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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #45 on: August 01, 2014, 09:58:53 PM »
the ox is pretty highly faked because of the high value ,i bought a fake 2009 color ox  and did not know till it came back from NGC as counterfeit......very convincing    oh mini hoard of color   

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #46 on: August 01, 2014, 10:01:26 PM »
Would you willing to show hi-res side-by-side pictures of the fake and real ox for educational purpose?  I completely understand if you do not want to.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #47 on: August 02, 2014, 02:44:26 AM »
Very nice
I love that you have the CoA's

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #48 on: August 02, 2014, 05:16:22 AM »
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..side-by-side pictures of the fake and real ...

tiger ... but fake ox is similar.

the fakes are slightly thicker and weigh about 31.3 oz

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #49 on: August 02, 2014, 06:26:17 AM »
Would you willing to show hi-res side-by-side pictures of the fake and real ox for educational purpose?  I completely understand if you do not want to.
Dont have it any longer I bought it from someone in Europe, the seller stood behind it when he found out it was fake and took it back,I should have took some photo,s but i didnt sorry

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #50 on: August 02, 2014, 06:50:10 AM »
thanks WG , those tiger pictures tell the story as to how high quality the fakes are the ox and tiger 2009/2010 as everyone can see the tiger fake is pretty tricky IF you are after the tiger or ox my suggestion is to buy it from a reputable dealer who knows where he got it from or NGC graded better to pay a little more for piece of mind.  no one can give me answer as too why the ox is so expensive when it first was released with all the other ox lunar s on release it was $100 usd coin you could of bought them readily. then they disappeared. The plausible theory is 2009 was the change to the new design the mint did not know what the reaction would be so they did not make many .. they sold what was made and never minted more and went  on to the next year tiger more of the same not too many tigers made either. then the new design started to catch on they made plenty of rabbits, of course dragons arguably  being the most popular lunar ,snake plenty around ,now we come to the horse in color I think this is a sleeper year ,I bought and graded fans, scallops and colored went to sell them I was actually the first person to submit them to NGC and was having a hard time breaking even trying to sell them graded 69  ,fast forward 9 month,s the horses have doubled in value??
 

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2014, 07:26:38 AM »
Thanks for Pics and info guys. Great posts!

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2014, 10:14:03 AM »
I am a big lunar fan:) I love them. Thanks geoxx for starting the thread! WG feel free to post more pictures of the best lunar collection ever assembled Everyone loves them !!!!!! when WG post pictures readership increases 10 fold.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #53 on: August 02, 2014, 10:15:41 AM »
notice WG,s last picture in the background a pile of colored tigers :) makes me drool.....................

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #54 on: August 02, 2014, 11:05:13 AM »
Hove you seen how expensive the pf70 colorized have become?
That is...when you can find them.... especially the new designs

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2014, 06:49:58 PM »
I have not seen a 2009 pf70 ox colorized ever on the market? but it has to be a $2000 coin at least?     

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2014, 07:41:39 PM »
I was lucky enough to get one graded a pf 70 :thumbup: but it wont be for sale anytime soon
I am working on a 70 set of all the lunar 10 y starting in 2009, the only one missing so far is the ox round , no luck in my submissions so I will keep pleading for someone to sell me one . The tiger round was very very hard to find as well in a 70 and of course when I did the one package that ever went missing had it , I spent hours with the postal service to no avail, the actual ems driver had signed for it and knowone was able to do anything .. I figure either someone has a coin that is very very hard to come by or they broke it out of the slab and sold it at spot somewhere . Luckily someone dear had located another one which took over a year but I am very grateful. Some of these are very hard to get in a 70 and submitting them can get  expensive.

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #57 on: August 02, 2014, 07:45:32 PM »
so silverstar ,round silver, colorized ,and scallop and fan ?  very ambitious in all 70:) 

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2014, 09:44:15 PM »
Yes , I think once and if I get the ox round it should be downhill from here as everyone seems to be getting the new issues graded so I dont even bother submitting them my self. I did submit most of the older ones and a few I bought with the silly color labels I will have to get reslabbed , Maybe I will wait though and get the whole set as consecutive numbers like mentioned earlier in this thread that sounds like a cool thing to do. I love the Chinese lunars and as some mentioned here I think there will be more interest in the future especially 70s but even 69s should pick up considering the high quality fakes out there.
As a side note JC i hope all is well with you and yours and I always enjoy your posts!

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Re: Chinese Lunar Scallop 2005 - 2014
« Reply #59 on: August 02, 2014, 09:58:42 PM »
Thanks  silverstar ! I just pm you.............