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Also your website is not up to date for your upcoming auction and I cannot find it on liveauctioneers.  This is not a good thing if you are trying to maximize participation.  I have very little patience especially since Stacks and Heritage are very easy to navigate.
only 1000 sets were produced and 800 sets were sent to Germany and 700 to the Chinese Embassy for distribution...

Doesn't add up, 1000 sets produced, yet 1500 distributed. 
Very impressive results, with my first submission I also got a few very sought after MS70's, but since then have yet to receive the elusive 70-grade again, cherish the feeling, it's a great one!
Testing / Re: mini test
« Last post by mook on Today at 10:49:02 AM »
 N31 Beautiful collection
1990 sd 69, very very hard to find
A pair of 1 ounce Silver panda medal, featuring the official logo of the 45th anniversary of the establishment of diplomatic relations between the People’s Republic of China and the Federal Republic of Germany, designed by two ‘Krause Lifetime Achievement’ award winners Yu Min and Heinz Hoyer just released!

They both have mintage of 3,000 pieces and come with certificates inside a prestigious box.

All orders taken before August 4th will be included in a lottery for the special Yu Min brass and Hoyer brass silver plate two piece set, only 1000 sets were produced and 800 sets were sent to Germany and 700 to the Chinese Embassy for distribution to the Chinese delegation and German VIPs for the opening of the Panda Gardens. The Yu Min brass was produced using ultra high relief and special laser engraving on a piedfort coin blank. The two piece brass sets are not for sale. A live drawing of three 2 piece brass sets and three Yu Min brass piedfort will be held on Friday August 5th at 2pm at table 956.

You can purchase the Silver panda medal sets for 180 USD at Table 956 at the ANA show in Denver this August 1~5, or Estate Coin & Jewelry Galleria, LLC (Add: 1650 main street Sarasota FL 34236).
We are now accepting pre-orders .

Tel: (+1) 941-952-0100   E-mail:

(For European order please visit Künker online shop €159/set)

*2017 Champion Summer Auction will be held at Hyatt Hotel in Hong Kong, August 20th, from 10 A.M. to 5 A.M.

Lot 417-449 features high-graded rare coins designed by Shanghai Mint Senior designer Yu Min. This is a great opportunity you can never miss. *
Shanghai Mint Senior Designer Yu Min
China’s Shanghai Mint Senior Designer Yu Min has participated in the entire development process of gold and silver pandas as a designer and engraver since the first gold panda coin was issued in 1982. His 1983 silver panda won the Krause Publication “Best Silver Coin Award” in 1985. He has designed and engraved more than 20 commemorative panda coins, including recently the 2005, 2006, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2012 and 2013 gold and silver commemorative panda coins. In 2017 Yu Min will received the Life time achievement award from Krause Publication at the Coin of the Year Award Ceremony in Berlin, the first Asian designer to receive this great honor.

Highlighted Coin:
CHINA-ANA 2016 ANA World's Fair of Money Anaheim 31.104g (1 Oz) .999 Gold Proof, Commemorative Panda, 40mm, Coin Number 77, Mintage 125, NGC PF69 ULTRA CAMEO  (see picture below)

Sold. Thank you Garry.
$395 shipped. Have a look at the photos these are very clean no toning. One of the capsules busted off a small piece of it , it is inside the sealed package.

Deduct 3% for paypal F&F. USA shipping for free.
Modern Chinese Coins / Re: Guessing the NEXT Trend
« Last post by pandamonium on Yesterday at 09:29:36 PM »
Pricepedia May & June mentioned vintage Chinese coin demand was good.     I keep track of segments of the market and post some info on badon's site.    I do not own Mr Sun's book and know very little about Empire small silver dragons but here goes.   Keep in mind there were many minted but only a tiny pop are UNC, high grade or Mint State......
May 19   Ebay 391782158289   Empire small silver 1st yr.   1890-1908 20 C   MS 63  Kwangtung silver dragon   $116.50  Sold
Since then sales prices doubled, then almost tripled.    Asking prices today on ebay are almost triple, see APMEX or ebay search.     (However July 4th saw a usual holiday fire sale as the buyers were celebrating or too tipsy to bid)....
The 1911 50 C  MS  Yunnan silver dragons are seeing few listed on ebay and selling well.    Last one was priced at $199 for MS 61 and it sold in a few days (week?).
Many other Empire small silver dragons are priced much higher but these are the main 2 i track as they are affordable for new collectors or to those that want to dip their toes in the Empire market.     Many fakes so buy graded..
I think Empire silver dragons could have a strong upcoming demand.     

Also this 1979 Archaeological 12 piece silver set sold on ebay 391838707160  for  $1,100 recently.     See photo of similar set.    About 2 yrs ago a set sold early on ebay for $500.    A dealer in China sold a set, same time frame, for $550.    Rarely seen set and getting popular.....

MCC are still flat and some have dropped in price such as the 96 PF 69 Proof silver panda for about $223!...

Modern Chinese Coins / Guessing the NEXT Trend
« Last post by Mirkkanen on Yesterday at 02:31:08 PM »
For simplicity, I will stick to the gold panda master set phenomenon in these opening paragraphs  . . . .

For a while 1995 and 1998 have been considered the key dates for most gold panda denominations. They had early price rises to reflect this. 1982, 1994, 1999, and 2000 have been considered semi-key and their prices have risen accordingly.

Then, in the push(es) upwards betweens 2011-2015, most 90s dates got a lift . . . 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, and 1997 went up in price, and some post 2000 dates did as well: 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2010.

Most recently, some previously unloved dates got their push higher  . . . 1996, 1997, 2005 and 2009 are four dates that come to mind.

So, what is left to run?
1982, 1990, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994, 1995, 1996, 1997, 1998, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007,
2008, 2009, 2010

It seems to me that the dates that haven't really taken off yet are some 80s dates and the post-2010s. Both groups have such high mintages that I don't expect them to move much during the next wave. Do you?

Master sets have not resulted in an increased interest in rare varieties or date types. In fact, master set demand has really upset the variety collecting trend since lesser valued date types have been sold off in great numbers, thus possibly evening the playing field between them and their previously less common counterparts. Are rare varieties the next subset to realize price gains?

Lunars had their run. Unicorns had a run as well. Silver pandas were valued much higher when silver was striding toward $50usd. At that time, cultural coins also brought much more robust prices. So, what comes next?

Anyone placing their bets on a specific aspect of the market and care to share?
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