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China Imperial & Republic / Re: 1911 China coin to see is to believe
« Last post by linlaujiou on Today at 06:53:41 AM »
論壇首發….1907丁未壹圓樣幣兩版與1908造幣總廠七錢二分……龍家族共同暗記真相揭密…
1.   相同造幣廠前後期設計製造的系列錢幣.防偽巧思與暗記佈局通常具有沿用的慣性.應是考量不搞複雜及易於統一辨偽.
2.   玩藏錢幣化繁為簡.就是要尋出同系列錢幣家族的特徵規律性..方便於尋真探真..
3.   1907丁未壹圓不同版樣幣在字面.龍面皆設有蝕刻共同暗記.1908造幣總廠沿用丁未壹圓龍圖..同時沿用了大部分的暗記佈局.甚至嚴謹如馬齒特徵亦極度相似.兩幣種最明顯差異在丁未壹圓龍眼附近有一道蝕刻切線造成破相.猜想就是丁未壹圓樣幣未能發行流通的原因.1908造幣總廠發行流通時就少了這道龍眼旁蝕刻切線.附圖一因左側採光拍攝未能顯現這道蝕刻切線....俺是故意的..給看垂直線…
4.   真幣查有不對稱圖文.及人為刻意的瑕疵暗記.蝕刻暗記多數是以非直線及不斷透的原則呈現.明示刻意人為…宣統三年長鬚龍亦如此...這就是所謂防偽設計的智商成分.
5.   1907丁未壹圓.1908造幣總廠兩幣種..在假幣入盒的衝擊下…全中國找不出幾枚真幣….事實就是如此…..歡迎有心人驗證..
6.   附圖一3枚造總龍截圖皆不同版.共同暗記知多少?..…
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General Discussion / Re: China and Chinese Numismatics
« Last post by KeepOnTrying! on Today at 12:59:51 AM »
I quoted the China Daily precisely because it is government owned, as are all the official mints. The mints will always, always follow the direction of the Party as reflected by the China Daily. You may be aware of this already. The China Daily can provide insights for the rest of the world to understand events, too.

Some of the numismatically-connected people who rumor suggests may be involved are people I have met. Over time I have grown to believe that, overall, their actions have not been beneficial to collectors and the numismatic community. So the changes that I have heard about so far do not seem arbitrary or misguided. That said, this is an area where little is ever confirmed.

Unfortunately, a majority of younger generation do not care about coin collecting. They hardly even use coins in their daily life any more.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
China Pricepedia
The Gold & Silver Panda Coin Buyer’s Guide 3
www.pandacollector.com

I am not that pessimistic because “collecting” is a human trait; they will eventually come around to it in their own particular way. The only problem is what shape the narcissist baby boomers leave the whole field in, because they have always been resource hungry to the exclusion of others.

But those shiny metals have an age old allure that will eventually attract the young bucks’ currently defocussed gaze.
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General Discussion / Re: China and Chinese Numismatics
« Last post by PandaCollector on Yesterday at 11:22:15 PM »
You are quoting of China Daily, a publication owned by Chinese Communist Party. It may not represent the view of ordinary Chinese. 10-20 years from now, we will find out if the anti-corruption activities are real or just political purging of competitive section of the communist party. Majority of younger generation do not care about what is going on with the Government.


I quoted the China Daily precisely because it is government owned, as are all the official mints. The mints will always, always follow the direction of the Party as reflected by the China Daily. You may be aware of this already. The China Daily can provide insights for the rest of the world to understand events, too.

Some of the numismatically-connected people who rumor suggests may be involved are people I have met. Over time I have grown to believe that, overall, their actions have not been beneficial to collectors and the numismatic community. So the changes that I have heard about so far do not seem arbitrary or misguided. That said, this is an area where little is ever confirmed.

Unfortunately, a majority of younger generation do not care about coin collecting. They hardly even use coins in their daily life any more.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
China Pricepedia
The Gold & Silver Panda Coin Buyer’s Guide 3
www.pandacollector.com
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Modern Chinese Coins / Re: What's on your shelf?
« Last post by mcc168 on Yesterday at 09:41:02 PM »
Thank you poconopenn for your support.  Thank you GoldenLord for your purchase, Thank you wg for your kind word and support. And Thank you 1668Chris for your purchase too. Happy holidays to all!
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I like it
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Modern Chinese Coins / Re: What's on your shelf?
« Last post by KeepOnTrying! on Yesterday at 07:14:22 PM »
Mcc168

Thanks for the book. This is an excellent book, very informative with many background information about the earlier MCC as well as the name of designer and engraver for all MCC.  Just like any subscription of stock analysis, you have to pay extra for advanced copy, since time is money. IMO, you have provided a valuable service to let MCC collectors to aware about the new book and nothing to apologize.

Good to read this; validates the prior move to compile a database of such information in our forum archives: http://china-mint.info/forum/index.php?topic=11512.0
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Modern Chinese Coins / Re: What's on your shelf?
« Last post by poconopenn on Yesterday at 05:43:15 PM »
Mcc168

Thanks for the book. This is an excellent book, very informative with many background information about the earlier MCC as well as the name of designer and engraver for all MCC.  Just like any subscription of stock analysis, you have to pay extra for advanced copy, since time is money. IMO, you have provided a valuable service to let MCC collectors to aware about the new book and nothing to apologize.
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General Discussion / Re: China and Chinese Numismatics
« Last post by poconopenn on Yesterday at 05:36:14 PM »
Cheap electricity next to hydro dams in China makes mining bitcoins very profitables.

Getting people to talk about bitcoins in China is like asking a professional in US if they are going to vote for Trump before the election or asking a senior at bingo night what they think about bitcoin, either they don't want to admit owning a product that government and banks are trying to crush out of existence or they have no clue.  Go to Korea where freedom of speech is more protected and you will hear many talk about bitcoins.  I feeling is bitcoin is underground movement in China and talking about it implies gambling, illegal activities and desire of freedom from government hand.

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Most bitcoin transactions are done in Asia, especially in those countries with corrupted government and business practices, such as China, South Korea, Indonesia, Thailand and Japan, since the transactions are not traceable.
 
Here is an article from New York Times, dated 9/13/2017, about one of the largest Bitcoin farm in the world, located in China. China has not banned the transaction of Bitcoin, but has indefinitely suspended the operation of Exchanges.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/09/13/business/bitcoin-mine-china.html

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General Discussion / Re: China and Chinese Numismatics
« Last post by poconopenn on Yesterday at 05:20:41 PM »
To understand what is happening in Chinese numismatics it might be useful to understand serious, positive developments in China. These changes reach down from the general secretary to every corner of the country, including coin and medal production. In that spirit, the following is from today's front page of the China Daily:

"Xi: Uproot undesirable work styles"

"Fight to continue against hedonism, extravagance and other misconduct"

"Xi Jinping, general secretary of the Communist Party of China Central Committee stressed that the fight against undesirable work styles should not be stopped...The new forms of misconduct are, in their nature, old problems said Xi... "The...work to improve the Party's conduct and work styles should never end."

In other news:

Former Chongqing political official facing corruption investigation

"Sun Zhengcai, the former secretary of Chongqing Municipal Committee of the Communist Party of China, has been placed under investigation on suspicion of accepting bribes...According to the procurator ate, Sun has been placed under "coercive measures," which may include summons by force, bail, residential surveillance, detention and arrest.

The investigation is underway, the procurotate said in a statement released on Monday...he abused power and used his job to gain benefits for others, then accepted their huge bribes in return, either paid in cash or property, the CCDI said. He was found to seek substantial benefits for his relatives' businesses and accepted valuable gifts."

This is intended to offer a background for occasional numismatic-related events. I hope any responses will be confined to coin-related subjects.

Best wishes,
Peter Anthony
China Pricepedia
The Gold & Silver Panda Coin Buyer’s Guide 3
www.pandacollector.com

You are quoting of China Daily, a publication owned by Chinese Communist Party. It may not represent the view of ordinary Chinese. 10-20 years from now, we will find out if the anti-corruption activities are real or just political purging of competitive section of the communist party. Majority of younger generation do not care about what is going on with the Government.
 
Coin collecting is one of the longest hobbies in the world and will not be affected by the policy change of the government. During last few years, I did see China Mint issued more commemorative MCC related to the communist party vs. pre-2010 MCC.

Most culture revolution stamps are very valuable. IMO, the current anti-corruption activities inside China is a mini-culture revolution. 
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Next year is the 47. World Money Fair Berlin with over 15.000 Visitiors.
They wrote its the largest Coin Show in the World.

Its open from 2nd February - 4th February 2018.

https://www.worldmoneyfair.de/wmf/en/

Interesting is the 13th Kuenker (www.kuenker.de) Berlin Auction.
This Auction starts and ends on 1st February 2018.

There are two Sets from China and the very seldom 12 Oz Munich Panda OMP 1997 for a low 4000€ Start Bid.

https://issuu.com/kuenkercoins/docs/kuenker302 - Site 199
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