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Offline Dr650rob

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #136 on: January 26, 2013, 11:40:15 PM »
thats a bummer i wonder if the seller knows its fake
i thought he was a reputable seller

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #137 on: January 26, 2013, 11:42:05 PM »
thats a bummer i wonder if the seller knows its fake
i thought he was a reputable seller

I stand behind this guy. He's a friend of mine, and he didn't know that was a fake. As soon as I notified him of the problem, he ended the auction.

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #138 on: January 26, 2013, 11:47:12 PM »
I stand behind this guy. He's a friend of mine, and he didn't know that was a fake. As soon as I notified him of the problem, he ended the auction.
Thanks for doing that.  Will you ask him where the coin come from?  It would be really nice to get to the source of the fake.

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #139 on: January 27, 2013, 09:28:00 AM »
Michael of pandamoney-a is 100% against fakes, but looks like he even got caught.   The fakes are that good?  I contacted him too and waiting for reply.  He will get after this one.  Fake MCC, fake US coins and fake bullion.  Even the forgers know the coin/bullion market is the future.  What a mess and more fakes on the way.  We gotta stop this.   Remember my comment on post office thefts?  I said to call the FBI and Postal inspector on every theft and raise heck.  That is how we get attention to our problem.  The more complaints then the better chance of future investigations.  Sqeeky wheel gets the grease.  IF we keep quiet then the problems of fakes and thefts continue to grow.  ...............

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #140 on: January 27, 2013, 04:15:52 PM »
Another fake Mazu, grade once again listed by NGC as "Deleted".
Ad describes coin 3356524-140, but photo is of another coin, and blurred.

Certification Number: 3356524-140
Date/Info: 1987 1/4oz CHINA MAZU - 1000TH ANNIVERSARY GOLD
Denomination: MEDAL
Grade: DELETED

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #141 on: January 29, 2013, 09:09:46 AM »
Yet another fake Mazu.  NGC Grade "Deleted".  Certification number 3356524-208, seen sold many times implying many counterfeits with this fake -208 Certification number have been sold.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1987-China-Gold-1-4-25-Oz-Ounce-Mazu-PF69-Ultra-Cameo-NGC-Coin-999-/140911039138?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item20cef3d2a2

Verify NGC Certification
Certification Number: 3356524-208
Date/Info: 1987 1/4oz CHINA MAZU - 1000TH ANNIVERSARY GOLD
Denomination: MEDAL
Grade: DELETED

First photo shows fake medal in fake NGC holder, on ebay.  Note tell-tale lines in hair.
Second photo shows real medal, in real NGC holder, same NGC Certification number, so counterfeiters are stealing
NGC numbers and putting cheap counterfeit medals in fake NGC holders which are good enough to pass casual inpection.


« Last Edit: January 29, 2013, 09:31:08 AM by Hippanda »
"He who speaks without modesty will find it difficult to make his words good."

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #142 on: January 29, 2013, 11:47:12 AM »
Reported with the text of your post.

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #143 on: January 29, 2013, 12:04:29 PM »
Have seen a few of these for sale in the Vancouver BC or Canada area.  Could that be the source?  It is a large Chinese community........

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #144 on: January 29, 2013, 12:44:41 PM »
Michael of pandamoney-a is 100% against fakes, but looks like he even got caught.   The fakes are that good?  I contacted him too and waiting for reply. 

Any reply on the source?

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #145 on: January 29, 2013, 01:22:10 PM »
Any reply on the source?

This is what he told me: "I tried to go back and look for the listing...but ebay has  removed it.... It was something like twilson or toriwilson it was not a US seller..... I can't remember but  I think it was somewhere in Asia."

Speaking of eBay fake seller, "eanderxxx" earned himself a spot on that list - he has two: 1982 1/4 oz panda and a 1987 Mazu. I reported both, but eBay has yet to take them down.

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #146 on: January 29, 2013, 01:45:00 PM »
If he wanted, there are other ways he could retrace and determine exactly who the seller was.  Payment records, emails, etc.

It appears so far no seller wants to take responsibility to see this fraud gets stopped.
"He who speaks without modesty will find it difficult to make his words good."

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #147 on: January 29, 2013, 02:26:53 PM »
If he wanted, there are other ways he could retrace and determine exactly who the seller was.  Payment records, emails, etc.

It appears so far no seller wants to take responsibility to see this fraud gets stopped.

With your superior detective and people skills, I'm sure you can take the initiative to contact him and stop the fraudulent activity single-handedly. :thumbup:

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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #148 on: January 29, 2013, 03:05:58 PM »
Why the uncalled-for dig?   :confused1:

Wishing you a better day - 
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Re: Fake NGC slab danger
« Reply #149 on: January 29, 2013, 03:10:23 PM »
 :thumbup: :thumbup:I don't think it was a dig. I think it was being honest. I certainly appreciate all you and others do to ferret out these swine chiselers.