quite agree with  prices listed by fwang2450 from my own buyers` experience
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jwa1inv on September 26, 2014, 06:43:32 PM
Here is a 1994 Tri-metallic (brass plated with silver and gold) Hong Kong Expo scallop medal
recently bought on EBay. The planchet is off relative to where the features lie on the
obverse. The gold section goes high and slightly to the right. This is just below the words
"INTERNATIONAL COIN EXPOSITION". The silver part does that also, just above the words
"CHINA BANKNOTE PRINTING". I have had one of these details graded as Planchet flaw before.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on September 26, 2014, 07:42:13 PM
Was it 3538861-001, proof detail, planchet flaw?  The alignment seems OK, but the reverse has a large round spot, 7 oclock on the pathway of the Great Wall.

I noticed the misalignment seems pretty common, both on the obverse (e.g., 3554446-043) as well as the reverse (e.g., 3564945-014)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jwa1inv on September 26, 2014, 08:46:33 PM
Yes, 3538861-001 was the one with the planchet flaw.
I have low resolution photos of that one here.
Maybe the spots on the new one can be conserved out.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: AllSong on October 14, 2014, 09:58:32 AM
I finally got a set of coins to go with my avatar. I have always loved the Monkey King, protagonist of the Pilgrimage to West.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandamonium on October 14, 2014, 09:13:39 PM
What is a Monkey King?   Real past history or just a story?   There are a few MCC i do not understand......
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on October 14, 2014, 09:35:34 PM
Monkey King is a much beloved character from the famous fantasy novel "Journey to the West".  Think the fantasy novel as the Chinese version of the "Lord of the rings" except the story is several hundreds years old.  I believe the pilgrimage of the monk in Tang Dynasty is an actual historical event but the magical encounters in the journey were pure fiction.  Most Chinese are familiar with the story, the legend is an integral part of Chinese culture. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandamonium on October 15, 2014, 03:28:58 PM
What is a kirin?   Is it based on a real animal or reptile?   Almost like a dinosaur.   I saw on TV a ancient temple uncovered in Iraq.   It had stone images of many animals including a reptile like dragon.    It looked like the kirin on the reverse of Unicorn MCC.   Why would the ancient people put a fantasy animal/reptile on their temple?  Makes sense it was once a living creature.   Was the Chinese kirin a real creature?   Same question for the Chinese dragon.....   
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: AllSong on October 16, 2014, 09:08:53 AM
Being one of four great classocal novels, I don't find it weird making coins about it. The is also one in the "Traditional Culture" serie 1997, also known as "Peking Opera" picturing Sun Wukong (Monkey King in pp).

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on October 17, 2014, 03:05:38 PM
I was able to pick up a 1987 New Orleans medal today.   This one will go great with the 1988 one I found earlier this year.

The photos will be too small


(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/neworleans_zps75a0ad61.jpg)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/neworleans1_zps79c05fb4.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: trozau on October 17, 2014, 05:20:34 PM
Nice snag!  N31
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on November 03, 2014, 05:18:51 PM
After several years of waiting, I finally found a 2001D G1/2 MS69 available at the right price to fill that hole in my collection.  It looks like it is the "Shaded Bamboo" PAN 342B version or "rear-side-filled" http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=2193.msg47398#msg47398 

Does anyone happen to know whether there is a significant difference in frequency between the varieties of 2001D for the G1/2 size?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: trozau on November 03, 2014, 05:56:49 PM
Sweet!  :001_tt1:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jwa1inv on November 14, 2014, 01:30:19 PM
The spotty Tri metallic Hong Kong Expo posted earlier was cleaned up well by NCS.
It graded PF 67 ultra cameo.
It had the seven o'clock spot on the Great Wall pathway.
Was it 3538861-001, proof detail, planchet flaw?  The alignment seems OK, but the reverse has a large round spot, 7 oclock on the pathway of the Great Wall.

I noticed the misalignment seems pretty common, both on the obverse (e.g., 3554446-043) as well as the reverse (e.g., 3564945-014)

Here is the updated picture:
 
Title: CITIC BANK
Post by: zippy on November 27, 2014, 05:21:40 PM
 HAS ANYONE GOT A CITIC BANK COIN TOO SELL
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: barsenault on December 13, 2014, 05:28:12 PM
I got a couple of these from eBay recently.  They were marked at 1987 great wall medals, but thanks to this community, I realized they were 1984, with the original box and paper case.  I was stoked. 

http://youtu.be/Mpv5uFA0PNw
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Butch on January 14, 2015, 09:20:42 AM
1997 25 yuan bimetal panda coin, undergraded at 66 by NGC.  Sold by a reputable board member.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: barsenault on February 26, 2015, 10:02:00 PM
Here is a beauty. 299 pieces. Enjoy.

http://youtu.be/i7f_vxtQLpY
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mmissinglink on April 17, 2015, 11:08:04 PM
Nice looking coin Barsenault!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: andrewlee10 on April 18, 2015, 12:26:34 AM
where the NGC PF70 video and the designer name coa?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: barsenault on April 18, 2015, 08:49:40 AM
Here are the beauties I just received.  It is posted under the Panda Goat topic too.  This is one of my favorites.,

https://youtu.be/1N3R6LYW6zM
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on May 03, 2015, 11:03:37 AM
I thought I'd share a few additions. 

Gold pandas have been fairly hot the past few months.  Some of them are too hot for me to buy right now.  I've been selling some lower grade, common variety gold pandas to China to go into the master sets.  At the same time, however, I've noticed that the premium for better-variety and higher-grade gold pandas has been getting smaller.  Accordingly, I picked up a few items.  If I can get a scarcer-variety MS69 for a small premium over the common variety, or if I can get a pop 10 or less, MS70 of a better variety panda for 10-20% above current market price on an MS69, I'm willing to take a risk.  The risk being that the number of MS70 increases faster than broader interest in these highest grade coins.  With uncommon varieties, a low population of 70s thus far, and if paying a small initial premium, I'll roll the dice. 

And for all of these I paid significantly less than I would have paid at any time in the past several years.

This is just quick snapshot photo of the coins in their plastic sheaths.  The photo is of low quality, but the surfaces of these coins are pristine.
Title: help value my silver Chinese coins
Post by: Skippy Gary on June 14, 2015, 04:34:12 PM
1990 silver 10 yuan coin, can anybody help value this coin, many thanks
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Skippy Gary on June 14, 2015, 04:37:01 PM
Can anybody help value my 1991 10 yuan Chinese silver coin
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Skippy Gary on June 14, 2015, 04:39:21 PM
Can anybody help value my two 1992 10 yuan Chinese silver coins
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: UniqueCoins on August 12, 2015, 08:56:07 AM
here is part of my collection, that are already graded.
There are atm more coins at ngc and alot of OMP, that ill post in the future.


https://youtu.be/KkSHawoSd7I

with 1 Yuan 1985 Brass Panda, Broken Legs, 2000 Mirrored, Varieteys.
btw my first Video :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: danny on August 12, 2015, 09:53:34 AM
Awesome video and great collection. Well done! Am a UK collector. Was wondering where you buy your MCC's? Do you buy from European dealers? Also do you buy the coins raw and grade yourself?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: UniqueCoins on August 12, 2015, 05:54:15 PM
Thanks.

i buy the coins from private.
Coins are raw and i give it to the NGC Office at Munich.

Germany is for MCC a great Country.
MDM, Münzkontor and some other large dealers have bought in the 80ths and 90ths nearly 90% of the complete mintage.
Good example is the 100 Yuan 1994 Endangered Wildlife Panda. MDM have a coin set released with mintage 5.000 and have only needed 700 examples.
The coins comes now piece for piece back to market, when the inherit sells the collections from grandpa.

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on August 12, 2015, 06:09:01 PM
here is part of my collection, that are already graded.
There are atm more coins at ngc and alot of OMP, that ill post in the future.


https://youtu.be/KkSHawoSd7I

with 1 Yuan 1985 Brass Panda, Broken Legs, 2000 Mirrored, Varieteys.
btw my first Video :)

What a great collection.  Thanks for sharing! :thumbup:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: fwang2450 on September 17, 2015, 01:27:20 AM
here is part of my collection, that are already graded.
There are atm more coins at ngc and alot of OMP, that ill post in the future.


https://youtu.be/KkSHawoSd7I

with 1 Yuan 1985 Brass Panda, Broken Legs, 2000 Mirrored, Varieteys.
btw my first Video :)

The 1985 brass panda is certainly the envy of both precious metal and base metal coin collectors.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on September 17, 2015, 02:00:25 AM
The 1985 brass panda is certainly the envy of both precious metal and base metal coin collectors.

I have daydreamed of parachuting into a certain country at night, grabbing the coin from my dealer, doing a fast cross country drive chased by security forces and escaping by fast boat. I have the 1983 and 1984 but no 1985 coin. I live in hope!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on September 17, 2015, 09:24:53 PM
Items just arrived following purchase from PandaQuest:

Two 1982 China Panda 1/10oz gold coins in OMP and a 1990 5oz Silver Panda coin also in OMP. The coins look good to me. I'll send them off to NCS/NGC soon. Photos attached.

It was a great and problem free transaction. Will head for the feedback page after this.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on September 17, 2015, 09:40:08 PM
Items just arrived following purchase from PandaQuest:

Two 1982 China Panda 1/10oz gold coins in OMP and a 1990 5oz Silver Panda coin also in OMP. The coins look good to me. I'll send them off to NCS/NGC soon. Photos attached.

It was a great and problem free transaction. Will head for the feedback page after this.

  Those big silver coins are definitely impressive. I like the different panda designs they have.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on September 21, 2015, 10:57:10 AM
The first thing I did when I discovered modern Chinese coins was to collect the 1oz silver panda coins starting from 1983. I have completed the set and just add a coin every year. I had to replace the 2004 coin that developed white spots. One or two others have slight spotting. I initially bought MS for the 1990's coins but I am gradually adding the PF equivalent when the price makes sense and the quality of the coin good. I'll get them into archival bags soon.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on September 21, 2015, 11:06:34 AM
Next thing I did was to build a 1/2oz Panda set incorporating the silver coins, the 1993 copper coin and the two Hong Kong expo silver Panda coins of 1997 and 1998. I also have the two 1/2oz colorized coins somewhere. I need to add them to this collection!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on September 21, 2015, 11:22:22 AM
Nice collection.  Thanks for sharing.   :001_tongue:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on September 21, 2015, 11:46:36 AM
The first thing I did when I discovered modern Chinese coins was to collect the 1oz silver panda coins starting from 1983. I have completed the set and just add a coin every year. I had to replace the 2004 coin that developed white spots. One or two others have slight spotting. I initially bought MS for the 1990's coins but I am gradually adding the PF equivalent when the price makes sense and the quality of the coin good. I'll get them into archival bags soon.

So you had zero white spots on the 2004 when you bought it?  How long after purchase did you notice the white spots?  Did you buy it already graded?  Or did you buy it OMP and send it in for grading? 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on September 21, 2015, 12:27:43 PM
I bought it already graded from eBay about I year ago. I didn't notice any spots then. I couldn't have missed any significant spotting, although I wasn't as experienced then with detecting subtle signs. When next I brought out the set from storage >6 months I noticed the spots. They were quite marked. I wouldn't have missed them when I bought the slabbed coin. So it must have developed after I bought it.

The only coin in my set I bought in OMP was the 1984 1oz silver panda. I sent it for grading and got PF68. It still looks fine. I didn't send it through NCS. Maybe that would have improved the grade!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on September 21, 2015, 12:57:39 PM
  Those big silver coins are definitely impressive. I like the different panda designs they have.  Thanks for sharing.

I collect the 5oz coins and medals at a more leisurely pace, some in OMP and some slabbed. I prefer their looks (clarity and better definition) compared to the 1oz coins. The 1990's and some early 2000's are quite pricey!

I am slowing down with my silver collection and turning more to gold due to the pervasive white spot problems but I still collect silver when I have to!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on September 22, 2015, 06:05:56 PM
I have so far collected yearly sets of Gold panda coins. I pick up sets as they become available and affordable. A random pick is shown below.

These are just examples of coins and medals I like collecting. I collect both old and new issue coins and medals. Some are collected under a theme, others are random. Just enjoying the whole thing!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: trozau on September 22, 2015, 06:36:06 PM
Nice.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on September 22, 2015, 08:05:26 PM
Nice.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jwa1inv on November 05, 2015, 09:20:56 PM
These came back from Grading and Conservation today.
The Gilded Rose was the 69 grade I had hoped for.
The Camellia had white spots before I sent it in. But...
I had my sweaty fingers too close to the capsule for too long during opening.
That created the white sections along the rims which did not conserve out.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: pandamonium on November 06, 2015, 08:38:39 AM
Those are my favorite Chinese flower coins and colored.   Have you noticed that very few flower MCC are for sale?......Remember the 1997 silver flower set former dealer Jay sold here?   Have not seen any of them listed on ebay for some time.......   
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: bekiz on November 07, 2015, 04:25:02 AM
My latest addition.
Anybody knows actual mintage?
(http://s19.postimg.org/egrmpi0v7/10_yuan_silver_1999_Great_Collections.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on November 07, 2015, 09:21:21 AM
 Part of a set of 2 silver coins  The 22nd World Philatelic Congress, 50,000 was the planned mintage ,but I would suspect far less where minted .You rarely see either coin for sale and almost never see the set for sale . they pop up singly on e bay .My humble opinion is they are quite unavailable ..I have both coins graded  ngc pf69   and will post pictures later    to speak to obscurity LESS than 20 coins each of the 2 coins in the set have been graded by NGC   Nice coin and a nice find!!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on November 08, 2015, 04:36:00 PM
 :001_rolleyes:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: silverpv on November 09, 2015, 02:02:47 PM
Here's a couple of my latest pickups! Notice the color between the pcgs and ngc holder... These pandas are such a rabbit hole.

(http://i.imgur.com/JWpRojgl.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: ChinaClipper on November 17, 2015, 02:16:16 AM
I picked these 2 up this summer at the Bank of China. It was for the 70th anniversary of the end of WWII. 1/4 gold and 1 oz. silver coins. They also minted a 5 ounce silver one but they only made 5000 so none were to be found (by me anyway). Photos attached.

Sorry in advance for the crappy cell phone pix.





Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on November 17, 2015, 03:20:16 AM
Lucky you! I don't think any made it out West. I haven't seen them on eBay. Good catch!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: ChinaClipper on November 17, 2015, 03:39:25 AM
Lucky you! I don't think any made it out West. I haven't seen them on eBay. Good catch!

Howdy, KeepOnTrying

Supposedly there were a half a dozen or more different mints around the world that were going to issue these in cooperation but I haven't seen any turn up anywhere. They were really difficult to get here in China. I had to pay in advance and wait for 2 months to get them.

The new lunar coins (monkeys) are real hard to get too here in China (for me anyway-  :laugh:). I have been trying to get 2 sets from the Bank of China since September, but they  don't know if they can get them. They told me they may have all been sold. If I get them I will post pix of  them.

I ordered (and paid for) 2 sets of the 2016 pandas today and they should be coming  in next month.

I met a guy today who was from Hong Kong and was in the Bank of China to order 2016 Pandas (like I was). He told me Hong Kong issues all sorts of gold and silver coins so I will check there next month when I visit there.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on November 21, 2015, 08:18:04 AM
Just got this one love the cert# ;) ,question for the 1/2 oz experienced collectors .2009 common year?? why so little graded by NGC? am I missing something...Im new to the 1/2,s
2009 CHINA G200Y PANDA COIN CENSUS
Description:    CHINA - PANDA SERIES
Category:    WORLD COINS
Denomination:    G200Y
Year/Mint:    2009 CHINA
Variety:    PANDA
Designation:    MS
Total Graded:    209
Census Detail

    PRAG   G   VG   F   VF   40   45   50   53   55   58   60   61   62   63   64   65   66   67   68   69   70
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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on November 21, 2015, 08:18:49 AM
sorry
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on November 21, 2015, 09:39:41 AM
sorry

Looking good and you got three lucky numbers! Was the co$t of the G1/2oz painful?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on November 21, 2015, 10:33:52 AM
 Really not terrible but I sure wish I would've bought a couple sheets of them in 2009
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on November 21, 2015, 12:20:36 PM
Just got this one love the cert# ;) ,question for the 1/2 oz experienced collectors .2009 common year?? why so little graded by NGC? am I missing something...Im new to the 1/2,s
2009 CHINA G200Y PANDA COIN CENSUS
Description:    CHINA - PANDA SERIES
Category:    WORLD COINS
Denomination:    G200Y
Year/Mint:    2009 CHINA
Variety:    PANDA
Designation:    MS
Total Graded:    209
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Base   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   1   0   3   12   131   62
* Star   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0   0
   

Here is one thought:  Until a year or so ago, any G1/2 newer than perhaps 2006 was not thought of as having much numismatic premium.  Accordingly, I think some people thought it wasn't worth spending the money to send them in for grading.  As the numismatic premium strengthens, I suspect more 2009 G1/2 OMP will be sent in for grading.

As a somewhat amusing example, look at the Pricepedia prices for the 2009 G1/2 exactly one year ago (November 2014).  The average of the three OMP sales listed was $955, but the average the two NGC MS69 sales listed was $878.  I wouldn't read too much into that, but if I had a sheet of 2009 G1/2 in 2014, looking at those prices wouldn't motivate me to spend money on grading fees.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on November 21, 2015, 12:41:36 PM
Really not terrible but I sure wish I would've bought a couple sheets of them in 2009

Here is one thought:  Until a year or so ago, any G1/2 newer than perhaps 2006 was not thought of as having much numismatic premium.  Accordingly, I think some people thought it wasn't worth spending the money to send them in for grading.  As the numismatic premium strengthens, I suspect more 2009 G1/2 OMP will be sent in for grading.

As a somewhat amusing example, look at the Pricepedia prices for the 2009 G1/2 exactly one year ago (November 2014).  The average of the three OMP sales listed was $955, but the average the two NGC MS69 sales listed was $878.  I wouldn't read too much into that, but if I had a sheet of 2009 G1/2 in 2014, looking at those prices wouldn't motivate me to spend money on grading fees.

And 2009 was just six years ago. Anyone still thinking that "post-2010 collection and investment strategies" is still a joke (despite the current mintage numbers)? I hope the Lord gives me enough time to answer that question on CCF in 10-20 years!  :w00t:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=11630.0

Even KDP is beginning to talk of possibilities: http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=11888.msg69369#msg69369

With the expanded spectrum of Panda gold coins (from 2016 onwards) will another fractional take over from the G1/2oz (G15g) coin as key or become an important semi-key fractional coin?  N20
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on November 21, 2015, 12:48:09 PM
 You are probably right what a difference a year can make the asking price on MS 69  g200y  is close to 1200 and yes asking is not getting I paid around that for this MS 70 which I did not think it was a horrible price  as if you buy a raw  coin  It appears you have a one in three chance approximately of getting a 70 you really don't see these for sale too often so I thought my purchase was prudent
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: mowi on December 21, 2015, 12:26:14 PM
My xmas gift.. to myself.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on December 21, 2015, 12:31:55 PM
My xmas gift.. to myself.

Looking good. Congratulations and Merry Christmas!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Vredaren on December 21, 2015, 03:37:29 PM
Congratulations (grattis!) a beautiful addition.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on January 08, 2016, 02:36:30 PM
My 2002 China Coin Designs of Chen Jian medal just returned from NCS/NGC. I think the PF69 grade is great for such a complex multilevel medal. Photo taken with the iPad Pro camera with post exposure image editing with onboard software.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Mirkkanen on January 08, 2016, 04:27:16 PM
Never seen that one before. Nice pick up and congrats on the strong grade.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on January 08, 2016, 04:32:57 PM
Never seen that one before. Nice pick up and congrats on the strong grade.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on January 26, 2016, 06:26:21 PM
I know its a medal . I picked it up low mintage Shanghai mint ,I never saw one before ,anyone know much about it?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: silverpv on January 28, 2016, 06:00:43 PM
Newest coin that just came in... 1998 1/20 5 Yuan. It's so small!

(http://i.imgur.com/SOr0xG0l.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yd1pjpgl.jpg)

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: chinadollnina on January 31, 2016, 05:38:58 PM
how much would you guys pay for this??

http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/1981-china-s10y-lu-xun-ngc-pf-69-ultra-cameo-vi-101-c-0d74219941
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: chinadollnina on January 31, 2016, 05:40:25 PM
or this?

http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/2003-dream-of-the-red-chamber-miao-yu-coin-ngc-102-c-1ab4c5faab
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: chinadollnina on January 31, 2016, 05:42:21 PM
WWAAYYYYY under valued? Thoughts??

http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/1994-china-unicorn-set-with-box-5-pieces-complete-106-c-26144e1a2f
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: chinadollnina on January 31, 2016, 05:46:32 PM
Anyone bidding in this auction for these?????
http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/1990-20oz-dragon-phoenix-coin-with-ornate-sil-108-c-7a44f8c870
http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/1988-china-hong-kong-expo-medal,-tied-for-finest-107-c-a844b1a947
http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/1978-peoples-republic-of-china-gold-medal-gallopi-110-c-5444f4b898
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Mirkkanen on January 31, 2016, 05:48:11 PM
WWAAYYYYY under valued? Thoughts??

http://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/1994-china-unicorn-set-with-box-5-pieces-complete-106-c-26144e1a2f

My thoughts are . . . I have a 1994 g5y in OMP, and G10Y and S10Y silver, in ngc MS69, which I will sell to you for below the price you would pay for that set. All you'd need to find is the g25y . . .

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: chinadollnina on January 31, 2016, 05:50:14 PM
i just bid on this!!  N16
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeyDate1/2ozPandas on January 31, 2016, 06:07:42 PM
In the US this set goes for $1100-$1200 raw and $1350-$1450 in PF69.

Here is a PF69 set that sold on ebay with extra BU coin, excluding BU coin the set would sell for under $1400.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1994-China-Unicorn-Gold-Silver-NGC-PF69-UCAM-MS68-5-Coin-Set-w-S10Y-1994-P-/361442766075

The 1994 unicorn set that is rare and desirable is the 2pc set consisting of 1/2oz gold and 1/4oz bimetal.

Arif
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: numistacker on February 11, 2016, 04:14:49 PM
Well here goes - here are some of my recent pickups...

(http://s10.postimg.org/rvb2szw2d/Photo_Feb_11_9_05_21_PM.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/rvb2szw2d/) (http://s10.postimg.org/h77bu5m39/Photo_Feb_11_9_05_26_PM.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/h77bu5m39/)

(http://s10.postimg.org/5zyhm1kph/Photo_Feb_11_9_06_14_PM.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/5zyhm1kph/)

(http://s10.postimg.org/hnsjgl9ud/Photo_Feb_11_9_08_03_PM.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/hnsjgl9ud/) (http://s10.postimg.org/4v4fgny8l/Photo_Feb_11_9_08_10_PM.jpg) (http://postimg.org/image/4v4fgny8l/)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: allgeekspcstore on February 17, 2016, 11:11:52 PM
cool i like all of those numistacker :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: numistacker on February 18, 2016, 05:05:34 AM
cool i like all of those numistacker :)

Thanks - slowly adding to my chinese coins and now medals as well.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on March 16, 2016, 07:19:44 AM
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2828_zpsn5g58lk0.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2828_zpsn5g58lk0.jpg.html)

Gotcha!  :001_smile:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on March 16, 2016, 07:41:21 AM
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2828_zpsn5g58lk0.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2828_zpsn5g58lk0.jpg.html)

Gotcha!  :001_smile:

Very nice.  The 99 LD serif is a tougher variety than many people appreciate.  That interior plastic capsule also makes it a an attractive OMP package.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Mirkkanen on March 16, 2016, 10:04:04 AM
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2828_zpsn5g58lk0.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2828_zpsn5g58lk0.jpg.html)

Gotcha!  :001_smile:

Found them where, you did?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on March 17, 2016, 06:18:24 AM
Very nice.  The 99 LD serif is a tougher variety than many people appreciate.  That interior plastic capsule also makes it a an attractive OMP package.

Thanks Birdman. Im thinking to send them to NCS and NGC because theres a small red spot on the 1/10. But then again, what you said about the interior plastic capsule got me thinking again.

Found them where, you did?

At a coin market in Shanghai. Not easy though, combed and asked through most of the shops.

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on March 17, 2016, 07:34:41 AM
Thanks Birdman. Im thinking to send them to NCS and NGC because theres a small red spot on the 1/10. But then again, what you said about the interior plastic capsule got me thinking again.

Your decision will depend on your goals.  Although it is an attractive OMP package, if you want to maximize your investment returns, grading may be the best option in this case, if the coin itself is in great condition. NCS can get rid of the red spot and, in the case of the G5 serif, an MS69 is a grade rarity.  There are no MS70 and only 30 of 88 grade an MS69.  Thus, if you take a close look at the coin with a 10x lens and see any small forehead rubs or any marks that you think would prevent a 69, you might prefer to keep it OMP.  If, however, it looks pristine, you might want to send it in for grading.  Having said all of that, if you bought it in a coin market in Shanghai, I bet the dealer that sold it to you (or the dealer that sold it to him) has already taken a very close look at the coin.  If you had bought it from a collector who had purchased it new and had it sitting in a safe for 15+ years, that would be another story.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on March 17, 2016, 08:43:00 AM
Thanks again Birdman for your advice!  N47
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: wg on March 17, 2016, 01:02:23 PM
excuse me :( ... looks like it isn't omp.
imho re-sealed.

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on March 17, 2016, 01:12:02 PM
excuse me :( ... looks like it isn't omp.
imho re-sealed.

Interesting

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=8649.msg51466#msg51466
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: wg on March 17, 2016, 01:48:41 PM
 shenzhen guobao???

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on March 17, 2016, 02:01:53 PM
shenzhen guobao???

Having said all of that, if you bought it in a coin market in Shanghai, I bet the dealer that sold it to you (or the dealer that sold it to him) has already taken a very close look at the coin.  If you had bought it from a collector who had purchased it new and had it sitting in a safe for 15+ years, that would be another story.

Perhaps one of the dealers along the line took more than a very close look.  Perhaps they submitted it for grading, got a low grade, cracked it out of the holder, and then resealed it to sell as OMP. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: poconopenn on March 17, 2016, 05:10:17 PM
1999 large date serif 1 gold panda is the first gold panda minted at Shenzhen Guobao. I believe that the double sealed package does not have Shenzhen Guobao imprint in one side of the pouch for this year. IMO, 1/20 oz. coin is a reseal and 1/10 oz. coin may be OK. Pictures are not good enough to see all details of pouch, but coins appear to be in an excellent condition.

1999 large date serif 1 has the lowest NGC and PCGS population, except 1 oz., among all gold pandas graded in their respective fractions, especially 1/10 oz. (NGC has 57 and PCGS 8) and the average grade for 1/20 oz. is 68.

Congratulation, moosician.  
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on March 18, 2016, 07:14:23 AM
Thanks all for chiming in.

The first thing i did was to check online if the 1/20 packaging is original or not.
Couldnt find any info except this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-China-Gold-Panda-Large-Date-with-Serif-1-20Oz-Original-Mint-Seal-Capsule-/222040768154?hash=item33b2a93e9a:g:wfkAAOSwFnFWCxWY

Packaging looks to be similar with mine so that time i assumed that it is original. Any thoughts?

Tried to take better close ups of the coins, here they are, but too bad the paper slips are in the way.
I do not have a magnifying glass with me, but the head looks ok, maybe a few very tiny shiny spots scattered on the rock. Theres the obvious red spot on the bottom right on the rim. Then on the left to the letter 1 there is a shiny spot. Cant tell if its a nick or a speck of plastic on the surface. This is for the 1/10. The 1/20 looks good to me but again the paper is in the way.

1/10:

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/7c3050b0-e285-4ef1-8ce5-e57c3df5f86d_zpsyutnhooo.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/7c3050b0-e285-4ef1-8ce5-e57c3df5f86d_zpsyutnhooo.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2836_zpskyntgqus.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2836_zpskyntgqus.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2839_zpslad79rfv.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2839_zpslad79rfv.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2837_zpsaob10d8r.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2837_zpsaob10d8r.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2838_zpshxmidmlc.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2838_zpshxmidmlc.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2835_zpsh43bbufb.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2835_zpsh43bbufb.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on March 18, 2016, 07:16:25 AM
1/20:

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2830_zpsqixkqryq.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2830_zpsqixkqryq.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2832_zpsw9zkquzs.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2832_zpsw9zkquzs.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2833_zpsto0gdarb.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2833_zpsto0gdarb.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on March 18, 2016, 07:46:28 AM
More pics of the pouch
1/10:

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2843_zpscvf3bi4k.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2843_zpscvf3bi4k.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2844_zpsbo9wgpnb.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2844_zpsbo9wgpnb.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2842_zps9u9jnvjp.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2842_zps9u9jnvjp.jpg.html)


1/20:
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2847_zpsavzh47im.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2847_zpsavzh47im.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2846_zpsfl6fbf6u.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2846_zpsfl6fbf6u.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2845_zpso0nfpxin.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2845_zpso0nfpxin.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on March 18, 2016, 07:50:59 AM
Dang, i need a better camera :p
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: wg on March 18, 2016, 11:32:30 AM
( .. )
Tried to take better close ups of the coins, here they are, but too bad the paper slips are in the way.
( .. )
 The 1/20 looks good to me but again the paper is in the way.

( .. )


 ;)

that's the reason why
omp shenzhen guobao
has folded "mint slips".
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: wg on March 21, 2016, 03:33:14 AM
Thanks all for chiming in.

The first thing i did was to check online if the 1/20 packaging is original or not.
Couldnt find any info except this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1999-China-Gold-Panda-Large-Date-with-Serif-1-20Oz-Original-Mint-Seal-Capsule-/222040768154?hash=item33b2a93e9a:g:wfkAAOSwFnFWCxWY

Packaging looks to be similar with mine so that time i assumed that it is original. Any thoughts?



Quote
:(

also re-sealed




Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on March 21, 2016, 08:49:49 AM
Thanks wg.

I considered a lesson learned.
Now maybe i will open the 1/20 resealed flip and look at the coin closely to determine its grade quality.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Mirkkanen on March 21, 2016, 10:01:57 AM
They could still be 69 candidates, just not in the packaging in which they left the mint. Good luck submitting. Look for clear fields without cloudiness.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on March 21, 2016, 10:19:50 AM
excuse me :( ... looks like it isn't omp.
imho re-sealed.

Thanks wg.

I considered a lesson learned.
Now maybe i will open the 1/20 resealed flip and look at the coin closely to determine its grade quality.

Thanks to both wg and moosician. +1 each!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dynamike51 on March 21, 2016, 03:37:17 PM
Thanks wg.

I considered a lesson learned.
Now maybe i will open the 1/20 resealed flip and look at the coin closely to determine its grade quality.

moosician,

If it was me, I probably would not cut open the seal, if I intend to submit it for grading. Who knows how it would affect NGC's thinking - receiving a coin in a seal vs a raw coin?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Mirkkanen on March 21, 2016, 03:38:53 PM
Respectfully disagree.

I'd send both of those coins to NGC in flips so that they wouldn't rattle around in the capsules at the whim of P.O. workers while on their way to grading.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on March 21, 2016, 03:44:50 PM
Another option would be to ask the dealer you bought them from for a refund if you feel that things weren't represented properly (although I'm not sure if that is done in China).  If the coins do look good to you under a 10x lens, however, then you may have the coins you have sought (who cares about the reseal) and you submit them for a 69.  Keep in mind that a 69 is a grade rarity for the G1/20, so I would be very suspicious why it is a reseal.  I would guess that somebody has already submitted it and then tried to cover their tracks.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dynamike51 on March 21, 2016, 03:50:48 PM
Respectfully disagree.

I'd send both of those coins to NGC in flips so that they wouldn't rattle around in the capsules at the whim of P.O. workers while on their way to grading.

Your point well taken, Mirk. usually, if the coin is in the right (fit) capsule, it shouldn't rattle around.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: silverpv on March 21, 2016, 04:29:38 PM
moosician,

If it was me, I probably would not cut open the seal, if I intend to submit it for grading. Who knows how it would affect NGC's thinking - receiving a coin in a seal vs a raw coin?

I don't think it affects grading. The graders aren't the ones who see the coin in receving where they are cut out and put in grader flips. I've submitted coins raw and they graded mostly 69s. The same as when I sent them in sealed. I cut them open this time around because of a comment made by Arif in the grading section of this forum. I also wanted to take a closer look at the coin prior to sending them out. My sample size is small ~40 coins now, but its first hand experience! :)

I wouldnt mind buying this coin if you're thinking about returning it. ;) 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on March 21, 2016, 04:32:37 PM
I take coins out of OMP so I can photograph them without all the plastic in between, and then put them in Mylar flips for submission.  I rather do it myself carefully and slowly than a low-paying clerk at NGC rushing through them.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dynamike51 on March 21, 2016, 04:48:18 PM
Now I have heard from three different members who'd rather take coins out of the seal before submitting. I will reassess my way of thinking and submission from now on. Thanks guys. N31
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on March 21, 2016, 06:11:21 PM
Well I guess everyone has their own way of handling things and I’m no professional like many members here on CCF but I can attest that I have personally submitted a few hundred coins (silver, gold, platinum) to NGC for grading and have NEVER removed them from capsules or OMP.

I’ve had coins submitted that have been in OMP for over 30 years that graded MS 69.

It’s just my opinion that I would never remove from OMP to submit to NGC and I say this because I have had great success.

In the end it's really up to the submitter and I can respect the opinions of those who feel otherwise as they have had good fortune by removing coins from OMP for submission to NGC.

Good Luck !  :001_smile:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: silverpv on March 21, 2016, 07:39:00 PM
If you don't want to cut them out, you don't have to. I just did because of what was recommended in the forum. I have to admit, it was very stressful cutting them out. lol. Also so worried sending them there, what coins to put on top of them etc. Completely irrational emotions considering it's all the same anyways, but still required major concentration. It felt a lot like surgery.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jwa1inv on March 21, 2016, 08:28:39 PM
A mistake I once made while removing a silver coin from its capsule
was letting my sweaty hands get too close while trying to open it.
Vapor got inside the capsule and left a light whitish haze that remained
after conservation. The haze was only along the rim where I struggled
to pry open the capsule. Maybe cotton gloves would have helped.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: silverpv on March 21, 2016, 08:39:41 PM
A mistake I once made while removing a silver coin from its capsule
was letting my sweaty hands get too close while trying to open it.
Vapor got inside the capsule and left a light whitish haze that remained
after conservation. The haze was only along the rim where I struggled
to pry open the capsule. Maybe cotton gloves would have helped.


One should definitely be using cotton gloves. It's so easy to touch any part of the fields on the coin and on silver that's disasterous! Crazy story!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on March 21, 2016, 11:06:19 PM
Silver is more reactive than gold so there is more potential for environmental damage of silver coins as compared to gold coins when their protective OMP is opened. I have only cut open pliable copper medal OMPs for photography prior to sending to NCS/NGC. I have opened coin capsules with great trepidation once in a while. Most times I send to NGC or NCS/NGC just the way I bought the coin/medal. Finally, body oils and sweat soak through those cotton gloves so they may not be very useful after a few uses. I don't know if they can be washed and reused as you can never get rid of the detergent residue despite multiple rinses.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on March 22, 2016, 10:06:12 AM
Woah... thanks for all the replies :)
The reason i would like to open it is to look at this coin entirely without the the mint slip in the way since now we know that it is not an original seal. Then to decide if its good enough quality sending to ncs and ngc hoping for a 69 :)
But then again theres the possibility of this coin being a lower grade than 69. If its a 68 or 67, so be it. At least i have the chance to look at it in raw form to decide to send it in or not :p
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jwa1inv on March 22, 2016, 11:24:46 AM
Lower grades can be disappointing, but getting "details grade" is very disappointing.
Details grade only verifies authenticity.
Knowing the various classifications of details grade may help save some grading money.
I have had stained, environmentally damaged, excessive hairlines, cleaned, and other types
of non gradable coins. Many of those could have been avoided and not sent in to NCS/NGC.
NGC has a guide about Details Grading I think.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on March 22, 2016, 11:30:58 AM
They are going to get graded this week.     



(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/Mobile%20Uploads/ce223907-468a-4a96-98aa-cb1b18acf8fe_zpsc7ezujth.jpg)


(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_20160322_111516249_zps18ou5eqj.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dynamike51 on March 22, 2016, 11:43:05 AM
Devlin,

The two Year of the Child coins are very nice find.   N31
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dynamike51 on March 22, 2016, 12:10:21 PM
   I rather do it myself carefully and slowly than a low-paying clerk at NGC rushing through them.

SANDAC, I don't recall ever disagreeing with you but ....

If you don't trust a "low-paying clerk" rushing through to remove a coin from OMP seal, why would you feel any safer for this person to take the coin out of a Mylar flip? All these Mylar flips are stapled together. If the flip is not opened carefully and completely, the sharp ends of the staple can easily scratch the coin. Please enlighten me.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: silverpv on March 22, 2016, 12:21:40 PM
If you don't trust a "low-paying clerk" rushing through to remove a coin from OMP seal, why would you feel any safer for this person to take the coin out of a Mylar flip? All these Mylar flips are stapled together. If the flip is not opened carefully and completely, the sharp ends of the staple can easily scratch the coin. Please enlighten me.

You are always most careful with your own stuff. If you mess up you mess up. What I read in the grading section is on a couple of occassions the coins did not look like the way they were sent in. Once you develop a technique with a small flat head and some pliers you can easily build the skill to open flips or cut omp without fear. I know what you mean, but it isn't as bad as you think. Only in the beginning. The concern is that a clerk at NGC might be rushing through orders and not take care in handling your package because of volume. Either way is OK it seems.

If you aren't comfortable send it in OMP. :)  The pro's are the pros, I am not by any means but from what I've read these other guys who are comfortable cutting them open, for them its like cutting bread.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: dynamike51 on March 22, 2016, 12:41:42 PM
You are always most careful with your own stuff. If you mess up you mess up. What I read in the grading section is on a couple of occassions the coins did not look like the way they were sent in. Once you develop a technique with a small flat head and some pliers you can easily build the skill to open flips or cut omp without fear. I know what you mean, but it isn't as bad as you think. Only in the beginning. The concern is that a clerk at NGC might be rushing through orders and not take care in handling your package because of volume. Either way is OK it seems.

If you aren't comfortable send it in OMP. :)  The pro's are the pros, I am not by any means but from what I've read these other guys who are comfortable cutting them open, for them its like cutting bread.

silverpv,

I have read some of your earlier posts where you asked for advice. Now you're sounding more like a seasoned pro giving it out. Boy, how quickly things changed ...

I didn't see you addressed the point though. The question I raised was the potential risk of removing a coin from (with sharp ends of staple) Mylar flip is greater than a capsule - based on the premise of a "low-paying clerk" cannot be trusted. I didn't ask for advice as how to remove a coin from a Mylar flip.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: silverpv on March 22, 2016, 01:23:43 PM
silverpv,

I have read some of your earlier posts where you asked for advice. Now you're sounding more like a seasoned pro giving it out. Boy, how quickly things changed ...

I didn't see you addressed the point though. The potential risk of removing a coin from (with sharp ends of staple) Mylar flip is greater than a capsule - based on the premise of a "low-paying clerk" cannot be trusted. I didn't ask for advice as how to remove a coin from a Mylar flip.

I thought I replied, there is risk by the person at NGC or the submitter, what I got out of the same conversation out of this topic was the more seasoned guys trust themselves more to handle the coin than the employee at NGC. The risk is the same, its just who handles the risk. By opening up first you can inspect the coin and take pictures so if it is mishandled you have proof. Leaving it in omp, you don't get a clear picture until you get the grade and the imaging picture.

That being said, the results look fairly similar in my limited amatuer experience. The round of 15 (80's)i sent in omp I got 1 67 on a '82 and 2 68s, the rest 69s is it representative? no. The next submission of 25 (90's & modern, regrades and ncs) i sent in where I cut them open, I got 4 68s, 3 70's and the rest 69s, still inconclusive. I decided to cut them open myself because of the MS67 on my first submission. I didn't see any issues with the coin, doens't mean anything was wrong with it, but for the next set I thought I would cut it out and send them in, which came back 68's on 2 82's. This leads me to believe the folks at ngc are trustworthy, but I can see why the guys who do hundreds would rather send it in already cut out once they get the hang of it or not.

I didn't mean to come off offensive. I just did a lot of research/homework on this very subject and thought I would share. Like you said, you saw I asked a few questions on grading, so just trying to help out and contribute to the forum that helped me...

Reference posts:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=3437.0

This was the most influential but the post applies as well.

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=10126.msg59178#msg59178

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: SANDAC on March 22, 2016, 05:23:19 PM
SANDAC, I don't recall ever disagreeing with you but ....

If you don't trust a "low-paying clerk" rushing through to remove a coin from OMP seal, why would you feel any safer for this person to take the coin out of a Mylar flip? All these Mylar flips are stapled together. If the flip is not opened carefully and completely, the sharp ends of the staple can easily scratch the coin. Please enlighten me.

The original thought in removing coins from OMP is so I can document the before/after accurately.  When I learned that coins in OMP will be removed by the receiving clerk and placed in mylar flips, I decided to do it myself to skip that manual handling step (I'm sure the receiving clerks are proficient in handling coins, but things might get hectic some days and other days are just bad days...).  NGC has explicitly stated that flips should not be taped or stapled.  In fact the taped or stapled flips will be removed (presumably by the receiving clerks) at a cost of $1/coin.  I bundled my flips together with a rubber band as recommended by NGC.  I believe properly prepared coins in mylar flips go to the grader without additional manhandling.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on March 22, 2016, 08:20:26 PM
The forgoing discussion illustrates the bountiful knowledge that accrues from our diversity; all points of view are credible. Does anyone know if the staff at NGC (and PCGS) put on masks or handle these coins behind laminar flow hoods or similar contamination prevention barriers? This is because the human breath can deposit enough material on a coin surface to initiate coin surface degeneration.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: comeaux on March 22, 2016, 09:52:38 PM
The forgoing discussion illustrates the bountiful knowledge that accrues from our diversity; all points of view are credible. Does anyone know if the staff at NGC (and PCGS) put on masks or handle these coins behind laminar flow hoods or similar contamination prevention barriers? This is because the human breath can deposit enough material on a coin surface to initiate coin surface degeneration.

They are not wearing masks or gloves ... just handling the coins being graded with bare hands.  
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BubbaJones on March 22, 2016, 10:33:52 PM
I'm new to this, but has anyone taken before and after pictures of their coins and they come back with finger prints or something worse? 

Is that proof enough for them to reimburse you for the money spent on an otherwise good coin? 

That is a bit astounding, that they grade with bare hands. 

What recourse does one have if a coin is 'runined' by these possible foolish processes?
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on March 22, 2016, 10:35:47 PM
They are not wearing masks or gloves ... just handling the coins being graded with bare hands.  

Sorry, I have to ask you this but are you sure?

Respectfully!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: silverpv on March 22, 2016, 10:40:16 PM
I'm new to this, but has anyone taken before and after pictures of their coins and they come back with finger prints or something worse?  

Is that proof enough for them to reimburse you for the money spent on an otherwise good coin?  

That is a bit astounding, that they grade with bare hands.  

What recourse does one have if a coin is 'runined' by these possible foolish processes?

You can see from a couple other folks in the threads I references folks who had issues with their coins after NGC.

According to their own promo video, you can see the graders w.o gloves or masks, but they look pretty skilled handling them. I tried with a regular coin to handle it like they do and couldn't do it. lol. The way they rotate and flip the coin to check luster and flip is so smooth.

https://youtu.be/HuffxI8f7wY?t=1m28s
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: BubbaJones on March 22, 2016, 10:44:27 PM
Good video.  I don't understand how the skin of the finger doesn't hit the edges of the coin.

That's simply nuts.

I guess it works, since they make millions a year. 

Thanks for sharing the video.  I'll just stick with buying graded coins that don't have finger prints or something worse. 

That's scary.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on March 23, 2016, 04:58:42 AM
Devlin,

The two Year of the Child coins are very nice find.   N31

Thanks !  The silver coin is the piedfort.   It is the rarest coin I have ever found.   
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on March 27, 2016, 12:30:23 PM
Heres what i picked up today, though the not so nice condition of plastic pouch and the not so wallet friendly price but because it is so difficult to find, especially a small date  :001_smile:


(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2875_zpsgdnyhsaf.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2875_zpsgdnyhsaf.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN2876_zpsmwdpk8vn.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN2876_zpsmwdpk8vn.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: silverpv on March 27, 2016, 02:01:29 PM
Very nice small date, that and the 1999 serif is monster adds to the collection! An SD too!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: banyantree on March 31, 2016, 07:43:14 AM
Hi,

an other beautiful coin.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: banyantree on March 31, 2016, 09:25:26 AM
Hi,

an other beautiful 100 Yuan Pagoda coin from 1995.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: banyantree on March 31, 2016, 09:44:12 AM
Hi,

an other beautiful coin, 100 Yuan Pagoda 1995.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on March 31, 2016, 12:07:00 PM
Very nice small date, that and the 1999 serif is monster adds to the collection! An SD too!

Thanks :)
Sent both for grading, hoping for  good grades :D
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: silverpv on March 31, 2016, 12:08:42 PM
Thanks :)
Sent both for grading, hoping for  good grades :D
Good luck on that one!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on March 31, 2016, 12:11:02 PM
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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Devlin on April 02, 2016, 12:17:13 AM
The Piefort came back as PF 65 Cameo !    From looking at it last week I did not even think it would do that. NCS was well worth it.  Speaking of worth, anyone have any thoughts ?


(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/Mobile%20Uploads/cea20052-294a-4e1d-8db2-c3b1df7df48c_zpsbp3psm74.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Gadermayr on April 02, 2016, 04:33:13 PM
Rare beautifull coin
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: banyantree on April 09, 2016, 06:30:12 AM
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Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: banyantree on April 09, 2016, 06:32:29 AM
Hi,

here an other rare beautiful coin.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: NBM on April 09, 2016, 08:47:22 AM
This is not a coin that is commonly seen or owned, congratulations.
Out of 1000 minted, Mr. Ge lists the surviving population at around 134.
NGC shows 10 of these graded with 1 - 67, 1 - 68 & 8 - 69's
Interestingly enough I have never seen a price in Pricepedia for the 1995 1 oz gold Peking opera.
The 5 coin Traditional Culture set in PF69 will run around $218,000 US
Tiny url shortcut to Google translate of such a set.
http://tinyurl.com/jjj35gc
Again congratulations on owning a very rare and desirable piece of Chinese culture.
I am deeply envious.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: poconopenn on April 09, 2016, 12:36:19 PM
Congratulation banyantree !

1995 traditional culture 5 x 1oz. gold set is the toughest to own and rarest of MCC 1oz. gold coins.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jwa1inv on April 10, 2016, 04:11:50 PM
The Piefort came back as PF 65 Cameo !    From looking at it last week I did not even think it would do that. NCS was well worth it.  Speaking of worth, anyone have any thoughts ?


(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/Mobile%20Uploads/cea20052-294a-4e1d-8db2-c3b1df7df48c_zpsbp3psm74.jpg)

65 grade is what is considered gem state.
There is only 2000 mintage, its a Piedfort, 4 and a half stars rarity in Mr. Ge's book, and Children as theme.
They do not seem to come up on EBay.

Even as a PF 65 Cameo the price has to be upwards of $10,000 or more. Out of my league that's for sure.

Professor Devlin, you always amaze. The past prices you've paid for rarities adds to the amazement.
You have gone way beyond being a mere Panda hunter.

Wondering if NCS had to clean that one up much? They do well for me.

Congratulations!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: silverpv on April 12, 2016, 02:27:11 AM
Here's the latest addition. The majority of these cherry picked and purchased omp. Built my 90's section on a budget. It took about 4-5 months to accumulate and thanks a lot to the guidance of the folks here and the archives of the grading section

Before
(http://i.imgur.com/CRmB3HAl.jpg)

After
(http://i.imgur.com/kWxu1Uhl.jpg)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on April 12, 2016, 09:45:31 AM
Here's the latest addition. The majority of these cherry picked and purchased omp. Built my 90's section on a budget. It took about 4-5 months to accumulate and thanks a lot to the guidance of the folks here and the archives of the grading section


Congratulations!
Great job.
+1
 N43   N31
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: tater on April 12, 2016, 10:38:25 AM
Here's the latest addition. The majority of these cherry picked and purchased omp. Built my 90's section on a budget. It took about 4-5 months to accumulate and thanks a lot to the guidance of the folks here and the archives of the grading section



Nicely done.  This is something that use newbies can look up to as a goal and also as a learning experience.  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeepOnTrying! on April 12, 2016, 11:08:19 AM
Nicely done.  This is something that use newbies can look up to as a goal and also as a learning experience.  Thanks for sharing.

Building a 1/10oz gold panda set is affordable enough (initially) and yes newbies can score some early victories with it. However, it starts being a bit more $painful as you approach the semi and key date coins, which are now retailing in excess of $1000 (e.g. 1995, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2000 mirror ring, ?2003 frosted, some proof coins, serif 1 etc). Some others take time to locate. Patience and horse trading at this time could get you some of those coins but things can become protracted. Yet, it is still a worthwhile endeavor!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: silverpv on April 12, 2016, 11:23:33 AM
Building a 1/10oz gold panda set is affordable enough (initially) and yes newbies can score some early victories with it. However, it starts being a bit more $painful as you approach the semi and key date coins, which are now retailing in excess of $1000 (e.g. 1995, 1998, 2002, 2006, 2000 mirror ring, ?2003 frosted, some proof coins, serif 1 etc). Some others take time to locate. Patience and horse trading at this time could get you some of those coins but things can become protracted. Yet, it is still a worthwhile endeavor!

This is very true and I originally didn't have the intention of going for the high dollar coins but once you get close enough it's hard not to go all the way. I don't know if I'll do the mirror or serif 1 though. I'm mainly sticking to large/small date. Luckily this is a long term type of hobby.. And if I'm only missing 5, I have many years to find them.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on April 13, 2016, 01:12:47 AM
Wow, very nice silverpv!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: 1668Chris on April 27, 2016, 07:08:12 PM
Shenyang proof set.  Not the best grades but coins look very nice.  Difficult to find in high grades.  This set complements my Shanghai proof set.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Birdman on April 27, 2016, 07:43:17 PM
Nice.  I don't see those coins available on the market very often.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: poconopenn on April 27, 2016, 11:23:19 PM
Shenyang proof set.  Not the best grades but coins look very nice.  Difficult to find in high grades.  This set complements my Shanghai proof set.

Congratulation Chris, you are one of the very few collectors to own both Shanghai and Shenyang versions of this 1984 Cu-Ni proof set. I doubt very much that I will ever have chance to own Shanghai Mint set. However, I do own Shenyang version in a very unique package, FDC stamped on Oct. 1, 1984, the date this set issued, bought more than 10 years ago.
 
Information of very rare Shanghai version can be found here:

http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=6501.0

Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaBear on April 28, 2016, 05:49:05 PM
@silverpr,

Very nice gold panda set you got there. 
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: 1668Chris on April 29, 2016, 09:24:20 AM
I also like to buy proof sets from 1992-2000 in original packaging.  Mintages are 20,000.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on May 02, 2016, 03:12:50 AM
The coins are back from NCS/ NGC

Im a happy man   :001_smile:

The 95 is a real surprise!

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN3354_zpsbfm9snep.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN3354_zpsbfm9snep.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Hippanda on May 02, 2016, 03:42:55 AM
Nice.
Congrats on the 1995. N31
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: silverpv on May 02, 2016, 04:02:30 AM
Nice! Congrats on all of three! NGC has been very nice lately... Awesome grades!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: KeyDate1/2ozPandas on May 02, 2016, 07:52:56 AM
The 1999 1/10 serif is 69 is awesome coin, easily the rariest 1/10 gold panda.  The 1999 1/20 very hard to get 69, I quit trying a few years ago, cheaper to buy already graded.  The ms70 is always a welcome surprise, NGC has been very tough lately, that is why I reduced submitting coins and just sell omp in many cases.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on May 02, 2016, 06:10:32 PM
Thanks all!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on May 02, 2016, 06:23:26 PM
The 1999 1/10 serif is 69 is awesome coin, easily the rariest 1/10 gold panda.  The 1999 1/20 very hard to get 69, I quit trying a few years ago, cheaper to buy already graded.  The ms70 is always a welcome surprise, NGC has been very tough lately, that is why I reduced submitting coins and just sell omp in many cases.
     I can attest to NGC ,s toughness lately :) my last 2 submissions have been dismal ..with a few 1/10 oz pandas that where for sure in my mind 69 coming back 67,68
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on May 02, 2016, 06:23:40 PM
CONGRATS!!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: moosician on May 02, 2016, 08:55:04 PM
Thanks jc :)
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: PandaQuest on May 05, 2016, 02:41:54 PM
I also like to buy proof sets from 1992-2000 in original packaging.  Mintages are 20,000.

Chris, do you know the current price for the 93-96 and 1997-2000 sets? Also are they scarce or rare? Thanks!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: 1668Chris on May 05, 2016, 03:05:35 PM
I try and pay no more than $150 per year but year 2000 costs more.  They are hard to find in the US because they were never distributed here.  Mostly show up by EBay sellers from South Korea, Taiwan or Japan.  My guess is they are available in China but MCC dealers don't deal in these types of coins
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: banyantree on May 08, 2016, 03:14:00 AM
A beautiful Panda.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Tao-Panda on May 08, 2016, 05:24:49 AM
One nice medal.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Tao-Panda on May 08, 2016, 05:25:32 AM
Another one...
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on May 08, 2016, 07:31:25 AM
wow a pittsburg!! quite hard to find congrats!and a great design too
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Tao-Panda on May 08, 2016, 10:45:43 AM
Thank you, JC.
I bought it unsealed and sent it for grading myself.
Considering the rarity of the medal, I'm glad with a 68 grade.
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on May 08, 2016, 11:16:55 AM
:):) I bid on one on German e bay a while back and was unsuccessful always wanted to own one .....VERY seldom seen....  Cincinnati i have gold and silver graded 69 and a medal handed out at that show which is quite rare,  but the Pittsburgh I have yet to acquire ..  hard to find!  congrats   
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: jc888888888 on May 08, 2016, 11:21:27 AM
oh and of course the 1997 munich the key date to the set! with the bi metal close behind...... those Munich panda,s are all low mintage  for a while a few years back the more common ones where selling ungraded on e bay germany for REAL BARGAIN prices   that ship has sailed :)   IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE if they will ride on the coat tails  of the 1/2oz gold panda!!!!
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: Tao-Panda on May 08, 2016, 12:32:29 PM
:):) I bid on one on German e bay a while back and was unsuccessful always wanted to own one .....VERY seldom seen....  Cincinnati i have gold and silver graded 69 and a medal handed out at that show which is quite rare,  but the Pittsburgh I have yet to acquire ..  hard to find!  congrats   
I bought mine about last september. Another one has been sold in auction by another german seller a few weeks later, but, contrary to mine, it was double sealed... and its final price was about 50% higher...


oh and of course the 1997 munich the key date to the set! with the bi metal close behind...... those Munich panda,s are all low mintage  for a while a few years back the more common ones where selling ungraded on e bay germany for REAL BARGAIN prices   that ship has sailed :)   IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE if they will ride on the coat tails  of the 1/2oz gold panda!!!!
With this one, I have now a complete set of PCGS PR69 1/2 oz gold Munich Panda medals.
I have another one of this 1997 which looks like, in my opinion, even better than this one but I still have to send it for grading... hope a 69 grade too... at least  :biggrin:
Title: Re: Post your newest modern Chinese coin
Post by: ivmost on May 12, 2016, 10:59:23 PM
Hello, I'm new here, so please let me know if any of my posts are inappropriate!
I have 3 Chinese coins in this auction and would like to spread the word.

http://coins.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=51+792+4294946303+4294966858&type=friend-consignorlive-notice

Briefly:
People's Republic gold "Zurich International Coin Expo" Proof Panda 1 oz Medal 1990 PR69 Ultra Cameo NGC
People's Republic gold Panda Proof 500 Yuan (5 oz) 1993 PR69 Ultra Cameo NGC,
People's Republic gold Proof "Marco Polo" 500 Yuan (5 oz) 1993 PR68 Ultra Cameo NGC
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Post by: banyantree on May 13, 2016, 01:30:20 AM
@ivmost: very beautiful and rare coins.
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Post by: banyantree on May 13, 2016, 01:35:27 AM
100 Yuan Mencius 1995
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Post by: Tao-Panda on June 08, 2016, 03:58:41 PM
Hello, I'm new here, so please let me know if any of my posts are inappropriate!
I have 3 Chinese coins in this auction and would like to spread the word.

http://coins.ha.com/c/search-results.zx?N=51+792+4294946303+4294966858&type=friend-consignorlive-notice

Briefly:
People's Republic gold "Zurich International Coin Expo" Proof Panda 1 oz Medal 1990 PR69 Ultra Cameo NGC
People's Republic gold Panda Proof 500 Yuan (5 oz) 1993 PR69 Ultra Cameo NGC,
People's Republic gold Proof "Marco Polo" 500 Yuan (5 oz) 1993 PR68 Ultra Cameo NGC

Does anybody know auctions' final prices ?
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Post by: 1668Chris on June 08, 2016, 04:41:53 PM
the auction is scheduled for June 22.
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Post by: Tao-Panda on June 08, 2016, 05:31:07 PM
the auction is scheduled for June 22.

Thank you for your reply.
The link doesn't show the coins anymore and I had the 3rd in mind.
I had the 3rd of june in mind and
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Post by: moosician on June 14, 2016, 06:25:35 AM
Finally got this today and completed the 8g endangered wildlife set  :001_wub:
Look what the folks at NGC label this coin as ...  dont know to laugh or to sigh... N23

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN3465b_zpsu3crcdcw.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN3465b_zpsu3crcdcw.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN3466_zpspv55546i.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN3466_zpspv55546i.jpg.html)
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Post by: lonemao on June 14, 2016, 06:43:55 AM
Congratulations moosician on your achievement.  With this label you may sell for higher  N27...... just kidding.
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Post by: moosician on June 14, 2016, 06:58:31 AM
Haha...thanks man.
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Post by: KeepOnTrying! on June 27, 2016, 11:38:17 PM
I seem to have found an original box, COA, medal easel together with the actual medal: 1993 Shanghai Mint Wang Xizhi Birthday Anniversary Copper Medal. I got this from ggoodluck2013. I previously documented the influence of this medal on the design of the 2014 Shanghai Mint Classical Garden Lan Ting medal: http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=11056.msg71895#msg71895

I'll post the COA and related materials in the Chinese Coins Reference Materials section.
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Post by: jc888888888 on June 28, 2016, 06:24:39 AM
very nice!
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Post by: moosician on June 29, 2016, 07:58:54 AM
Like to share pics of a set that ive recently got. Pics are not great though :blushing:
Gold mintage 3000
Silver mintage 10,000

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN3581_zpscifdekxe.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN3581_zpscifdekxe.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/DSCN3586_zpsc3b1r4dk.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/DSCN3586_zpsc3b1r4dk.jpg.html)

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/France%20China%202014%20set_zpsdzwvzt6n.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/France%20China%202014%20set_zpsdzwvzt6n.jpg.html)




And the Endangered wildlife 8g series  :001_smile:

(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/endangered%20wildlife%20set%201a_zpstbgudq6b.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/endangered%20wildlife%20set%201a_zpstbgudq6b.jpg.html)
(http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h39/guitarbug/endangered%20wildlife%20set%202_zpsh5ogiljz.jpg) (http://s60.photobucket.com/user/guitarbug/media/endangered%20wildlife%20set%202_zpsh5ogiljz.jpg.html)





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Post by: KeepOnTrying! on June 29, 2016, 10:29:47 AM
Looking great. Congratulations!  N31
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Post by: Mirkkanen on June 29, 2016, 06:14:41 PM
Picked this up from the post office today. Please help me confirm that it is a genuine coin!
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Post by: moosician on June 30, 2016, 01:14:50 AM
@KOT Thanks!

@Mirk Neat looking 83! Bet its a great score if its genuine. Looks genuine to me though.
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Post by: wg on June 30, 2016, 02:26:50 AM
 N66  N31

moosician

nice "france set",

but who did the sealing? :001_rolleyes:


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Post by: moosician on June 30, 2016, 08:40:24 AM

but who did the sealing? :001_rolleyes:


I dont know N2
Came this way from a dealer but the coins look pristine.
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Post by: Tao-Panda on June 30, 2016, 03:28:35 PM
Picked this up from the post office today. Please help me confirm that it is a genuine coin!

Appears genuine to me... in very good condition and pretty well struck !
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Post by: jc888888888 on July 21, 2016, 06:46:48 PM
so two new additions OLD NGC HOLDERS   QUESTION:the coins look nice would you leave them as is or send for conservation and new holders ..these coins have been in these holders quite a while  ?? opinions??
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Post by: jc888888888 on July 21, 2016, 06:48:24 PM
bad pic sorry coins are beautiful
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Post by: jc888888888 on July 21, 2016, 07:42:43 PM
looking for legitimate offers also
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Post by: Honus on July 22, 2016, 01:02:40 AM
so two new additions OLD NGC HOLDERS   QUESTION:the coins look nice would you leave them as is or send for conservation and new holders ..these coins have been in these holders quite a while  ?? opinions??


Leave them alone.  They're beautiful, they have MS69 grades, they don't look like they need any conservation, leave them alone.  No need to have anyone handle them - the safest place they can be is in the holders they're already in.  Not that NGC would play frisbee with them, but there's no need to mess with them - as they say, if it ain't broke...
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Post by: KeyDate1/2ozPandas on July 22, 2016, 01:11:07 AM
I would reholder them.  Most of my customer pay $30-$100 discount for non-edge view holders.  The cost to reholder is only $10 and there is no risk of downgrade.
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Post by: Honus on July 22, 2016, 01:39:21 AM
Don't forget shipping and insurance - thats $6K worth of pandas...S&I will run minimum $75 round trip.  With reholder fees you're at $95.   But I don't dislike the old holders - maybe I'm in the minority. 
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Post by: Mirkkanen on July 22, 2016, 02:16:33 AM
I would reholder them.  Most of my customer pay $30-$100 discount for non-edge view holders.  The cost to reholder is only $10 and there is no risk of downgrade.

Why no risk of downgrade? Couldn't they be reviewed and regraded at 68?
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Post by: KeyDate1/2ozPandas on July 22, 2016, 02:24:38 AM
If you choose just reholder, then no risk.  If you choose review then it could be downgraded, but you would be compensated for the difference.
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Post by: Mirkkanen on July 22, 2016, 02:42:19 AM
NGC will reholder a coin into a 69 slab at your request even if it doesn't appear to be a 69 coin by current standards? Interesting . . .
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Post by: jc888888888 on July 22, 2016, 07:01:07 AM
I am not concerned with downgrade the pictures I took stink :)   there is a 20% chance of upgrade on the 96 there both great 69,s
THANKS for the advise everyone.
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Post by: KeepOnTrying! on July 22, 2016, 10:13:27 AM
Postscript: Do you need to reholder such a slab if you don't plan to sell anytime soon?
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Post by: jc888888888 on July 22, 2016, 10:28:40 AM
they have probably been in those holders for more than 6 or 7 years judjing by the cert#,s   so no,  I am thinking about conservation and a possibility of a 70 on one of them.... :) i have no concerns of a downgrade the coins are really 69 plus
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Post by: Honus on July 22, 2016, 10:36:58 AM
Postscript: Do you need to reholder such a slab if you don't plan to sell anytime soon?

No, this is not about need.   The reasons to re-slab are aesthetics - you don't like the look of the holder - or you're hoping for an upgrade to MS70.   But from a functional standpoint, there's absolutely nothing wrong with those old holders.  They appear to be protecting the coins perfectly and doing exactly what they're supposed to do.   I understand the OP's question, and hoping to get an MS70 upgrade, but this is about hope & viewing pleasure.  These old holders are not like windshield wiper blades - they don't need to be changed out on a regular basis.   I hope people aren't getting that idea from this discussion.  
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Post by: silberschatzimsee on July 24, 2016, 08:52:03 AM
To grade or not to grade?? N16

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Post by: jc888888888 on July 24, 2016, 09:42:04 AM
cool !!! I would not..................too cool of a presentation a 70 probably does not add that much value ,a 69 might detract from value
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Post by: KeepOnTrying! on July 24, 2016, 09:46:52 AM
To grade or not to grade?? N16



Looking good!

It will be a pity to lose the ornate coin case because it cannot hold a slabbed coin. http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=11320.0

Perhaps the question is: Isn't it time the Mints start encapsulating these high value coins at source thereby saving owners the hassle of worrying about longterm coin surface protecting.

With regards to grading, I don't know. Suppose it grades less than, for example, PF68!
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Post by: jc888888888 on July 24, 2016, 09:51:15 AM
airtight capsules are probably as good of protection or at least very close to as good of protection as NGC slabs ,my understanding is the china mint stopped the use of pvc recently  ,but you never know about that for sure.
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Post by: silberschatzimsee on July 24, 2016, 03:42:30 PM
Ok thanks guys, then i will keep it like that. It would have been my first graded one since i am OMP-fan :001_smile:
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Post by: Birdman on July 25, 2016, 11:57:08 AM
I rolled the dice on a recent order and bought a raw coin from a big dealer.  With the run up in the 94 G1/4, I felt like I was protected on the downside, given my but price.  It arrived today.  With the exception of a few small red spots and a bit of haze in the fields (nothing NCS has had trouble with in the past), it looks fine.  I was fearing the worst (forehead rub, hairlines, etc.).  I forgot that tingle of intrigue in advance of sending coins in for grading.  I had pretty much sworn off omp over the past year or so, fearing that it is Resealed or a reject someone didn't think was worth sending in for grading.  Fingers crossed that it doesn't come back "Details".   I'd be happy with a ms68 for a master set.
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Post by: silverpv on July 25, 2016, 12:18:05 PM
wow.. that actually looks quite good.. i'd say 68/69. Could easily do a 69, but i could see why they would do a 68.
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Post by: SWA_Bart on July 25, 2016, 01:34:06 PM
Is that coin original sealed? It looks like resealed to me (look at the sealing edges).
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Post by: Birdman on July 25, 2016, 02:15:56 PM
Is that coin original sealed? It looks like resealed to me (look at the sealing edges).


It is in a plastic flip.  I knowingly purchased it as raw, non-omp.  Hence, the gamble.  It is in better condition than I expected, though.
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Post by: lonemao on August 25, 2016, 04:12:26 AM
Got this one in my recent submission to NCS/NGC:

1996 CHINA G25Y PANDA - LARGE DATE OBVERSE STRUCK THRU MINT ERROR MS 69

https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/3946466-011/

Not yet back to my hands.  Had a quick Google search and noted that this is fairly uncommon in gold pandas, esp. for larger sizes.
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Post by: dynamike51 on August 25, 2016, 08:48:36 AM
Got this one in my recent submission to NCS/NGC:

1996 CHINA G25Y PANDA - LARGE DATE OBVERSE STRUCK THRU MINT ERROR MS 69

https://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/3946466-011/

Not yet back to my hands.  Had a quick Google search and noted that this is fairly uncommon in gold pandas, esp. for larger sizes.


Congrats, lonemao.    N31
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Post by: moosician on August 25, 2016, 09:14:02 AM
Very nice! Bet it will sell for a big premium i suppose?
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Post by: 1668Chris on August 25, 2016, 10:04:35 AM
Strike thrus typically represent something left on the die that is imbedded onto the coins surface.  Probably due to poor environment in the room.  While it may appear as a scratch to an untrained eye it is not.  Not sure if it has any premium value unless you find someone collecting error coins. 
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Post by: KeyDate1/2ozPandas on August 25, 2016, 10:18:32 AM
Strike thrus are very common for shenyang gold pandas, I have seen 100s of them, and it is due to dirty factory conditions as Chris points out.  What is not obvious is what is the minimum length of the defect that constitutes a classification by NGC.  I typically don't submit strike thrus because I don't like the eye appeal of the coin and wouldn't want to sell it to a collector that will consider it a scratch. 

I am sure someone that wants an unusual classification will pay a some premium for it.
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Post by: lonemao on August 25, 2016, 11:08:57 AM
Thanks for all the input.

Below is quoted from this old NGC article: https://www.ngccoin.com/news/article/1115/

"The occurrence of struck thrus on circulating coinage is not rare, and minor examples are fairly common. Although these coins may not have been manufactured "perfectly," the reality is that the mint does not hold these coins back from circulation. Most of these “minor flaws” will never be noticed by the general public and once circulated they become even less apparent. For this reason, NGC does not certify minor struck thrus as being mint errors if they are minor and therefore acceptable within mint tolerances."

So like what Arif said, there's apparently a tolerance level set by NGC to constitute a classification.  So this may explain why gold pandas with struck thru classification is not that commonly seen although actually struck thrus can be quite common: If the struck thru is small, NGC will treat it like other defects and if the struck thru is large, people may think it is a large scratch and avoid sending it for grading (also the QC of the mint will spot that).

To me, I was simply unaware of this mark when I submitted..... N27
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Post by: Birdman on August 29, 2016, 05:49:09 PM
I haven't had much to share recently, as I hadn't found many tempting buys.  But, I was sufficiently tempted on this package that came today.   N47

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Post by: dennisma77 on August 29, 2016, 11:08:41 PM
this is the interesting one coming back from NGC.
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Post by: KeepOnTrying! on August 29, 2016, 11:59:27 PM
this is the interesting one coming back from NGC.


Congratulations. Excellent grade for this coin!  N31
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Post by: tater on August 31, 2016, 06:18:54 PM
Nothing like walking into the LCS and seeing these three 1996 unicorns on the self with all of the world silver and after talking to the guy he mentions that he as ten more in the back.  I thought the price was fair and now I am left with wondering what to do with them.  Send them in to NGC or storage with the bears to keep them company.  These are my first unicorns and to be honest I don;t know much about them.
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Post by: jc888888888 on September 01, 2016, 06:39:37 AM
5y  back in 2010 the 1996 5y  uni   you could buy sheets pretty easily ,not so today ,nice find !!since the coins are capsuled I would keep as is if they where mine
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Post by: SANDAC on September 01, 2016, 08:38:49 AM
Look for varieties.  The 1994 unicorn have many text shifted varieties.  The distribution of varieties varys significant depend on where the coins are purchased, i.e., coins from China has different mix of varieties than that of Europe or US.  I have not look at the 1996 unicorn, so there may be varieties there.
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Post by: tater on September 01, 2016, 05:28:29 PM
The sheet is all 1997's I believe and the three loose ones were 1996.  Any varieties on the 97's?
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Post by: tater on September 01, 2016, 05:32:22 PM
I went to the big City today for lunch and a meeting and stopped off at a LCS that really is more of a bullion shop.  I was surprised he had several 1 oz gold pandas all from 86-90 other than this beauty.  Sorry for poor cell phone photos.

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Post by: dennisma77 on September 01, 2016, 09:18:05 PM
I went to the big City today for lunch and a meeting and stopped off at a LCS that really is more of a bullion shop.  I was surprised he had several 1 oz gold pandas all from 86-90 other than this beauty.  Sorry for poor cell phone photos.



How much does the LCS guy want for the 2003 gold panda?
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Post by: tater on September 02, 2016, 09:50:50 AM
How much does the LCS guy want for the 2003 gold panda?

He only had the one 2003 the others were either 86-90 and one 1/10 oz 2009. The 2003 1 oz was a $100 over spot.
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Post by: dennisma77 on September 02, 2016, 08:02:35 PM
He only had the one 2003 the others were either 86-90 and one 1/10 oz 2009. The 2003 1 oz was a $100 over spot.

Thanks for sharing. 2003 panda has rarities. Can someone tell which variety is it?
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Post by: UniqueCoins on September 02, 2016, 10:05:44 PM
Bad picture, but should be mirrored.
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Post by: tater on September 02, 2016, 10:30:21 PM
I believe it is mirrored.  I need to get some better pics that are not from a cell phone from the inside of my pickup out in the parking lot of the store.
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Post by: jc888888888 on September 13, 2016, 06:49:00 PM
Looked for this one for a long time:) super happy about the grade ...  11,000 mintage


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Post by: Birdman on September 13, 2016, 07:08:12 PM
Nice.  I don't think I've ever seen that coin.  And you have a MS70  N31
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Post by: jc888888888 on September 13, 2016, 07:34:12 PM
thanks ,I have been collecting a pretty long time ..I have only seen one for sale twice  ..it didn't get away the second time :)   low population graded, but struck well  pretty high percentage of pf 70 for an older proof
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Post by: Tao-Panda on September 14, 2016, 02:20:35 PM
Congrats, Joe !
Nice coin.
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Post by: Birdman on September 21, 2016, 08:48:03 PM
Added a slightly different flavor to my collection.  A bit off the beaten path.
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Post by: Russ 736 on September 21, 2016, 09:36:56 PM
Very nice coin. Congratulations of getting a 70.

Russ
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Post by: silverpv on September 22, 2016, 01:00:34 AM
Very cool 2008!
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Post by: PandaQuest on January 03, 2017, 04:57:50 PM
My first Gold Panda 70 from my personal submission! Population 3 including mine!   :w00t: :biggrin: N4
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Post by: Birdman on January 03, 2017, 05:30:07 PM
My first Gold Panda 70 from my personal submission! Population 3 including mine!   :w00t: :biggrin: N4

Oh what a feeling.  Congrats!
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Post by: Mirkkanen on January 03, 2017, 05:50:21 PM
Wowowowowow.

Congrats. Too bad it is a common date. I'll trade you for it :)
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Post by: moosician on January 04, 2017, 10:57:38 AM
Niceee... Congrats!
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Post by: tater on January 14, 2017, 12:35:34 AM
I picked this up today at a local shop.  Sure it's got a small copper spot that's not as dark as this poor photo shows the price was right even for bullion so I couldn't resist. 
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Post by: tater on February 01, 2017, 09:35:13 AM
I had a good week. First at my local coin show this weekend I found this gilded 1999 panda with the original box and coa.  I love this coin and it's making me think about doing a short set of the gilded and bi-metal pandas.
Second while I was in the big city I stopped by a shop that specializes in bullion. Thry had three half ounce pandas I left the 2013's as I didn't have enough cash and picked up this 2005.  Now I need help in deciding if I keep it in the omp or send it to ncs and ngc.

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Post by: tater on February 01, 2017, 09:35:58 AM
Here is the gold bear.
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Post by: Devlin on February 01, 2017, 08:34:51 PM
I stopped by one of my local shops to see if they had anything and I ended up coming home with ten of the 1986 Empress of China coin.

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/ship2_zpsbskgprch.jpg)

(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g44/stpeteaustin/ship_zpsnrxgllz5.jpg)

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Post by: Vredaren on February 02, 2017, 02:55:27 AM
That seems like a nice pickup, depending on the price of course - nice that they all came with the boxes!
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Post by: tater on February 02, 2017, 10:10:55 AM
you don't find them in the boxes very often my local shop had six of them awhile back but they were all raw.
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Post by: Jotun on March 04, 2017, 10:07:19 AM
With original boxes and coas.
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Post by: KeepOnTrying! on March 04, 2017, 04:38:44 PM
Looking good.

Congrats.

Is that a face rub on the kilo panda forehead or on the plastic coin container?

Best wishes.
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Post by: Jotun on March 04, 2017, 06:38:13 PM
Looking good.

Congrats.

Is that a face rub on the kilo panda forehead or on the plastic coin container?

Best wishes.

Thanks. It looks like dark toning on the coin, although there might be some rubbing as well. Not quite sure, need to check with hand lense again later.

Saw it in an auction locally and just had to get it. I have full set in gold this years and now need 5oz and 1oz in silver. Love the desing, my favorite.

Cheers
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Post by: KeepOnTrying! on March 05, 2017, 01:01:28 PM
Yes, I agree; a full set will look great. I am tempted!  N8

Good luck.
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Post by: OneStepAhead on March 07, 2017, 03:40:04 PM
Really liked this Panda / Rooster Mint Medal (and its a small issue of 99 pieces) so I bought one!

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Post by: tater on April 24, 2017, 09:37:56 PM
I think I got a fair deal on this from my local coin shop.
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Post by: 1668Chris on April 28, 2017, 05:53:19 PM
Here is my latest....not easy to come by:

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Post by: ccl on April 28, 2017, 05:58:20 PM
 N31 nice piece
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Post by: jc888888888 on April 29, 2017, 07:09:03 AM
nice,I have been looking for a long time:)
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Post by: tater on April 29, 2017, 01:52:52 PM
Ran I to some silver this week. What's a 10 yuan snow leopard I think it was and what do they run?
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Post by: panda88 on July 13, 2017, 07:46:59 PM
Here my 1984 China 1oz silver Panda 3rd Hong Kong Expo NGC PF70UC
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Post by: panda88 on July 13, 2017, 07:47:58 PM
Front
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Post by: ccl on July 13, 2017, 07:59:23 PM
 :thumbup1:
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Post by: jc888888888 on July 13, 2017, 08:11:30 PM
Wow  extremely rare to see that medal in pf70    pretty pretty!!!!  congrats on that!!  beautiful :)  a pf 69 is actually hard to obtain as the panda forehead always has rubs....
is that population 1??
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Post by: panda88 on July 13, 2017, 08:15:06 PM
POP 2
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Post by: KeepOnTrying! on July 13, 2017, 09:17:19 PM
Here my 1984 China 1oz silver Panda 3rd Hong Kong Expo NGC PF70UC

My Oh My!  :w00t:

Congrats on that one.  N43

Please keep safe in double Intercept bags etc.

Best wishes.  N31
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Post by: dynamike51 on July 14, 2017, 02:46:21 AM
POP 2

 N31 N31     N39
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Post by: pandamonium on July 14, 2017, 08:09:28 AM
Very rare and outstanding silver panda.....wow.....1st yr of HK Expo....
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Post by: Polkrich on July 31, 2017, 09:13:35 AM
For me as a member who´s interested in maritime warfare I´m very proud of this coin.
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Post by: Polkrich on July 31, 2017, 09:18:38 AM
Proud to have this coin series. Worlds famous cultural figures, 4th. 1994, very rare
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Post by: Birdman on October 18, 2017, 07:16:24 PM
I just splurged a bit.  Using the Best Offer, and taking advantage of 8% eBay bucks, I got this 1983 G1/4 NGC MS70 for net $856.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/263266016440

It is true that the 1983 is not a rare coin, but I have a fondness for the MS70 of these 1980s coins that have been handled for 30+ years in hardening PVC pouches that degrade condition.  It is a pop 8 of 701.  About 1% or so grade MS70.

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Post by: KeyDate1/2ozPandas on October 19, 2017, 01:37:21 AM
I got offer from ebay 8% on buys and sells, so I can sell on ebay for the same prices as website for the next 10 days. Ebay is great.
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Post by: jc888888888 on October 19, 2017, 07:26:01 AM
Absolutely Unbelievable:)     NGCcoin.com/Hercules
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Post by: KeyDate1/2ozPandas on October 19, 2017, 10:28:35 AM
Looks like a lot of coins weren't conserved, unless the pics are of the coins before conservation.  Amazing collection.  12 10x10 safe deposit boxes, that is $1000-$1500/year in storage fees.
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Post by: Birdman on October 21, 2017, 02:27:12 PM
I just splurged a bit.  Using the Best Offer, and taking advantage of 8% eBay bucks, I got this 1983 G1/4 NGC MS70 for net $856.  https://www.ebay.com/itm/263266016440

It is true that the 1983 is not a rare coin, but I have a fondness for the MS70 of these 1980s coins that have been handled for 30+ years in hardening PVC pouches that degrade condition.  It is a pop 8 of 701.  About 1% or so grade MS70.

Upon receiving the coin, I am disappointed to see that the coin has a red spot on the both the back and the front.  This was not mentioned in the description (and not visible when I checked the NGC archive photos for the cert #), but I can now see one of the red spots when I look at the fourth photo on ebay.  I guess I've done too many deals with folks who would never think of selling an MS70 that has multiple red spots without very clear disclosure, that I've did not carefully look at all of the photos.  My mistake, and perhaps a good reminder for other forum members to carefully check photos and assume nothing.

Moderate good news.  When I pointed out the condition issues, the seller said he would accept a return or would compensate for NCS (he said $50) to address the red spots.

I am torn.  I don't see a 1983 G1/4 MS70 for sale that frequently, so I'm tempted to keep it and to send it to be conserved (a hassle), but I don't know if NGC will conserve an MS70 with red spots and guarantee that it won't be downgraded to an MS69.  Anyone have some experience with this?  I'm trying to weight the pros and cons.
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Post by: Mirkkanen on October 21, 2017, 02:37:02 PM
At one point, I sold an MS70 coin to a friend of mine who is the tenth ounce collector and it had a red spot. Because of the lighting in the room I was viewing the coin in, I could not see the red spot, but upon receipt of the coin in different lighting conditions he was able to see something that he didn't like. Here is what he wrote to me:

"They didn't take it off, still there.. they said it was fine and I didn't get a chance to send it back in. I sent it for grading check."

"NGC said it was still ms70... and didn't do anything with it and sent it back"
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Post by: KeepOnTrying! on October 21, 2017, 03:23:20 PM
Upon receiving the coin, I am disappointed to see that the coin has a red spot on the both the back and the front.  This was not mentioned in the description (and not visible when I checked the NGC archive photos for the cert #), but I can now see one of the red spots when I look at the fourth photo on ebay.  I guess I've done too many deals with folks who would never think of selling an MS70 that has multiple red spots without very clear disclosure, that I've did not carefully look at all of the photos.  My mistake, and perhaps a good reminder for other forum members to carefully check photos and assume nothing.

Moderate good news.  When I pointed out the condition issues, the seller said he would accept a return or would compensate for NCS (he said $50) to address the red spots.

I am torn.  I don't see a 1983 G1/4 MS70 for sale that frequently, so I'm tempted to keep it and to send it to be conserved (a hassle), but I don't know if NGC will conserve an MS70 with red spots and guarantee that it won't be downgraded to an MS69.  Anyone have some experience with this?  I'm trying to weight the pros and cons.

Once NCS conserves it all bets are off. You probably will not get less than MS69 but NGC can be finicky with their MS70 grade allocation. Its going to be a crapshoot. My opinion would be to send it back to the seller. It is possible the seller knew of the red spots. The seller can send it to NCS and resell to you if it comes back MS70!!!!
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Post by: pandamonium on October 21, 2017, 03:44:21 PM
IF it is rare then why not keep it?     Freckles are not that bad (or red spots)........   I refuse to buy a microscope as it will drive me crazy looking at the imperfections so my mag/glass/w light is all i got......
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Post by: KeepOnTrying! on October 21, 2017, 04:35:27 PM
IF it is rare then why not keep it?     Freckles are not that bad (or red spots)........   I refuse to buy a microscope as it will drive me crazy looking at the imperfections so my mag/glass/w light is all i got......

Problem is that few will buy a "freckled" MS70 at the price they would pay for a non-freckled MS70.
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Post by: pandamonium on October 21, 2017, 05:54:58 PM
Oops, i forgot to mention.   Arif has warned us that supply is very small.    As the Petro Yuan makes the news, it is a matter of time for more buyers to enter into this market further reducing supply.     A few years ago when the market was hot, dealers like Rare Coin Collectors and another got inventory wiped out overnight.     RCC has not recovered as they have few Chinese listings since the big buy.       As supply dwindles then a freckle 70 will be OK.      I am thinking ahead of the market again.......
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Post by: Mirkkanen on October 21, 2017, 09:58:29 PM
I would take the sellers offer $50 and keep the coin. If the NGC graders are of sound mind at the time you submit it, they will grade it at 70 again after it goes through NCS. And isn't there some sort of guarantee against a grade dropping?
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Post by: KeyDate1/2ozPandas on October 22, 2017, 12:12:44 AM
A MS70 coin with red spot is will be very hard to sell and it may even get worse. 

Good chance NGC wont downgrade it, but no guarantee they will remove the red spot either if they think there is chance of down grade if they conserve it. 

I would return it and let the seller get it conserved and then sell it to you.
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Post by: bullionblog.eu on October 22, 2017, 06:02:55 AM
Some recent additions to my stack:

2017 - CHINA - 40mm - SINO-GERMAN FRIENDSHIP PANDA - HIGH RELIEF - BRASS - PF 70 ULTRA CAMEO
2017 - CHINA 1oz - SINO-GERMAN FRIENDSHIP PANDA - HIGH RELIEF - SILVER - PF 70 ULTRA CAMEO
2016 - CHINA 45mm - PANDA - TEMPLE OF HEAVEN PANDA - BR OBV-CU REV - BI-MET - PF 69 ULTRA CAMEO
2016Y - CHINA - 1oz - VALENTINE BAMBOO PANDA - PF 69 ULTRA CAMEO
2015 - CHINA - 2oz - MACAU SHOW OFFICIAL PANDA ISSUE #1500 - SILVER - PF 69 ULTRA CAMEO
1989Y - CHINA - 1oz - HONG KONG EXPOSITION OFFICIAL PANDA ISSUE - PF 69 ULTRA CAMEO
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Post by: Polkrich on November 01, 2017, 09:19:00 AM
45th chinese aviation industry 1996, 20k mintage, original sealed
100th university of Tsinghua
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Post by: Mirkkanen on November 01, 2017, 09:43:28 AM
 Congrats, fine looking bears, and aeroplanes.
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Post by: Birdman on November 28, 2017, 05:28:45 PM
I reached across the Pacific Ocean to get a gold panda that we don't see in the coin shops in the US.  A 2000 G25Y mirror.  Moosician offered it at a fair price and there was no problem in shipping.  Thanks Moosician!  Now if I can just find a nice 2000 G50Y mirror at a good price or attractive trade, then my collections would be in nice shape.
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Post by: Mirkkanen on November 28, 2017, 05:39:16 PM
I visited Malaysia and Moosician was a very gracious host and an excellent tour guide. I really enjoyed my time there. I've done business with him here on CCF through trades and such a number of times now. I consider him a trusted friend. Glad to hear you had no problems with shipping.
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Post by: KeepOnTrying! on November 29, 2017, 12:38:26 AM
I reached across the Pacific Ocean to get a gold panda that we don't see in the coin shops in the US.  A 2000 G25Y mirror.  Moosician offered it at a fair price and there was no problem in shipping.  Thanks Moosician!  Now if I can just find a nice 2000 G50Y mirror at a good price or attractive trade, then my collections would be in nice shape.

This is painstaking work. Bravo!
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Post by: r3globe on December 09, 2017, 05:44:53 PM
I picked up 2 2002 1/10 Gold pandas in 14K rings for around a $1000. Good buy or not so much?!!
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Post by: KeyDate1/2ozPandas on December 09, 2017, 06:08:59 PM
Depends on the melt value of the rings, the coins combined will be tough to yield above $550. 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chinese-Panda-Gold-Coin-2002-50-999-au-/263272288159

Grades below ms67 are very tough to sell right now with master set demand dormant.   Also coins 1983-1993 and 2000- in low grades are the the toughest to sell.   I stopped buying anything below ms67 above altogether after taking a few tiny losses. 
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Post by: r3globe on December 09, 2017, 06:32:06 PM
Depends on the melt value of the rings, the coins combined will be tough to yield above $550. 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Chinese-Panda-Gold-Coin-2002-50-999-au-/263272288159

Grades below ms67 are very tough to sell right now with master set demand dormant.   Also coins 1983-1993 and 2000- in low grades are the the toughest to sell.   I stopped buying anything below ms67 above altogether after taking a few tiny losses. 

The coins are definitely below 67. Melt value is probably around $375-$400. Thanks Arif for your input.
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Post by: UniqueCoins on December 14, 2017, 01:55:34 PM
Basel Panda Gold Variety
Munich Panda 1995
Inventions&Discoveries 1994

Hope you enjoy the nice coins  :001_wub:
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Post by: Vredaren on January 05, 2018, 09:56:24 AM
Beautiful coins, no doubt, and nice 70! Congratulations.
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Post by: Barclay_boy on April 02, 2018, 06:10:35 AM
I have 5 of these coins. They seem to be reproductions of the Fatman dollar coin but beyond that I know very little. They were given to me by a China based supplier.

Any advice or information would be welcomed and interested if they are worth anything and how I'd go about selling them if they are.
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Post by: pandamonium on July 22, 2018, 12:19:03 AM
I was told China Mint is coming out w/ a Martial Arts coin set.....